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Neil Law

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Apr 21, 2003, 8:37:26 AM4/21/03
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Must admit it's been far too many years since I red the Superman comics (lets
say, 30+). I really do enjoy this new series.

One thing that bothers me is the use of R.K. on this show. As I recall from the
comics it caused Superman/boy to change in some random manner for a period of 48
hours. Keeping would have some interesting possibilities for the show (rather
than just the rebellious teenager).

So, did they just change it for the show or did it change in the comic world
some time back?


Usually Delusional

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Apr 21, 2003, 9:18:11 AM4/21/03
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>One thing that bothers me is the use of R.K. on this show. As I recall from
>the
>comics it caused Superman/boy to change in some random manner for a period of
>48
>hours. Keeping would have some interesting possibilities for the show (rather
>than just the rebellious teenager).
>
>So, did they just change it for the show or did it change in the comic world
>some time back?

I never read the Superman comics, but on "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of
Superman", red kryptonite made Clark "apathetic", but didn't affect his
physical abilities. My vague recollection of the Superfriends tv-cartoon series
showed different varieties of kryptonite, but, for each variation, I only
remember a unique effect.

It makes perfect sense to me for there to be a unique effect under the
influence of red kryptonite. It's OK that "Lois and Clark" chose to make Clark
"apathetic" and "Smallville" chose to make Clark "indiscreet" since that is the
prerogative of the writers.
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MCMLXVI

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Apr 21, 2003, 7:29:48 PM4/21/03
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Howard Wilson II wrote:
> mark...@aol.com.wikidly (Usually Delusional) wrote in
> news:20030421091811...@mb-m15.aol.com:
>
>
>>I never read the Superman comics, but on "Lois and Clark: The New
>>Adventures of Superman", red kryptonite made Clark "apathetic", but
>>didn't affect his physical abilities. My vague recollection of the
>
>
> Once. Another time, it transferred his powers to Lois.

I remember that, but I think the transfer had more to do with that laser
cannon Diane from Cheers was using -- like the transfer to Eric Summers
in Smallville episode Leech.

Buckaroo Banzai

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Apr 21, 2003, 10:21:30 PM4/21/03
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"MCMLXVI" <mar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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And do we even want to get into the homemade kryptonite Richard Pryor made
using tar in Superman The Movie III??


John Sullivan

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Apr 21, 2003, 11:58:50 PM4/21/03
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Red K was pretty much done away with after the Byrne revamp. The last
time it had a major role, to my recollection...Mxyzptlk was off in
another dimension, battling a group of heroes who looked suspiciously
like the Fantastic Four. But he didn't want to pass up a chance to mess
with Supey, so he conjured up some red K and gave it to Luthor.

What it did was what Luthor wished..."Make me and Superman equals." In
this case, it turned Superman into a mortal. The hook-if Luthor told
Superman who gave him the K, the spell would be broken.

As far as the recent incarnation...as I recall from the comics, the red
stuff, each piece had unpredictable effects. And once a Kryptonian was
exposed to a particular piece, he or she would be immune from it...that
said, who is to say that two pieces wouldn't have similar effects?
Though as far as "Smallville" is concerned, it's probably cheaper to
show Dark Clark raising hell than it is to show Clark with an ant-head,
Clark split into good and evil halves...I also remember one comic where
Superman got exposed to some Gold Kryptonite-which would normally wipe
out his powers for good-but said Gold K had been fused with some Red K
in an accident...so all that happened was Superman got amnesia, but his
powers were intact.


John
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Keith Brooks

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:54:38 AM4/22/03
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"Buckaroo Banzai" <black...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No. We must not speak of Supes 3 or 4 (especially 4).


Usually Delusional

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Apr 22, 2003, 9:12:51 AM4/22/03
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:29:48 EDT (UT-4h), MCMLXVI wrote:
>>>I never read the Superman comics, but on "Lois and Clark: The New
>>>Adventures of Superman", red kryptonite made Clark "apathetic", but
>>>didn't affect his physical abilities. My vague recollection of the
>>
>> Once. Another time, it transferred his powers to Lois.
>
>I remember that, but I think the transfer had more to do with that laser
>cannon Diane from Cheers was using -- like the transfer to Eric Summers
>in Smallville episode Leech.

You mean Shelley Long? Wasn't there another lady Shelley's character was
working with?

I think it was the Intergang operative's belief that if minor exposures of red
K makes Superman apathetic, a huge exposure would make him 'permanently'
apathetic. It just so happens that Superman plus K-rock plus high energy
(lightning / laser cannon) plus close contact with another human results in
transfering Clark / Superman 's K-power to the other human. That looks
consistent to me!

Usually Delusional

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Apr 22, 2003, 9:31:44 AM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:21:30 EDT (UT-4h), Buckaroo Banzai wrote:

>And do we even want to get into the homemade kryptonite Richard Pryor made
>using tar in Superman The Movie III??

That theory was understandable enough. Astronomers knew where Krypton once
existed. Presumably, not all K particles landed on Earth with Superman, so
there may still be plenty of K rocks in space between Krypton and Earth. The
satellite Gus used then analyzed the rock, but there was still some unknown
ingredient. There was enough raw material on Earth to synthesize the "homemade
kryptonite". The laboratory probably wound up with molten rock that they had
to let solidify before Gus would be able to take it.

"What the H'l? I ain't gonna smoke it."

Usually Delusional

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Apr 22, 2003, 12:29:04 PM4/22/03
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>It just so happens that Superman plus K-rock plus high energy
>(lightning / laser cannon) plus close contact with another human results in
>transfering Clark / Superman 's K-power to the other human.

Funny that I'd remember this, but, on "Lois & Clark", Superman plus high energy
(lightning) plus metallic object (gun) plus human (little guy with a big
accent), where both Superman and the human are holding the same metallic
object, gives the other human K-power without disabling Superman.

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