Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Hardly any stupid acts done in Aquaman episode.

0 views
Skip to first unread message

BC

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 2:07:47 AM10/21/05
to
This episode was one of the best that I've seen so far. I usually am
offended by the writers trying to fool the viewer but I saw only one thing
in this program that was dumb, really dumb as far as I could tell. Clark
saved the Aquaman by turning ON the sprinkler system and watering him. The
sprinklers are already on all of the time and heat (like his heat vision,
DUH) sets it off, but instead he turns the valve which would turn OFF the
water and the guy gets sprinkled. Who writes this stuff, ten year olds?

Other wise a very interesting episode with Lex getting darker (but less
interesting) the whole slant of Clark in college could be good instead of
spending all of his time on the farm. Fewer clothes on Lois is a big leap
and I hope we see more of her. ;-)

The Aquaman looked like a super hero but his vocalizing of the dialog wasn't
so great and his actions with Lois not so well written alsmost as if the
writers couldn't decide on where they were going with the sexy attraction
between them. Welling is gaining weight and is losing muscle tone but still
looks beefy enough. I think married life does that plus too many beers.

Next week's episode with the vampires looks weak because vampire themes have
been done to death.

Did mention Lois was really hot? When Aquaman was pumping Lois' chest I
thought she would wake and say "A little close to the boob don't you think?"

BC

kaydigi

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 2:59:26 AM10/21/05
to

"BC" <bcp...@core.com> wrote in message
news:TA%5f.1021$Lv....@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...

All the the interactions between Aquaman and Lois were terrible. I don't
know if she's a bad actress or it was just poor writing. They tried to hide
it by putting her in a bikini.


Someone Somewhere

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 7:56:52 AM10/21/05
to
Aquaman, while HOT bod, wise, talked like a dumb ass jock DUH, BRO, and
seemed ill at ease around females, especially Lois. Not a very good
episode, even with the darkening of Lex, and the expansion of Clark's
character.

"BC" <bcp...@core.com> wrote in message
news:TA%5f.1021$Lv....@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...

Glassman

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 8:01:27 AM10/21/05
to

"BC" <bcp...@core.com> wrote in message
news:TA%5f.1021$Lv....@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
> This episode was one of the best that I've seen so far. I usually am
> offended by the writers trying to fool the viewer but I saw only one thing
> in this program that was dumb, really dumb as far as I could tell. Clark
> saved the Aquaman by turning ON the sprinkler system and watering him.
The
> sprinklers are already on all of the time and heat (like his heat vision,
> DUH) sets it off, but instead he turns the valve which would turn OFF the
> water and the guy gets sprinkled. Who writes this stuff, ten year olds?
>

Surveillance cameras kept him from a different rescue? Maybe not even
sprikler system, but release valves?


--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories


D C

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 7:56:57 AM10/21/05
to

"BC" <bcp...@core.com> wrote:

"Welling is gaining weight and is losing muscle tone but still looks
beefy enough. I think married life does that plus too many beers ."

-------------------------------------------------

I noticed that, too.He is still dro-dead grogeuous, but one would think
that with the money they are paying him, he would do more cardio, and
get a little ripped at least. He doesn't need to be HUGE or anythng, but
some definition would make more sense for the character. Earth's sun is
what gives him his unusual strength, so he doesnt really logically HAVE
to be muscular, but "muscular" is an iconic look for the character,
regardless.

It was surprising that he wasn't a little more in shape. He can afford
a personal trainer or whatever he likes, regarding weight training, so
there is NO excuse.


David
Boston, MA

BC

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 9:33:05 AM10/21/05
to

"kaydigi" <kaydigi...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:il06f.24450$l_2.16758@trnddc02...

That bikini trick nearly worked!

BC

BC

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 9:34:33 AM10/21/05
to

"D C" <wund...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21630-43...@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net...

He looked his best in Transferrence I think and should strive for that.

BC

BC

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 9:40:13 AM10/21/05
to

"Glassman" <jksi...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:YL46f.30797$Ge5....@fe10.lga...

Typical fire sprinklers. So was the valve on the riser. Notice the "red"
paint? They go into a real location up in Vancouver and dress it up to look
like a lab or whatever thay need and use what is at hand. I believe they
mentioned (on the DVD) that the tank room at Summerholt was a really truck
wash. I realize that Supe is a "pretend" character but sometimes we have to
"pretend" a bit to much.
BC

bf

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 1:50:15 PM10/21/05
to

Glassman wrote:
>
> Surveillance cameras kept him from a different rescue? Maybe not even
> sprikler system, but release valves?
>
Then I guess the surveillance cameras caught Clark holding the bomb and
letting it blow up in his belly. Lex also saw Aquaman and Clark
speeding away from the crime season. SURELY he can figure it out by
now.

When is Lex going to learn to secure a building?

BC

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 3:13:50 PM10/21/05
to

"bf" <bfor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129917015.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm sure Lex has figured it out by now but is playing dumb. Lex told Lionel
that he remembered "everything" after his Summerholt treatments and that
would have included Clark stopping Morgan Edge's car in that crash before
Lex had electroshock. Surely his cameras would have seen the bomb go off
and they did see Aquaman underwater. He knows.

BC

Electric Frog

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 5:54:27 PM10/21/05
to

"BC" <bcp...@core.com> wrote in message
news:TA%5f.1021$Lv....@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...

> Welling is gaining weight and is losing muscle tone but still


> looks beefy enough. I think married life does that plus too many beers.
>

It may have something to do with the proximity to the start of the season, I
remember that when Baywatch was on the girls (esp Yasmine) were a littly
chubby at the beginning and would usually shed the pounds after a few
episodes. So maybe it should be kicking in by episode 5???


curlyQlink

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 8:39:15 PM10/21/05
to

I thought the episode was bursting with stupid stuff:

Aqua guy performing CPR. Lois' HEART stopped? Then she comes to, spits out
a little water, and immediately starts flirting? Didn't even merit a trip
to Smallville General Hospital! The whole silly scene was inserted for the
boob-touching factor (nice jiggling, BTW).

The Leviathan weapon. The whole, undeveloped idea was stupid. What's it
supposed to do-- more or less indiscrimiately punch holes in things?
Including, of course, the hull of the ship it's supposed to protect--given
the fish kill, it seemed pretty indiscriminate. The whole Luthorcorp
project has to be ultra-secret, of course... and for no good reason, as per
usual.

When the prototype weapon is damaged "beyond repair", the project is dead
and done for. Can't build another one? Didn't have a backup? Huh... what?

The environmentalist crusade angle. Please. It was crammed in a the last
minute, came out of nowhere.

Professor Spike. He's supposed to be teaching history, so why is he ranting
about the Luthors in front of his freshman class? Why is he so eager to
hire Clark-- a mere entering freshman-- as a research assistant? Okay, so
Brainiac's real object is to check up on Lex... if he's so smart, woudn't he
be a little more subtle about it? Anybody less dumb than Clark would be
immediately suspicious. And wouldn't his cover be a lot more credible if he
was posing as a journalism professor, or an economics professor?

BC

unread,
Oct 21, 2005, 11:18:47 PM10/21/05
to

"curlyQlink" <paulf...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:TSf6f.17478$vw6....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

>
> I thought the episode was bursting with stupid stuff:
>
> Aqua guy performing CPR. Lois' HEART stopped? Then she comes to, spits
> out
> a little water, and immediately starts flirting? Didn't even merit a trip
> to Smallville General Hospital! The whole silly scene was inserted for
> the
> boob-touching factor (nice jiggling, BTW).

Yup. But I liked the scene even though they pushed it. She did start
flirting right away and the CPR is used as a cliche like when Clark used it
on Lex in the pilot and Clark on Lana in the Emily episode. It is just some
thing they throw in to take up time. Don't know if that would qualify for
stupid.


>
> The Leviathan weapon. The whole, undeveloped idea was stupid. What's it
> supposed to do-- more or less indiscrimiately punch holes in things?
> Including, of course, the hull of the ship it's supposed to protect--given
> the fish kill, it seemed pretty indiscriminate. The whole Luthorcorp
> project has to be ultra-secret, of course... and for no good reason, as
> per
> usual.
>
> When the prototype weapon is damaged "beyond repair", the project is dead
> and done for. Can't build another one? Didn't have a backup? Huh...
> what?

Of course in reality they would have several copies and several different
types of weapons. This is Smallville and we expect this stuff at least I
do. Bordering on stupid.


>
> The environmentalist crusade angle. Please. It was crammed in a the last
> minute, came out of nowhere.

Don't know about the "last minute". It seemed to me that was the whole
angle for Aquaman being in Smallville. Not stupid.

>
> Professor Spike. He's supposed to be teaching history, so why is he
> ranting
> about the Luthors in front of his freshman class? Why is he so eager to
> hire Clark-- a mere entering freshman-- as a research assistant? Okay, so
> Brainiac's real object is to check up on Lex... if he's so smart, woudn't
> he
> be a little more subtle about it? Anybody less dumb than Clark would be
> immediately suspicious. And wouldn't his cover be a lot more credible if
> he
> was posing as a journalism professor, or an economics professor?
>
>
>

This Brainiac thing is confusing starting with the black tar goo guy forming
out of the space ship and I suppose he is now Prof. Fine, or is he? They
didn't say or show that and we are left guessing. Why would Brainiac be
made of tar? or oil or MG grease? Why hate Lex if he is also a bad guy?
Why not go in league with him? Clouded and confusing but not just this
episode. Probably for the whole arc.


Stupid though is that sprinkler thing. Just break his bonds and throw him
in the water. Having Clark hide and turn OFF the sprinklers and water comes
out of a heat activated head is plain stupid writing or filming. Don't
these actors think? Shouldn't Welling have said, "Hey guys, maybe I could
set off the sprinklers with my heat vision instead of grunting and turning
this valve like a moron."

BC


BucketButt

unread,
Oct 24, 2005, 2:24:26 AM10/24/05
to
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:18:47 +0000, BC wrote:

> Yup. But I liked the scene even though they pushed it. She did start
> flirting right away and the CPR is used as a cliche like when Clark used it
> on Lex in the pilot and Clark on Lana in the Emily episode. It is just some
> thing they throw in to take up time. Don't know if that would qualify for
> stupid.

Not especially stupid, but certainly rushed. The writers skipped a few
steps (taking her to the hospital is the most obvious one) for time
purposes; but if the episode was running long, they should have shortened
it somewhere else and let the "flirtation" progress a bit more believably.

>> When the prototype weapon is damaged "beyond repair", the project is dead
>> and done for. Can't build another one? Didn't have a backup? Huh...
>> what?
>
> Of course in reality they would have several copies and several different
> types of weapons. This is Smallville and we expect this stuff at least I
> do. Bordering on stupid.

In the Real World, a second prototype would be at least partially
assembled, although not necessarily at the test location. And Luthorcorp
would still have the original designs, of course. Losing a single
prototype would not mean an end to the project.

Also, in the Real World Luthorcorp (or Lockheed, or whoever) would conduct
their own tests, documented on video, and present the video to the Navy
first; then, if there is interest, the Navy would almost certainly insist
on further testing at one of its own facilities, where it would have
complete control of the test conditions.

Finally, in the Real World it is highly unusual for a defense contractor
to build anything "on speculation" in hopes that the device will fit into
the Pentagon's plans and budget. Instead, the Pentagon (or CIA, or
whoever) sets the specifications and the contractor determines the best
way to meet them. In most instances, contractors bid for the job based on
what they think it will cost after studying the specs ... but before
actually building anything.

What we saw appeared to be Luthorcorp's first venture into the defense
weaponry business, so I'll cut the company (or the writers) a little
slack; without a track record and an existing relationship with the
pentagon's procurement people, perhaps Luthorcorp would have to prove
itself with a new weapon type. But in that kind of situation, it would be
much more believable for Luthorcorp to either buy or team up with an
established defense contractor.

>> The environmentalist crusade angle. Please. It was crammed in a the last
>> minute, came out of nowhere.
>
> Don't know about the "last minute". It seemed to me that was the whole
> angle for Aquaman being in Smallville. Not stupid.

Throughout much of his history in the comics (meaning both pre-Crisis and
post-Crisis), the Aquaman character has been greatly concerned about what
the surface world is doing in and to the oceans. Where the Silver Age
version may have been more concerned with pirates and other criminals,
more recent incarnations have been much more focused on environmental
issues. Several other DC heroes have taken on their own "focus issues";
Wonder Woman is more of a feminist icon than ever before, Green Arrow is
an avowed liberal, etc. Hardly anyone cracks jokes while slugging bad
guys these days; they take themselves and their missions far too seriously
for the kind of light humor we saw in the 1960s.

> This Brainiac thing is confusing starting with the black tar goo guy forming
> out of the space ship and I suppose he is now Prof. Fine, or is he? They
> didn't say or show that and we are left guessing. Why would Brainiac be
> made of tar? or oil or MG grease? Why hate Lex if he is also a bad guy?
> Why not go in league with him? Clouded and confusing but not just this
> episode. Probably for the whole arc.

Question for the writers to address: Is/was there a Professor Fine whose
identity Brainiac has assumed, or are we supposed to believe he just
showed up at Central Kansas A&M and got hired in time for fall semmster?
Sure, he's Brainiac and he can undoubtedly do all sorts of things with
computers to build a fake history for himself; but would any university
hire a faculty member on such short notice, especially one who hadn't
already been under consideration for some time?

> Stupid though is that sprinkler thing. Just break his bonds and throw him
> in the water. Having Clark hide and turn OFF the sprinklers and water comes
> out of a heat activated head is plain stupid writing or filming. Don't
> these actors think? Shouldn't Welling have said, "Hey guys, maybe I could
> set off the sprinklers with my heat vision instead of grunting and turning
> this valve like a moron."

Yes, Welling should have thought of that. But the writers, producers and
director should have thought of it before Welling ever stepped onto the
set. Absolute stupidity, and enough of it to spread around.

--
Walter Luffman Medina, TN USA
An equal opportunity annoyer

0 new messages