SLIDERS - did they get the real Arturo?
SFTV_troy
At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
Does anybody know for certain?
Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
of things it does not matter.
Your Name
<47bf6018-8522-4a95...@t3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
SFTV_troy <SFTV...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Two were eventually killed, but a third went on to be a dwarf in Lord of
the Rings. :-)
Professor Bubba
It was a matter of considerable debate among fans at the time; the
ending seems to indicate that the wrong Arturo went through the
wormhole -- but if he did, the show never took advantage of the fact,
and the substitution was never referred to. That was pretty much the
way Sliders did things.
Your Name
wrote:
Well it was at about the same time that Sliders started to slide down the
toilet because they simply couldn't think of what else to do for
storylines ... yet again they tried to swap from more of an episodic show
to a more on-going storyline, which is often the kiss of death for a
show. :-(
Ubiquitous
That's because those in charge didn't like Torme's ambiguous stories
and eventually had him replaced.
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>> > I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
>> > At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
>> > Does anybody know for certain?
>> >
>> > Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
>> > of things it does not matter.
>>
>>
>> It was a matter of considerable debate among fans at the time; the
>> ending seems to indicate that the wrong Arturo went through the
>> wormhole -- but if he did, the show never took advantage of the fact,
>> and the substitution was never referred to. That was pretty much the
>> way Sliders did things.
>
>Well it was at about the same time that Sliders started to slide down the
>toilet because they simply couldn't think of what else to do for
>storylines ... yet again they tried to swap from more of an episodic show
>to a more on-going storyline, which is often the kiss of death for a
>show. :-(
Gharlaine certainly knew what to do with the show.
Captain Infinity
SFTV_troy wrote:
All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
**
Captain Infinity
Joe Pfeiffer
I think this can be generalized: if he has a beard, he's evil (yes, I
do have a beard. Why do you ask?)
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Ubiquitous
Didn't Arturo already _have_ a beard?
Does the inverse apply in this case?
SFTV_troy
wrote:
>
>
> ending seems to indicate that the wrong Arturo went through the
> wormhole -- but if he did, the show never took advantage of the fact,
> and the substitution was never referred to. That was pretty much the
> way Sliders did things.
I just read an interview with John Rhys-davies (Arturo) where he said
season 1 was good, but season 2 was a "waste" of episodes and season 3
was the movie ripoff of the week!
He also commented that they ruined the episode that he wrote, which
started as a science fiction story and then the writers turned into a
"zombie episode with brain sucking".
Wow. He was probably thrilled that was his last episode.
.
Anim8rFSK
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> Infi...@captaininfinity.us wrote:
> >Once Upon A Time,
> >SFTV_troy wrote:
>
> >>I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
> >>At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
> >>Does anybody know for certain?
> >>
> >>Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
> >>of things it does not matter.
> >
> >All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
> >universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
>
> Didn't Arturo already _have_ a beard?
> Does the inverse apply in this case?
No. The rule is, the second one we meet is the evil one. Beards don't
count, nor does the evil status of the original. The first time I ever
saw a twin show up of an evil character was the Family Channel Zorro,
and a friend asked me "so is he going to be good?" but he was even
eviller. On ST-TNG the second Riker was evil, and did he ditch the
beard? Phoebe Buffay's twin was evil, and didn't have a beard (although
if she'd dated Chandler, she could have BEEN a beard!). Speaking of
Buffay, Willow's twin was evil and beardless, even though the real
Willow turned out to be more evil still.
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Gisele
news:L_CdnYa9OcPKuQrR...@giganews.com:
> bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid wrote:
>>SFTV_troy <SFTV...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
>>> At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
>>> Does anybody know for certain?
>>>
>>> Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
>>> of things it does not matter.
>>
>>It was a matter of considerable debate among fans at the time; the
>>ending seems to indicate that the wrong Arturo went through the
>>wormhole -- but if he did, the show never took advantage of the fact,
>>and the substitution was never referred to. That was pretty much the
>>way Sliders did things.
>
> That's because those in charge didn't like Torme's ambiguous stories
> and eventually had him replaced.
Well they were rather leftist. Better to have bad guys like the Cromags
than intelligent stories that are anti-big business.....<g>
Gisele
SFTV_troy
> Infin...@captaininfinity.us wrote:
>
>
>
> >All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
> >universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
>
> Didn't Arturo already _have_ a beard?
> Does the inverse apply in this case?
Yes it does.
If I recall correctly Arturo lost his beard in season 3, which means
he was not the "good" bearded Arturo we saw in seasons 1 and 2.
Fantabulous. This case is solved with my (and Cappy's) impeccable
logic.
SFTV_troy
> In article <6OmdndknO6tE7grRnZ2dnUVZ_h6dn...@giganews.com>,
>
>
>
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> > Infin...@captaininfinity.us wrote:
> > >Once Upon A Time,
> > >SFTV_troy wrote:
>
> > >>I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
> > >>At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
> > >>Does anybody know for certain?
>
> > >>Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
> > >>of things it does not matter.
>
> > >All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
> > >universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
>
> > Didn't Arturo already _have_ a beard?
> > Does the inverse apply in this case?
>
> No. The rule is, the second one we meet is the evil one. Beards don't
> count, nor does the evil status of the original. The first time I ever
> saw a twin show up of an evil character was the Family Channel Zorro,
In Sliders we're not sure who arrived "second". Was the guy in the
basement the good Arturo, or the bad Arturo? It's unclear.
Plus Sliders confuses the issue further by having the two Arturos roll
around on the ground, and we have no idea which one slid through the
tunnel. Was it the tied-up Arturo or the Arturo that came down the
steps?
It's a mystery.
Dimensional Traveler
> In article<6OmdndknO6tE7grR...@giganews.com>,
> Ubiquitous<web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> Infi...@captaininfinity.us wrote:
>>> Once Upon A Time,
>>> SFTV_troy wrote:
>>
>>>> I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
>>>> At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
>>>> Does anybody know for certain?
>>>>
>>>> Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
>>>> of things it does not matter.
>>>
>>> All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
>>> universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
>>
>> Didn't Arturo already _have_ a beard?
>> Does the inverse apply in this case?
>
> No. The rule is, the second one we meet is the evil one. Beards don't
> count, nor does the evil status of the original. The first time I ever
> saw a twin show up of an evil character was the Family Channel Zorro,
> and a friend asked me "so is he going to be good?" but he was even
> eviller. On ST-TNG the second Riker was evil, and did he ditch the
> beard? Phoebe Buffay's twin was evil, and didn't have a beard (although
> if she'd dated Chandler, she could have BEEN a beard!).
>
years before 'Friends' began.
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Captain Infinity
Ubiquitous wrote:
>Infi...@captaininfinity.us wrote:
>>Once Upon A Time,
>>SFTV_troy wrote:
>
>>>I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
>>>At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
>>>Does anybody know for certain?
>>>
>>>Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
>>>of things it does not matter.
>>
>>All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
>>universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
>
>Didn't Arturo already _have_ a beard?
Whoosh. That, I say, that's the _joke_, boy. The fast ones go over your
head. Ya got a hole in your glove. I keep pitchin' 'em and you keep
missin' 'em. Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball. Eye. Ball. I almost
had a gag, son. Joke, that is.
**
Captain Infinity
Your Name
"Captain Infinity" <Infi...@captaininfinity.us> wrote in message
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> All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
> universes: Does he have a beard? If yes, then he's the evil twin.
It's even easier with females - if she has a beard then she's definitely the
evil twin. ;-)
Captain Infinity
SFTV_troy wrote:
According to Torme in an interview last year, the wrong Arturo slid. See:
http://earthprime.com/tracy-torme/tracy-torme-2009.html
**
Captain Infinity
SFTV_troy
wrote:
>
>
> According to Torme in an interview last year, the wrong Arturo slid. See:
>
> http://earthprime.com/tracy-torme/tracy-torme-2009.html
Interesting / cool bits:
"Over the past few days, I sat down and worked on something Sliders-
related for the first time in 13 years," states Tracy Tormé. ... "I
wasn't sure what to do with the two professors, but I would've
probably left the real one on the world with the Azure Gate Bridge. He
would've had the implant and the Kromaggs would have showed up there.
"If I had to write the Professor out — which I wouldn't like in the
first place — I would have made a real character episode where the
Professor finally admits to being a fraud, the wrong one, and the
Sliders go on knowing the real one is trapped somewhere. I wanted to
let John leave with some dignity; instead, they hack him to bits and
shoot him."
"There was another idea I jotted down for the third season that never
made it into a script," Tracy notes. "The Sliders land in a field and
see some Klu Klux Klan members. As they're spotted, Arturo suggests
Rembrandt hide, but when the leading member of the KKK takes off his
mask, he's black. It would've been great."
Tracy sums the situation up perfectly: "Season five — worse than
seasons three and four. It just got so bad in the end."
.
The greatest "lost episode" in Sliders history comes a little bit
closer to being unearthed with a treatment written by the author
himself, Tracy Tormé.
http://earthprime.com/tracy-torme/heat-of-the-moment.html
Anim8rFSK
Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
Damn!
Arthur Lipscomb
Well, not definitely or anything but still an interesting read. I have the
first four seasons on DVD still in the shrink wrap. This *almost* makes me
want to open them up and watch again.
jazzyJack
wrote:
So the Burl Ives' of our universe *was* the evil twin?
Your Name
<51a5f075-a07e-4de7...@x20g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
jazzyJack <jazzyja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 6:51=A0am, Captain Infinity <Infin...@captaininfinity.us>
> wrote:
> > Once Upon A Time,
> >
> > SFTV_troy wrote:
> > >I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke it out.
> > >At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got the real Arturo.
> > >Does anybody know for certain?
> >
> > >Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand scheme
> > >of things it does not matter.
> >
> > All you need to do is apply the standed rule for evil twins from mirror
> > universes: =A0Does he have a beard? =A0If yes, then he's the evil twin.
>
> So the Burl Ives' of our universe *was* the evil twin?
That standard rule also proves our universe's Shannon Doherty is the evil
twin as well. ;-)
Dimensional Traveler
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> I just finished the season 2 episode where two Arturos duke
> it out. At the end of the episode it is unclear if they got
> the real Arturo. Does anybody know for certain?
>
> Of course since Arturo gets killed a year later, in the grand
> scheme of things it does not matter.
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