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Hazman

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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Ok, so some of you, or maybe all of you do not like the character of
Maggie Beckett. But that does not give you the right to attack the
actress playing the role.

I have only seen The Exodus 1 and 2 with her in, an while she hasn't
the acting ability of JRD, she is as bad as everyone says.

You may not like the character, you may not like the stories, but do
not blame the actress, blame the producers and writers. They are the
ones that make the creative decisions, not Kari Wuhrer who is doing
her job - acting on Sliders.

Hazz...

Brad Ferguson

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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In article <332beb69...@news.powerup.com.au>, haz...@powerup.com.au
(Hazman) wrote:

> Ok, so some of you, or maybe all of you do not like the character of
> Maggie Beckett. But that does not give you the right to attack the
> actress playing the role.

Of course it does. She's _terrible_. Another actress might be able to do
something worthwhile with this character. Woo-woo was passably good in the
OMEGA MAN ripoff, but she was downright terrible in the SPECIES episode.
You could see the acting lessons: "I am the lizard. I will _be_ the
lizard."

> I have only seen The Exodus 1 and 2 with her in, an while she hasn't
> the acting ability of JRD, she is as bad as everyone says.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In typos veritas.

> You may not like the character, you may not like the stories, but do
> not blame the actress, blame the producers and writers. They are the
> ones that make the creative decisions, not Kari Wuhrer who is doing
> her job - acting on Sliders.

I blame the producers most of all. They hired her. They didn't make
Woo-woo the bad actress she glories in being, but they're the ones who
paraded her in front of us.

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Joe

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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haz...@powerup.com.au (Hazman) wrote:

>Ok, so some of you, or maybe all of you do not like the character of
>Maggie Beckett. But that does not give you the right to attack the
>actress playing the role.

It does if she is a talentless bimbo.

>I have only seen The Exodus 1 and 2 with her in, an while she hasn't
>the acting ability of JRD, she is as bad as everyone says.

Nice Freudian slip there - even you secretly agree that "she is as bad
as everyone says"! ;-)

>You may not like the character, you may not like the stories, but do
>not blame the actress, blame the producers and writers. They are the
>ones that make the creative decisions, not Kari Wuhrer who is doing
>her job - acting on Sliders.

I agree that the producers/writers are the ones responsible for
wrecking the show. But Kari Wuhrer cannot act, and is not helping.

Joe


Cool Guy :)

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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You have a point there but you know that Kari Wuhrer will never replace
JRD. I blame the producers for using Kari as a replacement for the
Professor. I mean JRD had the talent, and we at least need someone with a
lot of knowledge and experience. So I hate the producers that the fact the
Kari has replaced JRD.

That's my opinion.


Cool :) ...

Gregory Kam

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Mar 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/17/97
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So much for what you know. If you bothered to read any of the previous
postings, you'd know that JRD left of his own free will.

But go on hating the producers if you want. No one will care one way or
the other...

Greg


Hazman

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Mar 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/17/97
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On Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:56:46 -0500, thir...@fred.net (Brad Ferguson)
wrote:

>> I have only seen The Exodus 1 and 2 with her in, an while she hasn't
>> the acting ability of JRD, she is as bad as everyone says.

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>In typos veritas.


Yes well I meant to say, "She isn't as bad as everyone says"

Hazz..

Brad Ferguson

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Mar 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/17/97
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In article <332cd3fb...@news.powerup.com.au>, haz...@powerup.com.au
(Hazman) wrote:


No kidding. But you didn't.

Ain't life a bitch?

zikzak23

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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robe...@worldnet.att.net (Robert Aaron) wrote:

>But Kari's acting talent hasn't exactly
>been what people are pointing to as her greatest asset (or liability)
>on Sliders. That she's the current replacement on the team to fill
>the slot vacated by JRD's departure leads to obvious (and unfortunate
>for her) comparisons between Kari's acting talent and that of JRD.

Since joining the Maggie-bashing faction (see my post "Retraction of
Maggie Beckett Support"), here's my take on Kari's acting ability. Is
she the worst actress in the world? No, of course not. But I have to
say she's the worst actor in the cast at this point. I never realised
how good the others were until Kari joined. Now, I admit that acting
ability is highly subjective, but I'm basing my opinion on a few
things.

One is that since Maggie stopped wearing the army uniform, I find it
extremely hard to buy her as a military officer. She just doesn't
carry herself with any discipline. I also don't buy her rivalry with
Quinn at all. This may be the fault of the writers, but I just don't
buy that there's any hatred between them at all. Now Wade and Maggie
on the other hand...anyway, bottom line is I don't see her as Maggie
Beckett.

Also, Sabrina's breakdown scene in "Sole Survivors" (my vote for her
best performance of the year) made me realise Kari could never have
pulled off anything even close to that. The others seem to be
carrying her most of the time she's on-screen with them. Without her,
scenes sparkle. With her, they kind of drag.

Again, Kari Wuhrer isn't the worst actress in the world, but she's
certainly not up to the standards of "Sliders." I find it hard to
believe that they couldn't find a better actress for the role of
Maggie Beckett in all of Hollywood. Not to be cynical, but after the
(IMHO) debacle of "The Breeder," it certainly seems like they were
casting for cup-size, not acting skills.


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AL_B...@hempseed.com

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Mar 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/19/97
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In article <5gmekm$1...@camel2.mindspring.com>,

Quite frankly if Kari Wuhrer wasn't as good looking or had such big
breasts their wouldn't be anywhere near the hate posts going around this
newsgroup.

No one Sliders hired to replace Kari would be able to match the acting
ability of JRD. About a .001% of the actors in L.A. could match his
acting ability. Kari Wuhrer was put on the show and had to try to fill
the shows of a titan and there is almost no one out their who could.

So basically what I'm saying is that if Maggie was played by some Flithy
McNasty and JRD was still on the show the hate posts would be almost
non-existant because fans wouldn't have to think of her as a replacement
for JRD and their wouldn't be an "obvious reason" for her being hired.

My stand on Lloyd vs. Wuhrer is that they both are very good looking but
in different ways. I like the natural look of Sabrina in her petite frame
which makes her very sexy and I also like Kari and her hourglass figure
which I think makes her hot too. But if I had to choose I would have to
say Sabrina Lloyd is the better one.

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John Baker

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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> They
> hired a young lady who would probably be a perfect fit into the cast
> of a show like Baywatch where the common denominator of good looks
> among the cast members counts for more than a given individuals acting
> ability.

The tragic thing is Ms Wuhrer isn't really attractive enough to be on
Baywatch. She's marginally a better actor than most of the cast though.

> You caught those looks Wade's been directing at Maggie? <g> Wade
> looks like she would dearly love the opportunity to leave Maggie
> behind on a parallel world where breast reduction surgery had been
> made mandatory by law. ;-) I haven't figured out yet whether those
> looks have been written into the script for Sabrina's character or if
> that's simply Sabrina's personal distaste reaching the surface.

Guffaw! I wouldn't doubt it.

Adam Littman

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Mar 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/21/97
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In article <3332393e...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, robe...@worldnet.att.net (Robert Aaron) wrote:

>If Kari had presented the pleasant acting surpise that Hudson Leick
>did when she began her role as Callisto on "Xena: Warrior Princess",

Agreed, looks and talent. She did insanity very well. Especially the look in
her eyes.


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Joe

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Mar 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/21/97
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zikz...@nospamplease.com (zikzak23) wrote:

>AL_B...@hempseed.com wrote:

>>Quite frankly if Kari Wuhrer wasn't as good looking or had such big
>>breasts their wouldn't be anywhere near the hate posts going around this
>>newsgroup.

>I agree, that's absolutely true. There is a certain jealousy factor.

What rot. You don't see people criticizing Jodi Foster because she's a
hot babe. Everyone - even people who don't like her for whatever
reason - admit she has fine acting skills.

Kari Wuhrer, on the other hand, has the acting proficiency of people
who star in low-budget TV commercials. In fact that's just what she
reminded me of when she was lamely trying to act like a monster last
week - a low-budget commercial actor (or at best someone who's
spoofing monster acting - in Kari's case unintentionally of course).

Joe


zikzak23

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Mar 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/21/97
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AL_B...@hempseed.com wrote:

>Quite frankly if Kari Wuhrer wasn't as good looking or had such big
>breasts their wouldn't be anywhere near the hate posts going around this
>newsgroup.

I agree, that's absolutely true. There is a certain jealousy factor.


But, to be cynical, I have to add that you're also right in that if
she didn't have big breasts, we wouldn't be arguing about it because
she and "Sliders" wouldn't have these assets to coast on. She'd have
to do some real acting, and the writers would have to come up with
more for her to do on the show.

>So basically what I'm saying is that if Maggie was played by some Flithy
>McNasty and JRD was still on the show the hate posts would be almost
>non-existant because fans wouldn't have to think of her as a replacement
>for JRD and their wouldn't be an "obvious reason" for her being hired.

Yes, there is hostility towards her as replacing JRD. It's like she's
a stepmother for our lost parent. But I also think there are valid
reasons for disliking Maggie's character as being too exploitive.

>My stand on Lloyd vs. Wuhrer is that they both are very good looking but
>in different ways. I like the natural look of Sabrina in her petite frame
>which makes her very sexy and I also like Kari and her hourglass figure
>which I think makes her hot too. But if I had to choose I would have to
>say Sabrina Lloyd is the better one.

I agree completely. You and me, both. :)

Check out the Sabrina Lloyd fan pages in the ERP Bridge listed below:

zikzak23

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Mar 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/21/97
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robe...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

>You caught those looks Wade's been directing at Maggie? <g>

Yup. If looks could kill...

> Wade
>looks like she would dearly love the opportunity to leave Maggie
>behind on a parallel world where breast reduction surgery had been
>made mandatory by law. ;-)

Hahahahahaha!!!!!

>I haven't figured out yet whether those
>looks have been written into the script for Sabrina's character or if
>that's simply Sabrina's personal distaste reaching the surface.

Does make you wonder, doesn't it?

Joe

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Mar 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/22/97
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dh...@freenet.carleton.ca (John Plows) wrote:

>well, see, we have to assume that the monster was original in the sense that
>it acted the way it did. Perhaps we are the ones who dont know how monsters
>*really* act.

She didn't *act* like a monster at all. That's the problem. She can't
make a part believable.

Joe


John Plows

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Mar 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/22/97
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>Kari Wuhrer, on the other hand, has the acting proficiency of people
>who star in low-budget TV commercials. In fact that's just what she
>reminded me of when she was lamely trying to act like a monster last
>week - a low-budget commercial actor (or at best someone who's
>spoofing monster acting - in Kari's case unintentionally of course).

well, see, we have to assume that the monster was original in the sense that

pu...@aol.com

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Mar 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/22/97
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Joe observed:

>Kari Wuhrer, on the other hand, has the acting proficiency of people
>who star in low-budget TV commercials. In fact that's just what she
>reminded me of when she was lamely trying to act like a monster last
>week - a low-budget commercial actor (or at best someone who's
>spoofing monster acting - in Kari's case unintentionally of course).

***Quite. And if *anyone's* performance ever cried out for a MSTing...

<grin>

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zikzak23

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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mcg...@direct.ca (Joe) wrote:

>zikz...@nospamplease.com (zikzak23) wrote:

>>I agree, that's absolutely true. There is a certain jealousy factor.

>What rot. You don't see people criticizing Jodi Foster because she's a


>hot babe. Everyone - even people who don't like her for whatever
>reason - admit she has fine acting skills.

Uh, you'll notice I amended that statement further by explaining other
reasons why people dislike her. I just can't argue too much about the
jealousy factor, because people were trashing Kari Wuhrer months
before she even appeared on "Sliders." There really were people who
complained about her large breasts. Others hated her just because she
was a host on MTV's "Remote Control." But now the show has given us
new reasons to hate her. I don't mind her appearance at all, I just
wish the show wasn't so focused on it.

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Janine Blair

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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> >zikz...@nospamplease.com (zikzak23) wrote:
>
> >>I agree, that's absolutely true. There is a certain jealousy factor.
> Are you under the impression that women are jealous of women whose
breasts are larger than theirs? Why would that be so? First, any woman
can have large breasts installed, if that's what she wants. Second,
not one single woman of my acquaintance measures her worth (or that of
any other woman) by her bra size. Believe me, I save envy and jealousy
for really important attributes.

But perhaps you were speaking about jealousy on the part of male viewers?

Janine Blair

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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> >zikz...@nospamplease.com (zikzak23) wrote:
>
> >>I agree, that's absolutely true. There is a certain jealousy factor.
> Are you under the impression that women are jealous of women whose
breasts are larger than theirs? Why would that be so? First, any woman
can have large breasts installed, if that's what she wants. Second,
not one single woman of my acquaintance measures her worth by her bra

Brad Ferguson

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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Then why is it that, whenever I hear a woman criticize another, the _first
thing_ mentioned is some physical attribute? If it's not breast size, it's
hair color, and if it's not hair color, it's weight. Your friends may not
measure their _own_ worth by their bra size, but I'll bet at least some of
them are not quite that shy when it comes to other women.

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rock...@sirius.com

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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It's not about Kari Wuhrer. It's about the powers-that-be deciding to use
her as a sex kitten object and ignore the intellectually challenging
sci-fi aspect of the show.

Grk68508

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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Why not both? A good-looking, tough babe involved in an exciting Sci-Fi
thriller is worth watching.


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Canonball

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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zikzak23 wrote:

>
> mcg...@direct.ca (Joe) wrote:
>
> >zikz...@nospamplease.com (zikzak23) wrote:
>
> >>I agree, that's absolutely true. There is a certain jealousy factor.
>
> >What rot. You don't see people criticizing Jodi Foster because she's a
> >hot babe. Everyone - even people who don't like her for whatever
> >reason - admit she has fine acting skills.
>
> Uh, you'll notice I amended that statement further by explaining other
> reasons why people dislike her. I just can't argue too much about the
> jealousy factor, because people were trashing Kari Wuhrer months
> before she even appeared on "Sliders." There really were people who
> complained about her large breasts. Others hated her just because she
> was a host on MTV's "Remote Control." But now the show has given us
> new reasons to hate her. I don't mind her appearance at all, I just
> wish the show wasn't so focused on it.

She never hosted the show, the host was Ken Ober or something like
that...she was something like a Vanna White or those girls on the Price
is Right

Canonball

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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Where did he say anthing about a Sci-Fi thriller?? He said "It's not

Justin McGill

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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Of course it is.. If you WANT Babewatch: The Next Generation.. or Jiggly
things from Outer Space.. But the ORIGINAL fans are disappointed.. As I was ,
I watched from beginning to the Professor's death.. What I would call the
Beginning of the end.. there were some before, but that was the last stake..

Justin

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John Baker

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Mar 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/28/97
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> Why not both? A good-looking, tough babe involved in an exciting Sci-Fi
> thriller is worth watching.

Okay, now find us a good-looking babe who can convincingly play "tough" and
get some writers who can write "an exciting Sci-Fi thriller."

John Baker

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Mar 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/28/97
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In article <rockdove-250...@ppp032-sm0.sirius.com>,
rock...@sirius.com wrote:

> It's not about Kari Wuhrer. It's about the powers-that-be deciding to use
> her as a sex kitten object and ignore the intellectually challenging
> sci-fi aspect of the show.

DING DING DING!!! rockdove gets the Kewpie doll. Furthermore they have
"installed" a sex object on a show that did not need one. Furthermore they
chose to use an actress as that sex object, who is not much of a sex object
(an awful lot of people dislike HUGE PLASTIC BREASTS - if I want HUGE
PLASTIC BREASTS I'll hook up to alt.binaries.pictures.huge.plastic.breasts,
thankyouverymuch). Furthermore they have celebrated the departure of a
seasoned veteran actor by replacing him with a bimbo game-show host, who is
now a bimbo game-show host surrounded by professional-level actors.
Furthermore the writers seem to have traded their writing ability for a
keen sense of where to put the Lava Lamp.

That about covers it

John Baker

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Mar 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/29/97
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> I was not aware that "Sliders" was originally meant to be a Sci-Fi
> thriller. I always thought that the original intent was to present IDEAS,
> to us (the viewers), on what might happen in various alternative
> realities, with action being of secondary concern.

I dunno, then you have the "Star Trek Pilot" syndrome, where the network
tells the producers to put some action in the show. A show that sits around
talking about possibilities for forty-some minutes a week tends to start
sounding like "SeaQuest DSZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz" or even "Cosmos." (Interesting
as it was, it wasn't network-TV fare.)

David Mcanally

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Mar 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/29/97
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grk6...@aol.com (Grk68508) writes:

>Why not both? A good-looking, tough babe involved in an exciting Sci-Fi
>thriller is worth watching.

I was not aware that "Sliders" was originally meant to be a Sci-Fi


thriller. I always thought that the original intent was to present IDEAS,
to us (the viewers), on what might happen in various alternative
realities, with action being of secondary concern.

David McAnally

GWilson685

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Mar 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/31/97
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madm...@dingo.cc.uq.edu.au (David Mcanally) wrote:
>I was not aware that "Sliders" was originally meant to be a Sci-Fi
>thriller. I always thought that the original intent was to present
IDEAS,
>to us (the viewers), on what might happen in various alternative
>realities, with action being of secondary concern.

I was surfing around the other day and happened on a site which was
talking about non-standard methods of measuring IQ in children. This site
talked about creativity and mentioned children exploring "what ifs'" like
"what if elves stole all the buttons in the world", "what if the British
won the revolutionary war" and What if dinosuars still roamed America".

I guess it caught my eye because of the Sliders tie-in. Two are obvious
sliders episodes, (one was actually done).

It seems to me that the IDEAs thing has largely been lost lately, in
favour of Boobs and monsters, or maybe that shoudl be monster boobs...

greg

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walfo...@aol.com

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Mar 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/31/97
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The premise of Sliders is, of necessity, sci-fi. If all the worlds were just like ours, what would be the point? And the "supernatural" kick they've been on this season has NOTHING to do with Kari
Wuhrer, who simply happens to be a very bad actress, with a very badly written, one-dimensional character which adds NOTHING to the show, and which I don't trust further than I could throw an
elephant. I enjoyed the direction it was taking until she came along. What would be wrong with having just the three of them if JR-D doesn't want to do the show anymore? With maybe some "guest"
professors from the alternate worlds?

George Matthew Regnery

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On 29 Mar 1997 14:11:18 GMT, madm...@dingo.cc.uq.edu.au (David
Mcanally) wrote:

>grk6...@aol.com (Grk68508) writes:
>
>>Why not both? A good-looking, tough babe involved in an exciting Sci-Fi
>>thriller is worth watching.
>

>I was not aware that "Sliders" was originally meant to be a Sci-Fi
>thriller. I always thought that the original intent was to present IDEAS,
>to us (the viewers), on what might happen in various alternative
>realities, with action being of secondary concern.

During the first two seasons, there was quite a bit of discussion here
as to whether Sliders should emphasize history or science fiction.
Now, people are united in their agreement that they shouldn't be
producing these awful episodes that they are currently producing,
which have bad sci-fi and basically no mention of alternative history.

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GWilson685

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walfo...@aol.com wrote:
>The premise of Sliders is, of necessity, sci-fi. If all the worlds were
>just like ours, what would be the point? And the "supernatural" kick
>they've been on this season has NOTHING to do with Kari

Although the premise is sci-fi, it doesn't mean every story-line has to
feature sci-fi or sci-fantasy stuff. As I recall, Quantum Leap story-lines
didn't have to resort to this. The point is that you can use the sci-fi
aspect of sliding as the vehicle to generate the what-ifs that create the
story lines. The worlds can be normal (except for some slight historical
twist which gives the sliders a different "world view" or "Value set").
You use this to explore the way we view things in our own culture.

If you want to explore the idea of dieting and body image in our culture,
you don't have to slide to a world of zombies. You can invent some subtle
change in the new Earth which to our eyes shows our own over-concern with
this.

Although the trend towards monsters has nothing to do with Kari, in fact
it has everything to do with her. It reflects a change away from using
sliding as the vehicle to present different concepts, ideas or critical
commentary of our own world. It reflects a change toward puerile(sp?)
entertainment targetted at teen and pre-teen boys. The rest of us must
"disengage brain before watching".

David Mcanally

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walfo...@aol.com writes:

>The premise of Sliders is, of necessity, sci-fi.

Of course it's sci-fi. I never said it wasn't. I wrote:

: I was not aware that "Sliders" was originally meant to be a Sci-Fi
: thriller.

Note that I said "sci-fi *thriller*", not "sci-fi". There *is* a
difference, you know!

: I always thought that the original intent was to present IDEAS,


: to us (the viewers), on what might happen in various alternative
: realities, with action being of secondary concern.

I still maintain this position. The show might be better written by
historians who have some idea how history works, rather than coming up
with outlandish worlds. The Communist world, visited in the pilot episode
of "Sliders", was where there was considerable action, but wasn't the main
point to investigate what the possibility of a Communist USA *might* be
like - i.e., IDEAS. I still maintain that the show was originally about
ideas, *not* about making a thriller.

> If all the worlds were just like ours, what would be the point?

Where did I make such a comment? Of course all of the worlds would be
different from one another. That stands to reason and is only common
sense - in other words, I have no argument with this.

As I said originally, the show was about ideas - an intellectual exercise
asking "what if?" There is no reason why every other reality *should* be
a thriller. You are suggesting that because I don't want "Sliders" to be
just a thriller, I don't want visits to alternative realities. This is a
logical non sequitur (i.e. it does not follow), and shouldn't even have to
be answered. But just for the record, I *like* the idea of visiting
alternative realities. However, I do not acknowledge that it necessarily
should be a *thriller*, and I do not accept that *Sci-Fi* should
necessarily be a thriller.

> Kari Wuhrer, who simply happens to be a very bad actress, with a very
> badly written, one-dimensional character which adds NOTHING to the show,
> and which I don't trust further than I could throw an elephant.

Well, I don't know *anything* about Kari Wuhrer's performance. The last
episode shown on local television was "Dragonslide", and there is still a
considerable time to go before we can expect to see her on our screens.
Also, as I have never seen her act in anything, I don't know what she's
like as an actress. I was merely replying to the simplistic statement
that
:>A good-looking, tough babe involved in an exciting Sci-Fi
:>thriller is worth watching.
(please note the word thriller - I quoted this bit in my posting), and I
objected to the usage of the word thriller. I did *not* object to the
Sci-Fi comment.

As a final note, please make sure in future that your lines are less than
80 characters long, instead of *over* 200 characters long as some of your
lines were in this case.

David McAnally

walfo...@aol.com

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Please then define what a "thriller" is, because I don't consider what they've been doing this season to be that-- at least, not until the last few episodes, after they introduced Maggie. Granted,
they've been moving a bit more toward the
"fantasy" aspect, rather than the "science" part of it, but I've actually enjoyed
that, because I felt at the end of last season that they were really stretching in
order to find SOMETHING to change, to make each world different (i.e. the "Logan's
Run" ripoff, where when you were over 30, if you hadn't made it, your life was over.
Many logic problems with that one).

If they had writers who could make the logical progressions (ie the what-ifs) and
make them interesting, that type of premise might have worked. But even from the beginning, that's not what they were doing... they were trying to make MAJOR changes in each world. (ie-- the French
controlling the US, California being made into a prison colony, some sort of war making most of the men sterile, the "Christmas mall"episode, which was a pathetic attempt to have a morality tale
about the evils of consumerism, etc.), not the real differences which might have occurred if, say, Kruschev hadn't backed off during the Cuban Missile Crisis, or Kennedy had lived, or Hitler had been
assassinated, etc. Granted, they have done a few of these, moreso at the beginning of the series, but not all that many. This type of more fantasy-oriented "thriller" I see as the logical extension
of that viewpoint over time.

BTW-- my screen is set at 80 characters, that's what it shows, and that's what it's
sending. If that's not what you're getting, sorry, I don't know why.


walfo...@aol.com

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Greg,
I agree, and that's what I *loved* about QL (until the last season, but that's a whole 'nother story).
However, the writers have shown from the very beginning, IMO, that that's not really the type of series they were trying to make. Although they've done a *few* episodes like that, most of them
have not been.

Lauren Glenn

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On Thu, 03 Apr 1997 00:59:14 -0800, Jason Roberson
<robe...@surfsouth.com> wrote:

>Ok. Equal time, people. Everyone is talking about "laying off Kari
>Wuhrer". How about laying ON Kari Wuhrer. That would be much more
>interesting. Wonder what the view would be like on top of the mountains.
That's so funny..... <sigh>

It's great to see the audience they've attracted with this character.
While it may be true that not all of you act like this, it's getting a
little tiresome to read this newsgroup with all the sexual innuendos
to Kari.

So, I guess it's time to finally use the "Kill / Ignore filter" in my
newsreader. <sigh>

Lauren

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at http://pw2.netcom.com/~l_glenn or
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John Baker

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In article <334371...@surfsouth.com>, Jason Roberson
<robe...@surfsouth.com> wrote:

Like lying on a pair of shaved coconuts

Terry L. Smith

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---> Article quoted in entirety, so that <walfo...@aol.com>
can see what endless line warps look like (hopefully), though
depending on the program used, it *may* look "normal."
This is NOT a pretty article. <---

walfo...@aol.com wrote:
: Please then define what a "thriller" is, because I don't consider what they've been doing this season to be that-- at least, not until the last few episodes, after they introduced Maggie. Granted,


What probably is happening is that your "screen" is 80 characters wide -
and you just *think* it's "set to 80 characters," because when YOU type
to the far right border of the screen, it *shows* you jumping down
to the "next" line. I can do this too (most of us can), see: Iamnothittingthe"enter"keyatallnowandicanstillseewhatiamtyping,onthenextlinebelow,andIamleavingoutspacesbetweenwordssoyoucanseethatitisonecontinuallineofcharacters.


You do *not*, apparently, have any kind of "automatic return" set on
your program - to 80 characters, or anything else. (BTW - 80
characters is the absolute *maximum* - and even that plays heck
when peole try to "quote" you. You need to press "enter," or
carriage return, *MANUALLY*, at the end of each line you type.

And you should do it at approximately 72 - 75 characters. The following
line is 72 "characters" long. Please try to limit your lines to
approximately that length. I know it is probably "against habit," IF you
have been used to using a typewriter that "returns" for you automatically
when you get to a certain length, but what you are doing now is making
your articles very difficult to read. I (and lots of other folks)
tend to skip over articles that have pages of over-run lines.

A 72 - CHARACTER LONG LINE

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If you are participating in an on-going discussion, and think that
perhaps folks will be responding to what you have written, and may
be "quoting" you, it is usually wise to keep lines *under* 72
characters. Just a few "attribution hash marks" can eat up the
extra space very quickly. A 65 character line length is preferable,
in active, "quoting" discussions. The following is a 65 character line:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Please learn to estimate your line lengths, and "break" appropriately.
Repeated "wraps," or line-over-runs, usually mark the postings of an
inconsiderate "Newbie."

Thenkew.


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On Tue, 08 Apr 1997 21:45:54 GMT, al...@cornell.edu (Adam Littman)
wrote:

>In article <tlsmithE...@netcom.com>, tls...@netcom.com (Terry L. Smith) wrote:
>
>> have occurred if, say, Kruschev hadn't backed off during the Cuban Missile
>> Crisis, or Kennedy had lived, or Hitler had been
>

>If Kruschev hadn't backed off the world would have been covered in little
>signs that said "If you can read this sign you're already dead"

Well, the problem with this scenario is that the U.S. knew that
Kruschev was going to back off. There was a double agent high up
within the Soviet hierarchy who was telling the U.S. what Kruschev
would do.

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