Smithers IS a homosexual, isn't he?
Lou Jacob
Has anyone been keeping track of the allusions to Smithers
homosexuality? Like in "The Dog is Dead" when Burns asked Smithers,
"How would YOU feel if you answered your door and I were sniffing your
crotch?"
I also remember an episode when Marge painted Mr Burns naked, and at
one point Smithers saw him and clearly looked at his butt.
I can vaguely remember some other ones, but they don't come to mind.
If anybody takes offense to this, oh well.
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genders of whomever else he is interested in?
Until quite recently, I believe that there were no explicit confirmations.
I'd count Smithers's misty reaction to Burns's suggestion of him sniffing his
crotch as an explicit confirmation. There was another reference a few weeks
ago which I can't recall at the moment. But of course the classic occurs in
Homer Defined, in which they think they're both about to die, and Smithers says
"I love you" to Burns.
Nevertheless, I recently saw an older episode, I think it was a first season
episode, in which Burns heartily expresses approval of some plan of Smithers's
and flippantly says "I love you Smithers", and Smithers gets somewhat
misty-eyed and says "The feeling is MORE than mutual, sir."
ajr
David P. Murphy
>Ahem, let us just say that he is sexually interested in Burns. Who knows the
>genders of whomever else he is interested in?
>
>Until quite recently, I believe that there were no explicit confirmations.
>about to die, and Smithers says "I love you" to Burns.
>
and, of course, a few moments later, the following dialogue
Burns: Well, Smithers, I guess there's nothing left to do
but kiss my sorry butt goodbye.
Smithers: May I, sir?
Burns: Bleah!!
ok
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Dale L. Wiles
writes:
> Has anyone been keeping track of the allusions to Smithers
> homosexuality?
I don't think he's gay, or at least I don't think his "gayness" is a part of
his character one way or the other. I think he's just a meta-toady. If Mr.
Burns were a woman, I think Smithers would act the same way. Compleatly
devoted, with no life of his own. He's just a boot-lick. It's more like the
love of God, than real person to person emotions.
As for Mr. Burns, he conciders Smithers a product, just like everyone else at
the plant. He "likes" him a little more, but he also has no trouble tossing
him off. (The show where Homer gets hair comes to mind.)
If it turns out that they have a comming out episode, the I think it would
take away from the uniquness of the relationship. "Devoted to the point of
insanity" is much funner than "blind in love and gets used." (Altho Mr. Burns
cruising the bars as a leather boy would be a scream!) Maybe Mr. Burns is
gay, but doesn't want Smithers?
Dale
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>Nevertheless, I recently saw an older episode, I think it was a first season
>episode, in which Burns heartily expresses approval of some plan of Smithers's
>and flippantly says "I love you Smithers", and Smithers gets somewhat
>misty-eyed and says "The feeling is MORE than mutual, sir."
That was "The Tell-Tale Head", when Burns is deeply moved by
Bart's tale.
Dale L. Wiles writes:
>Maybe Mr. Burns is gay, but doesn't want Smithers?
In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
bench, watching women.
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|> Dale L. Wiles writes:
|> >Maybe Mr. Burns is gay, but doesn't want Smithers?
|> In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
|> bench, watching women.
|>
and Smithers just seems pretty bored. Something like:
Burns: (excited) Look at the pair on that one, Smithers.
[shot of women's feet walking by with red shoes.]
Smithers: (deadpan) Yes, very nice, sir.
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Dave Litchman
> Dale L. Wiles writes:
> >Maybe Mr. Burns is gay, but doesn't want Smithers?
> In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
> bench, watching women.
>
Perhaps they're both closet gays, and are just putting on a show...
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Lou Jacob
>In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
>bench, watching women.
Ahh. That's right, I recall the dialogue (I think).
Burns: "That's it honey, work those ankles."
Smithers: "Ring-a-ding-ding, Sir."
Obviously, Smithers is "flexible."
John Trice
>Alan J Rosenthal writes:
>>Nevertheless, I recently saw an older episode, I think it was a first season
>>episode, in which Burns heartily expresses approval of some plan of Smithers's
>>and flippantly says "I love you Smithers", and Smithers gets somewhat
>>misty-eyed and says "The feeling is MORE than mutual, sir."
>Dale L. Wiles writes:
>>Maybe Mr. Burns is gay, but doesn't want Smithers?
>In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
>bench, watching women.
Also, in the episide where bart takes a picture of Homer and Princess
Cashmere, we see Mr. Burns and Smithers sitting at a table with
two women. (The women were twins as I remember)
Scott Amspoker
>Tom Kettenring writes:
>
>>In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
>>bench, watching women.
>
>Ahh. That's right, I recall the dialogue (I think).
>
>Burns: "That's it honey, work those ankles."
>Smithers: "Ring-a-ding-ding, Sir."
>
>Obviously, Smithers is "flexible."
I think both Smithers and Burns are *asexual* but for different reasons.
Burns probably thinks sex is for the lower classes and only gets in the
way of the path to true greatness. Smithers is determined to be
prominently mentioned in Burns' will. He will kiss Burns' butt for
all eternity if necessary - and *not* because he likes Burns' butt.
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> In article <1992Mar18....@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, kr...@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Kettenring) writes:
> |>
> |> Dale L. Wiles writes:
> |> >Maybe Mr. Burns is gay, but doesn't want Smithers?
> |> In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
> |> bench, watching women.
> |>
> But Mr. Burns we find out is just watching shoes or feet (a fetish?)
I think they were looking at the womens ankles. In the twenties and thirtys a
woman showing her ankles was consitered risque, and Mr. Burns seems to be
living in the past (look at his original choices for the softball team). This
also explains why Smithers was so bored, he is more in the present and ankles
don't excite him (unless they belong to Mr. Burns 8*) ).
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> In article <1992Mar19.0...@alliant.com> ja...@alliant.com (Lou Jacob) writes:
> >Tom Kettenring writes:
> >>In "One Fish, Two Fish, Blow Fish, Blue Fish" both sit on a
> >>bench, watching women.
> [stuff about Burns deleted] Smithers is determined to be
> prominently mentioned in Burns' will. He will kiss Burns' butt for
> all eternity if necessary - and *not* because he likes Burns' butt.
I disagree. What Smithers is doing is going way past butt kissing.
For example, his affection with Burns is displayed even when Burns isn't
around. I recall one episode at least where Marge asks him why he takes
all the abuse from Burns. Sorry, I'm not enough of a fan to remember
episode numbers and titles.
I think that MG and crew put this relationship in *specifically* so
that people like us could debate what is really going on here. Therefore,
I do not see that continuing on this thread (which I encourage all of you
to do) is not a waste of bandwidth as that other thread was (where is..).
Just my two cents worth....
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Dale L. Wiles
In article <1992Mar19.0...@alliant.com> ja...@alliant.com (Lou
Jacob) writes:
Smithers is determined to be
prominently mentioned in Burns' will. He will kiss Burns' butt for
all eternity if necessary - and *not* because he likes Burns' butt.
Nope, I don't buy it. When Monty ran out of blood, and was going to die,
Smithers ripped open shirt and and offered his own blood. If he was just in
it for the money he would have let him die. Smithers life is a tribute to Mr.
Burns. (As unworthy a tribute as it is.) Mr. Burns is an old testament god.
One screw up and yer out!!!
Dave Twombly
Germans and he took up bee keeping that he named the *queen* Smithers. Is
symbolic or suggesting something. I also heard that they were both gay. In
the episode two weeks ago when the Simpsons lost their dog (I think) there
was another reference made. Burns said to Smithers something to the point of
someone sitting on his face and Smithers said that he would like to do it.
If any one remembers this more clearly help me out.
-Dave
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"Smithers" and "Burns Lake" are two towns fairly close to each other.
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In that same episode, Burns asks for Homer's advice on how he developed
his "Animal Magneteesm" (I love the pronunciation) that women have towards
him (Homer). Also, Smithers does offer to help Burns on this problem
(I don't remember how) and MB says, (in approximate language)
"There are some things in this world you cannot give me". An actual quote
here would be much more revealing, I'm sure.
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