Or when he told Lisa "It's like that check I get every month from the
government. I don't need it, didn't earn it. But if I don't get it each
month, there'll be hell to pay."
I don't think Homer is a cut and dried Republican either. After all, he
voted for new Prell over old Prell. Everyone knows a staple of the
Republican party platform was to get Prell to revert back to the old
formula.
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>Just thought it would be an interesting question.
>Anyways, here's my opinion on the subject: the Simpsons are not all
>Democrats or Republicans, and some could be either one. Homer and Grandpa
>are obviously Republicans (Homer supports Mr. Burns in the gubernatorial
>election in 7F01; he complains about the "lousy Democrats" in 4F03;
>Grandpa whines that "there's a Demiecrat in the White House" in 3F19 (?)).
>Marge could go either way: she shows some liberal tendencies (supporting
>Mary Bailey in the 7F01 gubernatorial race, for example) but she also
>shows a conservative side (protesting against "Itchy and Scratchy"
>violence; sending Bart to a fundamentalist Christian school for about two
>minutes; etc). Lisa is obviously a Democrat: she's concerned with public
>education and environmental issues, hates Mr. Burns, and tends to irritate
>those in power. Bart doesn't seem to care either way.
Sideshow Bob, the murderer, ran for mayor as an ultra-right-wing
Republican. "The Simpsons" is so realistic and honest about Republicans'
tendencies to kill and maim. I wouldn't count on "The Simpsons" lasting
beyond next season, because surely, some scumfuck in Congress is going to
turn on their TV one day and find that the show dares to portray a
Republican in a negative fashion, and introduce legislation to censor it
and ban it from the airwaves.
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>Sideshow Bob, the murderer, ran for mayor as an ultra-right-wing
>Republican. "The Simpsons" is so realistic and honest about Republicans'
>tendencies to kill and maim. I wouldn't count on "The Simpsons" lasting
>beyond next season, because surely, some scumfuck in Congress is going to
>turn on their TV one day and find that the show dares to portray a
>Republican in a negative fashion, and introduce legislation to censor it
>and ban it from the airwaves.
Paul Galvanek, a very conservative Republican from Pittsburgh, implied that
in his flame of OFF and Matt Groening in October 1994, after "Sideshow Bob
Roberts" first aired.....didn't happen, though. Even the biggest scumfucks
(Dornan, Steve Stockman, Helen Chenoweth) didn't try it.
Senators Ex*n and Coates tried something like that recently too.
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>Just thought it would be an interesting question.
>
>Anyways, here's my opinion on the subject: the Simpsons are not all
>Democrats or Republicans, and some could be either one. Homer and Grandpa
>are obviously Republicans (Homer supports Mr. Burns in the gubernatorial
>election in 7F01; he complains about the "lousy Democrats" in 4F03;
>Grandpa whines that "there's a Demiecrat in the White House" in 3F19 (?)).
>Marge could go either way: she shows some liberal tendencies (supporting
>Mary Bailey in the 7F01 gubernatorial race, for example) but she also
>shows a conservative side (protesting against "Itchy and Scratchy"
>violence; sending Bart to a fundamentalist Christian school for about two
>minutes; etc). Lisa is obviously a Democrat: she's concerned with public
>education and environmental issues, hates Mr. Burns, and tends to irritate
>those in power. Bart doesn't seem to care either way.
Strange, I'd always assumed that Lisa was far too smart to be fooled
by the Democratic party. I've always pegged her as an independent,
voting for the person instead of a party.
The same thing seems to be true with Marge, too.
"Didn't you wonder why you were getting all that money, Grandpa?"
"I thought the Democrates were back in power!"
Nixon wasn't the only republican pres. Lots of repubs disliked Nixon,
but loved Reagan. Anyway, the jabs at Nixon that can be seen in the
show are a there because of Matt Groening's personal dislike of Nixon,
which he has made clear in a column in the Simpson's comic book.
Anyway, I think Homer's neither a republican or democrat cause quite
frankly, he isn't intelligent enough to figure out what each party
stands for. Remember the ep where Lisa's essay wins the fam a trip to
D.C.? One of the judges asks Homer if he helped Lisa out on her essay.
She asks him if he has any political views, and Homer shrugs and gives
her a blank look.
What gave you that idea? Ever heard of "campaign donations"?
By and large, Homer's on the right, and Marge (despite some conservative
leanings -- i.e. sanitizing Itchy & Scratchy) on the left.
Peter
> Homer's neither. In the episode where Apu is about to be deported
> and the simpsons try to defeat the proposition on the ballot that would
> deport all illegal alliens from springfield, right after they tell apu
> that they will fight to defeat the proposition, and that springfield has
> at least 4 people who are against the proposition apu says something to
> the effect of.
> "Great, but 2 of you are too young to vote,"
> Then homer chimes in "And I'm not registered"
>
> You can't be affiliated with a party if your not registered to vote.
> -Hunter
Sure you can. I'm not currently registered, and yet I give money to the
Republican Party. And in Texas, you don't register as a Republican or
Democrat anyway. (I was once a registered voter, just not at this moment)
M. Brann
--
"People need a leader more than a leader needs people."
--Bob Dylan, 1984
As a Simpsons fan with conservative political beliefs (I prefer
"conservative" to "Republican" because it shows commitment to a set of
beliefs rather than to a party) I just wanted to mention that I am able,
after many years of meditation and therapy, to keep my tendencies toward
maiming largely in check. I also keep tight hold on my killing
tendencies, although one time I did shoot a man in Reno just to watch him
die. I think I speak for most conservatives in saying, don't judge us for
our killing and maiming tendencies. We are merely products of our
society. Or . . . I mean . . . it's just an alternative lifestyle choice.
Words like "killer" and "maimer" are oppressive to us. We prefer
"differently abled in the moral sphere."
T.B continued:
: I wouldn't count on "The Simpsons" lasting
: beyond next season, because surely, some scumfuck in Congress is going to
: turn on their TV one day and find that the show dares to portray a
: Republican in a negative fashion, and introduce legislation to censor it
: and ban it from the airwaves.
Oh no. Although many of us Republican scumfucks would like to ban
individual shows, alas such legislation would constitute unconstitutional
bills of attainder and prior restraints. Our plan is to ban all humor.
So many on the left seem to have lost their senses of humor in a flurry of
self-righteousness that we figure the bill will slip by our opponents
without notice.
Then, our secret plan to start killing and maiming begins. Fools!!!
(Fiendish laughter) Oooops, I left the keyboard on.
>In article <33bbafa0...@netnews.att.net>, docq...@worldnet.att.net
>(Doc Quack) writes:
>
>> I'd always assumed that Lisa was far too smart to be fooled
>>by the Democratic party. I've always pegged her as an independent,
>>voting for the person instead of a party.
>
>Of course you mean you assume that how she'll vote in 10 years
>when she's over the annoying problem of being 8 years old and
>ineligible to vote.
>
>-Dave
As smart as she is now, I'd assume that she'll retain her intelligence
until she can vote. That's barring any brain damaging accident, of
course.
Of course, in the event of severe brain damage, she'd vote for the
straight democratic ticket!
(heh! Couldn't resist! I'll apologize later, after all the demos
scream!)
Vote the straight Mugwump Party!
Doc (Confirmed old Mugwump.)
Homer probably voted for Reagan in 80, 84, 88, 92 and 96,
because he thought it was still Morning in America.
He'll vote for Gore in 2000, though.
Gail
>I think they satirize both political groups on the Simpsons, therefore I
>doubt Homer is either.
Homer says he's "not registered" (Cant remember which ep)
Lisa will probably become a liberal Democrat...(environmental extremist,
vegetarian)
Marge is probably republican, because she voted for Mary Bailey
for governor, someone with "traditional values". (although she did help
Lisa clean up the oil spill--3F22--(environmentalist))
Bart will drift through life, not giving a damn about politics.
(except when he becomes chief justice of the Supreme Court)
I seem to recall that Homer isn't registered to vote... from TOW
Apu was going to be deported:
MARGE: Well, Apu, you have all of the Simpsons behind you!
APU: I appreciate that, but three of you are not of the legal age
to vote.
HOMER: And I'm not registered!
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>I think Grandpa is definitely a republican because is always complaining
>about the president being a demycrat and such.
Yes, and there's some brilliant commentary on that in "$pringfield (or,
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling." Grandpa and
Jasper complain about people wanting "something for nothing," then going
to the Social Security office and demanding their checks.
>In one episode Lisa said she wouldn't have voted for George Bush, but it
>was nice to have a celebrity around. She might be a Democrat.
>
>I think each member of the Simpsons family definitely has his or her own
>views and the whole family is not dem. or rep.
That was the point of my original message. I guess it got lost in the
shuffle. . .
: >I think they satirize both political groups on the Simpsons, therefore I
: >doubt Homer is either.
: Homer says he's "not registered" (Cant remember which ep)
"Personaly, think people who vote are a little 'fruity'..."
Homer J. Simpson
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: >I think Grandpa is definitely a republican because is always complaining
: >about the president being a demycrat and such.
: Yes, and there's some brilliant commentary on that in "$pringfield (or,
: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling." Grandpa and
: Jasper complain about people wanting "something for nothing," then going
: to the Social Security office and demanding their checks.
"I'm old! Gimme gimme gimme!"
> I think Grandpa is definitely a republican because is always complaining
> about the president being a demycrat and such.
>
> In one episode Lisa said she wouldn't have voted for George Bush, but it
> was nice to have a celebrity around. She might be a Democrat.
>
> I think each member of the Simpsons family definitely has his or her own
> views and the whole family is not dem. or rep.
>
>
>
Lisa is very liberal, and would probably be a democrat. But she's also
only 7 years old and not old enough to be in any political party. Neither
is Bart. And Homer isn't registered, even though he did get Bart to vote
for him once, somehow. Marge may be Republican or Democrat, but doesn't
seem like the type who would vote strictly based on the party she belongs
to. She would more likely vote for the best candidate. Maybe she's a
registered independent. In fact, Lisa would probably register as an
independent too, because partisan politics would probably be something
that she would stand out against.
Bart would most likely be republican (if he even cared about politics),
'cause he's a member of the NRA.
--
Andrew Scheer
Well, Matt Groening himself is obviously a democrat despite the owner of
FOX, Rupert Murdoch, is a republican. Sideshow Bob, the evil murderer,
was a republican. Grampa is definetly a democrat, when he supposedly
wrote Itchy and Scratchy cartoons and got checks in the mail, he said "I
thought the democrats were back in office". Marge is definetly a
democrat, she is a supporter of Quimby, a Kennedy like charcter.
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I don't know if Grandpa is a Democrat or not. I think his political
views are "I'm old! Gimme gimme gimme!!" That's kind of the joke with the
"I thought the Demmycrats were back in power." My guess is that he's just a
stereotype of an old guy who doesn't really have any political beliefs
beyond "Where's mine?" And remember, he was spanked by a Democrat on two
non-consecutive occasions (Grover Cleveland) so he might still be holding a
grudge. He's also pretty good at jumping on political bandwagons and giving
in to mob mentality. Remember, "Let's sacrifice him to our goooooods! We
did it all the time back in the thirties!" So we know that he wasn't
exactly leaning to the left during the New Deal era, which probably means
that he wasn't crazy about the extensive social programs of FDR.
And I don't think Marge is too keen on Diamond Joe. She supports
beloved social watchdog governor Mary Bailey, which indicates that she
is more of a "good government" type. If she opposes Monty Burns for his
political agenda, I can't see her supporting his equally morally-bankrupt
counterpart, Diamond Joe. (And where do we find out that Quimby is a
Democrat anyway?)
Actually, the political scene in Springfield reminds me of New
England's. Marge could very well be a liberal Republican, a species which
is almost extinct today except in New England. We know that local
government is corrupt, with Diamond Joe's mob affiliations and the corrupt
U.S. Representative from "Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington." This last episode
reminds me of the political scandals of the ABSCAM era, which caught mostly
Democrats, but only Eastern politicians taking bribes.
Gee, maybe we could start a "Where is Springfield?" argument based
on Springfield's political leanings. (ducks for cover as people worldwide
tell me that Springfield is in "North Takoma")
Nathan Dietz
And Groening has made it clear that he thought that Nixon was the
devil himself.
SIDESHOW BOB: You can't keep the Democrats out of office forever! When they get out, I'll be back
on the streets! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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We, the people of Massachusetts, voted for Dukakis, who ran against BUSH
(someone said Reagan). Of course I was 7 when that happened, but that
another story.
"I've lost my sense of direction."
"Have you tried Hare Krishna?"
I think the qoute was "You can't keep the Democrats out of the
White House forever, and when they get in, I'll be back on the streets,
with all my criminal buddies! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!"
Which means "As soon as the democrats get in and get their way,
I'll be back on the streets".
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Which means "As soon as the democrats get in and get their way,
I'll be back on the streets".<<
A funny thng about that was when that episode aired the Republicans were
in the White House. In the next Sideshow Bob episode- Clinton was
president- and there was a picture of Clinton prominently displayed in the
episode. If Bush had won re-election that episode may not have been made-
but the people at the Simpsons seem to know the future. In the Superbowl
episode they knew the winner would be Washington, and a year later when
the episode was redubbed, they knew the winer would be Texas- they were
right twice in a row.
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>If monty's a Rep., as we find in the same episode, then Mary baily would
>be a Democrat, so it seems, and Marge voted for her(Lisa supported her
>too) Draw your own conclusions. But then Monty had Bill Clinton in his
>office and seemed to be buddies with him. And homer was anti hippie so
>Republican for him, he cleared the protesters for bush remmeber?
Marge also voted for Jimmy Carter twice. As for Homer, we can assume he
takes little interest in politics. Note that, in "Much Apu About
Nothing," he forgot that he was registered to vote.
An aside, relating to Homer and Bush:
Why didn't Homer seem to recognize George Bush when the former President
moved to Springfield, if he (Homer) knew, in the snowplow episode, that
Bush had been President? Also, Bush should have recognized Homer. If you
recall, Bush was the only member of the Stonecutter High Council who did
not want to kill Homer.
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>Homer must be a Democrat.
>He doesn't make enough money to be a Republican.
>
Homer is an independent. It's not that he has any political views, he just
never votes and doesn't know a thing about either party.
FWIW:
Marge voted for Clinton according to the George Bush episode and is probably
a Democrat.
Lisa appears to be a future Democrat with her liberal views.
Bart is as politically clueless as Homer.
I've no idea what Maggie's political affiliation will be when she grows up.
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>rat...@ibm.net (Dave) writing:
>
>>Homer must be a Democrat.
>>He doesn't make enough money to be a Republican.
>>
>Homer is an independent. It's not that he has any political views, he
just
>never votes and doesn't know a thing about either party.
>
>FWIW:
>
>Marge voted for Clinton according to the George Bush episode and is
probably
>a Democrat.
>
>Lisa appears to be a future Democrat with her liberal views.
>
>Bart is as politically clueless as Homer.
>
>I've no idea what Maggie's political affiliation will be when she grows
up.
In "Lisa's Wedding" and other episodes, we find that Maggie is
left-handed.
Do you mean left-WING, as in Democratic, or did you just post something
unrelated to the topic?
The only refernce to voting for George Bush was when Lisa said she
wouldn't have voted for him. I don't recall Marge ever saying anything
about who she voted for.
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Homer isn't very political. In fact, he normally thinks that people who
vote are a bit fruity.
>>In "Lisa's Wedding" and other episodes, we find that Maggie is
>>left-handed.
>
>Do you mean left-WING, as in Democratic, or did you just post something
>unrelated to the topic?
It's called a joke.
No, she didn't, but she does say that Homer didn't vote at all in that
election.