Bring Conan O'Brien Back!
Frank Stewart
Is it just a coincidence that the best all-time Simpsons episodes were the
ones
that Conan O'Brien wrote or produced? I think not. Bring him back!!!
Jake Lennington
And while were at it, bring back: Vitti, Jean, Reiss, Kogan, Martin,
Daniels (now w/KOTH), Wolodarsky, and Stern.
These were the writing greats that made OFF an outstanding show for its
first five seasons. The current crop of writers can only pale in
comparison.
Its still a good show and I watch it, but it's not what it used to be.
Jake
BTW, it would be nice to see MG write an episode entirely. (He wrote
"Colonel Homer")
Jouni Paakkinen
Jake Lennington wrote:
>
> And while were at it, bring back: Vitti, Jean, Reiss, Kogan, Martin,
> Daniels (now w/KOTH), Wolodarsky, and Stern.
>
> These were the writing greats that made OFF an outstanding show for its
> first five seasons. The current crop of writers can only pale in
Excactly! I think Conan's effort is highly overestimated. If we look at
the current poll of best/worst episodes by Ben Collins:
BEST:
7 Last Exit to Springfield (9F15)
5 Lisa's Substitute (7F19)
4 Deep Space Homer (1F13)
4 Selma's Choice (9F11)
3 Bart Sells His Soul (3F02)
3 Lisa's Wedding (2F15)
2 Bart vs. Australia (2F13)
2 Boy Scoutz N The Hood (1F06)
2 Homer at the Bat (8F13)
2 Homer the Heretic (9F01)
2 Homer's Enemy (4F19)
2 King-Size Homer (3F05)
2 Marge vs. the Monorail (9F10)
2 Radio Bart (8F11)
2 22 Short Films About Springfield (3F18)
...only one (9F10) of top scoring episodes is written by Conan O'Brien.
I do not mean, that Conan was a bad writer. Monorail episode is great -
for example. I just want to point out (as Jake also did), that names
like Vitti, Kogen, Wolodarsky, Oakley, Swartzwelder, Jean, Reiss,
Martin, Stern and many others have provided us the THE classical
episodes of seasons 2-4, and should not be ignored even if they are not
otherwise well-known as Conan is. And, that you cannot pick any writer
and say that he is the one who made the Simpsons great. The list of good
Simpsons writers is much longer than my list above. Look up _your_
favorite episodes from the episode guide and see for yourself how many
writers wrote those particular ones, if you don't take my word for it.
--
Jouni Paakkinen "Get confident, stupid!"
http://www.utu.fi/~jopaakki/ -Troy McClure (The Simpsons)
Dale G. Abersold
(A) Talk-show hosts making seven figures a year rarely leave their
high-profile jobs in order to write for sitcoms.
(B) If they are going to bring back writers, better to bring back those from
seasons 1-3: Jon Vitti, David M. Stern, Jay Kogen & Wallace Wolodarsky,
Al Jean & Mike Reiss.
(C) With the exception of "New Kid on the Block", Conan's episodes, while
often funny, are very shallow, with little of the human depth that sets
"The Simpsons" apart from other series.
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Dave Humphreys
In article <YVmJle...@cc.usu.edu>, sl...@cc.usu.edu says...
>(B) If they are going to bring back writers, better to bring back those from
>seasons 1-3: Jon Vitti, David M. Stern, Jay Kogen & Wallace Wolodarsky,
>Al Jean & Mike Reiss.
>
Why did these writers leave? Were they fired?
Phil Reed
I know exactly what you mean, Dale, but New Kid was actually my least
favorite of O'Brien's episodes. I know and love a lot of episodes with
great characterization and real situations (IE: "When Flanders Failed,"
"Radio Bart," etc...) but sometimes it's nice to just have a funny episode.
Just funny. Shy away from real life for a moment...and laugh. I think this
was accompliced FLAWLESSLY in "Marge vs the Monorail," which is one of my
all time favorite episodes.
Tim155
>>it's nice to just have a funny episode. Just funny. Shy away from real life
for a moment...and laugh. I think this was accompliced FLAWLESSLY in "Marge vs
the Monorail," which is one of my all time favorite episodes.<<
Marge vs the Monorail was a fantastic episode. Conan was great. I wish he'd
return every so often to do an episode. Too bad most of the really great
writers have moved on and have been replaced with the likes of David Cohen.
Next season will probably be OFF's last- maybe some of the older writer will
come back to ebd the show on a high note.
Bartron
Not to be of offense, but I think Conan O'Brien is somewhat
overrated....People here look like he's the "god" of Simpsons writers
when in fact he only wrote three and a half episodes (the half being
one segment of a Halloween episode).....I don't think he's a bad
writer; "New Kid on the Block" was a wonderful episode....but
he's not that great. I personally don't care for the "Monorail",
which IMO is the only dud from season four. The great writers I
think are Jon Vitti, Jay Kogen and Wallace Wolodarsky, Greg Daniels among a few
others who are no longer around (and the OLD John Swartzwelder).....those are
the guys *I* want back, but it won't happen...
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Checkers86
which a lot of people regard as the apex of the series, not that I'm saying
that none of the others have been good, but it's probably more likely that
season 10 will reveal that Bart and Milhouse were switched at birth, that the
mystery fourth Simpson child, Garth, has been out on the road having his own
wacky adventures and has returned home in a Very Special Simpsons, and can
anyone say...."The Critic" Crossover II? than featuring the return of really
good writers who have since left..and not just Conan O' Brien! I mean, I like
his show and all, but when the heck did he become the God of All Simpsons
Writers?
Katie C
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David M Drake
In article <19971209003...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, bar...@aol.com (Bartron) wrote:
>Not to be of offense, but I think Conan O'Brien is somewhat
>overrated....People here look like he's the "god" of Simpsons writers
>when in fact he only wrote three and a half episodes (the half being
>one segment of a Halloween episode).....I don't think he's a bad
> writer; "New Kid on the Block" was a wonderful episode....but
>he's not that great. I personally don't care for the "Monorail",
>which IMO is the only dud from season four. The great writers I
>think are Jon Vitti, Jay Kogen and Wallace Wolodarsky, Greg Daniels among a few
>others who are no longer around (and the OLD John Swartzwelder).....those are
>the guys *I* want back, but it won't happen...
>
>
He did write some good episodes, but he only wrote 3 1/2 of them (I thought it
was 4 1/2, but it doesn't matter that much). I wouldn't mind if he wrote a
couple more, but I'm not dissappointed that he doesn't.
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AgntHARM
>I would have to say Conan gets a little more Simpsons credit than he is due.
>
>He did write some good episodes, but he only wrote 3 1/2 of them (I thought
>it
>was 4 1/2, but it doesn't matter that much). I wouldn't mind if he wrote a
>couple more, but I'm not dissappointed that he doesn't.
I don't think it's so much his actual writing, but more his involvement (along
with others from the "old school") Personally, I've been disappointed for the
past few years with the show. Yes, there are high and low points, but, say,
four years ago, the whole season would have been (for me) great.
Of course, I'm just (pause) one man. What can I do?