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Don Del Grande

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Jan 15, 2001, 12:01:25 AM1/15/01
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1/21 - Insane Clown Poppy (BABF17)
Drew Barrymore, Stephen King, Amy Tan, John Updike, and "Jay Mohr
as Christopher Walken" guest voice as Krusty gets a surprise at a
book signing: a daughter from a one-night stand during Operation
Desert Storm

1/28 - Lisa the Tree Hugger (CABF01)
Lisa gets a crush on an environmentalist who's protesting at
Krusty Burger, so she helps him protect Springfield's oldest giant
redwood tree from being torn down...by living in it


Upcoming "Futurama" Episodes
-----------------------------------------------------------
1/21 - Parasites Lost (3ACV02)
The crew shrink themselves in order to get inside of Fry to rid
him of parasites...which are doing more good than harm

1/28 - Raging Bender (2ACV08)
Bender gets involved in Ultimate Robot Fighting - but his big
title match ends up as a rematch between Leela and an old
adversary

WHAT HAPPENED TO "AMAZON WOMEN IN THE MOOD"?
I asked Patric M. Verrone; he replied that somebody at Fox decided to
hold onto it until February sweeps. It was not "withdrawn because of
Fox Standards & Practices".

STUFF for "Pokey Mom" (CABF05)
------------------------------
Written by Tom Martin
Directed by Bob Anderson
Blackboard: I WILL NOT "LET THE DOGS OUT"
Couch: The couch disappears behind the wall, replaced with Vincent
Price and an upside-down Ned (repeat of BABF03)
Special Guest Voice: Michael Keaton, Charles Napier, Robert Schimmel,
Bruce Vilanch, Marcia Wallace,
Also Starring: Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Karl Wiedergott
Rating: TV-PG-V
Overseas Animation: Rough Draft; Chang, Myung Nam

REVIEW: B - this was actually a slightly better than normal episode
(they even managed to break the "lead-in" into both the main plot and
the sub-plot), but the cable TV chat ending just stopped it cold.

REFERENCES
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"Pokemon" (title)
"Rugrats in Paris" (the song "Who Let The Dogs Out", a reference to
the couch opening, was written for the movie)
"Sex and the City" (Chief Wiggum refers to it at the end)
"The Sopranos"
"Oz"
"ESPN SportsCenter"
"World's Strongest Man"

DYNs
...the bull actually heads toward Lisa, even though bulls are color
blind? (They are attracted by motion, which is the main reason
toreadors wave capes)
...Doctor Steve sounds like Ned?
...Sideshow Bob is in state prison now?
...for someone who's been taken down by Lisa, Bart can sure handle
weights?
...you can see both the prison and the elementary school from the
Simpson kitchen - and both in pretty much the same spot?


GOOFS / FREEZE FRAME / WHATNOT
The "Who Let the Dogs Out" (from "Rugrats in Paris") is about as close
as they've come to a reference to the show's original animation
studio, Klasky-Csupo - even though the blackboard quote refers to the
popularity of the song (for example, at NFL stadiums) more than the
movie.

Chief Wiggum's hat brim goes behind his eyes as he's adjusting his hat
while talking about "Sex and the City"

Prisoners doing telemarketing is a bad idea - the last thing you want
to give a criminal is a credit card number.

It shouldn't be possible to see the original mural, much less in its
entirety, as the second one burned.


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dave

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Jan 15, 2001, 1:21:13 AM1/15/01
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Don Del Grande wrote:

> "Rugrats in Paris" (the song "Who Let The Dogs Out", a reference to
> the couch opening, was written for the movie)

no, it wasn't.

gboudreau

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Jan 15, 2001, 9:26:37 AM1/15/01
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your right, I heard that song WAY before Rugrats in Paris on some weird
dance album

Dartheodore Maximillian Arada III

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Jan 15, 2001, 10:08:39 AM1/15/01
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<WHAT HAPPENED TO "AMAZON WOMEN IN THE MOOD"?
I asked Patric M. Verrone; he replied that somebody at Fox decided to
hold onto it until February sweeps. It was not "withdrawn because of
Fox Standards & Practices".>

Dang straight.

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Pooty

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Jan 15, 2001, 12:23:47 PM1/15/01
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If I'm not mistaking wasn't that song one of those annoying summer pop
songs that that usually disappears as soon a september hits. Some how
this one has lasted this long I don't know why.

Andrew Levine

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Jan 15, 2001, 2:43:26 PM1/15/01
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Indeed, the album "Who Let The Dogs Out" was released on July 25, 2000, and I'm
sure the single was released earlier. The movie came out on Thanksgiving
weekend 2000, a full four months after the album. So Don is wrong.

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Jan 15, 2001, 2:47:44 PM1/15/01
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Pooty wrote:

Do any of you people actual watch sports? That song first began it's rise in
Seattle where the PA Coordinator was searching for songs to play during the
game and came across "Who Let the Dogs Out" and some compilation. He played
it as a back-up catcher came to bat because he had not chosen a personal
song since he was just called up. Alex Rodriguez. who's nickname was "Dawg"
heard it and immediately made it his song. It became very popular with the
crowd and slowly filtered to other stadiums, sports. It's huge in football,
often played after a QB sack.
Sincerely,
Little Girl

dave

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Jan 15, 2001, 4:57:29 PM1/15/01
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Andrew Levine wrote:

> Indeed, the album "Who Let The Dogs Out"

> was released on July 25, 2000...

also, baja boys' is the third group to record the tune...apparently, the
original came out in '97 or '98, and wasn't quite as "fun" as the version
we've all come to know and loathe.

The Rack

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"Don Del Grande" <del_g...@netvista.net> wrote in message
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> Prisoners doing telemarketing is a bad idea - the last thing you want
> to give a criminal is a credit card number.

I think that was the joke.

(You suck McBain)

A volley of grenades fly into the audience.

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Baha Men's next single has a sample of The Lion Sleeps Tonight. Jeebus,
save me.

ian


Don Del Grande

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>> Indeed, the album "Who Let The Dogs Out"
>> was released on July 25, 2000...

That by itself doesn't mean that my original statement was wrong - it
wouldn't be the first song that was intended to be in a movie that was
released before the movie was. (Remember that animated movies take
years to make.)

>also, baja boys' is the third group to record the tune...apparently, the
>original came out in '97 or '98, and wasn't quite as "fun" as the version
>we've all come to know and loathe.

Now that I didn't know...

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Don Del Grande, del_g...@netvista.net
Still, I find it a little, well, "suspicious" that a song that
happened to appear during production of the movie and that ended up in
it wouldn't have had at least some publicity push from Paramount (the
movie's co-producers)

Steve

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Jan 15, 2001, 10:14:00 PM1/15/01
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> DYNs
> ...the bull actually heads toward Lisa, even though bulls are color
> blind? (They are attracted by motion, which is the main reason
> toreadors wave capes)

Well Homer was waving her around...
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Benjamin Robinson

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Jan 15, 2001, 10:42:42 PM1/15/01
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In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Upcoming Episodes plus STUFF for "Pokey Mom"

(CABF05)" thread, Don Del Grande wrote:

>but the cable TV chat ending just stopped it cold.

I rather liked the ending. The idea that a prisoner and cop should be able
to chat so casually about cable TV struck me as amusing.

>...you can see both the prison and the elementary school from the
> Simpson kitchen - and both in pretty much the same spot?

Was Marge actually seeing this, or was it in her mind? I'm not certain, but
I thought we saw first the empty hill, and then the prison. I figured this
was an artistic liberty taken to let us see what was on Marge's mind.
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The Matt Thompson

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Jan 16, 2001, 1:10:35 PM1/16/01
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The Rack wrote:
>
> "Don Del Grande" <del_g...@netvista.net> wrote in message
> news:gv056tcrp69t2o69j...@4ax.com...
>
> > Prisoners doing telemarketing is a bad idea - the last thing you
> > want to give a criminal is a credit card number.
>
> I think that was the joke.

Uh...no joke. Prisoners have been used as cheap telemarketing labor for
a while (by companies like AT&T, among others). As cheap labor for
anything, really. Last June, there was the story about Utah scrapping
its prisoner telemarketing center since a prisoner used the equipment to
send letters to teenage girls. Similar things also happened in other
states that forced them to drop their programs.

In fact, this aspect of prison labor was used in a JAG episode a while
back.

Sorry if this repeats anything said in another thread. Just had to day
it!
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The Rack

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Jan 16, 2001, 3:38:19 PM1/16/01
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"The Matt Thompson" <thom...@colorado.edu> wrote in message
news:3A648E9B...@colorado.edu...

> The Rack wrote:
> >
> > "Don Del Grande" <del_g...@netvista.net> wrote in message
> > news:gv056tcrp69t2o69j...@4ax.com...
> >
> > > Prisoners doing telemarketing is a bad idea - the last thing you
> > > want to give a criminal is a credit card number.
> >
> > I think that was the joke.
>
> Uh...no joke. Prisoners have been used as cheap telemarketing labor
> for a while (by companies like AT&T, among others). As cheap labor
> for anything, really. Last June, there was the story about Utah
> scrapping its prisoner telemarketing center since a prisoner used the
> equipment to send letters to teenage girls. Similar things also
> happened in other states that forced them to drop their programs.

I maintain that it <was> a joke. It was satirical commentary. I have heard
about similar things happening. Of course, allowing criminals access to
credit cards probably <wouldn't> happen in real life. It was an exaggeration
of the truth, and therefore satirical.

Steve

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The Rack wrote:
>
> "The Matt Thompson" <thom...@colorado.edu> wrote in message
> news:3A648E9B...@colorado.edu...
> > The Rack wrote:
> > >
> > > "Don Del Grande" <del_g...@netvista.net> wrote in message
> > > news:gv056tcrp69t2o69j...@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > > Prisoners doing telemarketing is a bad idea - the last thing you
> > > > want to give a criminal is a credit card number.
> > >
> > > I think that was the joke.
> >
> > Uh...no joke. Prisoners have been used as cheap telemarketing labor
> > for a while (by companies like AT&T, among others). As cheap labor
> > for anything, really. Last June, there was the story about Utah
> > scrapping its prisoner telemarketing center since a prisoner used the
> > equipment to send letters to teenage girls. Similar things also
> > happened in other states that forced them to drop their programs.
>
> I maintain that it <was> a joke. It was satirical commentary. I have heard
> about similar things happening. Of course, allowing criminals access to
> credit cards probably <wouldn't> happen in real life. It was an exaggeration
> of the truth, and therefore satirical.
>
So, despite all evidence to the contrary, you maintain that Smithers is
straight?
Err... I mean... that it was a joke?

The Rack

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"Steve" <night...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3A64BFC8...@home.com...

> The Rack wrote:
> >
> > "The Matt Thompson" <thom...@colorado.edu> wrote in message
> > news:3A648E9B...@colorado.edu...
> > > The Rack wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Don Del Grande" <del_g...@netvista.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:gv056tcrp69t2o69j...@4ax.com...
> > > >
> > > > > Prisoners doing telemarketing is a bad idea - the last thing you
> > > > > want to give a criminal is a credit card number.
> > > >
> > > > I think that was the joke.
> > >
> > > Uh...no joke. Prisoners have been used as cheap telemarketing labor
> > > for a while (by companies like AT&T, among others). As cheap labor
> > > for anything, really. Last June, there was the story about Utah
> > > scrapping its prisoner telemarketing center since a prisoner used the
> > > equipment to send letters to teenage girls. Similar things also
> > > happened in other states that forced them to drop their programs.
> >
> > I maintain that it <was> a joke. It was satirical commentary. I have
heard
> > about similar things happening. Of course, allowing criminals access to
> > credit cards probably <wouldn't> happen in real life. It was an
exaggeration
> > of the truth, and therefore satirical.
> >
> So, despite all evidence to the contrary, you maintain that Smithers
> is straight? Err... I mean... that it was a joke?

I don't know what evidence there was to the contrary. It was clear to me
that the warden talking about the prisoners' "telemarketing duties" was
commentary.

As far a Smithers goes...

I remember the first time I actually felt the writers had screwed up: 2F16.
Up to and through most of season 6, I thoroughly enjoyed the Simpsons. I
felt in awe of the writers, that they could come up with such funny stuff
week after week.

Then, the whole thing with Smithers saying "no" to Mr. Burns hit the fan.
I'd always seen the characters of the Simpsons as satirical. Apu was the
typical convenience-store worker, and Smithers was the typical
apple-polishing, butt kissing lackey. I'd always felt that Smithers'
"gay-ish" leanings toward Mr. Burns were really just an exaggeration of his
sychophantic ways--ie, he kissed butt, licked spittle to the exaggerated
point of appearing to actually _love_ his boss. It didn't matter to me
whether he was actually _gay_, or not.

Satire was the chief and only reason for me to watch the Simpsons, and here
they broke Smithers from his stereotypical mode of the ultimate lackey. I
always felt like there was more to satirize in the way of Smithers; I wanted
to see just how far Smithers would go to please Burns, because he was the
ultimate apple-polisher. Never did I think they'd ruin a character by
fleshing him out. Alas, the Simpsons writers irritated me for the very first
time by destroying any future opportunity to see Smithers going to extreme
measures to please Mr. Burns. After all--he was only objecting to Burns' sun
blocker. He'd been willing to KILL for Burns, in other episodes.

I find it not-so-coincidental that the first change in Executive Producers
(to Oakley and Weinstein) probably changed the show's concept from more
satirical, to more character-oriented shows. There have been some good
episodes since that debacle--and 2F16 itself, humor-wise, was pretty good.
But by and large, satire has been disappearing exponentially since season 6,
until all we have are potty humor, sitcom-style "set 'em up, knock 'em down"
punchlines, and oblique sexual references. The concept of the show seems to
have been entirely lost.

There is hope on the horizon, however, since one of the more satirical
writers on the staff--Al Jean--will be taking over as EP next year. Maybe he
can clear up the show's current muddled concept that Mike Scully has so
unceremoniously destroyed in 2 short years.

-Chad Lehman

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