Lisa is selfish - I hate her
Helen Brownlee
I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish. She
thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
And when Bart, Milhouse, Nelson and Martin go on a roadtrip, Bart makes
up the excuse that he is going to a Grammar rodeo. Lisa makes that point
that surely SHE would have heard of it and be going to it. She was also
jealous when Bart was sent to a school for the gifted and she wasn't
allowed to go. She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
her and humiliated her on live TV.
I think that she should be removed from the show. I hate Lisa!
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Helen Brownlee
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She's a freakin' cartoon character! What are you going to do,
discipline her! Geeze!
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In article <+2VGFHAb...@brleathr.demon.co.uk>, Helen Brownlee
<NE...@brleathr.demon.co.uk> writes:
I think your jealous of Lisa or else you wouldn't care so much. Now Simpsons
isn't Simpsons without Lisa or any of the other characters. After Lisa was mean
to Ralph on that one episode she apologized! I don't really think you watch
the Simpsons through and through. There's nothing you can do about it sweetie.
You can whine and beg all you want but Lisa is still going to be part of the
show. Try again next time.
Sascha
LordFlesh
I agree with Helen...Lisa is not automatically good because she adopts
socially and politically correct causes...like many bleeding hearts, her
display of compassion for others is nothing more than self-serving
hypocrisy aimed at easing her discomfort with her lot in life. I think this
is the true intent of the show's creators...and they have achieved rthe
desired effect with Ms. Brownlee
Helen Brownlee <NE...@brleathr.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<+2VGFHAb...@brleathr.demon.co.uk>...
Benjamin Kittleson
I think I can see where you are coming from, though I don't think I
hate her. I remember earlier this season, when Homer coached the
football team, Lisa walked onto the field to make an equality statement,
announcing that she wanted to play footballe too. When she found out
there were already girls on the team, she didn't want to play a game
that used the skin of a defenseless pig. She is pretty selfish, but at
the same time, unnoticed in many ways. She just wants to be counted.
That is one of the humorous parts of The Simpsons.
Buchanun
>I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
>She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish. She
>thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
>For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
>to be able to afford it the family
>is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
If I remember right everyone complains
The only difference between genius and insanity is the measure of
success----Elliot Carver(Jonathan Pryce) "Tomorrow Never Dies"
Helen Brownlee
Me? Jealous of Lisa? That should be a larf.
I'm sorry, but Lisa is the worst character in the Simpsons.
Lisa is heartless and she think's she somthing special cause she has the
ability to use the brain God gave her. Lisa sucks more than anyone else.
She's not even funny. At least the other characters make you laugh, Lisa
makes you puke and want to hit her.
--
Helen Brownlee
Paul Buxton
In article <34D7E5...@iname.com>, Benjamin Kittleson
<rb...@iname.com> writes
The football thing was probably a continuity error as the writers didn't
realise there were already girls on the team. :)
(The previous paragraph was seriously sarcastic)*
Didn't you think the scene was funny though? It's probably as close as
we get to an in-joke these days. When Lisa is shown as selfish it's
because she's written that way, but I feel this scene was written to
expose Lisa once again as a PC thug, something she has been accused of
before and vehemently denied, this time no denial was possible and she
could only make a lame excuse and sheepishly walk away. Maybe she will
now learn humility and chill out a bit, personally I hope not, I like
Lisa the way she is.
Oh and by the way, since when has wanting equality been selfish? The
mere fact that inequality exists means that selfishness exists but
surely it isn't on the part of the "sheep" (re: Orwell's Animal Farm).
--
Paul Buxton
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"No you can't play with it, you won't enjoy it on as many levels as I do"-Frink
* Standard statement for those who just can't tell.
Gordon Bernard
In article <o0ovhAAf...@brleathr.demon.co.uk>,
NE...@brleathr.demon.co.uk says...
So they got your attention.
In 1990, when the Simpsons were first advertised by Sky on billboards,
they were 'The family you can believe in', or something very similar.
They were yellow and very funny, but who on earth behaves like that?
People went on about them then, and still go on about them now. The
characters are very obvious, interact hilariously with their
surroundings, but the shows do vary. Watch some of them while in a funny
mood and you may not even laugh.
Let's face it, the cartoons of the '50s were abnormally violent, and the
Simpsons are a welcome respite.
Benjamin Robinson
Ah, yes. Another month, another new Lisa-bashing post.
In "Re: Lisa is selfish - I hate her," Helen Brownlee wrote:
>> I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
>> She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish.
Really? I think that, next to Marge, she's the least selfish one of the
bunch.
>> She
>> thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
Uh, oh, sounds like someone here <is> jealous, and it isn't Lisa. Exactly
what did Lisa say that sounded like she made herself out to be superior? In
"Homer Define (8F04)," she quickly takes Homer as a role model after he
saves Springfield from a meltdown. Even when it's revealed that he only
saved the city by accident, she refuses to put him down. If Lisa were as
convinced of her own superiority as you believe, she would never have done
that.
>> For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
>> untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
>> is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
First, Lisa isn't the only one to complain. Homer quickly complains about
cutting back on food and beer. Eventually, the whole family turns on SLH --
even Bart, and SLH is his dog!
Second, I think Lisa has a legitamite gripe. Cutting back on luxuries is
one thing, but now we're interfering with schoolwork. Admittedly, there
wasn't much the family could do about this, but I don't blame Lisa for
feeling bad about it.
>> And when Bart, Milhouse, Nelson and Martin go on a roadtrip, Bart makes
>> up the excuse that he is going to a Grammar rodeo. Lisa makes that point
>> that surely SHE would have heard of it and be going to it.
Lisa says, "I'm the best student in school, how come I never heard about
this competition?" This is not quite the same thing you claim it is. As
one of Springfield Elementary's brightest pupils, Lisa would be in a good
position to hear about an academic contest. (That "best student" isn't an
idle boast, either. Principal Skinner called ther this in "Who Shot Mr.
Burns? Part I (2F16).") The fact that she hadn't heard of the "grammar
rodeo" naturally aroused her suspicions.
And let's not forget one important fact: Lisa was right. Bart <was> trying
to scam his parents.
>> She was also
>> jealous when Bart was sent to a school for the gifted and she wasn't
>> allowed to go.
Actually, she was annoyed because Bart got to go to this (supposedly) cool
gifted school when he obviously did not deserve it. I don't think she once
said anything about going herself.
>> She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
>> her and humiliated her on live TV.
You've never once snapped at someone in a moment of anger? Either (a) you
haven't lived very long or (b) you're a candidate for sainthood. As you
point out, Lisa was humiliated on live TV <in front of thousands of people>.
Anybody would be just a little peeved, dontcha think? Besides, once Lisa
cooled down, she thought the better of it and made amends with Ralph.
Sheesh, stop reading things into Lisa's actions that aren't there. You
might see that, while she's subject to the same frailties as everyone else,
Lisa is a very kind soul.
(Now if you want to complain jealousy and stupidity, try Homer. I think
he's a terrific character but if anyone on the show is prone to being
envious or dim-witted, it's him.)
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JEdraw
>I think that Lisa has to be the worst
>character in the show. She is
>self-centered, jealous, obnoxious
>not to mention selfish.
You just described every character on the show!
>>>>>>>>>>
Jordan Eisenberg -- JEd...@aol.com
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Simpson! Springfield's answer to a question NO ONE ASKED!
-- "Hurricane Neddy"
Ondre Lombard
On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Benjamin Robinson wrote:
> Ah, yes. Another month, another new Lisa-bashing post.
>
> In "Re: Lisa is selfish - I hate her," Helen Brownlee wrote:
>
> >> I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
> >> She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish.
>
> Really? I think that, next to Marge, she's the least selfish one of the
> bunch.
The sheer ignorance of this post astounds me. The Simpsons is filled
with characters that are obnoxious, self-centered, jealous and selfish. To
say "Oh, I don't like Lisa because she's [the things aforementioned]" is to
say "I don't like The Simpsons," because it's clear to anyone who's watched
more than two episodes that practically everyone in Springfield is an asshole,
and compared to them Lisa is sweet, and very mild-mannered.
> >> She
> >> thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
>
> Uh, oh, sounds like someone here <is> jealous, and it isn't Lisa. Exactly
> what did Lisa say that sounded like she made herself out to be superior? In
> "Homer Define (8F04)," she quickly takes Homer as a role model after he
> saves Springfield from a meltdown. Even when it's revealed that he only
> saved the city by accident, she refuses to put him down. If Lisa were as
> convinced of her own superiority as you believe, she would never have done
> that.
I would like to see an example of this, myself. If she were such a
snob she wouldn't mingle with people as immature and less gifted
intellectually as Janey, or the girls she had over for a slumber party in
"Flaming Moe's." It gets me how some people equate intelligence to snobbery.
> >> For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
> >> untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
> >> is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
>
> First, Lisa isn't the only one to complain. Homer quickly complains about
> cutting back on food and beer. Eventually, the whole family turns on SLH --
> even Bart, and SLH is his dog!
>
> Second, I think Lisa has a legitamite gripe. Cutting back on luxuries is
> one thing, but now we're interfering with schoolwork. Admittedly, there
> wasn't much the family could do about this, but I don't blame Lisa for
> feeling bad about it.
Anyone as unobservant as Helen Brownlee has lost all credibility. Did
she just tape 8F17, and edit out everything besides Lisa scenes? Because,
anyone with two eyeballs and working eardrums could see that the entire family
was mad at SLH, for reasons even more minute than Lisa's. (Bart having to get
a second-rate haircut, IMO, doesn't quite measure up with an academic loss.)
> >> She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
> >> her and humiliated her on live TV.
>
> You've never once snapped at someone in a moment of anger? Either (a) you
> haven't lived very long or (b) you're a candidate for sainthood. As you
> point out, Lisa was humiliated on live TV <in front of thousands of people>.
> Anybody would be just a little peeved, dontcha think? Besides, once Lisa
> cooled down, she thought the better of it and made amends with Ralph.
Nevermind, Lisa was very tolerant of Ralph's irritating behavior up
until that point. It was kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back.
I suppose since Lisa and Marge are supposed to be more subdued, they're
supposed to be superhuman, and able to stifle their emotions at all times just
so that they aren't judged as "obnoxious, jealous, selfish."
> (Now if you want to complain jealousy and stupidity, try Homer. I think
> he's a terrific character but if anyone on the show is prone to being
> envious or dim-witted, it's him.)
Yes. We could write an entire 32-page essay on the obnoxious, cruel,
jealous and selfish things Homer's done. And what about Bart? He destroyed
Lisa's centerpiece on Thanksgiving, and didn't feel like he had to apologize
for it. (Now, of course that's the short-sighted, ignorant way of looking at
it. In actuality, of course, he did eventually see his error and apologize.)
In all honesty, I'd have to say this is the stupidest "Hate Lisa" post
I've seen to date. At least the others were valid, two-bit opinions. This is
just a lot of unfounded slander based upon misread observations.
> --
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Ondre Lombard <olom...@lombard.cyberverse.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Benjamin Robinson wrote:
>
> > >> She
> > >> thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
> >
> > Uh, oh, sounds like someone here <is> jealous, and it isn't Lisa. Exactly
> > what did Lisa say that sounded like she made herself out to be superior?
In
> > "Homer Define (8F04)," she quickly takes Homer as a role model after he
> > saves Springfield from a meltdown. Even when it's revealed that he only
> > saved the city by accident, she refuses to put him down. If Lisa were as
> > convinced of her own superiority as you believe, she would never have done
> > that.
>
> I would like to see an example of this, myself. If she were such a
> snob she wouldn't mingle with people as immature and less gifted
> intellectually as Janey, or the girls she had over for a slumber party in
> "Flaming Moe's." It gets me how some people equate intelligence to snobbery.
As it's been said before, they feel inferior to characters like Lisa and want
to find "legitimate" reasons ("She's just a nerd who takes time away from
Homer" has been rightly shot down too hard). So they take her intelligence and
social conscience out of context, turning it into "snobbery" (or "Marxist
protodykeism," but that's another issue).
> > >> For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
> > >> untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
> > >> is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
> >
> > First, Lisa isn't the only one to complain. Homer quickly complains about
> > cutting back on food and beer. Eventually, the whole family turns on SLH
--
> > even Bart, and SLH is his dog!
> >
> > Second, I think Lisa has a legitamite gripe. Cutting back on luxuries is
> > one thing, but now we're interfering with schoolwork. Admittedly, there
> > wasn't much the family could do about this, but I don't blame Lisa for
> > feeling bad about it.
>
> Anyone as unobservant as Helen Brownlee has lost all credibility. Did
> she just tape 8F17, and edit out everything besides Lisa scenes? Because,
> anyone with two eyeballs and working eardrums could see that the entire
family
> was mad at SLH, for reasons even more minute than Lisa's. (Bart having to
get
> a second-rate haircut, IMO, doesn't quite measure up with an academic loss.)
Continuing with the "intelligence as snobbery" theme, these people will find
any reason to suppress the brains which threaten them so. So they characterize
any distress over schoolwork that can't be done as illegitimate bellyaching.
> > >> She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
> > >> her and humiliated her on live TV.
> >
> > You've never once snapped at someone in a moment of anger? Either (a) you
> > haven't lived very long or (b) you're a candidate for sainthood. As you
> > point out, Lisa was humiliated on live TV <in front of thousands of
people>.
> > Anybody would be just a little peeved, dontcha think? Besides, once Lisa
> > cooled down, she thought the better of it and made amends with Ralph.
>
> Nevermind, Lisa was very tolerant of Ralph's irritating behavior up
> until that point. It was kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back.
> I suppose since Lisa and Marge are supposed to be more subdued, they're
> supposed to be superhuman, and able to stifle their emotions at all times
just
> so that they aren't judged as "obnoxious, jealous, selfish."
Different standards for different people... But this is The Simpsons, not "Full
House." The characters are very three-dimensional. Ignoring the half-assed
characterizations from hacks like Donick Cary, you will see that Lisa is an
important balancing force on the show, and the only questioner of Springfield's
"iteits" besides Marge.
> In all honesty, I'd have to say this is the stupidest "Hate Lisa" post
> I've seen to date. At least the others were valid, two-bit opinions. This
is
> just a lot of unfounded slander based upon misread observations.
Exactly. Plus, this poster won't see the big picture and sees Lisa only from
her very limited viewpoint.
Ben Collins
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Helen Brownlee wrote in message ...
>Me? Jealous of Lisa? That should be a larf.
>I'm sorry, but Lisa is the worst character in the Simpsons.
>Lisa is heartless and she think's she somthing special cause she has the
>ability to use the brain God gave her. Lisa sucks more than anyone else.
>She's not even funny. At least the other characters make you laugh, Lisa
>makes you puke and want to hit her.
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she think's she somthing special cause she has the ability to use the brain
God gave her.
Well, we know why you'd be so upset by that...
Ondre Lombard
On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Helen Brownlee wrote:
> Me? Jealous of Lisa? That should be a larf.
> I'm sorry, but Lisa is the worst character in the Simpsons.
> Lisa is heartless and she think's she somthing special cause she has the
> ability to use the brain God gave her. Lisa sucks more than anyone else.
> She's not even funny. At least the other characters make you laugh, Lisa
> makes you puke and want to hit her.
Oh, I see. So in reality, the only reason you don't like Lisa's
so-called negative behavior is because it isn't "funny." So, Homer can do
nasty things like he did to Frank Grimes in "Homer's Enemy," but as long as
he's funny, it doesn't matter. In that case, quit bullshitting the newsgroup
with your gripe about Lisa's obnoxious character traits when all you care
about is how funny she is. It is a pity that you are such a superficial soul,
and can't see the good side and humorous side of ALL the Simpsons characters.
And, by the way, I'm sure if any of the people who care about Lisa in
the series were real enough to see your short-sighted comments, they'd bawl
your butt out, too.
Ondre
Satmar Hassidim
Science has established that without a trustworthy, honest
mentor to give her advice, a young teen or 7-something girl
can easily spiral into behaviors like preaching Marxism
or sneering at Christianity. Please, don't blame little Lisa
for the manifestations of evil; blame instead the parodies
of her corrupt mentors who seek to instill in children all the
worst that society has to offer. Exposure to russian jews and
faggots will inevitably and rapidly produce these symptoms in
otherwise normal children. The cure? A good spanking followed
by a book report on THE PILGRIM'S PROGRESS in the offending child.
Roycer
Looks like the rumors of his demise were greatly exaggerated. . .
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Helen Brownlee
In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.98020...@lombard.dialup.cyber
verse.com>, Ondre Lombard <olom...@lombard.cyberverse.com> writes
he was doing, so I hardly think that Homer us like Lisa.
--
Helen Brownlee
Helen Brownlee
In article <34d8e95...@198.69.104.3>, Benjamin Robinson
<bj...@freenet.tlh.fl.us> writes
>Ah, yes. Another month, another new Lisa-bashing post.
>
>In "Re: Lisa is selfish - I hate her," Helen Brownlee wrote:
>
>>> I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
>>> She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish.
>
>Really? I think that, next to Marge, she's the least selfish one of the
>bunch.
>
>>> thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
>
>Uh, oh, sounds like someone here <is> jealous, and it isn't Lisa. Exactly
>what did Lisa say that sounded like she made herself out to be superior? In
>"Homer Define (8F04)," she quickly takes Homer as a role model after he
>saves Springfield from a meltdown. Even when it's revealed that he only
>saved the city by accident, she refuses to put him down. If Lisa were as
>convinced of her own superiority as you believe, she would never have done
>that.
>
>>> untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
>>> is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
>
>First, Lisa isn't the only one to complain. Homer quickly complains about
>cutting back on food and beer. Eventually, the whole family turns on SLH --
>even Bart, and SLH is his dog!
>
>Second, I think Lisa has a legitamite gripe. Cutting back on luxuries is
>one thing, but now we're interfering with schoolwork. Admittedly, there
>wasn't much the family could do about this, but I don't blame Lisa for
>feeling bad about it.
>
>>> up the excuse that he is going to a Grammar rodeo. Lisa makes that point
>>> that surely SHE would have heard of it and be going to it.
>
>Lisa says, "I'm the best student in school, how come I never heard about
>this competition?" This is not quite the same thing you claim it is. As
>one of Springfield Elementary's brightest pupils, Lisa would be in a good
>position to hear about an academic contest. (That "best student" isn't an
>idle boast, either. Principal Skinner called ther this in "Who Shot Mr.
>Burns? Part I (2F16).") The fact that she hadn't heard of the "grammar
>rodeo" naturally aroused her suspicions.
>
>And let's not forget one important fact: Lisa was right. Bart <was> trying
>to scam his parents.
>
>>> She was also
>>> jealous when Bart was sent to a school for the gifted and she wasn't
>>> allowed to go.
>
>Actually, she was annoyed because Bart got to go to this (supposedly) cool
>gifted school when he obviously did not deserve it. I don't think she once
>said anything about going herself.
>
>>> her and humiliated her on live TV.
>
>You've never once snapped at someone in a moment of anger? Either (a) you
>haven't lived very long or (b) you're a candidate for sainthood. As you
>point out, Lisa was humiliated on live TV <in front of thousands of people>.
>Anybody would be just a little peeved, dontcha think? Besides, once Lisa
>cooled down, she thought the better of it and made amends with Ralph.
>
>might see that, while she's subject to the same frailties as everyone else,
>Lisa is a very kind soul.
>
>he's a terrific character but if anyone on the show is prone to being
>envious or dim-witted, it's him.)
>Benjamin Robinson bj...@freenet.tlh.fl.us
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jealous of Lisa and her superiority. To be jealous of a cartoon is
stupid. Your post was very well pointed out and did change my attitude
towards Lisa a little. There are always to sides to every coin. Thank
you for not trying to make this article look as though you thought I was
some jackass with nothing better to do than to gripe about a cartoon.
--
Helen Brownlee
JEdraw
In article <o0ovhAAf...@brleathr.demon.co.uk>, Helen Brownlee
<NE...@brleathr.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Lisa is heartless and she think's she
>somthing special cause she has the
>ability to use the brain God gave her.
Nope, none of that for you, eh?
Jay Hudes
>Me? Jealous of Lisa? That should be a larf.
>I'm sorry, but Lisa is the worst character in the Simpsons.
>Lisa is heartless and she think's she somthing special cause she has the
>ability to use the brain God gave her. Lisa sucks more than anyone else.
>She's not even funny. At least the other characters make you laugh, Lisa
>makes you puke and want to hit her.
>--
>Helen Brownlee
I agree with you. For a comedy show she isn't very funny. My favorite
character is Homer - Doh!
Jay Hudes
Posted by Jay Hudes
Benjamin Kittleson
In a drama, there is sometimes, comic releif, in a comdey, I think Lisa,
mostly plays the dramatic releif. Though, there are times when she'll
listen in on the phone calls to Moe's. Then she's naughty, and it's
nice to see that she's got a sense of humor. BTW, for the sake of the
subject, Lisa let's Bart make the phone call, that's not selfish...
Ondre Lombard
On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, LARRY WAYNE STOKES wrote:
> Yo Man!!!! Leave Helen alone, I agree with her!!!
>
> Lisa is obnoxious and so are you, FUCK NUTS!!!!!!
You're the one spouting immature fighting words such as "Fuck Nuts,"
and you're calling me the obnoxious one? Let's pretend for a moment that
you've graduated to being a borderline human being. Well, no, because then
that would mean I would actually have to say something to you, cro-magnon.
Ondre
Trinschler
Ondre Lombard wrote:
>You're the one spouting immature fighting words such as "Fuck Nuts,"
>and you're calling me the obnoxious one? Let's pretend for a moment that
>you've graduated to being a borderline human being. Well, no, because then
>that would mean I would actually have to say something to you,
>cro-magnon.
Actually, Ondre, the Cro-Magnons were completely modern human beings, homo
sapiens sapiens. "Neanderthal" would have been a better insult.
Chief Wiggum: "Who's ever heard of these "Neanderthals"?"
Springfield is FICTIONAL
Smithers IS gay
OFF stands for "Our Favorite Family"
Tom Rinschler
"Nonsense! They couldn't hit an elephant at that dist--"
---last words of Major General John Sedgwick, at the Battle of Spotsylvania,
May 9, 1864.
LARRY WAYNE STOKES
Amen, Sister!!!!! DEATH TO LISA SIMPSON!!!!!!
I agree, she is one of the most annoying characters on The Simpsons. I
think she needs her ass whipped by Homer for tearing up that $1,000,000
check, Mr. Burns gave her. She was very stupid for wasting money like
that. She's just an arrogant, egotistical little imp, whom should've been
shot by Mayor
Quimby.
On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Helen Brownlee wrote:
> I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
> She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish. She
> thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
> For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
> untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
> is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
> And when Bart, Milhouse, Nelson and Martin go on a roadtrip, Bart makes
> up the excuse that he is going to a Grammar rodeo. Lisa makes that point
> that surely SHE would have heard of it and be going to it. She was also
> jealous when Bart was sent to a school for the gifted and she wasn't
> allowed to go. She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
> her and humiliated her on live TV.
LARRY WAYNE STOKES
Yo Man!!!! Leave Helen alone, I agree with her!!!
Lisa is obnoxious and so are you, FUCK NUTS!!!!!!
On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Ondre Lombard wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Helen Brownlee wrote:
>
> > Me? Jealous of Lisa? That should be a larf.
> > I'm sorry, but Lisa is the worst character in the Simpsons.
> > Lisa is heartless and she think's she somthing special cause she has the
> > ability to use the brain God gave her. Lisa sucks more than anyone else.
> > She's not even funny. At least the other characters make you laugh, Lisa
> > makes you puke and want to hit her.
>
Henry Ford
Trinschler wrote in message
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>Ondre Lombard wrote:
>
>>You're the one spouting immature fighting words such as "Fuck Nuts,"
>>and you're calling me the obnoxious one? Let's pretend for a moment that
>>you've graduated to being a borderline human being. Well, no, because
then
>>that would mean I would actually have to say something to you,
>>cro-magnon.
>
>Actually, Ondre, the Cro-Magnons were completely modern human beings, homo
>sapiens sapiens. "Neanderthal" would have been a better insult.
>
>Chief Wiggum: "Who's ever heard of these "Neanderthals"?"
Just a question, not a nit-picky flame. Is it Neanderthal or Neandertal, or
are both acceptable?
Henry Ford
Andrew Gill
LARRY WAYNE STOKES wrote in message ...
>Yo Man!!!! Leave Helen alone, I agree with her!!!
>
>Lisa is obnoxious and so are you, FUCK NUTS!!!!!!
Why do the Lisa-haters always seem to use expletives as their contentions?
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Does it explain anything about themselves?
Andrew Gill
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>Henry Ford wrote:
>
>>Just a question, not a nit-picky flame. Is it Neanderthal or Neandertal,
or
>>are both acceptable?
>
>first fossils were found). However, it is acceptable (though not
technically
>correct) to pronounce it either way. I'm not sure whcih is the technically
>correct pronunciation.
If you are an elite anthropologist-type, you spell and pronounce it -tal.
Normal people call it -thal.
Look at the DejaNews from the original airdate.
(Did Wiggum pronounce it differently than Lisa?)
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I just got a 9 on the LIH "How Screwed up are you test."
HF
Andrew Gill wrote in message <6bgnlt$u...@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>...
>If you are an elite anthropologist-type, you spell and pronounce it -tal.
>Normal people call it -thal.
Ever see that Far Side cartoon where the natives are running around the hut
trying to hide the TV & stereo and yelling "anthropologist!"
"anthropologist!" as they approach? It's hilarious.
Aliazzo98
I don't know how to express how much i disagree with you. Lisa is by far the
best character on the show. She is sweet and loving and she always sticks up
for Bart and Homer. So she was a little mean on one episode. Are you a pillar
of virtue? You've never ever done one wrong thing in your life? Have you sat
beside the bed of a dying man and played the saxaphone for him? I don't think
so.
Trinschler
Henry Ford wrote:
>Just a question, not a nit-picky flame. Is it Neanderthal or Neandertal, or
>are both acceptable?
Nope. Only "Neanderthal" is correct (German for "Neander valley" where the
first fossils were found). However, it is acceptable (though not technically
correct) to pronounce it either way. I'm not sure whcih is the technically
correct pronunciation.
Springfield is FICTIONAL
aubepine
My favorite Far Side is with a monster sitting in an armchair watching
tv, complete with curlers, and she's scared out of her mind by the
little boy peeking in the window...hahaha
Matt Stetler
Finally, someone posts somethin bad about lisa, oh wait. I've done that
beore. I don't LIKE her, I wouln't say I HATE her. That whole PC thig
bugs me. Stupid queer chicks always having thier women's rights.
(Kidding. Notice the non-PC lingo)
Doris Ostendorf
LARRY WAYNE STOKES (lws...@mail.odu.edu) wrote:
* Amen, Sister!!!!! DEATH TO LISA SIMPSON!!!!!!
*
* I agree, she is one of the most annoying characters on The Simpsons. I
* think she needs her ass whipped by Homer for tearing up that $1,000,000
* check, Mr. Burns gave her. She was very stupid for wasting money like
* that. She's just an arrogant, egotistical little imp, whom should've been
* shot by Mayor
* Quimby.
And you just said that Homer and Bart should have been dead a long time
ago...why don't you try Ally McBeal or Buffy the Vampire Slayer and see if
that agrees with you more?
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C.G. Jung
LARRY WAYNE STOKES
I meant to be literal about that, that Bart and Homer should've been dead
a long time ago. Look at all the shit they've been through:
Homer: Falls down into Springfield Gorge.
Falls down sliding down a Nuclear Incinerator Pipe.
Gets torn to shreds by Mr. Burns' guard dogs.
Bart: Falls off the side of The Simpson House through a window, as it
tips over!!!!
Homer strangles Bart, as he is knocked through a window.
I mean, either they should've been dead a long time ago, or they should've
been in intensive care (in serious condition) for a long period of time
a long time ago.
LARRY WAYNE STOKES
Hey Ondre, you love Lisa don't you? Well, I am pretty sure that if you
were a character on The Simpsons, she would probably lose her
virginity, then she would probably lose all respect for herself,
because she had SEX!!!! Then she would kill herself, cancelling her out of
the show, never to be seen nor heard again!!!!!
Nelson Muntz- "Ha, ha"
Busyman14
>Hey Ondre, you love Lisa don't you? Well, I am pretty sure that if you
>were a character on The Simpsons, she would probably lose her
>virginity, then she would probably lose all respect for herself,
>because she had SEX!!!! Then she would kill herself, cancelling her out of
>the show, never to be seen nor heard again!!!!!
So, uh...Larry...well...what does that have to do with Ondre being a character
in the Simpsons?
Back to Lurking Busyman14
Andrew Gill
LARRY WAYNE STOKES wrote in message ...
Larry Stokes--trollin' the masses, the trollmeister, makin' trolls.
Perhaps you can try writing when you evolve from your australopithecine
incarnation, Mr. "STOKES." It really is pathetic when people like this make
it to higher education.
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more easily tonight, knowing that you cannot ever be related to this thing.
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"Andrew Gill" <fruadman_tru...@juno.com> writes:
> Trinschler wrote in message
> <19980207034...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>>
>>>Just a question, not a nit-picky flame. Is it Neanderthal or Neandertal,
> or
>>>are both acceptable?
>>
>>Nope. Only "Neanderthal" is correct (German for "Neander valley" where the
>>first fossils were found). However, it is acceptable (though not
> technically
>>correct) to pronounce it either way. I'm not sure whcih is the technically
>>correct pronunciation.
>
> Normal people call it -thal.
...you see, in German, "thal" and "tal" are pronounced the same way. The
traditional German spelling for the word "valley" is "Thal." However, some
time ago (some time this century, I believe), the "h" was removed from
"Thal" and several other words. Of course, none of this has anything to do
with the topic at hand, so I'll just shut up now. Byeeee.
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Ondre Lombard
On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Andrew Gill wrote:
> Perhaps you can try writing when you evolve from your australopithecine
> incarnation, Mr. "STOKES." It really is pathetic when people like this make
> it to higher education.
The funniest part about it is, if this were real life and I were 6'4
and 230 pounds, he probably wouldn't have the nerve to talk like that.
I guess not everyone thinks like me, which is to act the way you would
in real life on the Internet.
Ondre
JEdraw
In article <34DBF6B7...@ns.sympatico.ca>, aubepine
<sam....@ns.sympatico.ca> writes:
Ooh, a Gary Larson calendar! I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
get it. . .
>>>>>>>>>>
Jordan Eisenberg -- JEd...@aol.com
From the SNPP Archives:
Homer: Hey, Miss Doesn't-find-me-attractive-sexually-anymore:
I just tripled my productivity!
-- Homer at his compendious best, "King-Size Homer"
JEdraw
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980206161804.21215F-100000@nassau>, LARRY WAYNE
STOKES <lws...@mail.odu.edu> writes:
>Lisa is obnoxious and so are you, FUCK NUTS!!!!!!
Mmm...fuck nuts
WWA Man
Think about it though, what would the writers of the show fill up Lisa
with? She is a pretty big part in the show, and even though she is all of
those things you talked about, she also makes a couple of shows better.
Think about it.
Tony Xcool...@hotmail.com
LARRY WAYNE STOKES <lws...@mail.odu.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.GSO.3.96.980206160020.21215A-100000@nassau>...
> Amen, Sister!!!!! DEATH TO LISA SIMPSON!!!!!!
>
> I agree, she is one of the most annoying characters on The Simpsons. I
> think she needs her ass whipped by Homer for tearing up that $1,000,000
> check, Mr. Burns gave her. She was very stupid for wasting money like
> that. She's just an arrogant, egotistical little imp, whom should've been
> shot by Mayor
> Quimby.
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Helen Brownlee wrote:
>
> > I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
> > She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish. She
> > thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
> > For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
> > untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
> > is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
> > And when Bart, Milhouse, Nelson and Martin go on a roadtrip, Bart makes
> > up the excuse that he is going to a Grammar rodeo. Lisa makes that
point
> > that surely SHE would have heard of it and be going to it. She was also
> > jealous when Bart was sent to a school for the gifted and she wasn't
> > allowed to go. She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
> > her and humiliated her on live TV.
Paul Buxton
In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.98020...@lombard.dialup.cyberv
erse.com>, Ondre Lombard <olom...@lombard.cyberverse.com> writes
>
> I guess not everyone thinks like me, which is to act the way you would
>in real life on the Internet.
>
after all, you have a life. Please try to understand the plight of this
poor individual, so disappointed with his/her own existance that the
only option is to avoid real people and pretend to be something he/she
is not. The internet is going down fast now that you don't need a brain
to get connected.
--
Paul Buxton
pa...@kampkrusty.demon.co.uk
"No you can't play with it, you won't enjoy it on as many levels as I do"-Frink
Perry Quan
On 6 Feb 1998 23:13:45 GMT, trins...@aol.com (Trinschler) wrote:
>Actually, Ondre, the Cro-Magnons were completely modern human beings, homo
>sapiens sapiens. "Neanderthal" would have been a better insult.
Well, if we're going backwards in the family tree, why not call him an
Australopithicene?
LARRY WAYNE STOKES
Must you bitch!!!!!
Keep on dreaming, Lisa worshippers, bow doen and suck her you know what
like the wuss you are!!!!
Death to Lisa!!!!!!
If you were 6'4" and 230lbs., I am pretty sure you would better things to
do other than listening to me, Lisa Lover!!!
On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Ondre Lombard wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Andrew Gill wrote:
>
> > Perhaps you can try writing when you evolve from your australopithecine
> > incarnation, Mr. "STOKES." It really is pathetic when people like this make
> > it to higher education.
>
> The funniest part about it is, if this were real life and I were 6'4
> and 230 pounds, he probably wouldn't have the nerve to talk like that.
>
> I guess not everyone thinks like me, which is to act the way you would
> in real life on the Internet.
>
> Ondre
>
>
>
LARRY WAYNE STOKES
Well, at least I am there, where the hell are you at, loser?
On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Andrew Gill wrote:
> LARRY WAYNE STOKES wrote in message ...
> [puerile blather SNIPped]
>
> Larry Stokes--trollin' the masses, the trollmeister, makin' trolls.
>
> Perhaps you can try writing when you evolve from your australopithecine
> incarnation, Mr. "STOKES." It really is pathetic when people like this make
> it to higher education.
>
Paul Tomko
In article <6bgj36$9...@examiner.concentric.net>,
Henry Ford <hf...@ibm.net> wrote:
>
>Just a question, not a nit-picky flame. Is it Neanderthal or Neandertal, or
>are both acceptable?
I read somewhere that there is definitely only one acceptable way to spell
it. Unfortunately, the proper way to spell it seems to differ depending
upon which scientific group you are in.
Sorta like saying there is definitely only one way to get to heaven, but
there are millions of different groups whose way to get to heaven is
different.
In short, neither Neanderthal nor Neandertal are acceptable, depending on
whom you are talking to.
Paul
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Andrew Gill
Perry Quan wrote in message <350b953c...@news.istar.ca>...
>
>Well, if we're going backwards in the family tree, why not call him an
>Australopithicene?
Actually, Homo Sapiens is not related to Australopithecus xxxx.
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Ward Donald Griffiths III
Paul Tomko wrote:
>
> In article <6bgj36$9...@examiner.concentric.net>,
> Henry Ford <hf...@ibm.net> wrote:
> >
> >Just a question, not a nit-picky flame. Is it Neanderthal or Neandertal, or
> >are both acceptable?
>
> I read somewhere that there is definitely only one acceptable way to spell
> it. Unfortunately, the proper way to spell it seems to differ depending
> upon which scientific group you are in.
>
> Sorta like saying there is definitely only one way to get to heaven, but
> there are millions of different groups whose way to get to heaven is
> different.
>
> In short, neither Neanderthal nor Neandertal are acceptable, depending on
> whom you are talking to.
The proper pronunciation, from the German, has always been
"Neandertal". "Neanderthal", the German spelling which has
always caused English-speakers to mispronounce it, has now
been officially changed (in Germany) to "Neandertal".
--
Ward Griffiths
Dylan: How many years must some people exist,
before they're allowed to be free?
WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed",
they'll never be free.
Gordon Fountain
>My favorite Far Side is with a monster sitting in an armchair watching
>tv, complete with curlers, and she's scared out of her mind by the
>little boy peeking in the window...hahaha
I love the one with the big horse parlaiment, with all the horses
looking stunned and one horse looking around. The caption under it:
"For the first time in as long as anyone could remember, someone voted
yay"
and then there's the classic one wit the school of the gifted. The kid
going in is trying to push the doo and it says pull on it :)
charlie keenan
I think that Lisa is a very well adjusted child who has a lot to offer
the world. Just because her parents are so f***** up it does not mean
she should be classed as them.
Marisa Michaels
Lisa is a funny foil to Bart and Homer's antics. She's a nice dose of
reality, which sometimes can be harsh. If you want colorless characters or
plain slapstick, watch something off the Cartoon Network.
"Mmmmm....snouts"---Homer
John Panek
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venu...@leekhigh.rmplc.co.uk
Leek High School
I think that "lisa loud mouth" should go for a little swim . With the
sharks . but Yeardley Smith (i think that's her name ) should still be
kept on but as another character
VINCENT 15
That check Lisa ripped up, was for 12million dollars!!! What kind of a jerk
would do such a stupid thing!
MutantMan
a cartoony jerk
--
I guess the average T.V. viewer is that dumb
I make no exceptions
All hail conan our dark lord and master
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Solon Boomer-Jenks
charlie keenan wrote:
> On 9 Feb 1998 02:48:37 GMT, "WWA Man" <man...@wwa.com> wrote:
>
> >Think about it though, what would the writers of the show fill up Lisa
> >with? She is a pretty big part in the show, and even though she is all of
> >those things you talked about, she also makes a couple of shows better.
> >Think about it.
> >
> >Tony Xcool...@hotmail.com
> >
Why did you bring this thread back?
> >LARRY WAYNE STOKES <lws...@mail.odu.edu> wrote in article
>
I had almost forgot about him, why did you have to do this?
Solon
black rose witch
ericj...@gmail.com
> I think that Lisa has to be the worst character in the show.
> She is self-centered, jealous, obnoxious not to mention selfish. She
> thinks that she is above everyone else because she's intelligent.
> For example, in "Dog of Death" where SLH is in need of an operation to
> untwist his stomach, Marge says that to be able to afford it the family
> is going to have to give things up. Lisa is the only one to complain.
> And when Bart, Milhouse, Nelson and Martin go on a roadtrip, Bart makes
> up the excuse that he is going to a Grammar rodeo. Lisa makes that point
> that surely SHE would have heard of it and be going to it. She was also
> jealous when Bart was sent to a school for the gifted and she wasn't
> allowed to go. She was extremly cruel to Ralph when he had a crush on
> her and humiliated her on live TV.
> I think that she should be removed from the show. I hate Lisa!
> --
> Helen Brownlee
weary flake
suggested that Lisa is a judeo-bolshevist.
Vidcapper
>
> I think it was discussed on this newsgroup before and it was
> suggested that Lisa is a judeo-bolshevist.
>
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