A Streetcar Named Marge
Steve Stelter
Well, what we had here tonight was, IMHO, a fairly mediocre episode.
Its bad points were cancelled out by its good points (and vice versa).
Obviously, the episode drew much of its humor from "A Streetcar
Named Desire," and I would imagine that those viewers who were familiar
with the play (or film) probably got a lot more out of this episode than
those of us who aren't. As it is, I probably missed out on a lot of
in-jokes and references.
Thumbs up to the couch sequence, and to the Maggie subplot
(especially the scene with her wearing Ned's glasses), and to Jon Lovitz
in both his roles, and to having Apu and Chief Wiggum sing.
Thumbs down to the plot itself (why does the show seem to have such
a poor track record with episodes based on Marge and Homer's marital
problems?) and to the absence of Burns and Smithers.
--Steve Stelter
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Jacob Solomon Weinstein
>
>
> Well, what we had here tonight was, IMHO, a fairly mediocre episode.
>Its bad points were cancelled out by its good points (and vice versa).
Whoa! I thought this was, by far, one of the funniest episodes I've
seen. And, I might note, so did the several folks I was watching it
with.
> Obviously, the episode drew much of its humor from "A Streetcar
>Named Desire," and I would imagine that those viewers who were familiar
>with the play (or film) probably got a lot more out of this episode than
>those of us who aren't. As it is, I probably missed out on a lot of
>in-jokes and references.
This is undoubtably true. In general, actually, the humor was pretty
in-jokey - the Ayn Rand Day Care Center, the shot of Alfred Hitchcock
walking his dog, and, of course, all the "Streetcar Named Desire" jokes.
Since I got most of the in-jokes, though, I loved every minute of the episode.
The "Kindness of Strangers" number was on of the funniest, sharpest pieces of
satire I've seen on TV.
J.D. Baldwin
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Ed A. Mills
tiresome, don't you think? The episodes are starting to seem like those
silly books with all of the hidden pictures: Find a "banana, turtle, spoon,
potato (ha), blah blah blah.. "A Streetcar Named Marge" was Like: Find a
scene from "The Birds, The Great Escape, A famous play, blah blah.. "
Cheap laughs from what used to be interesting storylines. Exactly WHAT was
tonight's storyline? Marge is in a play, Homer doesn't want her to be at
first, but in the end decides it's ok. Uh huh. Hardly the spellbinding tales
that Timmy down a well or a 3-eyed fish offered us.
Sorry, but from where I sit, things have changed. It used to be about The
Simpsons MAN!
Ed
Raymond L. Gilbert
>with the play (or film) probably got a lot more out of this episode than
>those of us who aren't. As it is, I probably missed out on a lot of
>in-jokes and references.
Yup. I second that one. I've never seen the original play or film
either. I liked the episode as a whole, but I would say it was one of
the poorer Simpsons episodes I've seen. There weren't any bad parts of
the show; its just that there weren't many moments that had me rolling
on the floor as usual. One major exception was the part where Maggie
successfully retrived all the kids sukers. That's one bright girl! A
possible reference to all those "Mission Impossible" type shows...
Also, when Marge is on the phone to Homer before she found out she got the
part, how come *he* is telling *her* what to get at the store?
Blackboard:
My name is not Dr. Death
My name is not Dr. De at cutoff
Couch:
They all sit down, after which the couch turns into a monster and eats
them up.
Other things I liked:
The Nintendo Game-Boy bowling game
The Miss America Girl Pageant
Miss Montana--"a beaut from Butte"
Niss South Carolina--"nothing could be finer"
Miss Delaware--"gee... uh... good for her!"
Bart and Lisa playing "footsie" on the couch
the caligraphy class--"Mr Takahashi is a lunatic"
peanut butter brownies--"Would anyone else like a bite of banality?"
the way Maggie "summoned" the other kids on her mission
Homer's butt crack showing when he reaches down for change
Homer--"Oh no! My pudding is trapped forever!"
Maggie's eyes on Marge when she has her "descent into madness"
AYN RAND is an anagram for ANY DARN
SCHOOL ================> SCHOOL
FOR TOTS FOR TOTS
I kept this a little bit shorter after the complaints I received about
my quick and slightly inaccurate comments from last week.... I in no way
guarantee the accuracy of any information.
BTW, did anyone catch David Silverman, Executive Producer of the
Simpsons when he came here to Bloomington to talk to us at IU tonight? I
missed it unfortunataly--does anyone know what neat stuff he had to
say?
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Bucky Whaley
jac...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein) says:
> [...] In general, actually, the humor was pretty
>in-jokey - the Ayn Rand Day Care Center, the shot of Alfred Hitchcock
>walking his dog, and, of course, all the "Streetcar Named Desire" jokes.
>Since I got most of the in-jokes, though, I loved every minute of the episode.
>The "Kindness of Strangers" number was on of the funniest, sharpest pieces of
>satire I've seen on TV.
I loved it too. The whole idea of doing Streetcar as a musical in the
first place cracks me up. And that closing number was completely loony.
The opening of the Miss American Girl pageant was hysterical, too. The
song the contestants were singing was Janis Iain's (sp?) "At Seventeen,"
one of the most painfully confessional hymns to female teen-aged angst
ever recorded. Fortunately, the pageant's script only called for the
first two lines (um, I think they're "I learned the truth at seventeen /
That life belongs to beauty queens..."), thus allowing the jolly
interpretation we heard from the contestants. Wish I could remember
the next few lines. I just recall that the song's POV is that of an
utterly miserable, alienated adolescent.
--
Bucky Whaley
bw...@cleveland.freenet.edu
David Ranney
>"A is A." I thought I was gonna die.
Was that some sort of Ayn Rand in-joke?
I didn't get it.
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Adrian Jones
>
> Other things I liked:
> The Nintendo Game-Boy bowling game
> The Miss America Girl Pageant
> Miss Montana--"a beaut from Butte"
> Niss South Carolina--"nothing could be finer"
> Miss Delaware--"gee... uh... good for her!"
was wearing an oil rig with oil spouting from the top.
> AYN RAND is an anagram for ANY DARN
> SCHOOL ================> SCHOOL
> FOR TOTS FOR TOTS
>
Isn't Ayn Rand an author or philospher or something like that. That's
what I thought that the reference was to.
William Sadler
> AYN RAND is an anagram for ANY DARN
> SCHOOL ================> SCHOOL
> FOR TOTS FOR TOTS
I wouldn't make a lot out of this. Ayn Rand was, of course, a real
person.
>BTW, did anyone catch David Silverman, Executive Producer of the
>Simpsons when he came here to Bloomington to talk to us at IU tonight? I
>missed it unfortunataly--does anyone know what neat stuff he had to
>say?
Yesterday's Horrible-Terrible reports on page C1 that Silverman said
several things and showed some previews from upcoming episodes. Some
spoilers are:
Bart will have a girlfriend, but they will have an age difference problem
(he is 10 and she is 15).
There will be an episode called "Homer the Heretic" in which Homer stops
going to church and dreams that God gives him permission to form his
own relegion, The Divine Church of Homerism.
Principal Skinner's mental health will deteriorate steadily until he
starts having Vietnam flashbacks regularly.
Will
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John J. Wood
at the candy machine, last night's episode was boringly mundane. Granted,
those who enjoy Streetcar would have enjoyed it more, but the third
segment was too...*cheesy*. For the second straight week in a row,
no Burns, Smithers, Itchy & Scratchy, etc., and the plot was unexceptionally
thin. A yawner!
Does anyone think today's Simpsons has lost its edge? There's such
a difference between today and the first season. The characters each
had something I missed in everyone (except Maggie) last night: that
*edge*.
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James Willer
>These "let's mimic a popular movie" themes in The Simpsons are growing a bit
>tiresome, don't you think? The episodes are starting to seem like those
>silly books with all of the hidden pictures: Find a "banana, turtle, spoon,
>potato (ha), blah blah blah.. "A Streetcar Named Marge" was Like: Find a
>scene from "The Birds, The Great Escape, A famous play, blah blah.. "
>Cheap laughs from what used to be interesting storylines. Exactly WHAT was
>tonight's storyline? Marge is in a play, Homer doesn't want her to be at
>first, but in the end decides it's ok. Uh huh. Hardly the spellbinding tales
>that Timmy down a well or a 3-eyed fish offered us.
You're absolutely right! That plot is much simpler than
"the Simpsons go camping" and "Marge tries to censor Itchy &
Scratchy and then decides they're ok"!! I-)
In the immortal words of Patty (or was it Selma) "Don't be stupid!!"
Some of the *best* episodes (and I *do* include 8F18) can be summed
up in three sentences or less.
All those subtle references/jokes that you don't catch the
first time are part of why the show is fun to watch *over* and
*over*. "God-bless 'em!"(ned flanders)
James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
anyone at all}
John R. Donald
rewound the tape to watch it again. I agree, references for their own
sake add nothing to the show, like a meaningless guest appearance (Sting,
Magic Johnson). However when a guest voice is incorporated into the plot
well, and the references are not just references but are actually satire,
then this device works - it wasnt funny because it was a reference to Ayn
Rand, it was funny because it was an Ayn Rand Day Care Center - it wasn't
funny because Marge was in 'Streetcar', it was funny because it was a
musical version. As far as the plot goes - it was great - back to the basics,
back to simple family issues, which turn out to be funnier than plots
that are too contrived.
One more thing - i thought the animation was better. seemed more in the
old style - less 'Hanna Barberaish', more rubbery faces, etc.
I give it an A.
-jd
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J.D. Baldwin
In article <1992Oct2.0...@informix.com> dra...@vern.informix
(David Ranney) writes (quoting me):
>"A is A." I thought I was gonna die.
Perhaps I'm showing my own density here but...
Was that some sort of Ayn Rand in-joke?
I didn't get it.
Yes, Ayn Rand was a "philosopher" who claimed that a complex system of
epistemology, aesthetics, ethics, metaphysics and politics could be
derived from the simple, "self-evident" proposition that A == A. Her
philosophical system is widely regarded as "right-wing," whatever that
means.
I don't personally have a problem with accepting "A == A" as
axiomatic, but I, personally, find the next few steps (near-axiomatic)
of her derivations are a little thin. As a matter of personal
philosophy (just to disclose my personal bias on this), I don't
disagree with most of her major conclusions and I find that most
criticisms of her philosophy are shallow and miss the point entirely.
I'm sure that, in the next few days, I will have ample opportunity to
point out the flaws in such criticisms, disclaiming all the while any
deep admiration for Rand or her philosophical work.
I used "philosopher" in quotes above, not out of contempt for Rand--
quite the contrary, I regard her as worthy of study for a number of
reasons, not the least of which is the tremendous influence her books
have had over such a large number of people. I just don't consider
her main contribution to society to be her "Objectivist" philosophy,
with the exception of the extolling of strong individualism in an age
of collectivism. Now, her social criticism, on the other hand, ranges
from perceptive to downright brilliant, and she had a real knack for
cutting through the bullshit on a lot of issues. Anyone who doubts
this is referred to her savage review (today it would be called a
"deconstruction") of B.F. Skinner's opus of mental masturbation,
"Beyond Freedom and Dignity."
ObSimpsons: No one has noted yet the torn-up program Homer played with
at the performance. (Not at this site, anyway.) This is a direct
"Citizen Kane" reference, but I can't claim credit for spotting it on
my own: I was alerted to it by the Tom Shales review I posted here
recently.
Scott Mathew Glazer
>a difference between today and the first season. The characters each
>had something I missed in everyone (except Maggie) last night: that
>*edge*.
I thought A Streetcar Named Marge was one of the best Simpsons ever,
except for
a) Second-rate animation, and
b) A lousy, too-quick ending.
Problem (a) I can live with and adjust to, I guess...Seeing the folks
of Springfield move about in a herky-jerky, first-season manner hurts
a little, though.
Problem (b) is nothing new in the Simpsons. Frankly, I'm used to it.
But this episode had so much:
-The Beauty Pageant ("Live from beautiful Laughlin, Nevada!")
-The whole day-care center thing
-The play was incredible! I've never seen A Streetcar Named Desire, it
didn't matter that much! Cheesy lyrics, done moderately well, in
dramatic situations like "You can always depend...on the kindness
of strangers!...A stranger's just a friend you haven't met!!!!"...
Had me rolling on the floor.
I saw the episode twice last night and thought it was even funnier
the second time.
--Scott G
Steve Stelter
>"A is A." I thought I was gonna die.
Could somebody explain this joke to me, please?
--Steve Stelter
sjs2...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Frank J Sereno
All that I would like to add is a phrase my baseball coach used to scream
at me during any game: 'GOOD EYE...GOOD EYE'
Nice job with the `Citizen Kane~!!
Steve Stelter
>Strictly Opinion: With the exceptions of the Maggie subplots, and Homer
>at the candy machine, last night's episode was boringly mundane. Granted,
>those who enjoy Streetcar would have enjoyed it more, but the third
>segment was too...*cheesy*. For the second straight week in a row,
>no Burns, Smithers, Itchy & Scratchy, etc., and the plot was unexceptionally
>thin. A yawner!
>Does anyone think today's Simpsons has lost its edge? There's such
>a difference between today and the first season. The characters each
>had something I missed in everyone (except Maggie) last night: that
>*edge*.
Although I agree 100% with your analysis of last night's episode, I don't
think that there's any evidence that the show in general has gone downhill.
In fact, I think the show gets better with each passing season--the characters
(particularly Homer and Burns) have finally found their voices, the animation
is smoother, the humor is more subtle and more prevalent, and the plots in
general are a lot less depressing.
There were a lot of scenes in the first season episodes that were so heavy-
handed and depressing that they weren't even funny. I'm thinking particularly
of Homer's suicide attempt in "Homer's Odyssey." I think the writers of the
show, with years of experience under their belt, could probably redo many of
the first season episodes and improve them a hundredfold.
--Steve Stelter
sjs2...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Max Ziff
|jac...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein) says:
| ...
|>satire I've seen on TV.
|
|I loved it too. The whole idea of doing Streetcar as a musical in the
|first place cracks me up. And that closing number was completely loony.
I was disappointed by this episode. "Oh, Streetcar" _was_ a funny
idea, but the execution seemed to lack real comedic inspiration. I
think we Simpsons fans could supply some humor that was really just
missing -- for us, the idea of Apu and Chief Wiggum in a musical was a
kick. But in retrospect, I got more pleasure in anticipating this
episode than in watching it...
Does anyone remember the "Get a Life" episode in which Chris appears
in a local amateur theatrical production called something like "Zoo
Animals on Wheels"? It was a wonderful parody of Andrew Lloyd Weber
shows like "Cats" and "Starlight Express" etc. Now _that_ was sharp
satire as well as completely loony. "Oh, Streetcar" was loony, but it
sadly lacked the satiric edge the really great Simpsons episode have.
--
Donald Ziff (Max) zi...@cs.uchicago.edu
"Sin's most sinister symbol.
Git gone -- The very sight of you gives me irkage." -- Offissa Pupp
Winnipg
truly fair but I did not like it. In fact it was 'mmmm boring'. Somebody
might even call it the worst Simpson's episode ever. I said 'somebody',
which is not necessarily me! I suppose that if I had seen A.S.N.D. then
perhaps I would have found it amusing.
Funny bits: Maggie eating the Bart doll, Great Escape ref.
After what Bart called one the judges, the world may have gotten just
a little bit scarier! With what he said in this episode and with what
one of the Kamp Krusty goons said in last weeks episode it looks like
language this season is anything goes.
Is there anyone out there who also gets rec.arts.startrek? If so reply by
mail.
Chuck Carroll
>This is undoubtably true. In general, actually, the humor was pretty
>in-jokey - the Ayn Rand Day Care Center, the shot of Alfred Hitchcock
>walking his dog, and, of course, all the "Streetcar Named Desire" jokes.
>Since I got most of the in-jokes, though, I loved every minute of the episode.
>The "Kindness of Strangers" number was on of the funniest, sharpest pieces of
>satire I've seen on TV.
AAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Sorry. It's just that I can *NEVER* catch Hitchcock's cameos in
his movies unless someone tells me where to look in advance. And
even then I sometimes miss it. I guess I'll just chalk this down to
one more Hitchcock cameo missed. :-/
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"Counselor Troi, do you sense anything from this 'Stimpy?'"
"I sense extreme stupidity...wait, there's something else...
I feel...Happy Happy Happy, Joy Joy Joy!"
J.D. Baldwin
>at the candy machine, last night's episode was boringly mundane. Granted,
>those who enjoy Streetcar would have enjoyed it more, but the third
>segment was too...*cheesy*. For the second straight week in a row,
>no Burns, Smithers, Itchy & Scratchy, etc., and the plot was unexceptionally
>thin. A yawner!
I don't agree with your assessment of this particular episode (though
it's not in the pantheon of the greats), but:
>Does anyone think today's Simpsons has lost its edge? There's such
>a difference between today and the first season. The characters each
>had something I missed in everyone (except Maggie) last night: that
>*edge*.
I have to agree here. I think back to the first season, and episodes
like the brilliant (and underrated) "Bart the General," which made a
lot of clever movie/TV references and yet were biting satire on their
own, even considered apart from the media references. They *did* have
more "edge" as you put it. Look at all the people who considered the
"catapulted rabbit" to be the single finest Simpsons moment (judging
from the recent thread on the subject). It just doesn't get that good
lately.
The peaks are still just as high--"Itchy and Scratchy and Marge" and
"Flaming Moe's" attest to that--but the general level of the humor was
higher and more trenchant back then.
Also, in the early days there were NO weak spots. I have a feeling
that filler like "Colonel Homer" and "The Otto Show" would have been
abandoned at the storyboard stage in the first season. Now, they get
produced.
I used to worry that, with the faddish nature of the popularity that
"The Simpsons" enjoyed, the death blow to the series would come from a
preoccupation with "cute" celebrity guest stars. As it turns out,
some of those are the very episodes (Aerosmith, Michael Jackson,
Dustin Hoffman) that have become immortal (and some have become junk,
like the ones I mentioned above). At the same time, I worried that
they would lighten up on the in-jokes and media/cultural references
that gave the show its satirical flavor. It turns out my fears were
misplaced in both areas.
Take away the cultural references from "Simpsons Roasting On An Open
Fire" or "Bart the General" and you still have a lot of damned funny
stuff. Take them away from last night's (still highly enjoyable) "A
Streetcar Named Marge" and you have about one minute of film, mostly
scene transitions (though Homer at the candy machine stands out as a
notable exception).
All that said, "The Simpsons" still hasn't lost its "edge" as
tragically as everybody's favorite cat-and-mouse team once did! A
weak, watered-down, too-clever-by-half Simpsons is still in the top 3%
of comedic material on American TV. They'll have to lose a lot more
"edge" before I stop going WAY out of my way to watch or tape every
Thursday.
John R. Donald
the flintstones. everyone is happy, everything is tidy. all we need now
is the great gazoo.
you are both wrong. 'streetcar' was more like a first season episode than
any i have seen in a long time, and that is why it was great. it had more
'edge' than the entire second season.
Frank J Sereno
In article <YORK.92O...@oakland-hills.lucid.com>, yo...@oakland-hills.lucid.com (Bill York) writes:
>In article <BvH7t...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> p...@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>
> Also, when Marge is on the phone to Homer before she found out she got the
> part, how come *he* is telling *her* what to get at the store?
>
>only during this Stella-like domestic degradation that the director
>could truly spot Marge's Blanche-like qualities?
>
>"... A bucket of chicken ... extra skin ..."
Don't forget to mention the rolls......
Bill York
Also, when Marge is on the phone to Homer before she found out she got the
part, how come *he* is telling *her* what to get at the store?
This was just by way of ephasizing her oppressed condition. It was
Ed
I can't beleive so many people didn't like this episode. I thought it was
great. The reference to The Birds was hilarious topped off by an
appearance by Hitchcock himself. I thought I was going to die laughing.
And the music from The Great Escape, the was an excellent change from all
the movies that use Mission Impossible. And I thought the funniest gag was
in the very beginning: While the family was watcing the beauty pagent,
Maggie started beating out a song from the Nutcracker on her xylophone and
Homer told her to be quiet! You gotta love it.
Ed Hirsch
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In article <1aglua...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bw...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Bucky Whaley) writes:
>
>I loved it too. The whole idea of doing Streetcar as a musical in the
>first place cracks me up. And that closing number was completely loony.
>
>song the contestants were singing was Janis Iain's (sp?) "At Seventeen,"
>one of the most painfully confessional hymns to female teen-aged angst
>ever recorded. Fortunately, the pageant's script only called for the
>first two lines (um, I think they're "I learned the truth at seventeen /
>That life belongs to beauty queens..."), thus allowing the jolly
>interpretation we heard from the contestants. Wish I could remember
>the next few lines. I just recall that the song's POV is that of an
>utterly miserable, alienated adolescent.
and tried to make it sound cheery (isn't that what beauty pageants are
all about? Superficial rosiness?)
I also thought the irony of a bunch of beauty queens singing those
particular lines was... well, IRONIC.
As for the musical: I though it was pretty funny. I suppose I was in
a very lucky position, though: "A Streetcar Named Desire" was playing
(with "The Wild One") at a local theater the preceeding night.
The opening number about New Orleans reminded me, for some reason, of
"Sweeny Todd" ("There's No Place Like London".)
And I think the title "Oh Streetcar!" was also a joking reference to
"Oh Calcutta!"
The episode was pretty funny -- but there were some misses. Why
didn't Lisa make any disparaging comments on the shameless exploitation of
beauty pageants?
And why didn't Barney audition for the part of Stanley? ("Stella!
<belch!>")
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John J. Wood
>you are both wrong. 'streetcar' was more like a first season episode than
>any i have seen in a long time, and that is why it was great. it had more
>'edge' than the entire second season.
IF that was really the case, then the second season would have been a
perfect cure for imsomnia. Even after watching the episode again...lame!
Watch any of the first season episodes, then stack the Streetcar against
them. No contest....
John R. Donald
>John Donald writes...
>>you are both wrong. 'streetcar' was more like a first season episode than
>>any i have seen in a long time, and that is why it was great. it had more
>>'edge' than the entire second season.
>
>IF that was really the case, then the second season would have been a
>perfect cure for imsomnia. Even after watching the episode again...lame!
>
>Watch any of the first season episodes, then stack the Streetcar against
>them. No contest....
>
opinion. the only real issue I have about poor reviews of 'streetcar'
are the people who complain that there was no 'itchy and scratchy', no
burns, no smithers.
the day simpsons starts relying on a formula is the day i stop watching it.
i dont want every episode to have my favorite characters. itchy and scratchy
should be a treat, not a staple.