Who Shot Mr. Burns
Al Denton
different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie?
Peace out,
Al
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Chris Palm
<< During that whole "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" fiasco, it seemed that everybody had
a
different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie? >>
I HAD no suspect, actually. I KNEW it wouldn't be any of the "official" ones,
but I had no idea who else would have done it.
-=Krispy
"Homer no function beer well without." -- Homer Simpsons (dur)
To respond, break the pact.
ChaiTheDog
that it was a two-parter since I missed the first five minutes of it. It was
only after I saw part one a few weeks later that I realized that WSMB was a
two-parter.
Adam W. Long
>a
>different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
>thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie?
I have a friend who claims he thought it was Maggie, but he didn't really come
forth with it until after the solution was aired.
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Kieran Murphy
because everyone had a gun apart from him, he stood up at the town meeting
waving a knife. When I saw Mr. Burns fall on the sundial I noticed he had
no gun on him, therefore I reasoned that whoever shot hit, didn't have their
own gun, and used his gun. So I assumed Sideshow Mel.
Even though he had no motive.
Kieran Murphy
Al Denton <papac...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> During that whole "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" fiasco, it seemed that everybody
had a
> different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
> thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie?
>
>
Dennis Vaughn
>
> During that whole "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" fiasco, it seemed that everybody had a
> different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
> thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie?
>
> Peace out,
> Al
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> "Don't make me run! I'm full of chocolate!!
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You know I would have been right about who shot Mr. Burns if they used
the alternate ending instead (as seen in 138th spectacular episode)
Bill McNeal
>a
>different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
>thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie?
I knew it was Maggie (and from that point on I've been the world's greatest
detective). I watched the tape a few times over, made a mental model of the
City Hall block over time. I watched carefully how many corners Burns turned
during his stirring in his own crapulence and realized he was shot in the
parking lot. I remembered scenes of Burns having physical stuggle even with a
paper cup (episode whatever), so it would be no surprise to see that it was
Maggie he was fighting with. The "who has the guts to stop me" segment showed
without a doubt that Maggie was more mad than anyone at him, and she even seems
to say "I'll shoot him" (with pacifier). I noticed the lolly pop in her hand
but failed to see the connection between that and the "sweet tooth" segment..
Also, probably the biggest factor was the fact that nothing on The Simpsons had
ever changed, and no adult (save Smithers) could keep on going through the
series after shooting Burns..
- An XPeeple Production -
"It was cheap. But I'm sure that as soon as we know all the assorted details,
this will go down as the classiest booty call on record."-Bill McNeal
"Frankly, I would have expected better from Jimmy the Scumbag."-Chief Wiggum
Dave Hall
> From: nh...@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Gary Chase 732-5133)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: The Maggie Theory: A summary
Date: 2 Jun 1995 18:51:13 GMT
Message-ID: <3qnmj1$k...@netope.harvard.edu>
While nothing is certain, it seems that Maggie has become the
"prime suspect" of many of the posters to ATS. The following
is a summary of clues/evidence/stuff....
- Burns speaks to the "attacker" as if he is talking to a
child or animal.
- Maggie was left alone in the car with the door open and
not buckled into her car seat.
- She was last seen in the car holding a large sucker. Burns
had earlier discussed wanting to steal candy from a baby.
- All of Burns comments to his "attacker" are consistant with the
Maggie theory. Specifically: He struggles with that person over
some object, most likely the sucker. Only a baby (or a dog) would
allow a "struggle" since any other person would quickly over-power
the notoriously weak Burns. The attacker is someone Burns knows; he
knows Maggie. The attacker doesn't speak; Maggie never speaks.
Burns says, "Get your HANDS off me" thus eliminating the Santas
Little Helper theory.
- Burns wound only went through his shirt not his jacket, suggesting
he was leaning forward, with his Jacket open, when shot.
- Only Maggie (and an unidentified black male in the back:Carl maybe?)
doesn't avert her eyes when Burns says "Who will stand up to me?"
- Maggie fits the MS or WS sundial "clue".
Thats about it. Please add other clues that I have missed.
P.S. I am still intrigued by the "Homer disguised as Krusty" theory.
You gotta admit, the "Krusty" at the end is dressed differently
and makes a Homer-like expression when everyone is looking at each
other suspiciously. ??
-- 8<----
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-- Homer Simpson
Dean Humphries
>detective). I watched the tape a few times over, made a mental model of the
>City Hall block over time. I watched carefully how many corners Burns turned
>during his stirring in his own crapulence and realized he was shot in the
>parking lot. I remembered scenes of Burns having physical stuggle even with a
>paper cup (episode whatever), so it would be no surprise to see that it was
>Maggie he was fighting with. The "who has the guts to stop me" segment showed
>without a doubt that Maggie was more mad than anyone at him, and she even
>seems
>to say "I'll shoot him" (with pacifier). I noticed the lolly pop in her hand
>but failed to see the connection between that and the "sweet tooth" segment..
There's a job waiting for you over at the Los Angeles DA's office.
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<mrkiera...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I thought it was Sideshow Mel. How wrong I was. I thought it was him,
>because everyone had a gun apart from him, he stood up at the town meeting
>waving a knife. When I saw Mr. Burns fall on the sundial I noticed he had
>no gun on him, therefore I reasoned that whoever shot hit, didn't have their
>own gun, and used his gun. So I assumed Sideshow Mel.
>
>Even though he had no motive.
>
Me too. The "SM" initials fit with the sundial clue. Plus, I figured
it would be a funny theme if another of Krusty's "Sideshow" sidekicks
went crazy and committed crimes like "Sideshow Bob". He also would
have been a pretty easy character to lose and put in jail because
he's hardly on "The Simpsons" anyway. They could have introduced
"Sideshow Jerry" or something as a replacement, and then had Mel come
back and team up with Bob for a big revenge crime later. So even
though he wouldn't have had much of a motive besides going nuts from
Krusty's abuse, I was kind of hoping it was Mel. I think it would
have been better, but what can you do?
>Al Denton <papac...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:19990921154719...@ng-cq1.aol.com...
>> During that whole "Who Shot Mr. Burns?" fiasco, it seemed that everybody
>had a
>> different suspect that they were SURE did it. I was wondering who you all
>> thought shot Mr. Burns. Did anyone actually suspect maggie?
>>
>>
>> Peace out,
>> Al
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>> "Don't make me run! I'm full of chocolate!!
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>
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> the alternate ending instead (as seen in 138th spectacular episode)
"But for that ending to work, you'd have to ignore all the simpson DNA
evidence... And that would be downright nutty!" ;)
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Smithers.
Al Denton wrote in message <19990921154719...@ng-cq1.aol.com>...
REO
>No. Maggie was actually the last one I thought of. I was leaning towards
>Smithers.
>
As with most "whodunnits," (and episodes of Scooby-Doo!) it's hardly ever
the most obvious suspect who's done the dirty deed. I never believed it was
Smithers because the writers had gone to great lengths to make us think it
WAS him.
Still, I suppose it would've made more sense if Smithers had shot Mr. Burns
instead of Maggie doing it. [You know what they say: "You always hurt the
one you love!!"]
Does anyone else remember that scene in a recent season's ep. where OFF are
talking and the subject of Burns' shooting comes up? Homer says something
about Mr. Smithers having shot Mr. Burns and is immediately corrected by
Marge who reminds him it was Maggie. Remember that? Lisa turns and says
something along the lines of it being far more plausible if Smithers HAD
been the culprit.
Do you think this was a little "in joke" included in the script for the
enjoyment of the writers? Were they unhappy with the conclusion to the "Who
Shot" saga, too?
REO (U.K.)
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Al Denton
Marge- I don't want a gun in my house. Remember when Maggie shot Mr. Burns?
Homer-really? I thought Mr. Smithers did it.
Lisa- That would've made a lot more sense. . .
>Does anyone else remember that scene in a recent season's ep. where OFF are
>talking and the subject of Burns' shooting comes up? Homer says something
>about Mr. Smithers having shot Mr. Burns and is immediately corrected by
>Marge who reminds him it was Maggie. Remember that? Lisa turns and says
>something along the lines of it being far more plausible if Smithers HAD
>been the culprit.
>
>Do you think this was a little "in joke" included in the script for the
>enjoyment of the writers?
sorta, i guess.
Were they unhappy with the conclusion to the "Who
>Shot" saga, too?
I think they liked to poke fun at the fact that there was such a huge fuss
about this whole thing. . . then the baby did it.
TheAbman
>it would be a funny theme if another of Krusty's "Sideshow" sidekicks
>went crazy and committed crimes like "Sideshow Bob". He also would
>have been a pretty easy character to lose and put in jail because
>he's hardly on "The Simpsons" anyway. They could have introduced
>"Sideshow Jerry" or something as a replacement, and then had Mel come
>back and team up with Bob for a big revenge crime later. So even
>though he wouldn't have had much of a motive besides going nuts from
>Krusty's abuse, I was kind of hoping it was Mel. I think it would
>have been better, but what can you do?
Wow, that's EXACTLY what I was hoping for also, before I saw part 2. I don't
know why, but i also really was betting that it was Grampa.
--theabman
Curtis Gibby
> >No. Maggie was actually the last one I thought of. I was leaning
towards
> >Smithers.
Yeah, Smingers did it! Case closed!
--
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Kieran Murphy
the person that I thought shot Mr. Burns, as the person who shot Mr. Burns.
So in a sense, I was right.
Kieran Murphy
Dennis Vaughn <ds...@ovnet.com> wrote in message
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jamie
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> On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:51:54 ?, "Kieran Murphy"
> <mrkiera...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> They could have introduced "Sideshow Jerry" or something as a replacement
Or how about "Sideshow Luke Perry"? ;)
Mark-i...@webtv.net
recurring character as that character would have to leave. Forgot about
the baby angle.
®Mark
"Without deviation from the norm there can be no progress"
Sager
REO <r...@tinyonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Do you think this was a little "in joke" included in the script for the
"Who
> Shot" saga, too?
That's probably not the case because the guys who wrote Who Shot Mr. Burns
(Josh Weinstein and Bill Oakley) left the show a little while ago. They
actually have a new show on the WB now - it's called Mission Hill. I saw
the pilot last week - it's really funny. I suggest you guys check it out,
see what the Simpson alums are doing.
Plus, didn't they say in the 138th Episode Spectacular that they had 2
endings (It's been a while). The only reason I can think of as to why
there'd be 2 endings (The alternate WAS with Smithers shooting Burns) was so
that even the cast and animators and whatnot wouldn't know who shot Burns.
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Bill McNeal
>actually have a new show on the WB now - it's called Mission Hill. I saw
>the pilot last week - it's really funny. I suggest you guys check it out,
>see what the Simpson alums are doing.
Uh, are you on drugs? "Mission Hill" has got to be the worst animated show I've
ever seen. Not only was the show not funny and crudely animated, the alleged
"humor" is at a sub-toilet level, making "South Park" look like a children's
show. The characters are all either one-dimensional, physically digusting, or
just plain sick. (I don't consider "sick" in this case to be a good thing.) And
why was Vicki Lewis even listed in the credits? She has Julie Kavner's credit
role (second after male lead) and she has about three lines of dialogue in the
whole pilot, for two different characters at that. And, as always, hideous
bitch goddess Tress MacNeille voices a milieu of minor characters. I'm utterly
disgusted at Oakley and Weinstein for creating such a repulsive show after
years of creating countless classic Simpsons moments.
Ondre Lombard
> Uh, are you on drugs? "Mission Hill" has got to be the worst animated show I've
> ever seen.
I would say it was the weakest I've seen yet. (I even liked "Home
Movies.") I laughed but a couple times at it.
> Not only was the show not funny and crudely animated, the alleged
> "humor" is at a sub-toilet level, making "South Park" look like a children's
> show. The characters are all either one-dimensional,
If by one-dimensional, you mean that they are cariactures of pop
culture stereotypes, I agree.
> whole pilot, for two different characters at that. And, as always, hideous
> bitch goddess Tress MacNeille voices a milieu of minor characters.
What do you have against Tress MacNeille? I'm a bit offended by the
comments you've made against her.
> I'm utterly
> disgusted at Oakley and Weinstein for creating such a repulsive show after
> years of creating countless classic Simpsons moments.
Maybe it will evolve into something better. I certainly don't like
its character design much.
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someone else feel bad. And I'm tired of making other people feel
good about themselves."
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> Uh, are you on drugs? "Mission Hill" has got to be the worst animated show I've
> "humor" is at a sub-toilet level, making "South Park" look like a children's
> just plain sick. (I don't consider "sick" in this case to be a good thing.) And
> why was Vicki Lewis even listed in the credits? She has Julie Kavner's credit
> role (second after male lead) and she has about three lines of dialogue in the
> disgusted at Oakley and Weinstein for creating such a repulsive show after
> years of creating countless classic Simpsons moments.
"Mission Hill" goes on my list of "animated shows I couldn't bear to
watch more than one minute of because they were so hideously ugly."
(Other show on that list: "Stressed Eric.")
Dale G. Abersold
dal...@hotmail.com
"King of the Hill" is an ugly show too, but it passes muster because it
is SO well-written.
Mark Aaron Richey
>> I'm utterly
>> disgusted at Oakley and Weinstein for creating such a repulsive show after
>> years of creating countless classic Simpsons moments.
>
>its character design much.
I missed the premiere of "Mission Hill" (stupid VCR Plus), but I can't
say we weren't warned about the character design. About a year ago or
so, Dale Abersold (I think) either had the first drawing WB released
of the show up on his site, or had a link to the site where the
drawing was. I also recall that there were comments back then about
how crudely drawn the characters looked.
Mark Richey
The Mark Richey Homepage
http://web2.airmail.net/~mrichey
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Bill McNeal
>Movies.") I laughed but a couple times at it.
I liked Home Movies, as it's similar in tone to Science
Court/SquiggleVison/Whatever-it's being-called-this-season.
>What do you have against Tress MacNeille? I'm a bit offended by the
>comments you've made against her.
She does hundreds of voices every year for countless animated shows, yet all of
her voices sound exactly the same. The sound of her voice is really starting to
get to me. I don't see why she's considered such a resource in the VO world. I
mean, does she work cheap, or what?
