Lester and Eliza theories
sarah irani
okay, i just wanna start this off by saying that it woulda been 10 times
funnier if the kids had been named "Bort and Eliza." but that's a
different posting altogether.
Now, i think that Lester and Eliza were the elder siblings of the
one-eyebrowed baby (Maggie's enemy) and one day there is going to be an
all out war in Springfield (perhaps including the sinister koala
stowaway).
Or, maybe Lester and Eliza were a symbol of the Simpsons downfall.
Perhaps Groening want us to know that the show is about to run full
circle. Notice that Lester and Eliza were drawn crudely the way Bart and
Lisa were drawn on the Tracey Ullman Show. Maybe this symbolizes the end
of an era -- the end of a happy decade (almost) of Bart and Lisa solving
Springfields problems. suddenly now it's Lester and Eliza reuniting
Krusty with his estranged wife and suddenly it's Lester and Eliza helping
Apu out of jail. Usually these topics would take up a whole episode each
of Bart and Lisa's antics.
these are just ramblings, but does anyone have any ideas?
Sarah Irani
J.P. Alarie
>
>
>these are just ramblings, but does anyone have any ideas?
>
>Sarah Irani
Maybe they just did it to make you go "what the hell was that?". I know
I did. Just my opinion.
J-P
"Would it really be worth living in a world without television? I think
the surviors would envy the dead!" -Krusty
Jim Smith
On 20 Mar 1996, J.P. Alarie wrote:
> In article <4io36u$7...@lynx.unm.edu>, sarah irani <che...@enzu.unm.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >these are just ramblings, but does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> >Sarah Irani
>
> Maybe they just did it to make you go "what the hell was that?". I know
> I did. Just my opinion.
You forget, J. P.--this is alt.tv.simpsons. _NOTHING_ can go
unexplained, so we must all bandy about theories as to why everything up
to this point has happened, even if there is no real good reason.
Why, just look at this thread I found back in August 1995...
>SUBJECT: Why are Homer's eyes wite?
>NEWSGROUP: alt.tv.simpsons
>NAME: Percival Simpson
>
>Freddy Frig wrote:
>
>>>Well,
>
>George Bush said on this day:
>
>>|On 1995 31 Aug, Norman Osborne wrote:
>>|
>>|My pal Zedekiah wrote:
>>|>Look what David Johns made on Aug 30 1995 !
>>|>
>>|>>>On Aug 29 1995, Guy Smiley wrote:
>>|>
>>|>:Bob writes:
>>|>:>
>>|>:>Well? Anyone?
>>|>:> Bob
>>|>:
>>|>:Uh, because people's eyes are white?
>>|>: _________________________
>>|>:o=)________________________)=o
>>|>: \ \
>>|>: \ Guy Smiley of Earth \
>>|>: \_______________________\
>>|>: o=)_______________________)=o
>>|>
>>|>But the Simpsons aren't people; they're cartoons!
>>|>
>>|>And shouldn't that be "white" in the subject?
>>|>
>>|>David "Speller extraordinare" Johns<<
>>|>
>>|>I think you're on to something, David...the crew of the Simpsons _must_
>>|>be trying to make some kind of joke or political statement. Anyone want
>>|>to guess what it is?
>>|>
>>|>Zedekiah "We're _through_ the looking glass people!" Obadiah
>>|
>>|Maybe it's about race--how people only see white in this world. Look at
>>|how little of the characters' eyes have color in them!
>>|
>>|Norman "Green around the gills" Osborne
>>
>>Why are we wasting time with this pathetic crap when there's the
>>conundrum of Homer's mother's name to be dealt with!
>>
>>George "Herbert Walker" Bush
>
>I personally think it's a social commentary relating to the O. J. Simpson
>trial. I'm not sure how, but I should be able to come up with a
>half-assed theory in five sec...
>
>Aha! The _Simpsons'_ eyes are colorless, because O. J. _Simpson_ is...
>Um....gimme another couple of days...<<
>
>I worked as an intern with Matt Groening, and *he* says the eyes are
>white because people have white eyes.
>
>I worked him over a couple of times, but that's all he would say about
>it. Hopefully we can figure it out ourselves...
>
>Percival T. Simpson
>"Delusions of grandeur? Who's deluded?"
Jim "Wondering if anyone will ask when George Bush was on a.t.s" Smith
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Jim Smith
On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Dave G Nelson wrote:
> Re: characters have white eyes
>
> The animal characters all have white eyes, too, but animals' eyes
> aren't white. The exception is Scratchy the cat, who has yellow eyes.
What's sad is, I can't just automatically dismiss this as a joke...
Jim "Back to the drawing board" Smith
Everything you know is wrong
Black is white, up is down, and short is long
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Dave G Nelson
Kuno-Sama
So? Go watch an old Hanna-Barbara cartoon, and check the character's eyes...
They're the same color as the character's skin! Even black people!
That is just a little bit creepy...
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Mike Schneider
u920...@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (J.P. Alarie) wrote:
> In article <4io36u$7...@lynx.unm.edu>, sarah irani <che...@enzu.unm.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >these are just ramblings, but does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> >Sarah Irani
>
> Maybe they just did it to make you go "what the hell was that?". I know
> I did. Just my opinion.
>
I guess I agree, except, I felt strangely empty at the end. Like I was
waiting for something else to happen, you know, like wake up from a bad
dream or a final punchline or something. I don't mind "what the hell was
that" when I actually get the joke, did I miss something?
I also wondered if Lester and Eliza would be recurring characters or not.
Keep your stick on the ice,
Mike Schneider http://www.bae.umn.edu/Staff/schneider.html
Jim Smith
On 24 Mar 1996, Kuno-Sama wrote:
> Dave G. Nelson (nyt...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
> > Re: characters have white eyes
> >
> > The animal characters all have white eyes, too, but animals' eyes
> > aren't white. The exception is Scratchy the cat, who has yellow eyes.
>
> So? Go watch an old Hanna-Barbara cartoon, and check the character's eyes...
> They're the same color as the character's skin! Even black people!
> That is just a little bit creepy...
Oh goodness, no...
STOP THIS THREAD, PLEASE! I only brought up the topic as the _stupidest_
thing I could think of that a.t.s. could discuss like it mattered. Don't
prove me right...
Jim "What have I wrought!?" Smith
Dingbelle
one-eyebrowed baby (Maggie's enemy) and one day there is going to be an
all out war in Springfield (perhaps including the sinister koala
stowaway). >>
Yes!!! Someone agrees with me! It has to be true or my heart will
crumble!!!
MORE TESTICLES MEAN MORE IRON!
*Ding^bellE*
~~~
"If only this sugar were as sweet as you, sir."
-Hans Moleman
~~~
John Awbrey
for Mildred).
HE-LOOOOO! Didn't anybody notice that Lester and Eliza are
just cheesy take-offs of the OLD Bart and Lisa? You know, from
the Tracy Ullman shorts? _I_ noticed that they looked familiar
from the start. It took me five minutes to realize where I'd
seen them before. They looked _exactly_ like Bart and Lisa in
the TU shorts from the eighties! Any devoted Simpsons freak
could tell! Please! I hope you yo-yos realize this and take
this to your heads! And shut up about Smithers' sexuality! If
his character were revoked, I bet you'd have nothing to talk
about! And Springfield is nowhere!
MS
John Awbrey
DKirk78
<jama...@posh.internext.com> writes:
>HE-LOOOOO! Didn't anybody notice that Lester and Eliza are
>just cheesy take-offs of the OLD Bart and Lisa? You know, from
>the Tracy Ullman shorts? _I_ noticed that they looked familiar
>from the start. It took me five minutes to realize where I'd
>seen them before. They looked _exactly_ like Bart and Lisa in
>the TU shorts from the eighties! Any devoted Simpsons freak
>could tell! Please! I hope you yo-yos realize this and take
>this to your heads!
HE-LOOOOO! This subject was already discussed extensively on a.t.s.
Please read the newsgroup for a while before you yell at the contributors
for things that they've supposedly "ignored".
Daniel "Hans Moleman" McCoy
sarah irani
duh! we know they are take offs of TU shorts, but dammit, they gotta be
back for a reason. something's too creepy about them.
and SMITHERS IS GAY. i know it. we all know it.
