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Andrew Gill

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Refs

Ferris Bueller's Day Off
- The song when the Duff Beer man arrives
The Sting
- Music during Homer's flashback
- also set in New York
Monty Python skit The "I'm Very Sorry Murderer"
- The long list of crimes as "page one" (cf. the people that the man
killed in one morning)
Spartacus
- The scene with the car ramming into the buggy (cf the chariots)

DidJa Notice

...Wadlow reappears?
...The man wearing the apron like the New York prole mother?
...The Doris Grau impersonation?


Chinese Fire Drill

According to my parents, this is a term for a crazy college activity.
It entails stopping at a red light, getting out of your vehicle and
getting back in.

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Ah, hypocrisy...

Doc Quack

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krab...@aol.com (Krabappel) wrote:

>>Chinese Fire Drill
>>
>>According to my parents, this is a term for a crazy college activity.
>>It entails stopping at a red light, getting out of your vehicle and
>>getting back in.
>

>Last I checked, a Chinese Fire Drill involves stopping the car at a red
>light, everyone getting out and running around the car until the light
>turns green, and then everyone getting back in the car at whatever place
>you are when the light changes.

But it's a saying applicable to any situation where there is mass confusion, no
leadership, and motion without motive. The saying comes from descriptions of
the failings of the chinese fire departments of 100 years ago. I hope they've
improved since they gave rise to that figure of speech.

Doc

Krabappel

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Anzellotti Sperling Pazol Small

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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the music from the Sting is by
Scott Joplin, either
"The Entertainer" or "Maple Leaf Rag"
probably the former

Brewing Tea

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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:>>According to my parents, this is a term for a crazy college activity.
:>>It entails stopping at a red light, getting out of your vehicle and
:>>getting back in.

What?!?!? There is actually someone who *didn't* know what a Chinese
Fire Drill was? Shock!

:>Last I checked, a Chinese Fire Drill involves stopping the car at a red


:>light, everyone getting out and running around the car until the light
:>turns green, and then everyone getting back in the car at whatever place
:>you are when the light changes.

Yes, that's more or less correct. There is no *official* CFD, but it
does involve wackiness like that...

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Norman J. Landis

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Er... Why has no one mentioned the Robert Downey, Jr. reference?

...and the truly inspired "Jeremiah's Johnson?"

Andrew Gill

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Andrew Gill <fruadman_tru...@juno.com> wrote in article
<01bcc6f3$e5306d40$238c7680@axg26>...

> Refs
>
> Ferris Bueller's Day Off
> - The song when the Duff Beer man arrives

Incidentally, I just looked it up, it's "Oh, Yeah" by Yello (Hmmm, I
could go two distinct ways ot that.)

Also, the scene where Homer does his <annoyed grunt> was lifted right
out of FBDO, where Cameron does the same. Thanx to pgil...@clark.net
(domer) for reminding me of that.

> The Sting
> - Music during Homer's flashback

Does anyone have the soundtrack? (It's in the tape ase downstairs, I
don't feel like rewinding the tape, and I don't know the name)

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And I haven't done any of my homework!

Doc Quack

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"Andrew Gill" <fruadman_tru...@juno.com> wrote:

>Refs
>
>Ferris Bueller's Day Off
> - The song when the Duff Beer man arrives

>The Sting
> - Music during Homer's flashback

> - also set in New York
>Monty Python skit The "I'm Very Sorry Murderer"
> - The long list of crimes as "page one" (cf. the people that the man
> killed in one morning)
>Spartacus
> - The scene with the car ramming into the buggy (cf the chariots)
>
>DidJa Notice
>
>...Wadlow reappears?

I love those sudden re-appearances, even if Homer was pounding on his knees.

>...The man wearing the apron like the New York prole mother?
>...The Doris Grau impersonation?
>
>
>Chinese Fire Drill
>

>According to my parents, this is a term for a crazy college activity.
>It entails stopping at a red light, getting out of your vehicle and
>getting back in.

I fear that your parents are limited to local knowledge when it comes to that
term. The actual source comes from the fact that chinese law has always held
the source of a fire as being liable for all of the damage incurred by the fire.
As a result, there are very few fires, and the fire department has historically
been more of a parade and marching society. When a real fire occurs, lack of
experience has lead to the generation of the term- Chinese Fire Drill. This
definition has been around for over 50 years that I know of, and my father also
knew of it, covering almost one hundred years.

I'll add that I have witnessed the law in action, and the chinese take fire very
seriously.

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>Ah, hypocrisy...

Doc


Serena PBJ

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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In article <604sts$7...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, she...@worldnet.att.net
(Norman J. Landis) writes:

>Er... Why has no one mentioned the Robert Downey, Jr. reference?

We should put you away where you won't kill and maim us
But we won't because you're rich and famous? :)

--serena (mmmm, crab juice)

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from up and down, and still somehow
it's cloud illusions I recall.
I really don't know clouds at all.

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Alex Ireland

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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>Spartacus

>The scene with the car ramming into the
>buggy

This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
that).

-Alex

Evil Homer

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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In article <01bcc6fb$2ac7a830$34487680@axg26>,
fruadman_tru...@juno.com saw fit to inflict upon us...

> > The Sting
> > - Music during Homer's flashback
>
> Does anyone have the soundtrack? (It's in the tape ase downstairs, I
> don't feel like rewinding the tape, and I don't know the name)
>
"The Entertainer" by Scott Joplin
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Evil Homer, likes ragtime music.
Dares to present alternate opinions to yours. Because, face it, you're
wrong.

Andrew Gill

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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Evil Homer <Ho...@mrplow.com> wrote in article
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> In article <01bcc6fb$2ac7a830$34487680@axg26>,
> fruadman_tru...@juno.com saw fit to inflict upon us...
> > > The Sting
> > > - Music during Homer's flashback
> >
> > Does anyone have the soundtrack? (It's in the tape ase downstairs,
I
> > don't feel like rewinding the tape, and I don't know the name)
> >
> "The Entertainer" by Scott Joplin

I'm pretty sure it's not. Let me check...Damn, you're. right. I
thought it was one of the Merry go-Round music ones...

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But it's the orchestral version, not the piano version.

Norman J. Landis

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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On 22 Sep 1997 03:32:46 GMT, bu...@yfn.ysu.edu (Anzellotti Sperling Pazol Small)
wrote:

It's the former.

RUSt1d?

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Alex Ireland wrote:
> >The scene with the car ramming into the
> >buggy
>
> This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
> that).

This could also be a reference to the race scene in Grease.


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MichaelOMS

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Sep 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/22/97
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In article 604sts$7...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, she...@worldnet.att.net
(Norman J. Landis) writes:

>Er... Why has no one mentioned the Robert Downey, Jr. reference?

My friends and I thought of it as more of a composite -- Robert Downey,
Jr., Christian Slater (who was in trouble more recently), Charlie Sheen,
and various other Betty Ford guests.

Michael Cole

Christopher M Hoppe

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Sep 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/23/97
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On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 03:10:34 +1000, Andrew Bailey <ja33...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, RUSt1d? wrote:
>
>> Alex Ireland wrote:
>> > >The scene with the car ramming into the
>> > >buggy
>> >
>> > This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
>> > that).
>>
>> This could also be a reference to the race scene in Grease.
>
>
>The reference to Ben Hur (more exactly) ... was with the episode that has
>Homer finding out that he is a bad father, (btw. I love the Ugly Kid Joe
>song that is the hold music at the Institute for Modern Fathering)
>
>Anwyays ... the exact Ben Hur moment is when Nelson has his soap box
>racer with the spikey bits on the wheels ... that rip shreds from Barts
>car .... and I seem to recall him also whipping Bart with something ...

UGLY KID JOE SONG!?!?!?! UGLY KID JO--!!?!? Pshhs,, ffst ewd. OK ok calm
down. Calm down. Forgive him Harry Chapin he's young.
-Chris


monk...@worldnet.att.net

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On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 03:10:34 +1000, Andrew Bailey
<ja33...@student.uq.edu.au> wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, RUSt1d? wrote:
>
>> Alex Ireland wrote:
>> > >The scene with the car ramming into the
>> > >buggy
>> >
>> > This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
>> > that).
>>
>> This could also be a reference to the race scene in Grease.
>
>
>The reference to Ben Hur (more exactly) ... was with the episode that has
>Homer finding out that he is a bad father, (btw. I love the Ugly Kid Joe
>song that is the hold music at the Institute for Modern Fathering)
>
>Anwyays ... the exact Ben Hur moment is when Nelson has his soap box
>racer with the spikey bits on the wheels ... that rip shreds from Barts
>car .... and I seem to recall him also whipping Bart with something ...
>
>
>

Oops - gatta nitpick - "That Ugly Kid Joe" song was actually a cover
of Harry Chapin's song, "The Cat's in the Cradle".


cz...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

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Sep 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/24/97
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RUSt1d? (rus...@usa.net) wrote:
: Alex Ireland wrote:
: > >The scene with the car ramming into the
: > >buggy
: >
: > This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
: > that).

: This could also be a reference to the race scene in Grease.

With a whip?

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In article <606bel$h98$1...@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net>,
Alex Ireland <Irel...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>Spartacus

>>The scene with the car ramming into the
>>buggy
>
>This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
>that).

I think this race scene, though it did originally come from Ben Hur, has
become such a standard part of pop culture that it no longer constitutes a
reference to any particular movie.

Cultural references on the Simpsons are often like that. They are not just
pointers to some particular movie or show, but rather to our own obsession
with TV and movies. This is why, in my opinion, references on the Simpsons
are so funny. With the exception of anything involving Mike Judge, the
cultural references in other cartoons come across as just name-dropping to
show how hip the show is supposed to be. For example - and I'm sure I'm
gonna get flamed big-time for this - the extremely unsubtle and over-used
references of The Critic hurt that show rather than helped it.... but then
I guess overt movie references were probably the whole reason the show was
created.

This is analogous to the way that ethnic stereotypes on the Simpsons are
not actually making fun of Indians, Italians, etc. but really making fun
of the fact we (ie., the audience, or America, whatever..) carry around
such stereotypes about people.

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Andrew Gill

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wavie <wa...@sprintmail.com> wrote in article
<342920...@sprintmail.com>...

> Andrew Gill wrote:
>
> > Ferris Bueller's Day Off
> > - The song when the Duff Beer man arrives
>
> Isn't that from the Michael J. Fox movie, "The Secret of My Sucess"?
> (Come on, doesn't someone remember?!)

No. But it was in that movie according to the IMDB. I never saw that
1987 movie, but "Oh, Yeah" got its greatest success from FBDO from '86.
Plus, there were other refs to FBDO, but none (that I could see) to
Secret of My Success. FBDO has become sort of a cult movie, but TSOMS
has not recieved much acclaim.

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Every time I hear that song, I think of the movie.

Arock

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wavie wrote in article <342920...@sprintmail.com>...


>Andrew Gill wrote:
>
>> Ferris Bueller's Day Off
>> - The song when the Duff Beer man arrives
>
>Isn't that from the Michael J. Fox movie, "The Secret of My Sucess"?
>(Come on, doesn't someone remember?!)
>

>Carol
>

It's just a song by Yello. It was on the radio, and in a couple movies.
Most people know it from Ferris Bueller's day off. I hear it all the time
on the radio here in So. Cal, mainly due to 80's music being trendy right
now. It's not a bad song. It certainly is not a "rap song", as one post
suggested. Oh well...


[arock]

Oh yeah... they also used part of the song on some old Twix commercials...

Andrew Bailey

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, RUSt1d? wrote:

> Alex Ireland wrote:
> > >The scene with the car ramming into the
> > >buggy
> >
> > This is a reference to Ben Hur, not Spartacus (and a damn funny one, at
> > that).
>

> This could also be a reference to the race scene in Grease.

Andrew Gill

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Brewing Tea <brew...@ij.net.antispam> wrote in article
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> :>>According to my parents, this is a term for a crazy college

activity.
> :>>It entails stopping at a red light, getting out of your vehicle
and
> :>>getting back in.
>
> What?!?!? There is actually someone who *didn't* know what a Chinese
> Fire Drill was? Shock!

I'm sorry. I'm only 16, so I don't know what fermented sugar-induced
collegiate mayhem is like yet. And some of it, I plan to never know.

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And now, I've got *tape* on my *face*!

Christopher M Hoppe

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On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:18:31 -0700, Arock <goaways...@arock.com> wrote:
> wavie wrote in article <342920...@sprintmail.com>...
>>Andrew Gill wrote:
>>
>>> Ferris Bueller's Day Off
>>> - The song when the Duff Beer man arrives
>>
>>Isn't that from the Michael J. Fox movie, "The Secret of My Sucess"?
>>(Come on, doesn't someone remember?!)
>>
>>Carol
>It's just a song by Yello. It was on the radio, and in a couple movies.
>Most people know it from Ferris Bueller's day off. I hear it all the time
>on the radio here in So. Cal, mainly due to 80's music being trendy right
>now. It's not a bad song. It certainly is not a "rap song", as one post
>suggested. Oh well...
Southern Cal? Ouch! I, being someone who dispises all things trendy, feel
for you man.
-Chris


Mr. Mood

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Sep 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM9/25/97
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FBDO is a movie for the ages that just happened to be out when I was a
junior in HS. If you like John Hughes, you'll love FBDO. If you only like or
even hate Hughes, see it anyway. ;-)

Oh the Ferrari. O the humanity!

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>wavie <wa...@sprintmail.com> wrote in article


><342920...@sprintmail.com>...
>> Andrew Gill wrote:
>>
>> > Ferris Bueller's Day Off
>> > - The song when the Duff Beer man arrives
>>
>> Isn't that from the Michael J. Fox movie, "The Secret of My Sucess"?
>> (Come on, doesn't someone remember?!)
>

>No. But it was in that movie according to the IMDB. I never saw that
>1987 movie, but "Oh, Yeah" got its greatest success from FBDO from '86.
> Plus, there were other refs to FBDO, but none (that I could see) to
>Secret of My Success. FBDO has become sort of a cult movie, but TSOMS
>has not recieved much acclaim.
>

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Brewing Tea

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:>> What?!?!? There is actually someone who *didn't* know what a Chinese

:>> Fire Drill was? Shock!
:>
:>I'm sorry. I'm only 16,

So?!?! That's no excuse! Get older!! :)

:>so I don't know what fermented sugar-induced


:>collegiate mayhem is like yet.

Seriously, I knew about that before I was in college. It was just a
standard joke, like "Putting someone's hand in warm water to make them
wet the bed".

:> And some of it, I plan to never know.

That's probably wise. :)

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