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Andrew Thornton

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Jun 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/29/96
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I'm from England so I need something explaining by an American. In
one episode (I think it was Homer Bad Man) Grandpa is putting up a
Star Spangled Banner on a wall and Marge points out that it only has
49 stars. Grandpa replies something like:
"I'll be cold in the ground before I recognise Missouri"

Can anyone explain this please. I've visited about 18 or so American
states but Missouri isn't one of them so I have no clue.

TIA
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Danny Holwerda

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Jun 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/30/96
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In article <4r5h1l$a...@roch.zetnet.co.uk>, psy...@zetnet.co.uk (Andrew
Thornton) wrote:

> I'm from England so I need something explaining by an American. In
> one episode (I think it was Homer Bad Man) Grandpa is putting up a
> Star Spangled Banner on a wall and Marge points out that it only has
> 49 stars. Grandpa replies something like:
> "I'll be cold in the ground before I recognise Missouri"
>
> Can anyone explain this please. I've visited about 18 or so American
> states but Missouri isn't one of them so I have no clue.


It didn't really mean anything. It was just the angry rambling of an angry
old man...

Warlock

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Jun 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/30/96
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I'm pretty sure this just Grandpa be obnoxious.

Unless of course there's a Sringfield in Missouri? Hmmmm...
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Mike Hardin

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Jul 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/1/96
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> Can anyone explain this please. I've visited about 18 or so American
> states but Missouri isn't one of them so I have no clue.
>
I really don't think this is in reference to anything in particular. No
more than "We had quitters in the revolution. We called them Kentuckians"
really is anything specific Kentucky slam. More than likely just some of
Abe's crazed ideas.

Rick Diamant

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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In article <4r5h1l$a...@roch.zetnet.co.uk>

psy...@zetnet.co.uk (Andrew Thornton) writes:

>I'm from England so I need something explaining by an American. In
>one episode (I think it was Homer Bad Man) Grandpa is putting up a
>Star Spangled Banner on a wall and Marge points out that it only has
>49 stars. Grandpa replies something like:
>"I'll be cold in the ground before I recognise Missouri"
>
>Can anyone explain this please. I've visited about 18 or so American
>states but Missouri isn't one of them so I have no clue.

Well, I'm from Missouri, and I sure didn't get it (maybe that tells you
something). Anyway, it was probably just a throwaway line like they do
all the time, like the first non-Brazilian time traveler line, or Lisa
announcing "We got beets". Doesn't really mean anything other than Grandpa
is a cranky old SOB.


Rick
"P.S. I am not a crackpot"

Ken Simons

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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In article <4r5h1l$a...@roch.zetnet.co.uk>
psy...@zetnet.co.uk (Andrew Thornton) writes:

>I'm from England so I need something explaining by an American. In
>one episode (I think it was Homer Bad Man) Grandpa is putting up a
>Star Spangled Banner on a wall and Marge points out that it only has
>49 stars. Grandpa replies something like:
>"I'll be cold in the ground before I recognise Missouri"
>
>Can anyone explain this please. I've visited about 18 or so American
>states but Missouri isn't one of them so I have no clue.

I'm not an American, but here goes. This is based on the assumption
that there are *no* throwaway lines on the Simpsons, something which I
would never argue myself. So I have to assume that _one_ of the
following scenarios might take place in some alternate reality:

1. Abe Simpson is a lifelong liberal, and as such is deeply offended
by the Missouri Compromise of 1820, which led to the admission of
Missouri as a slave state (the "compromise" being that future
applicants for statehood could not retain or introduce slavery if they
were north of 36 degrees 30 N).

2. Abe Simpson is a lifelong reactionary, and is equally offended that
Missouri, despite giving its name to the Missouri Compromise and
playing a central role in the infamous Dred Scott case of 1857,
nonetheless did not join the Confederacy or fight against the Union
during the Civil War.

3. Abe Simpson, like his son, is apolitical. When he was young, he was
spurned by a woman (or man) from the state of Missouri. He hasn't
forgotten.

Ken Simons


Jerrod Kaplan

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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On Sun, 07 Jul 1996 16:10:41 GMT, ksi...@interlog.com (Ken Simons)
wrote:

More likely than not, it was just a funny joke, and not a political
statement. Grampa doesn't need a logical reason.

--J


Brian Zeiler

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Jul 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/10/96
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Jerrod Kaplan wrote:

> More likely than not, it was just a funny joke, and not a political
> statement. Grampa doesn't need a logical reason.

That's what I figured -- he was just being a bitter old crank with an
unspecified gripe with Missouri for some crackpot reason.

--
Brian Zeiler

Trina Tsipporah Birnbaum

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Sep 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/4/96
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> > Can anyone explain this please. I've visited about 18 or so American
> > states but Missouri isn't one of them so I have no clue.


hawaii was the most recent state. i thought grandpa was making a goof by
indicating the 50th state would be missouri.


Shiloh Willberth

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Sep 30, 2022, 5:06:11 PM9/30/22
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thanks for the explanation guys
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