How old is Mr. Burns?
DE VOLDER - DOBBELAERE
Most will answer this question with: 102
I however believe that this is not true. When Mr. Burns asked Homer how old
he estimated him, Homer answered: "Umm... a 124?"
Mr. Burns said: "No, only 84..."
Homer got the age totally wrong!
The second time Mr. Burns' age was mensioned, it was when Homer beat up Mr.
Burns. Homer got home and he cried to Marge: "I knocked a 102 year old man
in the face!"
Who says Homer got the age right this time?
No members of Springfield seem to have aged in the series, so why would Mr.
Burns have? To my opinion, Burnsie is still 84...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Joey AKA Gary
You are, if only slightly.
>When Mr. Burns asked Homer how old he estimated him, Homer answered: "Umm... a 124?"
>Mr. Burns said: "No, only 84..."
You understandably mis-quoted this, as it was cut in syndication. Actually, it went like this.
Burns: Simpson, how old do you think I am?
Homer: I dunno. A hundred and two?
Burns: [sadly] I'm only eighty-one...
This, (82) would appear to be the truth, as it was stated by Burns himself. Hoewever, in Who Shot Mr. Burns, Principal Skinner refers to Mr. Burns as 104 years old, without an objection from Burns. Homer, also gave Mr. Burns age as 104 in Homer the Smithers, however, Burns himself wasn't around.
Although the show has roughly kept the charectors ages constant, they have switched the ages around, on occasion, usually by accident. Even Lisa was once mentioned as being seven.
Though the age switch was a definate error, maybe it would suit you better to assume that Mr. Burns merely didn't correct Skinner for fear of embarrasment of appearing too old for his age.
However, my assumption is it is a simple clash of the more realistic seasons vs the overely exagerated, later ones. 81 seems to be about the age Burns would be if in the real world. Especially since this episode was made before his largely exagerated frailness was shown (also, before his laregely exagerated exuberence, as in "Flying Hellfish.) 104 seems like the egagerated, cartoon land type age, where everyone who appears to be old is classified as being well over a hundred.
If answering someone, I would choose 81 merely because, as a rule of thumb, what came first should be considered correct with minor details, and because the figure came directly from Burns.
I suppose I have answered your question...and then some!
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from the previously mentioned occurences of others stating his age,
there is also the flashback to Burns as a child walking with his
Grandfather through the atom-splitting plant ("Last Exit to
Springfield"), in which the year was posted as 1909. And also there was
Burns' memory of graduating from Yale in 1914. To say nothing of his
own mother still being alive at 124 years of age.
Aside from the only and only mention of it, Burns suggesting that he's
only 81 can be explained easily. After all, this is the same guy who
can never remember Homer's name (or even who Homer is), and didn't know
most of the players he wanted on his company softball team were long
dead. Let's just chalk it up to a faulty memory on his part.
As for why Grampa would describe Burns as a "young" private, his memory
is even worse! Perhaps the fact that he outranked Burns led him to
believe he was older.
Craig Henrichs
prominent 103 year old."
SurgeDies wrote:
> Well, we know he's younger than Grampa, right? In the Hellfish episode, doesn't
> Grampa describle him as a "cocky young private"?
>
> Jenn~*
SurgeDies
Ernest Piñol
town's most
prominent 104- year-old man', so if he's information is right,
that should be his age.
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Craig Winckler
He can't be 104. He fought in WW2. If he was 104 that would make him
around 45 when the war started. I believe they can't draft you after
your 40 (could be wrong). And Burns doesn't strike me as a volunteer.
SurgeDies
>most
>prominent 103 year old."
>
>SurgeDies wrote:
>
>doesn't
>> Grampa describle him as a "cocky young private"?
>>
>> Jenn~*
So how old does that make Grampa?
Jenn~*
GreenBa092
SHAHBAZ MANSOOR
> In Who shot Mr Burns Part 1, Skinner tells Burns " It WAS rather naive of
you to expect to mistake Springfields most prominent 104- year old for one
of my Elementary School students" ......well?
Maurice
would have been 21 or 22 in 1914, by my calculation. But in the Hellcats
episode, he's shown as a young man in Abe Simpson's unit WW2.
JEdraw
>As for why Grampa would describe Burns as a "young" private, his memory
>is even worse! Perhaps the fact that he outranked Burns led him to
>believe he was older.
In "Two Cars in Every Garage, Three Eyes on Every Fish (7F01)," Grampa
said Burns was just what Springfield needed: 'young blood.'
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non-consecutive occasions, and he chased the Kaiser in 1926--er, I mean 19
dickety 6.
Michael D. Richey
> On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), Deat...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> >There is far more evidence to suggest that Burns is 104 than 81. Aside
> >from the previously mentioned occurences of others stating his age,
> >there is also the flashback to Burns as a child walking with his
> >Grandfather through the atom-splitting plant ("Last Exit to
> >Springfield"), in which the year was posted as 1909. And also there was
> >Burns' memory of graduating from Yale in 1914. To say nothing of his
> >own mother still being alive at 124 years of age.
> >
> >Aside from the only and only mention of it, Burns suggesting that he's
> >only 81 can be explained easily. After all, this is the same guy who
> >can never remember Homer's name (or even who Homer is), and didn't know
> >most of the players he wanted on his company softball team were long
> >dead. Let's just chalk it up to a faulty memory on his part.
> >
> >As for why Grampa would describe Burns as a "young" private, his memory
> >is even worse! Perhaps the fact that he outranked Burns led him to
> >believe he was older.
> >
> He can't be 104. He fought in WW2. If he was 104 that would make him
> around 45 when the war started. I believe they can't draft you after
> your 40 (could be wrong). And Burns doesn't strike me as a volunteer.
The Flying Hellfish fought in World War 1, not 2.
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Eschew obfuscation.
Michael D. Richey
That was WW1.
Rob Viesca
around 25-35 years old. So just find out when taft was in office.. and you
have a brief estimate... of how old his damn mother was, not him =)
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SurgeDies
was born in 1892 or 1893... So in 1996, when the episode in question aired...
Yes, he really was (and presumably still is, since time doesn't advance for the
Simpsons) one-hundred four years old.
End communication.
Jenn~*
MagmaGirl
>> episode, he's shown as a young man in Abe Simpson's unit WW2.
>
>That was WW1.
>
Mag
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"I'm not your buddy, Simpson. I don't like you. In fact, I hate you." (Frank
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Prof. John Frink
most prominant 104 year old man.
the professor
Prof. John Frink
that he cant be 104?
death fox is right on
the professor
David Puckett
"McKinleynomics"?
Grampa also claims to have been spanked by Grover Cleveland on two
non-consecutive occassions though...
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college reunion, I think in 1937. Therefore, if he graduated from
college in 1912, he could possibly have been born in 1890. However, my
n umbers may be off.
SurgeDies
again?
Jenn~*
Jeff Shirray
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>WHO GIVES A FLYING F---K?????
People. These people. Anyway, the reason that Mr. Burns was a private and
Abe a general was because Monty was demoted before-hand. I forget the
reason, but Bart asked Abe: "So why were you a General and Mr. Burns only a
private?" He tells him why. That'sthe way it happened. And Mr. Burns'
mother is in her 120's, so I can't see how Monty could be 103 or 104. So,
Skinner said that Mr. Burns is 103 or 104. This is the same guy who took on
the real Skinner's identity 10, 15 or 20 years ago. Mr. Burns' assistant,
Smithers, who's job is to know every detail about Monty said that his mother
was in her 120's, which means that his mom got doped up when she was 16.
Now, in the Bobo flashback ala Where are They Now?, Mr. Burns came from a
functional family of 2 30-somethings. Now, back to what Green Ba said, who
gives a fuke? Anyone who does should be dragged out into the street and
shot for the betterment of the human race.
CoryanderX
>mother is in her 120's, so I can't see how Monty could be 103 or 104.
Why not?
Sunshine
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SurgeDies
>mother is in her 120's, so I can't see how Monty could be 103 or 104.
How old was your mother when she had you, forty?
>his mother
>was in her 120's, which means that his mom got doped up when she was 16.
What does that mean?
>who
>gives a fuke? Anyone who does should be dragged out into the street and
>shot for the betterment of the human race.
Two things: first, learn how to spell. Second, get bent.
Jenn~*
Jessi Cuellar
And Mr. Burns' mother is in her 120's, so I can't see how Monty could be
103 or 104.
Jessi;
If Mr.Burns is 104,which he is,then he was born in the last part of the
19th century.Back then,women married at 15 or 16 and had kids long
before they turned 20,so it is correct to say that Mrs.Burns is 120 yrs
old or more.
Bill & Caren
and it's Hellfish!
"We'll do it for Ox, Asa, and Burnsy.....well not so much for Burnsy"
Shaun Mead
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If, as you say, time is frozen in the Simpsons, shouldn't it be frozen in
1989 or 1987, when they premiered?
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Reznik
>
> I heard somewhere he is 104...
Who shot Mr Burns part 2, probably.
Skinner refers to CMB as 'the cities most prominent 104yr old man'
ever so sincerely,
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SurgeDies
>1989 or 1987, when they premiered?
Yeah, that's why they talk about President Clinton.
Jenn~*
David Brunt
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>>If, as you say, time is frozen in the Simpsons, shouldn't it be frozen in
>>1989 or 1987, when they premiered?
>
>Yeah, that's why they talk about President Clinton.
I think the point is that the characters in the show are stuck into their own time
warp and don't age beyond the point when they are first seen - why Bart and Lisa and
their contemporaries have been in the same class for ten years - yet they can still
experience events outside the bubble.
Hey, Springfield's in a state in the Twilight Zone......
So, Burns was 104 in the episode this came up, yet is *still* 104 years later.
This is a standard TV convention to avoid future syndication problems, though throws
up its own. MASH, for example, usually had a Christmas episode in each year of its
run, yet the Korean war only covered the period of two Christmases.
David
CoryanderX
>>If, as you say, time is frozen in the Simpsons, shouldn't it be frozen in
>>1989 or 1987, when they premiered?
>
>Yeah, that's why they talk about President Clinton.
So they're actually in the future in the early episodes? Wow!
Prof. John Frink
>
> So they're actually in the future in the early episodes? Wow!
>
sounds like that idea could be turned into a series!
the professor
Shaun Mead
Caren Christina Barth
: Yes! That's the one.
: Reznik wrote:
: > Shaun Mead wrote:
: > >
: > > I heard somewhere he is 104...
: >
: > Who shot Mr Burns part 2, probably.
: > Skinner refers to CMB as 'the cities most prominent 104yr old man'
: >
Ok, so how old is Grampa Simpson? He must be older than Mr. Burns because
when they were in the Hellfish together, Burns was the young private.
--Caren
cjsee
Caren Christina Barth wrote:
> Shaun Mead (shaun...@ns.sympatico.ca) wrote:
> : Yes! That's the one.
>
> : Reznik wrote:
>
> snip
>
> Ok, so how old is Grampa Simpson? He must be older than Mr. Burns because
> when they were in the Hellfish together, Burns was the young private.
> --Caren
Marge estimated his age as "God only knows"
"Oh Abe, you've aged HORRIBLY." - Homer's mom