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Tony Matsumoto

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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Alot of my friends say that Lisa's dress and Bart's shirt
is orange, but I really don't think so. I mean, it only
LOOKS orange on TV - everywhere else, it's red, right?
Right??????

Help me out on this one.

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Rich/MetalMan

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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Yeah, they're both red- it's obvious.

Metal Man

Vince Chan

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May 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/7/97
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Actually, they're not. Lisa's dress is always red, however, Bart's shirt
is not _always_ red. He also has an orange and a light blue one. The
light blue one, if I'm not mistaken, is used only on merchandice and the
comics. The orange and red shirts are used on the show, an only the
orange has been used in the comics.
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Heath Barrett

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May 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/8/97
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Maybe its the american TV standard-NTSC

Countries that dont use this standard often joke it means Never The Same
Colour ;-)
although I cant back it up-I have never seen an NTSC tv
Anyway-its very red in Australia-but then again, our toilets flush the
wrong way as well!

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Joona I Palaste

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May 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/11/97
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brp...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
: Heath Barrett wrote:
: >
: > Rich/MetalMan <"cbun...@ix.netcom.com"@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article

: > <5kq428$3...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>...
: > >
: > > Tony Matsumoto wrote:
: > > >
: > > > Alot of my friends say that Lisa's dress and Bart's shirt
: > > > is orange, but I really don't think so. I mean, it only
: > > > LOOKS orange on TV - everywhere else, it's red, right?
: > > > Right??????
: > > >
: > > > Help me out on this one.
: > > >
: > >
: > > Yeah, they're both red- it's obvious.
: > >
: > > Metal Man
: >
: > Maybe its the american TV standard-NTSC

: >
: > Countries that dont use this standard often joke it means Never The Same
: > Colour ;-) although I cant back it up-I have never seen an NTSC tv
: > Anyway-its very red in Australia-but then again, our toilets flush the
: > wrong way as well!

: Well, toilets don't really have anything to do with TVs, though their
: contents are sometimes comparable on the same level. ;-)

: Anyway, you're right; it's probably a blemish of NTSC he's noticing. The
: color green isn't transmitted in color NTSC signals -- only red and blue.
: Our televisions have to determine how much green to "make" by subtracting
: the blue and red levels from the video's brightness information. This
: leaves you with a non-exact approximation of how much green the picture
: should have, and a lot of time gives you incorrect hues (which is why our
: televisions are fitted with tint knobs). It just sounds like somebody had
: their tint knob adjusted for a little too much green (making the red look
: semi-orange), or the station he was watching has a color-blind engineer
: working the dials. Either way, are you sure it's "very red" over there?
: I've always taken the color of their shirts/dresses as red with an ever
: so slight hint of orange -- still for all intensive purposes red, though.
: Adding even a small amount of green to THIS would make it full-on orange.

My TV uses the PAL system, not the NTSC, and I think the children's
clothes are definitely orange, not red.

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Fridolin Froh

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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On Mon, 12 May 1997 02:38:52 -0800, brp...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>> My TV uses the PAL system, not the NTSC, and I think the children's
>> clothes are definitely orange, not red.
>

>Really?! Beats me, then. PAL has perfect color representation, so I'm
>lost on this one. All I know is that it looks like red with a slight
>orange tint to it, but definitely isn't plain old orange.
>
>Brian Petersen
>brp...@ix.netcom.com

I'm also in the PAL-world. If I had to make the choise red or orange,
I definitely would say that Bart's shirt or Lisa's dress are ORANGE.
I imagine red is like blood or ketchup, and I won't say that their
clothes are bloody or ketchup-like.

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