Boy did that rake sequence suck!
ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu
*Nelson laughed
*Flanders acted like a religious nut, and used his special vocabulary
Homer was cruel to his kid (and dog)
* Jasper appeared in the background (during parole hearing)
*The cops were dumb and broke the law
*A whole lot of stupid, irrelevant, unfunny sequences designed to kill
time between commercials (The "leave my son alone" part during the film,
Homer not responding to "Hello, Mr. Thompson" and singing the complete HMS
Pinafore were all potentially cute gags that died because they milked the
joke too long, but Sideshow Bob stepping on all those rakes again and again
had me looking at my watch. Have they no shame?
*OFF blurring their gender (twice; the other time was Selma leaving the
toilet seat up)
*And of course, references.
The true nerds among you can go back and research what the Germans were
saying on the McBain late night show, and whether the jar by Bart's bed
contained bullets or Grandpa's testosterone pills.
Used to be, this was a funny show. Now, it's one big inside joke. Like
someone posted before, not ha-ha funny.
Andrew Ross It's also illegal to put squirrels down your pants for gambling
purposes.
Ray Charbonneau
plot developement. No matter how funny these jokes are, they disrupt the flow of
events that draw you into the show. And when they're not funny (like the rake
incident), ouch! (I liked the toilet seat joke though.)
Soon, if this continues, the show will only be two or three times as good as
anything else on TV.
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Scott_All...@cup.portal.com
this whole episode was a little too cartoonish, and not enough
"Simpsonish". Impossible, silly things like all the props for singing
HMS Pinafore (including the playbill), driving thru the cactus patch,
everybody menacing Bart (e.g., Ned Flanders ala Freddy Krueger), etc.,
etc. I also thought it was unsubtle cartoon humor when Sideshow Bob
was announcing who he wasn't going to kill, and when he got stomped
on by the parade. I don't want "Bugs Bunny", I want the Simpsons.
There was some stuff I liked though. The intro to "The Thompsons"
complete with couch gag was a classic. Chief Wiggum - "He called me
Chief Piggum - oh, I get it now". I likeid it when Bart was trying
to escape from Sidesho Bob on the boat and sees the alligator for
the second time and says "Oh, yeah" as though he forgot. That's the
problem with the TV generation - can't remember anything that
happened 8 minutes ago.
Did anybody else think that Ned's hedge sculpture looked like
St. Barnabus? ;-)
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Jason A. Miller
> *OFF blurring their gender (twice; the other time was Selma leaving the
>toilet seat up)
Oh, come on, *tell* me this wasn't said on purpose ... we just
sat there for a few seconds, then cracked up. Perfect!
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Steve L Portigal
> I also thought the rake sequence went on waaaay too long. I thought
> this whole episode was a little too cartoonish, and not enough
> "Simpsonish". Impossible, silly things like all the props for singing
> HMS Pinafore (including the playbill), driving thru the cactus patch,
> everybody menacing Bart (e.g., Ned Flanders ala Freddy Krueger), etc.,
> etc. I also thought it was unsubtle cartoon humor when Sideshow Bob
> was announcing who he wasn't going to kill, and when he got stomped
> on by the parade. I don't want "Bugs Bunny", I want the Simpsons.
And I *hated* the "I can very presuasive...please leave town,please please
please, I'll be your friend..." Argh. It was something that 10 year
olds could do better. This show really sucked in MHO. I didn't like all the
above mentioned bits.
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> Scott_All...@cup.portal.com burbles:
>> I also thought the rake sequence went on waaaay too long. I thought
>> this whole episode was a little too cartoonish, and not enough
>> "Simpsonish". Impossible, silly things like all the props for singing
>> HMS Pinafore (including the playbill), driving thru the cactus patch,
>> everybody menacing Bart (e.g., Ned Flanders ala Freddy Krueger), etc.,
>> etc. I also thought it was unsubtle cartoon humor when Sideshow Bob
>> was announcing who he wasn't going to kill, and when he got stomped
>> on by the parade. I don't want "Bugs Bunny", I want the Simpsons.
>And I *hated* the "I can very presuasive...please leave town,please please
>please, I'll be your friend..." Argh. It was something that 10 year
>olds could do better.
Did you ever stop to think that *MAYBE* that was the point ??
>This show really sucked in MHO. I didn't like all the
>above mentioned bits.
OK now that we all know all the stuff you don't like....would y'all mind
telling us what *DOES* maketh a "good" simpsons episode ??
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Steve L Portigal
> >And I *hated* the "I can very presuasive...please leave town,please please
> >please, I'll be your friend..." Argh. It was something that 10 year
> >olds could do better.
> Did you ever stop to think that *MAYBE* that was the point ??
Nope. I *never* stop to think. I always just say whatever I think. Damn
brain.
> >This show really sucked in MHO. I didn't like all the
> >above mentioned bits.
> OK now that we all know all the stuff you don't like....would y'all mind
> telling us what *DOES* maketh a "good" simpsons episode ??
Gee, I guess I can't possibly criticize the hallowed Simpsons. Did you
read my "fave bit" from this week post? Did you read the articles I
posted last time saying exactly what parts of the show had me rolling
on the floor? Or any other time?
michael grisham
How about a little originality?
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Reluctantly, brother, I have to agree. Something is seriously wrong in
this episode -- and in the premiere last week. There were some great
moments -- but they stood out because the rest was so lame. In earlier
seasons, the WHOLE EPISODES were like those great moments. I know
lots of fans are going to go into deep denial about this, and say
NO WAY, MAN, IT WAS GREAT! but it's just not.
I noticed them starting to stumble late last season. What has changed?
Who has left from the creative team? Who is new? Someone's to blame!
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Carl Wuebker
> Reluctantly, brother, I have to agree. Something is seriously wrong in
> this episode -- and in the premiere last week. There were some great
> moments -- but they stood out because the rest was so lame. In earlier
> seasons, the WHOLE EPISODES were like those great moments. I know
> lots of fans are going to go into deep denial about this, and say
> NO WAY, MAN, IT WAS GREAT! but it's just not.
Nah, the Thompsons -- d'ohh, the Simpsons are still great. Over the
summer, we didn't have any new episodes, and the fall episodes grew larger
and more wonderful in our minds. By the season's premiere, our expectations
were so great that no episode could have satisifed us. Fortunately, it only
takes two or three episodes to reset our expectations.
But, hey, I agree on that rake sequence. Way too long. Must have been
done to add a minute or two into the show when Jon Vitti hit writers block.
At least he could've thrown in a leaf rake or two for comic relief?
Thanks,
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Winnipg
> had me looking at my watch. Have they no shame?
I agree. If they had left it out it would have been an outstanding
episode. Now it's just good.
Jacob Solomon Weinstein
>Well, let's see what happened in "Cape Feare"
> *A whole lot of stupid, irrelevant, unfunny sequences designed to kill
>time between commercials (The "leave my son alone" part during the film,
>Homer not responding to "Hello, Mr. Thompson" and singing the complete HMS
>Pinafore were all potentially cute gags that died because they milked the
>joke too long, but Sideshow Bob stepping on all those rakes again and again
>had me looking at my watch. Have they no shame?
> Used to be, this was a funny show. Now, it's one big inside joke. Like
>someone posted before, not ha-ha funny.
Actually, I thought this was a damned funny episode, which was a relief,
since I was disappointed by the season premiere. I watched Cape Feare twice,
with two different groups of people, and the rake sequence had me and
everybody else in hysterics both times. I have no idea why it was so
funny, but it was. I thought they kept the HMS Pinafore thing fresh by
making various gags with what Bart was doing.
I also loved the "The Thompsons" opening sequence.
Thomas A. Baker
>
>I noticed them starting to stumble late last season. What has changed?
>Who has left from the creative team? Who is new? Someone's to blame!
>
four years before it lost some momentum.
Folks, it's always been a fact of life that these shows don't necessarily
go on forever. How long can writer's be "fresh"? When does the inspiration
die? To expect that the product will maintain it's creative quality
for years and years and years is a little unrealistic. (And I'm not saying
Mr. Wood is doing that, he's not necessarily, but others here are.)
The writers are going to try harder and harder to actualize enough ideas to
keep the show afloat. The rake sequence actually is a *very* funny idea,
which probably showed its promise on paper.
But I picture what might have happened here was just a little too much
caution. The rake sequence was supposed to lead into Marge and Homer
inside the boat talking, while we hear SSB outside hitting rake-after-rake-
after-rake-after-... Also, it had to be long enough so we'd remember it
when SSB hit yet another rake right after climbing onto the boat.
But, for some reason, we went through way too much of the initial sequence,
which was not subtle in the least. There was then way too little of the
part where we overhear it, perhaps an editing gaffe.
Oh, well. I still liked the whole episode's concept, and the
execution was still a great laugh, which is all I ask.
Tom Baker
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before I send you to Hell!
Thomas A. Baker
tomb...@world.std.com (Thomas A. Baker) (THAT'S ME) writes:
>Gee, you really think so? I just was thankful that the show managed to go
>four years before it lost some momentum.
I know, this is the fifth season. Some folks were saying they noticed
some off timings and forced gags last year. I did, too.
Tom
Josh Bliss
I thought the rake gag was really funny, one of the funnier scenes
in the episode. I guess different parts of each episode appeal to
different people. In particular, I've noticed that with this sort of
gag, where the situation is clear (i.e. Sideshow Bob is surrounded by rakes
and thus going to keep stumbling into them) yet played out for a while,
those who don't find it amusing actually find it quite irritating. While
with most gags, viewers not amused are at worst uninterested.
Josh Bliss
bl...@cp1.uchicago.edu
John W. Kupec
watched the show with my 9-year-old nephew and he laughed his ass off
at the rake sequence. He got me laughing, too!
I agree with those that say that the Simpson's have slipped a notch.
It crossed my mind a couple of times during this season's first two
episodes that a couple of the gags were no better than the lame crap you
see in any run-of-the-mill sitcom.
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ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu
>
>Actually, I thought this was a damned funny episode, which was a relief,
>since I was disappointed by the season premiere. I watched Cape Feare twice,
>with two different groups of people, and the rake sequence had me and
>everybody else in hysterics both times. I have no idea why it was so
>funny, but it was.
Believe me, it wasn't. Funny would have been (close up) one slam to the
left, *groan*, turns and steps on rake to the right, *groan*, (far-off shot,
and now we see beaucoup de rakes partout as Bob steps on a third one, *groan*,
and just maybe they could get away with a fourth as they faded to something
else. More than four counts as a "milk", and going back into close-ups and
again into the birds-eye-view is unforgivable time-wasting. 30 lashes!
>I also loved the "The Thompsons" opening sequence.
I suppose we should be grateful they didn't treat us to the entire opening
sequence exactly as it was during the real opening, with only the couch scene
and the name changed. Harumph!
Andrew Ross Trust me; I have a doctorate in Humorology! Toodly-do!
Neil Hepburn
that they recycled the exact same piece of animation.
Bob gets out from under the car,
Close up of bob getting hit by a couple of rakes
Birds eye view of bob getting hit by a few more rakes
Back to the same close up of bob getting hit by a couple of rakes
And finally back again to see bob get hit by a few more rakes from
a birds eye view.
What is this! I didn't think the Simpsons would take shortcuts
like this
"You see Bart, we can save money by using the same backgrounds
over and over again..."
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Scott Hollifield
TAB>But I picture what might have happened here was just a little too much
TAB>caution. The rake sequence was supposed to lead into Marge and Homer
TAB>inside the boat talking, while we hear SSB outside hitting rake-after-rake-
TAB>after-rake-after-... Also, it had to be long enough so we'd remember it
TAB>when SSB hit yet another rake right after climbing onto the boat.
TAB>But, for some reason, we went through way too much of the initial sequence,
TAB>which was not subtle in the least. There was then way too little of the
TAB>part where we overhear it, perhaps an editing gaffe.
It wasn't supposed to be subtle. It was *supposed* to go on too long!
That was the whole point! "Editing gaffe"?
The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
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Scott Hollifield <scott.ho...@the-matrix.com> wrote:
>TAB>But, for some reason, we went through way too much of the initial sequence,
>TAB>which was not subtle in the least. There was then way too little of the
>TAB>part where we overhear it, perhaps an editing gaffe.
>
>It wasn't supposed to be subtle. It was *supposed* to go on too long!
>That was the whole point! "Editing gaffe"?
>
>The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
I totally agree with Scott. There are too many bitchy, whining
buffoons out there IMHO... RELAX, it's a CARTOON. Some people
will find something funny, some won't. Why the hell harp on 1
minute of the show? If you didn't like that *1 minute* there
was another 21 minutes to laugh at.
I personally thought the rake sequence was brilliant, and unlike
some of the ridiculously pretentious posts on this group have
suggested, I am not an "under-educated idiot that laughs at
anything", I'm paraphrasing severely here, but that was the
gist of a previous message. As Scott said, it was SUPPOSED
to on and on, I liked the effect.
The great thing about the Simpsons is that it violates all
rules of what's proper and upstanding in cartoondom and television
in general. I think this scene completely falls into this category.
Anil Prasad
wcs...@ccs.carleton.ca
John J. Wood
>>
>>It wasn't supposed to be subtle. It was *supposed* to go on too long!
>>That was the whole point! "Editing gaffe"?
>>
>>The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
>
>I totally agree with Scott. There are too many bitchy, whining
>buffoons out there IMHO... RELAX, it's a CARTOON. Some people
>will find something funny, some won't. Why the hell harp on 1
>minute of the show? If you didn't like that *1 minute* there
>was another 21 minutes to laugh at.
Right on guys! I honestly have to laugh at those posts that say
"The Simpsons are going downhill...they're not what they used
to be..etc." To that I only offer an eight-letter word:
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!
>The great thing about the Simpsons is that it violates all
>rules of what's proper and upstanding in cartoondom and television
>in general. I think this scene completely falls into this category.
Exactly! The Simpsons is a helluva lot more than just an
animated cartoon: it's a show that uses an original attitude
to look at today's world!
If things remained exactly like the first season, there wouldn't
be a show to discuss today: The best series in television history
were so because they always moved forward and took chances with
their plots. No, not everything turns to gold on The Simpsons,
but the beauty of the show is that you find something *new* with
*every* viewing of any given episode. That remains very true
today.
And I also thought the rake sequence was hilarious. Seriously, if
I was bitching so much about the Simpsons as some people do here,
I'd take a break from watching the show.
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Yeah! Don't those people with opinions just irritate the hell out of you
all? Don't they realize that this is no place to voice those opinions
unless of course they're applauding the obvious genius of the Simpsons
writers?
MG
ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu
>The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
You were wrong. It wasn't funny.
Andrew Ross
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Must be nice to be the sole arbiter of what is and is not funny. Who
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>In a previous article, ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu () says:
>>In article <1244.14...@the-matrix.com>, scott.ho...@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) writes:
>>>The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
>>
>>You were wrong. It wasn't funny.
>Must be nice to be the sole arbiter of what is and is not funny. Who
>appointed you? Or is it a hereditary position?
Well, I'm a licensed philosopher, and I can assure you that Mr.
Ross is right: The rake scene was, in fact, not the least bit
funny.
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Round Waffle
Oh sorry. My mistake. And there I was, laughing and everything.
Will you do me a favor and let me know before next week's episode what I
should and shouldn't laugh at? Wouldn't want to go along mistakenly
thinking something was funny.
>
>Andrew Ross
>
You're wrong. Your name is Wilhelm. Let's get it right next time,
shall we?
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>
> In a previous article, ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu () says:
>
> >In article <1244.14...@the-matrix.com>, scott.ho...@the-matrix.com
> >
> >>The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
> >
> >You were wrong. It wasn't funny.
>
> Must be nice to be the sole arbiter of what is and is not funny. Who
> appointed you? Or is it a hereditary position?
>
Actually, when it comes to long sequences involving rakes...
ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu is the sole arbiter of what is and what is not
funny.
The rake sequence was not funny. He's right.
ar...@oregon.uoregon.edu
>
>You were wrong. It wasn't funny.
>
>Must be nice to be the sole arbiter of what is and is not funny. Who
>appointed you? Or is it a hereditary position?
It's not as nice as you think; there are so many ignorant fools out there who
insist on laughing at such unfunny things as that certified "not funny" rake
scene. Geez, who do you guys think you are, anyway? Cut it out, and start
whining like any sensible person! What are you trying to do, keep swallowing
whatever they dish out until they just show 30 minutes of Homer sitting around
blinking to see if you think that's funny too?
And I'm not the sole arbiter. Our secret humor retreat has at least a dozen
members to tell you when to laugh. One of us should be located in the nearest
metropolitan area to you. And our vote on the rake scene was unanimous.
Andrew Ross Followups to alt.rake.scene.not.funny
Brendan Dunn
>scott.ho...@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) writes:
>>The writers know what they're doing. I thought it was very funny.
>You were wrong. It wasn't funny.
Was too!
>Andrew Ross
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P.S. Has anyone noticed that alt.tv.simpsons is going down hill? It
seems like the writers are running out of original ideas, and just trying
to fill bandwidth with statements devoid of content.
Timothy M. Schreyer
|> --Brendan
|>
|> P.S. Has anyone noticed that alt.tv.simpsons is going down hill? It
|> seems like the writers are running out of original ideas, and just trying
|> to fill bandwidth with statements devoid of content.
|>
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David Ward
off for like 3 years though.
The first 2 episodes this season have been very weak in my opinion and
I sincerely hope it is not a trend. The Cape Fear one was probably the
worst Simpsons I have yet seen. The entire show was terribly forced and
thus was uncomfortable to watch. The rake thing was one, the Sideshow
Bob musical number was another, the "everybody's out to get Bart" sequence
was another, and the sequence with Sideshow Bob announcing his intentions
to the neighborhood was another.
I hope the fact that the Simpsons have disappointed me does not make me
a "whiner". I've enjoyed this show for its entire run, and I really think
its been the most consistently funny thing on TV. I guess the thing that
disappoints me the most about this group is the level of discussion. Its
only function seems to be for people to parrot this or that reference and
say "boy did anyone else get this?" I'm really glad I have friends who
are fans of the show that I can discuss the show with so I can go beyond
what Chief Wiggum's middle initial is when I talk about it.
So there it is... anyone agree with me? ( i'm sure plenty of people
disagree with me... :-) )
BTW unrelated: how the heck do I uncompress the files in the archive
with the ".z" extention?
-- Dave
C Phelan
I agree with you, and like you I am, was, and hopefully will continue
to be a Simpsons fan. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something
is missing. I tried to say in this group that it might be an overabundance
of forced references, but that caused some scorching (although most of that
was mailed and not posted). Could it be that the characters before were
actually more real than now and thus easier to identify with? One
problem with the Be Sharps was that it was so out of character for all
of them. Even though it is a cartoon, OFF is supposed to be a family
that we can identify with. When they become rock stars and then forget
to tell anyone it's more difficult to see them as people.
(For those of you laughing, Yes I know these are fictional characters.
However, an essential element of fiction is to make it easy for the
audience to suspend this knowledge through the course of the show. I
should have a mental picture of Homer and how he should react in a
given situation. Without this, he's just a drawing. When someone steps
out of character they make this impossible. )
>BTW unrelated: how the heck do I uncompress the files in the archive
>with the ".z" extention?
use gzip which is available from many anonymous ftp sites.
>-- Dave
Chris Phelan
cph...@thor.econ.wisc.edu
Greg Wishart
doug
>In article <29f7ft$b...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, da...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard N Kitchen) writes:
>>
>>You were wrong. It wasn't funny.
>>
>>Must be nice to be the sole arbiter of what is and is not funny. Who
>>appointed you? Or is it a hereditary position?
>
> It's not as nice as you think; there are so many ignorant fools out there who
>insist on laughing at such unfunny things as that certified "not funny" rake
>scene. Geez, who do you guys think you are, anyway? Cut it out, and start
>whining like any sensible person! What are you trying to do, keep swallowing
>whatever they dish out until they just show 30 minutes of Homer sitting around
>blinking to see if you think that's funny too?
>
>And I'm not the sole arbiter. Our secret humor retreat has at least a dozen
>members to tell you when to laugh. One of us should be located in the nearest
>metropolitan area to you. And our vote on the rake scene was unanimous.
>
>Andrew Ross Followups to alt.rake.scene.not.funny
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