Simpsons Censored!
RecurveTD2
has decided to censor a rerun episode of THE SIMPSONS featuring a parody
of a Super Bowl commercial that supposedly promotes "changes" in the
Catholic Church. This comes after criticism from the conservative
Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights. "I'm really angry," said
SIMPSONS executive producer Mike Scully who insists that the parody "was
an observation on crazy Super Bowl commercials, not a comment on the
Catholic Church." Nonetheless, he said that Fox has ordered him to
delete the word "Catholic" from the fake ad. In a weird twist to the
story, Scully claims that Roland McFarland, Fox's broadcast standards
chief, told him that he could change "Catholic" to Methodist,
Presbyterian or Baptist. "When I asked ... wouldn't that just be
offending a different group of people, he explained that Fox had already
had trouble with Catholics earlier this season." What all this means is
that Fox is setting different standards for different religions, which
is troubling to say the least. Certainly, this will be one rerun that
will be interesting to watch and find out what change was made. As a
sidenote, the earlier trouble with Catholics was in an episode which
aired last November where a hungry Bart asks Marge: "Mom, can we go
Catholic so we can get Communion wafers and booze?" To which she
replied: "No one is going Catholic. Three children is enough, thank
you."
Mark J. Finegold
base and revenue stream. I'm stunned...
SurgeDies
whose worlds are tailored around them so they don't get offended?
Jenn~*
David Brunt
SurgeDies wrote in message
<19990604013447...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
Maybe they shout the loudest? Maybe they get offended far easier?
Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
David
Mike Lee
| So, Fox is a business and wants to maintain its advertiser
| base and revenue stream. I'm stunned...
In what sense is the Catholic church an advertiser base?
mikey
Rev. Austin Powers
you made me wonder, "are you talking to me?"
>
> SurgeDies wrote in message
> <19990604013447...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
> >Why are Catholics the only ones whose complaints get heard? And the only
> ones
> >whose worlds are tailored around them so they don't get offended?
> >Jenn~*
>
> Maybe they shout the loudest? Maybe they get offended far easier?
Most overly sensitive really. I don't remember any of the Jewish groups
going after the Simpsons when they portrayed Krusty's father as being a
heatless bastard. I think that would be a bit more offensive really than
the SuperBowl spoof. So I think the Catholic groups need to chill.
> Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
When?
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Rev. Austin Powers
They cold tell members to boycott products that advertise on the
Simpsons. They, along with protestant denominations, have done this
tactic before.
David Brunt
>Hey D...@btinternet.com, in article <7j8b2m$eg2$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>,
>you made me wonder, "are you talking to me?"
Not particularly.
>> SurgeDies wrote in message
>> >Why are Catholics the only ones whose complaints get heard?
>> >And the only ones whose worlds are tailored around them so
>> >they don't get offended?
>> >Jenn~*
>>
>> Maybe they shout the loudest? Maybe they get offended far easier?
>
>Most overly sensitive really. I don't remember any of the Jewish groups
>going after the Simpsons when they portrayed Krusty's father as being a
>heatless bastard. I think that would be a bit more offensive really than
>the SuperBowl spoof. So I think the Catholic groups need to chill.
I'd have thought any attempt to be more *with it* would be a benefit to
them. They must be ready to enter the 20th century now....... Six months
before it ends. It's all publicity - if people thought religion was more
trendy, perhaps more people would be bothered with it.
>> Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
>
>When?
Oh, must be getting near to 2000 years ago.
You don't recognise a paraphrased OFF joke?
'He' thought 'Mark' lived with Mindy.......
David
Yankees937
going after the Simpsons when they portrayed Krusty's father as being a
heatless bastard. I think that would be a bit more offensive really than
the SuperBowl spoof. So I think the Catholic groups need to chill.<<
"Mom, can we go Catholic so we can get free communion wafers and booze?"
"We are *not* going Catholic. Three kids is enough, thank you."
I'm surprised they got offended at the Super Bowl commercial and not this quote
from "Lisa Gets an A."
Andrew Levine
Atheist #1510
Lisa philosophizes, and Bart strategizes, and Marge rationalizes, but Homer
just is.
Deacon
David Brunt wrote:
> SurgeDies wrote in message
> <19990604013447...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
> >Why are Catholics the only ones whose complaints get heard? And the only
> ones
> >whose worlds are tailored around them so they don't get offended?
>
> Maybe they shout the loudest? Maybe they get offended far easier?
>
> Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
Somebody killed the Pope? When did THAT happen? . . . ; )
David Brunt
At least once in 1978........... Allegedly.
No, I meant the big guy. Big J.
David
Rev. Austin Powers
cp1.aol.com>, you made me wonder, "are you talking to me?"
> >>Most overly sensitive really. I don't remember any of the Jewish groups
> going after the Simpsons when they portrayed Krusty's father as being a
> heatless bastard. I think that would be a bit more offensive really than
> the SuperBowl spoof. So I think the Catholic groups need to chill.<<
>
> "Mom, can we go Catholic so we can get free communion wafers and booze?"
> "We are *not* going Catholic. Three kids is enough, thank you."
>
> I'm surprised they got offended at the Super Bowl commercial and not this quote
> from "Lisa Gets an A."
Same here really. A friend of mine noted, when Posh and Scary Spice both
announced their pregnancies in the same week "Wow, I didn't realize they
were Catholic" lololol.
Andrew Gill
<19990604164035...@ng-cp1.aol.com>...
>
> "Mom, can we go Catholic so we can get free communion wafers and
booze?"
> "We are *not* going Catholic. Three kids is enough, thank you."
>
> I'm surprised they got offended at the Super Bowl commercial and not
this quote
> from "Lisa Gets an A."
There's a fundamental difference between a slut manoeuvring around with
various phallic symbols and claiming to speak for the Catholic Church
and a humorous criticism of the Church. And to its detriment, the
Catholic League hated that line, too.
Don't get me wrong--I didn't like the commercial, but I also didn't
like Abe Simpson's kidneys exploding, either. It just seemed a little
too tasteless.
Still, Bart is very misguided about communion. IIRC, Protestants are
much freer with communion, since they only view it as a symbol.
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Oh, and how is the Catholic Church not the one that was founded on
Peter?
Aaron Varhola
>Why are Catholics the only ones whose complaints get heard? And the only ones
>whose worlds are tailored around them so they don't get offended?
It must be that Pope with the high-tops and incredibly foul
language....
Aaron
SurgeDies
>much freer with communion, since they only view it as a symbol.
What do Catholics view it as? Brunch?
Jenn~*
Andrew Gill
<375843F2...@infohwy.com>...
>
> David Brunt wrote:
> >
> > Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
>
> Somebody killed the Pope? When did THAT happen? . . . ; )
Have any of the Orthodox pontiffs been assasinated? I know that the
Greek Orthodox one is in Istanbul, surrounded by Turks...
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[rim shot]
David Brunt
>> >
>> > Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
>>
>> Somebody killed the Pope? When did THAT happen? . . . ; )
>
>Have any of the Orthodox pontiffs been assasinated? I know that the
>Greek Orthodox one is in Istanbul, surrounded by Turks...
There are theories that the short-serving one in 1978 was assassinated. I
forget all the details, but there are one or two books on the subject.
David
Andrew Gill
<19990605024604...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
> >Protestants are
> >much freer with communion, since they only view it as a symbol.
>
> What do Catholics view it as? Brunch?
No. We view it as the body and blood of Jesus. Normally, He's only
spiritually present, but there have been reported cases of eucharistic
miracles where the host will actually bleed.
q.v.:
<http://members.aol.com/bjw1106/euchmir.htm>
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You can dismiss it as very flimsy evidence, but there is evidence...
Aaron Varhola
<fruadman_tru...@juno.com> wrote:
>No. We view it as the body and blood of Jesus. Normally, He's only
>spiritually present, but there have been reported cases of eucharistic
>miracles where the host will actually bleed.
Lionel Hutz: "The Vatican has *deep* pockets."
Aaron
CBCrunchy
non-holier than thou's can make some calls to get it put back in. In the end,
we are the loyal viewers that will keep the show going or not... not a group
that cries every so often. They've been going after Disney and Disney is still
around. Fox should be ashmed of themselves for doing this, esp. after all the
sensational programs then run. I guess The PJ's, Family Guy and all the others
better watch what they say.
hmmm... I'm going to do something better and check out www.music.com..... see
if they upset anyone.
Andrew Gill
<19990605172721...@ng-ff1.aol.com>...
> The catholic church isn't the only one who can deal with
advertisters... We
> non-holier than thou's can make some calls to get it put back in. In
the end,
> we are the loyal viewers that will keep the show going or not... not
a group
> that cries every so often. They've been going after Disney and
Disney is still
> around.
You're probably thinking of the Baptists. Disney hasn't had any
conflicts with the Catholic Church. The only Catholic group that has
said anything about Disney seems to be the Catholic League, which seems
to be a rather fanatical group, whose language seems to be couched in
anti-anti-defamation-group rhetoric.
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&c, &c.
T S
> No. We view it as the body and blood of Jesus. Normally, He's only
> spiritually present, but there have been reported cases of eucharistic
> miracles where the host will actually bleed.
Get the fuck out of here.
mh...@my-deja.com
up a significant revenue stream for Fox and its advertisers.
In article <3757631b...@news.mindspring.com>,
mfin...@mindspring.com (Mark J. Finegold) wrote:
> So, Fox is a business and wants to maintain its advertiser
> base and revenue stream. I'm stunned...
>
> On 4 Jun 1999 02:33:09 GMT, recur...@aol.com (RecurveTD2) wrote:
>
> >The Los Angeles Times reports that Fox, the network of strong morals,
> >has decided to censor a rerun episode of THE SIMPSONS featuring a
parody
> >of a Super Bowl commercial that supposedly promotes "changes" in the
> >Catholic Church. This comes after criticism from the conservative
> >Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.
<snip>
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mh...@my-deja.com
surg...@aol.com (SurgeDies) wrote:
> >Protestants are
> >much freer with communion, since they only view it as a symbol.
>
> What do Catholics view it as? Brunch?
>
Must be. Seems like it's a choice between symbolism, mere food and
drink, or cannibalism.
Metlhd3138
>booze?"
>> "We are *not* going Catholic. Three kids is enough, thank you."
I never got the point of this joke. Could someone please explain it to me?
Paul Mulligan
families have lots of kids.
Andrew Coleman
David Brunt
<19990607163753...@ng-cq1.aol.com>...
>>Mom, can we go Catholic so we can get free communion wafers and
>>booze?"
>>> "We are *not* going Catholic. Three kids is enough, thank you."
>
>I never got the point of this joke. Could someone please explain it to me?
Why she'd say that I can't conceive.
Unless she was being overly protective......
OT: have you noticed the price of rubber has gone up.
If you still haven't got it yet, please note that the Catholic church
frowns on the use of contraceptives.
David
AcK!
"David Brunt" <D...@btinternet.com> was overcome by angst and wrote:
>>> > Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
>>>
>>> Somebody killed the Pope? When did THAT happen? . . . ; )
Not this one, but Peter, the first Pope was martyred. A few more popes were
killed too. Then again JP2 did suffer an assassination attempt, but this time he
survived. Was he wearing a piece of the true cross to deflect the bullet? Guess
that's classified...
>>Have any of the Orthodox pontiffs been assasinated? I know that the
>>Greek Orthodox one is in Istanbul, surrounded by Turks...
>
>
>There are theories that the short-serving one in 1978 was assassinated. I
>forget all the details, but there are one or two books on the subject.
Wait, was that the Pope that some people said 'he died in his sleep,'
accidentally adding, 'with a smile on his face?'
Ah, incompetent homicide investigators... <hmm>
TTYL
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AcK!
avar...@NOSPAM.aracnet.com (Aaron Varhola) was overcome by angst and wrote:
>On 5 Jun 1999 17:46:56 GMT, "Andrew Gill"
><fruadman_tru...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>No. We view it as the body and blood of Jesus. Normally, He's only
>>spiritually present, but there have been reported cases of eucharistic
>>miracles where the host will actually bleed.
>
>Lionel Hutz: "The Vatican has *deep* pockets."
Aaron, are you going to sue the Vatican? Are you really that desperate for cash?
TTYL
... Shagged does not mean having sex, it means knowing someone (in a biblical sense).
Dave
>
> The Catholic church is against contraception so most strictly Catholic
> families have lots of kids.
Does "keep it in your pants" count as a contraceptive method?
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>
> On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:31:00 +0100, with a deafening roar and a whoosh of spray,
> "David Brunt" <D...@btinternet.com> was overcome by angst and wrote:
>
> >>> > Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
> >>>
> >>> Somebody killed the Pope? When did THAT happen? . . . ; )
>
> Not this one, but Peter, the first Pope was martyred. A few more popes were
> killed too. Then again JP2 did suffer an assassination attempt, but this time he
> survived. Was he wearing a piece of the true cross to deflect the bullet? Guess
> that's classified...
An interesting 'did you know':
Taking the number of actual known 'pieces of the true cross' into
account, one can deduce that the 'true cross' was 1,400 feet high, and
600 feet across.
Darrel Jones
Dave wrote in message <375D4E...@gate.net>...
>AcK! wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:31:00 +0100, with a deafening roar and a whoosh of
spray,
>> "David Brunt" <D...@btinternet.com> was overcome by angst and wrote:
>>
>> >>> > Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
>> >>>
>> >>> Somebody killed the Pope? When did THAT happen? . . . ; )
>>
>> Not this one, but Peter, the first Pope was martyred. A few more popes
were
>> killed too. Then again JP2 did suffer an assassination attempt, but this
time he
>> survived. Was he wearing a piece of the true cross to deflect the bullet?
Guess
>> that's classified...
>
>An interesting 'did you know':
>
>Taking the number of actual known 'pieces of the true cross' into
>account, one can deduce that the 'true cross' was 1,400 feet high, and
>600 feet across.
>
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family. We decided there were enough people on Earth claiming to be the
reincartaion of Jesus to populate a town. All the houses would be made out
of wood from the true cross, all the cups would be Holy Grails,... After a
while, it just broke up into a sense of weirdness.
To...@fred.net
: SurgeDies wrote in message
: <19990604013447...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
:>Why are Catholics the only ones whose complaints get heard? And the only
: ones
:>whose worlds are tailored around them so they don't get offended?
:>Jenn~*
: Maybe they shout the loudest? Maybe they get offended far easier?
: Give 'em a break, their leader was killed........
"The Catholic Church: Hey, We Brought You the Zany Borgia Family"
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To...@fred.net
: CBCrunchy <cbcr...@aol.com> wrote in article
: <19990605172721...@ng-ff1.aol.com>...
:> The catholic church isn't the only one who can deal with
: advertisters... We
:> non-holier than thou's can make some calls to get it put back in. In
: the end,
:> we are the loyal viewers that will keep the show going or not... not
: a group
:> that cries every so often. They've been going after Disney and
: Disney is still
:> around.
: [SNIP!]
: You're probably thinking of the Baptists. Disney hasn't had any
: conflicts with the Catholic Church. The only Catholic group that has
: said anything about Disney seems to be the Catholic League, which seems
: to be a rather fanatical group, whose language seems to be couched in
: anti-anti-defamation-group rhetoric.
Hey, can we send the Catholic League to the Southern Baptists for an
Episcopalian to be named later?
To...@fred.net
: Metlhd3138 wrote in message
Well, you've got rhythm.
To...@fred.net
: SurgeDies <surg...@aol.com> wrote in article
: <19990605024604...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
:> >Protestants are
:> >much freer with communion, since they only view it as a symbol.
:>
:> What do Catholics view it as? Brunch?
: No. We view it as the body and blood of Jesus.
"Transubstantiation"
: Normally, He's only
: spiritually present,
And that word "present" have been debated way way WAY back to the 200s and
300s.
but there have been reported cases of eucharistic
: miracles where the host will actually bleed.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, for the record, the Catholic Church has an official
"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
David Brunt
>Ya know, once I got into a (somewhat blasphemous) conversation with my
>family. We decided there were enough people on Earth claiming to be the
>reincartaion of Jesus to populate a town. All the houses would be made out
>of wood from the true cross, all the cups would be Holy Grails,... After a
>while, it just broke up into a sense of weirdness.
Well, that's religion for you..........
Has anyone here read 'Ken's Guide to the Bible'? A nicely irreverent look
at the inconsistencies and juicy bits of the go(o)d book.
David
AcK!
mh...@my-deja.com was overcome by angst and wrote:
>> >Protestants are
>> >much freer with communion, since they only view it as a symbol.
>>
>> What do Catholics view it as? Brunch?
>> Jenn~*
>>
>
>Must be. Seems like it's a choice between symbolism, mere food and
>drink, or cannibalism.
Christians in Roman times had to defend their rites, one of the accusations was
cannibalism.
TTYL
... We are NOT surrounded. We are in a target-rich environment.
AcK!
To...@Fred.Net was overcome by angst and wrote:
> but there have been reported cases of eucharistic
>: miracles where the host will actually bleed.
>
>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, for the record, the Catholic Church has an official
>"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
"feh" ?
TTYL
... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
AcK!
Dave <rat...@gate.net> was overcome by angst and wrote:
>> The Catholic church is against contraception so most strictly Catholic
>> families have lots of kids.
>
>Does "keep it in your pants" count as a contraceptive method?
Not in this country. ;)
TTYL
... I work 40 hours a week to be this poor.
Teutonic39
>>"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
>
>"feh" ?
>
Not just "feh". It's an Official "Feh". Not as bad as "Pah", but worse than
"eh".
To...@fred.net
:>>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, for the record, the Catholic Church has an official
Unless it pertains to Lourdes, Fatima, or Padre Pio. Then it's a "Fa fa
fa!"
AcK!
To...@Fred.Net was overcome by angst and wrote:
>Posting to alt.tv.simpsons on 9 Jun 1999 21:52:18 GMT. And then Teutonic39 saith:
>:>>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, for the record, the Catholic Church has an official
>:>>"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
>:>
>:>"feh" ?
>:>
>
>: Not just "feh". It's an Official "Feh". Not as bad as "Pah", but worse than
>: "eh".
>
>
>Unless it pertains to Lourdes, Fatima, or Padre Pio. Then it's a "Fa fa
>fa!"
Is this an acronym, or an arcane, soundie thing?
TTYL
... A critic knows the way but can't drive the vehicle.
Nathan Mulac DeHoff
>>>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, for the record, the Catholic Church has an official
>>>"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
>>
>>"feh" ?
>>
>
>Not just "feh". It's an Official "Feh". Not as bad as "Pah", but worse than
>"eh".
Buh?
Nathan Mulac DeHoff
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Dave
>
> Posting to alt.tv.simpsons on 9 Jun 1999 21:52:18 GMT. And then Teutonic39 saith:
> :>>"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
> :>
> :>"feh" ?
> :>
>
> : Not just "feh". It's an Official "Feh". Not as bad as "Pah", but worse than
> : "eh".
>
> fa!"
>
Unless you're David Byrne, then it's "Fa fa fa fa, fa fa fa fa fa fa.
Better run run run run run run run away." C'mon, sing it with me!
Kristin Goin
news:376147...@gate.net...
> To...@Fred.Net wrote:
> >
> > Posting to alt.tv.simpsons on 9 Jun 1999 21:52:18 GMT.
And then Teutonic39 saith:
> > :>>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, for the record, the Catholic
Church has an official
> > :>>"feh" reaction to modern day miracles.
> > :>
> > :>"feh" ?
> > :>
> >
> > : Not just "feh". It's an Official "Feh". Not as bad
as "Pah", but worse than
> > : "eh".
> >
> > Unless it pertains to Lourdes, Fatima, or Padre Pio.
Then it's a "Fa fa
> > fa!"
> >
>
> Unless you're David Byrne, then it's "Fa fa fa fa, fa fa
fa fa fa fa.
> Better run run run run run run run away." C'mon, sing it
with me!
Unless you're Crow T. Robot, in which case it's, "And a
couple of tra la laaaaas!"
Kay
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Curtis Gibby
> >>"feh" ?
> >>
> >
> >Not just "feh". It's an Official "Feh". Not as bad as "Pah", but worse than
> >"eh".
>
Sneh.
Curtis