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Michael Wilhelm

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Dec 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/27/97
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As most people have noticed, the writers of The Simpsons always dodge the
subject of what state Springfield is in. After further investigation, I
have come to the conclusion that Springfield is in California. I know there
is no Springfield in California in reality but all the signs point to it. I
am about 80% sure of myself. If you have some evidence showing that it is
NOT in California, please reply.

Mike

Trinschler

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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Michael Wilhelm wrote:
> If you have some evidence showing that it is
>NOT in California, please reply

Well, the most glaring problem with this would be from "Lisa the Iconoclast",
in which it is clearly stated that Springfield was settled in 1796 by
Americans. Yes, California was being settled at that time, but by Spaniards
and Mexicans.

Moreover, a hurricaine hit Springfield in "Hurricaine Neddy"; no hurricaine has
hit California in recorded history.

Anyway, the state the Springfield is in ("A State Like No Other") was founded
by circus performers. Who'd want to claim Springfield after that revelation?

Tom Rinschler


"Nonsense! They couldn't hit an elephant at that dist--"
---last words of Major General John Sedgwick, at the Battle of Spotsylvania,
May 9, 1864.

Stott

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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Michael Wilhelm wrote in message <684gon$1...@snews1.zippo.com>...


>As most people have noticed, the writers of The Simpsons always dodge the
>subject of what state Springfield is in. After further investigation, I
>have come to the conclusion that Springfield is in California. I know
there
>is no Springfield in California in reality but all the signs point to it.
I

>am about 80% sure of myself. If you have some evidence showing that it is
>NOT in California, please reply.
>
>Mike


What evidence do you have that it is in california? Wondering minds want to
know.

Glenn

George Carter

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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Michael Wilhelm <mwil...@mailserv.maxinet.com> wrote in article


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> As most people have noticed, the writers of The Simpsons always dodge the
> subject of what state Springfield is in. After further investigation, I
> have come to the conclusion that Springfield is in California. I know
there
> is no Springfield in California in reality but all the signs point to it.
I
> am about 80% sure of myself. If you have some evidence showing that it
is
> NOT in California, please reply.
>
> Mike

California ?? Last I checked, there is no snow in that state.

Phil Casimiri

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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It can't be California because it doesn't snow there, plus in one
episode Lisa point to a north-eastern part of a map but the Bart stuck
his head in.

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Trinschler wrote:

> Michael Wilhelm wrote:
> > If you have some evidence showing that it is

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Phil Casimiri wrote:
>It can't be California because it doesn't snow there,

Oh my, all those ski resorts up in the mountains are in for a nasty shock!

Actually, it does snow in California, just not in the well-publicised areas
like Los Angeles. Other areas, especially in the north or in the higher
elevations, do get snow.

JEdraw

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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Okay, first of all, I'm almost positive the original post was a troll.

>>>>>

In article <19971228061...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, trins...@aol.com
(Trinschler) writes:


>Michael Wilhelm wrote:
> If you have some evidence showing that it is
>NOT in
>California, please reply

Well, the most glaring problem with this would be
>from "Lisa the Iconoclast",
in which it is clearly stated that Springfield
>was settled in 1796 by
Americans. Yes, California was being settled at that
>time, but by Spaniards
and Mexicans.
>>>>>

>>>>>
Moreover, a hurricaine hit Springfield
>in "Hurricaine Neddy"; no hurricaine has
hit California in recorded
>history.
>>>>>

That's because the town record hall only goes back to 1974 when the record hall
was mysteriously destroyed.

>>>>>
Anyway, the state the Springfield is in ("A State Like No Other")
>was founded
by circus performers. Who'd want to claim Springfield after that
>revelation?


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jason king

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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In one particular episode lisa points at Springfield. Although you
can't see the actual state(lisa is standing in the way), it is in the
middle of the USofA.

Jason King

Wolf303

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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You people didn't see the Reader's Digest episode, obviously. On the
map, they showed Blinky the Fish and Springfield in Utah. That's where
it is. Of course, you'd have to ignore all the evidence of it being on a
seacoast, and numerous other evidence.
In conclusion, the writers screwed it up so bad, Springfield can't exist
in our Universe.

Tchort

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Dec 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/28/97
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In the episode where Bart Joins the Junior Campers homer has a Krusty
Burger map showing an Kursty Burger on an oil derick off the coast of
Virginia. Homer, Ned, Bart, and Rod float there when they take a wrong
turn or a raft trip.


Also in the episode when Homer becomes a football coach there is a cameo
by the Hills. Hank says "We travelled 2000 miles for this". The hills
live in Texas.

Bretskey

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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George Carter wrote:

>California ?? Last I checked, there is no snow in that state.

Really? In the entire state? I think you're confusing the state of California
with the city of Los Angeles. California has many mountains, mnay of which
have snow on them year round. In fact, the mountains that surround Palm
Springs, which is in the desert for cryin' out loud, have snow on them.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there is no state in the union
that gets no snow. Yes, it does snow in Hawaii.

Bret

garak

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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On 28 Dec 1997 06:18:10 GMT, trins...@aol.com (Trinschler) wrote:

>Michael Wilhelm wrote:
>> If you have some evidence showing that it is
>>NOT in California, please reply
>
>Well, the most glaring problem with this would be from "Lisa the Iconoclast",
>in which it is clearly stated that Springfield was settled in 1796 by
>Americans. Yes, California was being settled at that time, but by Spaniards
>and Mexicans.
>
>Moreover, a hurricaine hit Springfield in "Hurricaine Neddy"; no hurricaine has
>hit California in recorded history.
>

>Anyway, the state the Springfield is in ("A State Like No Other") was founded
>by circus performers. Who'd want to claim Springfield after that revelation?
>

>Tom Rinschler
>
>
>"Nonsense! They couldn't hit an elephant at that dist--"
>---last words of Major General John Sedgwick, at the Battle of Spotsylvania,
>May 9, 1864.

what state is it in?its in the script (utah perhaps?)

d towne

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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Springfield has to be in Michigan because in an episode, i dont remember
which one, Bart gets a dime fom Apu for a bottle. Michigan is the only state
with 10 cent refunds.


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S. Alex Friday

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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Wolf303 wrote:

> You people didn't see the Reader's Digest episode, obviously. On the
> map, they showed Blinky the Fish and Springfield in Utah. That's where
> it is. Of course, you'd have to ignore all the evidence of it being on a
> seacoast, and numerous other evidence.
> In conclusion, the writers screwed it up so bad, Springfield can't exist
> in our Universe.

I'm with WOLF (not about the Utah thing) but that THEY SCREWED IT UP SO
MUCH!!!!

S. Alex Friday

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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But, Springfield isn't in the MOUNTAINS!!!!
Remember?????

They took a trip TO the mountains.

Wolf303

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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I'm trying to collect a list of possible locations. If anyone can help,
do it!S. Alex Friday wrote:

Greg Ferguson

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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Michael,
Remember the boy scouts episode? Homer found the oil rig on the Krusty
Burger map on the _east_ coast. Also, the New York episode this season
had the Simpsons take a $6 bus ride to NY. I don't think Californians
can get to NY on a $6 bus fare :D
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Michael Wilhelm wrote:
>
> As most people have noticed, the writers of The Simpsons always dodge the
> subject of what state Springfield is in. After further investigation, I
> have come to the conclusion that Springfield is in California. I know there
> is no Springfield in California in reality but all the signs point to it. I
> am about 80% sure of myself. If you have some evidence showing that it is
> NOT in California, please reply.
>
> Mike

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Phil Casimiri

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Dec 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/29/97
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Nice try, but One mistake. There is one episode (Lisa is a vegitarian)
were Lisa and Apu walk though a Secret stair case of Non-Alocholic beer

Which means they sell beer also, in some episodes you see other's buying
or smashing beer.

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ANDYFLAV wrote:

> ok here is my guess. 1st lisa points to the middle to north east by
> most
> peoples accounts in one episdoe, we dont see the exsact part due to
> that bart
> guy. 2nd barnny drives to new york in homers car homer takes a bustrip
> there to
> get the car back....the trip takes less than a day.....we all know
> that
> spingfield was founded before the ousina purchase....after jeffferson
> who
> beacume president in 1800. and inanother episode , a road sign, that
> states
> mexico is about 600... miles away...too many inconsistincys (on
> perpase no
> doubt ) but my guess-----wait just thought of something you never see
> homer buy
> duff in the kwiky mart do you, it must be one of the three states
> (only three
> to my knowledge) that still dont sale bear in convince
> store....PA,,VIRGINA or
> MASS. mmmmmm all by the coast all close enough to new york....hmmmm

Ryan Paige

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d towne wrote:
>
> Springfield has to be in Michigan because in an episode, i dont remember
> which one, Bart gets a dime fom Apu for a bottle. Michigan is the only state
> with 10 cent refunds.
>

I thought that was on aluminum cans. Of course, I'm getting my
information from a Seinfeld episode; so, who knows.

Fenris

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C'mon. Don't bother trying to figure it out. The writers constantly throw
in contradictions just so everybody wonders where they live. Somebody
posted that the writers screwed up. No; it's a running gag.

There's that thing with the Krusty Burger map, and the fact that they live
near a redwood forest, and they have a canyon/gorge, high mountains, a dam,
and a nuclear weapons test site... That's why they call it Sprinfield, USA.

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Wolf303

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Fenris wrote:
>
> C'mon. Don't bother trying to figure it out. The writers constantly throw
> in contradictions just so everybody wonders where they live. Somebody
> posted that the writers screwed up. No; it's a running gag.
>
> There's that thing with the Krusty Burger map, and the fact that they live
> near a redwood forest, and they have a canyon/gorge, high mountains, a dam,
> and a nuclear weapons test site... That's why they call it Sprinfield, USA.

I said that the writers screwed up, and I mean it.

Fenris

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Robotshark wrote in message
<19971230063...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>Continental U.S., hell-- Do you not all remember that Springfield resides
in
>the 2-dimensional world, unbeknownst to we strange 3-dimensional creatures?
>(THOH IV, 3F04) It doesn't reside in even the same DIMENSION, and you are
all
>looking for the right STATE?

You can't cite /that/. It was a Halloween episode. And /everybody/ knows
those episodes aren't real! =Þ

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ANDYFLAV

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Trinschler

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Tchort wrote:
>Also in the episode when Homer becomes a football coach there is a cameo
>by the Hills. Hank says "We travelled 2000 miles for this". The hills
>live in Texas.

Hmmm. This newsgroup already discussed this right after "Bart Star".
Unfortuantely, 2000 miles form Texas is pretty much outside of the continental
US. Puts a damper on the whole thing...

(Unless Hank Hill's driving is *really* bad)

Give it up. Springfield cannot exist in the real US; there's just to many
conflicts. My guess is that Springfield exists as an expiriment in the lab of
the Dr. Frink who resides in Lisa's "Genesis Tub"

(Have fun figuring out *that* one) ;-)

Paul52751

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>Subject: Re: What state is Springfield in?
>From: trins...@aol.com (Trinschler)
>Date: Mon, Dec 29, 1997 21:53 EST
>Message-id: <19971230025...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Mirskheads, and i use that tern loosely, anyone knows that Springfield is in
the altered states

Thurston

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Dec 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/30/97
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> "d towne" <dto...@voyager.net> writes:

> Springfield has to be in Michigan because in an episode, i dont remember
> which one, Bart gets a dime fom Apu for a bottle. Michigan is the only state
> with 10 cent refunds.

>>>>

Can't be. The Simpsons don't eat enough cheese or boost the Packers.

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Robotshark

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>Give it up. Springfield cannot exist in the real US; there's just to many
>conflicts. My guess is that Springfield exists as an expiriment in the lab
>of
>the Dr. Frink who resides in Lisa's "Genesis Tub"

Continental U.S., hell-- Do you not all remember that Springfield resides in


the 2-dimensional world, unbeknownst to we strange 3-dimensional creatures?
(THOH IV, 3F04) It doesn't reside in even the same DIMENSION, and you are all
looking for the right STATE?


"Take that, ya lousy dimension!!!" --- Clancy Wiggum.

Robotshark


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TheCentralSc...@pobox.com

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On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:40:06 -0600, Wolf303 <r...@flash.net> wrote:

>I'm trying to collect a list of possible locations. If anyone can help,
>do it!S. Alex Friday wrote:

Here it is: <empty list>

Get over it: springfield is fictional.

Patrick

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Actually, they didn't screw up, they meant from the start to make
Springfield's geographical location so vague that it could never be figured
out.

--
ZyberGoat

Wolf303 wrote in message <34A88C...@flash.net>...

John Tomasic

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Greg Ferguson wrote:

Okay people lets get this through our THICK SKULLS> SPRINGFIELD DOES
NOT EXIST!!!!!!!

Rameses Niblick The Third

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On 30 Dec 1997 06:39:55 GMT, robot...@aol.com (Robotshark) wrote:

>>Give it up. Springfield cannot exist in the real US; there's just to many
>>conflicts. My guess is that Springfield exists as an expiriment in the lab
>>of
>>the Dr. Frink who resides in Lisa's "Genesis Tub"
>
>Continental U.S., hell-- Do you not all remember that Springfield resides in
>the 2-dimensional world, unbeknownst to we strange 3-dimensional creatures?
>(THOH IV, 3F04) It doesn't reside in even the same DIMENSION, and you are all
>looking for the right STATE?
>

Just it's impossible for things to exist doesn't mean that their
fictional counterparts must take place in a different dimension. For
example, we don't have four fingers or yellow skin. (Most of us
anyway). So then you can't really say just because The Simpsons live
in "flatland" doesn't mean they are in a different dimension to us...


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Dec 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/31/97
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Wolf303 <r...@flash.net> wrote:
> I'm trying to collect a list of possible locations. If anyone can help,
> do it!
>>>>

I've FIGURED IT OUT!

Springfield is located in Rand McNally! RandMcNally is a continent
located on the globe just south of the equator. In Radn McNally,
they wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people.

ericp...@pb.net


0rlando

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Dec 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/31/97
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Wolf303 wrote:
>
> Fenris wrote:
> >
> > C'mon. Don't bother trying to figure it out. The writers constantly throw
> > in contradictions just so everybody wonders where they live. Somebody
> > posted that the writers screwed up. No; it's a running gag.
> >
> > There's that thing with the Krusty Burger map, and the fact that they live
> > near a redwood forest, and they have a canyon/gorge, high mountains, a dam,
> > and a nuclear weapons test site... That's why they call it Sprinfield, USA.
>
> I said that the writers screwed up, and I mean it.

No they didn't... It's all on purpose... why do you think that everytime
they are going to say in what state Springfield is, there's a loud
noise, or someone blocks the view?

0rlando

0rlando

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Dec 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/31/97
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Get a life, idiot.

0rlando

0rlando

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Dec 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/31/97
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Robotshark wrote:
>
> >Give it up. Springfield cannot exist in the real US; there's just to many
> >conflicts. My guess is that Springfield exists as an expiriment in the lab
> >of
> >the Dr. Frink who resides in Lisa's "Genesis Tub"
>
> Continental U.S., hell-- Do you not all remember that Springfield resides in
> the 2-dimensional world, unbeknownst to we strange 3-dimensional creatures?
> (THOH IV, 3F04) It doesn't reside in even the same DIMENSION, and you are all
> looking for the right STATE?
>

What are you talking about... everybody knows that the stories on "THOH"
are fake, and have nothing to do with the show.

0rlando

AlleyAllen

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Jan 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/1/98
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>Okay people lets get this through our THICK SKULLS> SPRINGFIELD DOES
>NOT EXIST!!!!!!!

Actually, Springfield does exist. It exists inside all of us. He-he-he. Just
kidding folks.

DE VOLDER

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Jan 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/2/98
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Everybody knows of course that Springfield is located in America. But the
discussion goes WHERE in America that is...

>>Michael Wilhelm wrote:
>>
>> As most people have noticed, the writers of The Simpsons always dodge the
>> subject of what state Springfield is in. After further investigation, I
>> have come to the conclusion that Springfield is in California. I know
there
>> is no Springfield in California in reality but all the signs point to it.
I
>> am about 80% sure of myself. If you have some evidence showing that it
is
>> NOT in California, please reply.
>>

Greg Ferguson wrote in message <34A85D...@mon.auracom.com>...

>Michael,
> Remember the boy scouts episode? Homer found the oil rig on the Krusty
>Burger map on the _east_ coast. Also, the New York episode this season
>had the Simpsons take a $6 bus ride to NY. I don't think Californians
>can get to NY on a $6 bus fare :D
>------


In issue #11 of Simpsons Comics at the end, the evil Ned Flanders sees a
sign that says,"New York 736 miles." After some research, I have gotten down
to just one Springfield that is almost exactly 736 miles away from New York
which is the Springfield in Georgia...

On the show, Springfield's "rival" town is Shelbyville. Shelbyville,
Illinois is approximately 30 miles from Springfield, Illinois and the local
sports teams often compete with eachother.
On the episode where Jebediah Springfield's body is exhumed, the grave next
to Jebediah's bears is "Adlai Stevenson." Before he became the U.S.
Ambassador to the U.N., Stevenson was the Governor of Illinois. He was born
and buried in Bloomington, Illinois which is in close proximity to
Springfield.

However, a while ago, I was watching an episode of The Simpsons, where Homer
unsuccesfully tried to teach Apu some information about his country, one
of which was showing him where Springfield is located. When he couldn't do
it, Lisa showed him, but just as she did; Bart stuck his head into frame. On
another episode, Bart rents a car to travel with Nelson, Martin and
Milhouse. The four of them decide to travel to the World's Fair in
Knoxville, Tenessee. In doing so they travel trough Branson, Missouri. Now,
if they lived on the East Coast, they wouldn't have gone all the way past
Tenessee to Missouri and then back to the East Coast to come see him. So
they don't live on the East Coast. Then I decide to cross-reference every
Springfield (about 35) with various major roads and highways, etc. Only
three known states with Springfield in them could of had roads that would
take them trough Branson, Missouri. So they either live in : Missouri,
Nebraska, or Minnesota. I've also accounted for the geography and climate of
Springfield...


Jan De Volder
jan_de...@geocities.com
http://www.angelfire.com/de/jdvsimpsons

AlleyAllen

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Jan 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/2/98
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I'VE GOT IT!!!!! I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE SPRINGFIELD IS!!!!! IT'S IN NEW YORK.
Or maybe it's New Jersey.
Or Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, Maine, Texas, Tennessee, Iowa, Minnesota,
Michigan, Louisiana, Montana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Connecticut, Massachusettes,
Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Deleware, Arkansas,
Arizona, New Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, North Carolina, South
Carolina, Georgia, Florida, North Dakota, South Dakota, Colorado, Washington,
Oregon, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.....
Heck, maybe it's actually on Easter Island. Ya' never know!


Noah Smit aka Noah Clockout

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Jan 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/3/98
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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:43:58 +0100, "DE VOLDER"
<jan_de...@geocities.com> Dissed us like this, Gus:

Hello, the hurricane?!?!?!?

TheSnorks1

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>On the show, Springfield's "rival" town is Shelbyville. Shelbyville,
>Illinois is approximately 30 miles from Springfield, Illinois and the local
>sports teams often compete with eachother.

But keep in mind that on the show the two towns share a border (from the
episode with the Lemon tree)

George

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Wyatt

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It's gotta be within rafting distance of one of the oceans. In the
episode where Bart joined the junior campers or whatever, there were 2
oil rigs on Krusty's map. One was off the coast of California, and the
other was off the coast of Virginia. (via Gulf of Mex. is possible)

Shelbyville was started because Shelby (I think that's his name) wanted
to marry his cousins, so it could be around West Virginia. Plus Cletus,
But then you have Flanders and Rev. Lovejoy who seem to both be a part
of that Southern bible belt. And it still has to snow, and have
hurricanes, and have trailer parks that get hit with tornados every 12
days or so.

??????????

Matt

David B.

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Wyatt wrote:

oh would everyone please just stop it?!?!?


johns...@milehigh.net

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DE VOLDER wrote:
>
> Everybody knows of course that Springfield is located in America. But the
> discussion goes WHERE in America that is...
>
> >>Michael Wilhelm wrote:
> >>
> >> As most people have noticed, the writers of The Simpsons always dodge the
> >> subject of what state Springfield is in. After further investigation, I
> >> have come to the conclusion that Springfield is in California. I know
> there
> >> is no Springfield in California in reality but all the signs point to it.
> I
> >> am about 80% sure of myself. If you have some evidence showing that it
> is
> >> NOT in California, please reply.
> >>
>
> Greg Ferguson wrote in message <34A85D...@mon.auracom.com>...
>
> >Michael,
> > Remember the boy scouts episode? Homer found the oil rig on the Krusty
> >Burger map on the _east_ coast. Also, the New York episode this season
> >had the Simpsons take a $6 bus ride to NY. I don't think Californians
> >can get to NY on a $6 bus fare :D
> >------
>
> In issue #11 of Simpsons Comics at the end, the evil Ned Flanders sees a
> sign that says,"New York 736 miles." After some research, I have gotten down
> to just one Springfield that is almost exactly 736 miles away from New York
> which is the Springfield in Georgia...
>
> On the show, Springfield's "rival" town is Shelbyville. Shelbyville,
> Illinois is approximately 30 miles from Springfield, Illinois and the local
> sports teams often compete with eachother.
> On the episode where Jebediah Springfield's body is exhumed, the grave next
> to Jebediah's bears is "Adlai Stevenson." Before he became the U.S.
> Ambassador to the U.N., Stevenson was the Governor of Illinois. He was born
> and buried in Bloomington, Illinois which is in close proximity to
> Springfield.
>
> However, a while ago, I was watching an episode of The Simpsons, where Homer
> unsuccesfully tried to teach Apu some information about his country, one
> of which was showing him where Springfield is located. When he couldn't do
> it, Lisa showed him, but just as she did; Bart stuck his head into frame. On
> another episode, Bart rents a car to travel with Nelson, Martin and
> Milhouse. The four of them decide to travel to the World's Fair in
> Knoxville, Tenessee. In doing so they travel trough Branson, Missouri. Now,
> if they lived on the East Coast, they wouldn't have gone all the way past
> Tenessee to Missouri and then back to the East Coast to come see him. So
> they don't live on the East Coast. Then I decide to cross-reference every
> Springfield (about 35) with various major roads and highways, etc. Only
> three known states with Springfield in them could of had roads that would
> take them trough Branson, Missouri. So they either live in : Missouri,test>

Ivo Anderegg

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johns...@milehigh.net wrote:

> > Everybody knows of course that Springfield is located in America. But the
> > discussion goes WHERE in America that is...
> >

Neither in California nor in Minnesota. I just came home from America, also went
to Springfield. It is located in Virginia, about 30 Miles from Washington D.C.
(called Capital City in the Simpsons) and also near to New York.

Why do you know that this is the real Simpsons Springfield? Because there is a
Shop, a Simpsons Shop who is saying that. :-)


cu

Ivo


VoVat

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>johns...@milehigh.net wrote:
>
>> > Everybody knows of course that Springfield is located in America. But the
>> > discussion goes WHERE in America that is...
>> >
>
>Neither in California nor in Minnesota. I just came home from America, also
>went
>to Springfield. It is located in Virginia, about 30 Miles from Washington
>D.C.
>(called Capital City in the Simpsons) and also near to New York.

Washington is obviously not the same as Capital City. Remember "Mr. Lisa Goes
To Washington"?

>Why do you know that this is the real Simpsons Springfield? Because there is
>a
>Shop, a Simpsons Shop who is saying that. :-)

But there wouldn't be a Simpsons Shop in the real Springfield (unless it was
some kind of store that sold things like Be Sharps, Dancin' Homer, and I Didn't
Do It Boy stuff).

Nathan Mulac DeHoff
Temporarily operating out of:
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http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/
"A woman's voice on the radio can convince you you're in love. A woman's voice
on the telephone can convince you you're alone."


TheCentralSc...@pobox.com

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:43:58 +0100, DE VOLDER <jan_de...@geocities.com>
wrote:
>Everybody knows of course that Springfield is located in America. But the
>discussion goes WHERE in America that is...
>
nowhere, dumbass.

there isn't a state with a capitol of "capitol city" near where five state
intersect and near the ocean w/ offshore oil wells.

get over it. springfield is fictional.

Richard Jones

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Did anyone notice when snake takes the kwik e mart to mexico a sign appears
and says 656 mexico city and shelbeville and one other town
maybe this could help us find the location of the state springfield is in
Richard Jones

Noah Smit aka Noah Clockout wrote in message
<34adab24...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...


>On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:43:58 +0100, "DE VOLDER"

><jan_de...@geocities.com> Dissed us like this, Gus:
>
>Hello, the hurricane?!?!?!?
>

Noah Smit aka Noah Clockout

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On 5 Jan 98 22:03:00 GMT, TheCentralSc...@pobox.com () Dissed
us like this, Gus:

A Simpsons fan who also likes Zappa?!?! YOU RULE!!!!!!

cath-o-lic girls...
noah

Robbi

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Springfield DOES NOT exist..... GET OVER IT.
I can't take this anymore!!!!
Wolf303 wrote in article <34A72E...@flash.net>...
>Trinschler wrote:
>>
>> Phil Casimiri wrote:
>> >It can't be California because it doesn't snow there,
>>
>> Oh my, all those ski resorts up in the mountains are in for a nasty
shock!
>>
>> Actually, it does snow in California, just not in the well-publicised
areas
>> like Los Angeles. Other areas, especially in the north or in the
higher
>> elevations, do get snow.

>>
>>
>> Tom Rinschler
>>
>> "Nonsense! They couldn't hit an elephant at that dist--"
>> ---last words of Major General John Sedgwick, at the Battle of
Spotsylvania,
>> May 9, 1864.
>
>
>You people didn't see the Reader's Digest episode, obviously. On the
>map, they showed Blinky the Fish and Springfield in Utah. That's where
>it is. Of course, you'd have to ignore all the evidence of it being on a
>seacoast, and numerous other evidence.
>In conclusion, the writers screwed it up so bad, Springfield can't exist
>in our Universe.
>

TheCentralSc...@pobox.com

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On Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:09:17 +0100, Ivo Anderegg <mcn...@bluewin.ch> wrote:
>
>Neither in California nor in Minnesota. I just came home from America, also went
>to Springfield. It is located in Virginia, about 30 Miles from Washington D.C.
>(called Capital City in the Simpsons) and also near to New York.

since when does virginia have offshore oil wells?

Dave

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In the "Homer meets his mom" episode, we learn that Walt Whitman
is buried in Springfield.

I don't know where Whitman's final resting place is, but find it,
and you'll find Springfield.
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Single White Male

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On 6 Jan 1998, Dave wrote:

> In the "Homer meets his mom" episode, we learn that Walt Whitman
> is buried in Springfield.
>
> I don't know where Whitman's final resting place is, but find it,
> and you'll find Springfield.
>

>Of course, it might have been a different Walt Whitman. They never
specifically said it was THE Walt Whitman. It was possibly some
Springfieldian who happened to have the same name. (Of course, that would
be an interesting stretch.)

"Early to rise, early to bed makes a man healthy but socially dead."
---Yakko Warner

Super_Beas

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In a state of decay by this point...

Dave

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In <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98010...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>, Single White Male <pwy...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> writes:
>On 6 Jan 1998, Dave wrote:
>
>> In the "Homer meets his mom" episode, we learn that Walt Whitman
>> is buried in Springfield.
>>
>> I don't know where Whitman's final resting place is, but find it,
>> and you'll find Springfield.
>>
>>Of course, it might have been a different Walt Whitman. They never
>specifically said it was THE Walt Whitman. It was possibly some
>Springfieldian who happened to have the same name. (Of course, that would
>be an interesting stretch.)

A different Walt Whitman who also wrote "Leaves of Grass"??

VoVat

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Dave wrote:
>In <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98010...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>, Single
>White Male <pwy...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> writes:
>>On 6 Jan 1998, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> In the "Homer meets his mom" episode, we learn that Walt Whitman
>>> is buried in Springfield.
>>>
>>> I don't know where Whitman's final resting place is, but find it,
>>> and you'll find Springfield.
>>>
>>>Of course, it might have been a different Walt Whitman. They never
>>specifically said it was THE Walt Whitman. It was possibly some
>>Springfieldian who happened to have the same name. (Of course, that would
>>be an interesting stretch.)
>
>A different Walt Whitman who also wrote "Leaves of Grass"??

No, I'm pretty sure that only one Walt Whitman wrote "Leaves of Grass." This
is not necessarily the Walt Whitman who is buried in Springfield, however.
Homer just associated the Whitman who was buried in Springfield with the poet,
as I'm sure most people would. Note that there are also graves for Adlai
Stevenson, Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, and the Big Bopper in Springfield. They
could be Springfieldianites with the same names as famous people, or jokes by
bored tombstone-makers, but I'm pretty sure that these people are not really
buried in Springfield. (Of course, in real life, I don't think that Luke Perry
has a half-brother named Herschel Krustofsky, but that's beside the point.)

Goetz Vogelsang

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Its gone------nuked


THPatrick

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I believe that Springfield is in Ohio, North of Cincinnati......I've been
there, and it's nowhere, man.

Tom Patrick, Brooklyn
Do NOT reload items that I've deleted

Noah Smit aka Noah Clockout

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On 8 Jan 1998 06:30:53 GMT, thpa...@aol.com (THPatrick) Dissed us
like this, Gus:

dude, that's northeast of dayton, really, to be more precise... it's
not THAT bad.

The Enemy Within

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Dave wrote:
>
> In <Pine.OSF.3.95q.98010...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>, Single White Male <pwy...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> writes:
> >On 6 Jan 1998, Dave wrote:
[snip]

> >be an interesting stretch.)
>
> A different Walt Whitman who also wrote "Leaves of Grass"??

Umm.. Yes. A different 'Leaves of Grass'. It's about cannabis.
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The Enemy Within

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TheCentralSc...@pobox.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:43:58 +0100, DE VOLDER <jan_de...@geocities.com>
[snip]
> get over it. springfield is fictional.

Well, maybe in THIS universe. What about infinite parallel universes...

MichHotBoy

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Well, Walt Whitman is buried in a tomb, which he designed himself, in Harleigh
Cemetery, Camden, New Jersey.

Just for the fun of it, is that why the Simpsons can take a bus to NYC? :-)


Mich@el
All art is quite useless.
The only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely.
--Oscar Wilde

MPB

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Walt Whitman (the writer) is buried in Harleigh Cemetary, Camden, New
Jersey.

Dave <rat...@ibm.net > wrote in article
<34b39...@news1.ibm.net>...

Emma

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I dreamt last night that Springfield was in Virginia...but my real theory,
is that it's a mixture of places that Matt Groening enjoyed being at, when
he was a kid.

Emma :-)

Christopher Lyons

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Well, if you want my opinion (and I'm sure you don't) Springfeild can be
found in the last place anyone would look, the place where all things
are forgotten.......THAT'S RIGHT.....It's Alabama, somewhere around that
S%@#- hole known as Elmore. Hell we could be planning WW 3 down here
and nobody would give a flying F&#^!!!!!!!!!!!

Borimyr

Christopher Lyons

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Thanx Emma:

Finally someone I can agreee with......as if it would end up in some
place like Ohio.


Greg NC

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Matt Groening(sp?) said a few years back in The Simpsons magazine that
Springfield was in "A State of Confusion" or something like that when
someone asked what state it was in.


Shawn Reynolds

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Emma <glen...@labyrinth.net.au> wrote in article
<glengran-120...@mortal-as6.labyrinth.net.au>...

jeepers! i always thought springfield was a special place in all our
hearts!


Duncan Findlay

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> >> In the "Homer meets his mom" episode, we learn that Walt Whitman
> >> is buried in Springfield.


> >>
> >> I don't know where Whitman's final resting place is, but find it,
> >> and you'll find Springfield.
> >>

> >>Of course, it might have been a different Walt Whitman. They never
> >specifically said it was THE Walt Whitman. It was possibly some
> >Springfieldian who happened to have the same name. (Of course, that
would

> >be an interesting stretch.)
>
> A different Walt Whitman who also wrote "Leaves of Grass"??

I figured out that it was in Kentucky because of the cities close to it and
checking it against the "Where Springfield Isn't" list.


Brandt Zipp

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> > >> In the "Homer meets his mom" episode, we learn that Walt Whitman
> > >> is buried in Springfield.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know where Whitman's final resting place is, but find it,
> > >> and you'll find Springfield.
> > >>
> > >>Of course, it might have been a different Walt Whitman. They never
> > >specifically said it was THE Walt Whitman. It was possibly some
> > >Springfieldian who happened to have the same name. (Of course, that
> would
> > >be an interesting stretch.)
> >
> > A different Walt Whitman who also wrote "Leaves of Grass"??
>

In case anyone cares, Walt Whitman is buried in Camden, New Jersey.

CandS13

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Springfield is the capital of Illinois you fools! How could you not know that?
Do you know nothing about geography?

Coonass

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On 14 Jan 98 01:51:25 GMT, "Duncan Findlay" <find...@better.net>
wrote:


>
>I figured out that it was in Kentucky because of the cities close to it and
>checking it against the "Where Springfield Isn't" list.
>

A hurricane in Kentucky???????????


0rlando

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CandS13 wrote:
>
> Springfield is the capital of Illinois you fools! How could you not know that?
> Do you know nothing about geography?

Yes, we do. Now here's my question to you... How many "Springfields" are
there in the US? Ahhh...

0rlando

0rlando

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CandS13 wrote:

>
> Springfield is the capital of Illinois you fools! How could you not know that?
> Do you know nothing about geography?
>

Speaking of geography, since when are there hurricanes in Illinois?

0rlando: 2
CandS13: 0

0rlando

Trinschler

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Coonass wrote:

>A hurricane in Kentucky???????????

A hurricaine remnant, yes, but actual hurricaine no. Lots of rain, but no
knock-em-over winds. It's a pity, as Kentucky does fulfill lots of other
requirements (Springfield and Shelbyville somewhat close together, settled in
the 1790's, slack-jawed yockels (sigh, it pains me to admit that), etc.). Then
again, it fails on lots of others...

Springfield is FICTIONAL
Smithers IS gay
OFF stands for "Our Favorite Family"

Supe...@webtv.net

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For a while, I thought the Springfield on the Simpsons was modeled after
Springfield, Massachussetts, especially since they closely resemble
eachother. I ruled out Springfield, Illinois because it's the capitol
city of the state, and the Simpsons refer to 'Capitol City' as the
capitol of their state. I never really gave much thought about where
they lived until my younger brother posed the question, needing to
respond to a pen-pal letter from France for his school. My parents live
in Springfield, so my little brother's pen-pal asked if it was "the same
Springfield as on the Simpsons." I wonder...How many Springfields are
there in the U.S.? If anybody ever finds out whether the creator of the
Simpsons (Matt Groening) modeled the town after a U.S. Springfield,
please let me know which one (the state it is located in). Thanks for
reading!!!

The Do

Greg Charles

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Since we know that Springfield is not the capital of its state, that rules out
Illinois as a contender.

0rlando wrote:

> CandS13 wrote:
> >
> > Springfield is the capital of Illinois you fools! How could you not know that?
> > Do you know nothing about geography?
>

> Yes, we do. Now here's my question to you... How many "Springfields" are
> there in the US? Ahhh...
>
> 0rlando


Steven Coolen

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And don't you know that there are dozens of states in the U.S. that have a
town called Springfield??
Obviously you are are the one who knows nothing, so shut up.


CandS13 wrote in message <19980114053...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

Matt Stetler

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How do you know it's even in USA? It could be in England and they
changed it to be an "American sitcom?"

Matt Stetler

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Speaking realisiclly, cartoons ar ot real. So, why bother?

Alfred Badowski

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In article <69kepo$37h$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
M_S...@webtv.net says...

> How do you know it's even in USA? It could be in England and they
> changed it to be an "American sitcom?"
>

Yeah right.

Reasons the Simpsons ARE American:
- Homer's overweight.
- Marge has blue hair.
- Bart is a brat.
- Montgomery Burns doesn't have a royal title
- Mayor Quimby always gets re-elected.
- There's no public transportation system in Springfield (since
the monorail failed miserably)
- You never see a soccer event.
- Jebediah Springfield was a pirate.
- The elderly don't live with their families.
- Kids get bussed to school.
- Homer lives well despite the fact that he barely has
a high school education.
- There are cows in Springfield
- Apu is Indian and not a Turk or Albanian.
- Chief Wiggum
- They celebrate Halloween.
- There's only ONE brand of beer (well actually two but
nobody drinks Fud or argues about which beer they drink)
- Nobody smokes (except for the Larramy spokesperson and Krusty)
- Dr. Hibbert is affluent
- A lawyer or Hollywood star is present in every episode.
- Kent Brockman states his opinion every night.
- The mafia is polite
- Malibu Stacey, the Comic Book guy, Otto...

I could just go on but I think my point has been made.

So now you're thinking "Yes, but with minor changes, it could be in
Australia" and you'd be right but then I would show you the Australian
episode.

Al Badowski
Ama...@toast.net

CandS13

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Springfield is in Illinois you morons! It's the capital. What are you trying
to do? Look for some deep underlying meaning of where the town really exists?
It's in Illinois!

JJBunks

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>Speaking realisiclly, cartoons ar ot real. So, why bother?

I'd, also, like to speak realistically for a moment...

Oc et to bou ti boi de doo doo :)
Another pointless comment by the craziest guy on the Net


George Matthew Regnery

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In <MPG.f280443b...@news.toast.net> ama...@toast.net (Alfred

Badowski) writes:
>
>Reasons the Simpsons ARE American:

> - You never see a soccer event.

There was a soccer event earlier this season. It was so dull that
everyone in the stands started fighting.
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Bartron

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>Springfield is in Illinois you morons! It's the capital. What
>are you trying to do? Look for some deep underlying meaning
>of where the town really exists? It's in Illinois!

*snicker*

Some people never learn. It's FICTIONAL.

VoVat

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Alfred Badowski wrote:
>In article <69kepo$37h$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>M_S...@webtv.net says...
>> How do you know it's even in USA? It could be in England and they
>> changed it to be an "American sitcom?"
>>
>
>Yeah right.
>
>Reasons the Simpsons ARE American:
> - Homer's overweight.

What? No one in England is overweight?

> - There's no public transportation system in Springfield (since
> the monorail failed miserably)

Actually, there are buses and trains, and occasionally even a subway (like in
"Bart Sells His Soul").

> - You never see a soccer event.

I guess you haven't seen "The Cartridge Family" yet.

> - Nobody smokes (except for the Larramy spokesperson and Krusty)

What about Patty and Selma, or Mrs. Krabappel? Actually, a LOT of the
Springfieldianites smoke.

>I could just go on but I think my point has been made.

I notice that you left out some of the most obvious points. Just watch "Mr.
Lisa Goes to Washington" or "Much Apu About Nothing" for proof that Springfield
is in the United States.

Nathan Mulac DeHoff
Temporarily operating out of:
Vo...@aol.com
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/
"A woman's voice on the radio can convince you you're in love. A woman's voice
on the telephone can convince you you're alone."


Andrew Gill

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VoVat wrote in message <19980115224...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

>Alfred Badowski wrote:
>>In article <69kepo$37h$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>>
>>Reasons the Simpsons ARE American:
>> - Homer's overweight.
>
>What? No one in England is overweight?
[rest snippped]

>I notice that you left out some of the most obvious points. Just watch
"Mr.
>Lisa Goes to Washington" or "Much Apu About Nothing" for proof that
Springfield
>is in the United States.

I'm confused. Is this a sarcastic post and am I just dumb (true, not
mutually exclusive), or is this a serious follow up to a sarcastic post?
I'm confused...

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Sascha83

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>If anybody ever finds out whether the creator of the<BR>
>Simpsons (Matt Groening) modeled the town after a U.S. Springfield,<BR>

>please let me know which one (the state it is located in).

I think the point of Springfield is for you to go crazy and to try to figure
out what state its it. Because there is a Springfield in almost every state.
Theres even one here in Utah. So there really isn't a place where it is. Yeah
not much help from me but thats what I think.

Sascha

Thurston

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> Supe...@webtv.net writes:

> I wonder...How many Springfields are
> there in the U.S.? If anybody ever finds out whether the creator of the


> Simpsons (Matt Groening) modeled the town after a U.S. Springfield,

> please let me know which one (the state it is located in). Thanks for
> reading!!!

>>>>

Seeing Matt Groening is from Oregon, he obviously modeled "Springfield"
on Springfield, OR; and character or two's name on street names in
Portland, OR (Terwilliger).

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T-Rex

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In article <69mg5g$3n0$2...@news1.teleport.com>, Thurston
Rus...@teleport.com wrote:

> > Supe...@webtv.net writes:
>
> > I wonder...How many Springfields are
> > there in the U.S.? If anybody ever finds out whether the creator of the
> > Simpsons (Matt Groening) modeled the town after a U.S. Springfield,
> > please let me know which one (the state it is located in). Thanks for
> > reading!!!
>
> >>>>
>
> Seeing Matt Groening is from Oregon, he obviously modeled "Springfield"
> on Springfield, OR; and character or two's name on street names in
> Portland, OR (Terwilliger).

He was also raised in CA. (And lives here).

Jake Lennington

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Actually, Springfield is in Bonerland.

Kabibblet

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Springfield is in the state of Illinios.


I don't know if there is an eposode on it but I heard that
Springfield,Illinios.>In case anyone cares, Walt Whitman is buried in Camden,
New Jersey.
>
>

They are not talking about what was just quoted up there.

Emma

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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Has anyone remembered to look for Shelbyville???

Emma :-)

R. Flood

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:33:40 -0500, ama...@toast.net (Alfred
Badowski) wrote:

- Homer chanting USA while blowing his car horn.

- Bart referred to as the american exchange student when he
visits France.
- The Simpsons stay at the US consulate in Australia, remember
the US Marine. And Homer jumping back and forth between Australia and
America.

>In article <69kepo$37h$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>M_S...@webtv.net says...
>> How do you know it's even in USA? It could be in England and they
>> changed it to be an "American sitcom?"
>>
>
>Yeah right.
>

>Reasons the Simpsons ARE American:
> - Homer's overweight.

> - Marge has blue hair.
> - Bart is a brat.
> - Montgomery Burns doesn't have a royal title
> - Mayor Quimby always gets re-elected.

> - There's no public transportation system in Springfield (since
> the monorail failed miserably)

> - You never see a soccer event.

> - Jebediah Springfield was a pirate.
> - The elderly don't live with their families.
> - Kids get bussed to school.
> - Homer lives well despite the fact that he barely has
> a high school education.
> - There are cows in Springfield
> - Apu is Indian and not a Turk or Albanian.
> - Chief Wiggum
> - They celebrate Halloween.
> - There's only ONE brand of beer (well actually two but
> nobody drinks Fud or argues about which beer they drink)

> - Nobody smokes (except for the Larramy spokesperson and Krusty)

> - Dr. Hibbert is affluent
> - A lawyer or Hollywood star is present in every episode.
> - Kent Brockman states his opinion every night.
> - The mafia is polite
> - Malibu Stacey, the Comic Book guy, Otto...
>

>I could just go on but I think my point has been made.
>

VoVat

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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Emma wrote:
>Has anyone remembered to look for Shelbyville???

Not to mention Swartzwelder and Spittle Counties, and the Michael Jackson
Expressway.

Tim155

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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Can everyone stop saying, "get over it, Springfield is ficitional"? Everyone
knows that. Personally, I like hearing what theorys that Simpsons fans have as
to where Springield is- It's funny how angry and insulted some people get when
someone brings it up.

But for the Springfield searchers, sometimes you take "evidence" of
Springfield's location too concretly. Like with Lyle Lanley's map- it was made
by a con artist and only those three cities were on it- it probably wasn't
accurate. And when Homer points to the oil rig on the map, Homer doesn't know
where he is, he forgets he has a baby daughter, they could have been anywhere.

David Bulmer

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In article <MPG.f280443b...@news.toast.net>, Alfred Badowski
<ama...@toast.net> writes

>In article <69kepo$37h$1...@newsd-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
>M_S...@webtv.net says...
>> How do you know it's even in USA? It could be in England and they
>> changed it to be an "American sitcom?"
>>
>
>Yeah right.
>
>Reasons the Simpsons ARE American:
Reasons why they could equally be English - my second post and it's an
annoying one. Woohoo! *B^D

> - Homer's overweight.
So's a guy in my class at school.


> - Marge has blue hair.

So does a girl at my school.


> - Bart is a brat.

So are ALL 10 year olds I've ever met!


> - Montgomery Burns doesn't have a royal title

What? So?


> - Mayor Quimby always gets re-elected.

John Major got re-elected a few years ago...


> - There's no public transportation system in Springfield (since
> the monorail failed miserably)

There's no public transport system in the wood down at the end
of my road. *B^J


> - You never see a soccer event.

Ah, right, good point. Damm bluddie soccer.


> - Jebediah Springfield was a pirate.

We've had plenty of famous pirates.


> - The elderly don't live with their families.

Neither do MY grandparents.


> - Kids get bussed to school.

So do I. Or at least I did until I realised it was so miserably
bad that I had to cease immediately and be driven every day.


> - Homer lives well despite the fact that he barely has
> a high school education.

So do soccer stars. *B^J


> - There are cows in Springfield

Wha? And we don't have cows here?


> - Apu is Indian and not a Turk or Albanian.

So? I've never met any Turks or Albanians, but I've met LOADS of
Indians. Well. A few. My IT teacher, for instance. And anyone in the
country who owns a shop that in any way resembles the Kwik-E-Mart. *B^J
> - Chief Wiggum
Um?
> - They celebrate Halloween.
We English do too though.


> - There's only ONE brand of beer (well actually two but
> nobody drinks Fud or argues about which beer they drink)

Well.. uh..okay.


> - Nobody smokes (except for the Larramy spokesperson and Krusty)

But that doesn't prove anything, the US is the main smoking
country in the world. Unless it's not. But I think it is. I heard a
rumour that the US governo ban tobacco of any kind! Haha! Imagine the
uproar!


> - Dr. Hibbert is affluent

Doctors in England get payed LOADS.


> - A lawyer or Hollywood star is present in every episode.

Why does that make it American? You surely don't have a lawyer
or Hollwood star turn up every day of your lives?


> - Kent Brockman states his opinion every night.

Haha!


> - The mafia is polite

Hahaha!
> - Malibu Stacey,
Barbie.
> the Comic Book guy,
Mm, yeah..
> Otto...
Yeah, well.. yeah.


>
>I could just go on but I think my point has been made.
>
>So now you're thinking "Yes, but with minor changes, it could be in
>Australia" and you'd be right but then I would show you the Australian
>episode.

Actually I'm thinking "yes, but most of that could be England
without changing it at all".

I think the two main reasons why it's American are
a) "The town the poets call Springfield, USA"
b) They all have American accents.
--
David Bulmer

Jeff Culler

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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- You never see a soccer event.

You obviously wrote this before the NRA episode.

Emma

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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Springfield is DEFINITELY NOT in California. In "And Maggie Makes Three"
during the flashback when Homer gets a job as a pin-monkey, and loses his
job, he says to Joey, a bowling friend with a hacking cough, "Some day
we'll get to California."

Soooo...the logic is that Homer wouldn't want to visit California if he
was already living there! So, Springfield isn't in California.

Emma :-)

Alfred Badowski

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In article <v21I7aA1tlw0IwH$@bulmers.demon.co.uk>,
da...@bulmers.demon.co.uk says...

> In article <MPG.f280443b...@news.toast.net>, Alfred Badowski
> <ama...@toast.net> writes
> > - You never see a soccer event.
> Ah, right, good point. Damm bluddie soccer.


Actually I thought that England was just an example the previous person
used, so I was making a comparison to the rest of the world, since the
show can always be translated.

> > - There are cows in Springfield
> Wha? And we don't have cows here?

Didn't you Brits have some sort of a cow slaughter party a couple years
ago?

Troy McLure: "Come Jimmy, let me show you the Killing Floor."
Jimmy: "Th... the *killing* floor?"
Troy McLure: "Oh, don't let the name fool you. It's not really a floor.
It's more like a loose grating to let the blood through."

--
Al Badowski
Ama...@toast.nets

- leave out the last s to reply

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