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Ubiquitous
Apr 16, 2018, 9:15:42 AM4/16/18
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Showtime’s Homeland has already shown how they're relating the show
to the Trump administration this season. Now they've show their true
colors by finally reaching the end goal: invoking the 25th
Amendment. Yes, I’m sure that forcibly removing the first female
president will definitely show President Trump a thing or two.
The April 15 episode “Clarity” comes after a continuous
investigation into Russian interference within the nation, which
likely includes a member of Congress. Because President Elizabeth
Keane (Elizabeth Marvel) is becoming more and more paranoid in
silencing her opposition, some members of Congress and even her own
Cabinet begin drafting an invocation of the 25th Amendment to
officially take her out of power.
In her paranoid state, Keane worsens her image by planning to fire
almost a third of her Cabinet for being disloyal to her in a move
her advisors call constitutional but “unprecedented,” mirroring the
media’s reactions to Trump’s actions with his Cabinet.
From this conflict, Keane’s vice president Warner (Beau Bridges)
meets with her saying he won't sign the 25th Amendment document if
she restrains her behavior.
https://www.mrctv.org/videos/homeland-clarity-impeachment
Warner: Power without authority is tyranny. That's the
line I'm trying to keep you from crossing.
Keane: Okay.
Warner: Okay, what?
Keane: What assurance can you give me that if I rescind
the firings, you won't just go ahead and sign the document
anyway?
Warner: I guess you'll just have to trust me.
Keane: When you're one signature away from sitting at this
desk? After you ignored my phone calls knowing full well -
what I was going through?
Warner: I needed the time, I needed - time, I knew you
wouldn't allow without browbeating me somehow into pledging
my loyalty.
Keane: Which, now, all of a sudden, you're willing to do.
Warner: In good faith, as long as you do the right thing.
Keane: I don't like being dictated to.
Warner: I'm defining the limits of my support. There's a
difference.
Keane: Without a majority of the Cabinet, which you do not
have, as of now, that document is invalid. You are pointing
an empty gun at my head.
Warner: Before I came here, I spoke to three separate
lawyers. Each one confirmed that firing close to a third
of your Cabinet under these circumstances is probably
unconstitutional.
Keane: The White House counsel doesn't share their opinion.
Warner: I'm giving you a simple choice, Madam President.
Plunge this nation into crisis or defend it from its real
enemies. Madam President—
Keane: The answer is no.
Warner: Then you leave me no choice but to deliver to the
President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the
House a document declaring you unfit for the Office of the
Presidency.
I’m sure that Homeland wants to seem so insightful with the line
“power without authority is tyranny,” but there are several holes in
this plot. The more we keep going with this season, the more it
seems like the show wants to play things both ways. They want to
show the first female president saddled as the victim of a Russian
plot, but they also want to see a tyrannical Trump-like figure be
punished for being a fascist. The show’s desire to take down Trump
is so strong that they’d risk impeaching their pseudo-Hillary
Clinton.
This isn’t even the first show this year to depict the use of the
25th Amendment to oust a democratically-elected president, it wasn't
even the first show of the day to have fantasies of removing Trump
from office. Hollywood seems to believe that if it can repeat an
idea long enough, it will come true in real life. Trump Derangement
Syndrome has grown so unstable that it’s hard for them to deal with
reality, they have to make things up in their little progressive
bubble. It must be torturous being a liberal.
--
Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
to the Trump administration this season. Now they've show their true
colors by finally reaching the end goal: invoking the 25th
Amendment. Yes, I’m sure that forcibly removing the first female
president will definitely show President Trump a thing or two.
The April 15 episode “Clarity” comes after a continuous
investigation into Russian interference within the nation, which
likely includes a member of Congress. Because President Elizabeth
Keane (Elizabeth Marvel) is becoming more and more paranoid in
silencing her opposition, some members of Congress and even her own
Cabinet begin drafting an invocation of the 25th Amendment to
officially take her out of power.
In her paranoid state, Keane worsens her image by planning to fire
almost a third of her Cabinet for being disloyal to her in a move
her advisors call constitutional but “unprecedented,” mirroring the
media’s reactions to Trump’s actions with his Cabinet.
From this conflict, Keane’s vice president Warner (Beau Bridges)
meets with her saying he won't sign the 25th Amendment document if
she restrains her behavior.
https://www.mrctv.org/videos/homeland-clarity-impeachment
Warner: Power without authority is tyranny. That's the
line I'm trying to keep you from crossing.
Keane: Okay.
Warner: Okay, what?
Keane: What assurance can you give me that if I rescind
the firings, you won't just go ahead and sign the document
anyway?
Warner: I guess you'll just have to trust me.
Keane: When you're one signature away from sitting at this
desk? After you ignored my phone calls knowing full well -
what I was going through?
Warner: I needed the time, I needed - time, I knew you
wouldn't allow without browbeating me somehow into pledging
my loyalty.
Keane: Which, now, all of a sudden, you're willing to do.
Warner: In good faith, as long as you do the right thing.
Keane: I don't like being dictated to.
Warner: I'm defining the limits of my support. There's a
difference.
Keane: Without a majority of the Cabinet, which you do not
have, as of now, that document is invalid. You are pointing
an empty gun at my head.
Warner: Before I came here, I spoke to three separate
lawyers. Each one confirmed that firing close to a third
of your Cabinet under these circumstances is probably
unconstitutional.
Keane: The White House counsel doesn't share their opinion.
Warner: I'm giving you a simple choice, Madam President.
Plunge this nation into crisis or defend it from its real
enemies. Madam President—
Keane: The answer is no.
Warner: Then you leave me no choice but to deliver to the
President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the
House a document declaring you unfit for the Office of the
Presidency.
I’m sure that Homeland wants to seem so insightful with the line
“power without authority is tyranny,” but there are several holes in
this plot. The more we keep going with this season, the more it
seems like the show wants to play things both ways. They want to
show the first female president saddled as the victim of a Russian
plot, but they also want to see a tyrannical Trump-like figure be
punished for being a fascist. The show’s desire to take down Trump
is so strong that they’d risk impeaching their pseudo-Hillary
Clinton.
This isn’t even the first show this year to depict the use of the
25th Amendment to oust a democratically-elected president, it wasn't
even the first show of the day to have fantasies of removing Trump
from office. Hollywood seems to believe that if it can repeat an
idea long enough, it will come true in real life. Trump Derangement
Syndrome has grown so unstable that it’s hard for them to deal with
reality, they have to make things up in their little progressive
bubble. It must be torturous being a liberal.
--
Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
BTR1701
Apr 16, 2018, 11:00:53 AM4/16/18
to
In article <pb27lt$403$4...@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> Showtime's HOMELAND has already shown how they're relating the show
illness" subplot and the "Carrie is a bad mother" subplot. All of that
was tedious and tiresome and just got in the way of the story people
watching HOMELAND tune in to see. Hopefully all that is now resolved and
done with. Of course there's only two episodes left, so it may be too
little too late.
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> Showtime's HOMELAND has already shown how they're relating the show
> to the Trump administration this season. Now they've show their true
> colors by finally reaching the end goal: invoking the 25th
> Amendment. Yes, I'm sure that forcibly removing the first female
> president will definitely show President Trump a thing or two.
> colors by finally reaching the end goal: invoking the 25th
> Amendment. Yes, I'm sure that forcibly removing the first female
> president will definitely show President Trump a thing or two.
> This isn't even the first show this year to depict the use of the
> 25th Amendment to oust a democratically-elected president, it wasn't
> even the first show of the day to have fantasies of removing Trump
> from office. Hollywood seems to believe that if it can repeat an
> idea long enough, it will come true in real life. Trump Derangement
> Syndrome has grown so unstable that it’s hard for them to deal with
> reality, they have to make things up in their little progressive
> bubble. It must be torturous being a liberal.
I'm just glad that they finally dispensed with both the "Carrie's mental
> 25th Amendment to oust a democratically-elected president, it wasn't
> even the first show of the day to have fantasies of removing Trump
> from office. Hollywood seems to believe that if it can repeat an
> idea long enough, it will come true in real life. Trump Derangement
> Syndrome has grown so unstable that it’s hard for them to deal with
> reality, they have to make things up in their little progressive
> bubble. It must be torturous being a liberal.
illness" subplot and the "Carrie is a bad mother" subplot. All of that
was tedious and tiresome and just got in the way of the story people
watching HOMELAND tune in to see. Hopefully all that is now resolved and
done with. Of course there's only two episodes left, so it may be too
little too late.
David Barnett
Apr 16, 2018, 5:35:21 PM4/16/18
to
In article <atropos-9869FA...@news.giganews.com>,
atr...@mac.com says...
David Barnett
atr...@mac.com says...
> I'm just glad that they finally dispensed with both the "Carrie's mental
> illness" subplot and the "Carrie is a bad mother" subplot. All of that
> was tedious and tiresome and just got in the way of the story people
> watching HOMELAND tune in to see. Hopefully all that is now resolved and
> done with. Of course there's only two episodes left, so it may be too
> little too late.
I agree 100% with your comment:
> illness" subplot and the "Carrie is a bad mother" subplot. All of that
> was tedious and tiresome and just got in the way of the story people
> watching HOMELAND tune in to see. Hopefully all that is now resolved and
> done with. Of course there's only two episodes left, so it may be too
> little too late.
"All of that was tedious and tiresome"
--
David Barnett
trotsky
Apr 16, 2018, 6:48:48 PM4/16/18
to
On 4/16/2018 10:03 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <pb27lt$403$4...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> Showtime's HOMELAND has already shown how they're relating the show
>> to the Trump administration this season. Now they've show their true
>> colors by finally reaching the end goal: invoking the 25th
>> Amendment. Yes, I'm sure that forcibly removing the first female
>> president will definitely show President Trump a thing or two.
>
>> This isn't even the first show this year to depict the use of the
>> 25th Amendment to oust a democratically-elected president, it wasn't
>> even the first show of the day to have fantasies of removing Trump
>> from office. Hollywood seems to believe that if it can repeat an
>> idea long enough, it will come true in real life. Trump Derangement
>> Syndrome has grown so unstable that it’s hard for them to deal with
>> reality, they have to make things up in their little progressive
>> bubble. It must be torturous being a liberal.
>
> I'm just glad that they finally dispensed with both the "Carrie's mental
> illness" subplot and the "Carrie is a bad mother" subplot.
That show has already jumped 500 sharks.
> In article <pb27lt$403$4...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> Showtime's HOMELAND has already shown how they're relating the show
>> to the Trump administration this season. Now they've show their true
>> colors by finally reaching the end goal: invoking the 25th
>> Amendment. Yes, I'm sure that forcibly removing the first female
>> president will definitely show President Trump a thing or two.
>
>> This isn't even the first show this year to depict the use of the
>> 25th Amendment to oust a democratically-elected president, it wasn't
>> even the first show of the day to have fantasies of removing Trump
>> from office. Hollywood seems to believe that if it can repeat an
>> idea long enough, it will come true in real life. Trump Derangement
>> Syndrome has grown so unstable that it’s hard for them to deal with
>> reality, they have to make things up in their little progressive
>> bubble. It must be torturous being a liberal.
>
> I'm just glad that they finally dispensed with both the "Carrie's mental
> illness" subplot and the "Carrie is a bad mother" subplot.
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