it's seinfeld stop complaining
Slo
Justin Tribble wrote:
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> "resale4u" <resa...@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> >those of you complaining about how quote'stupid' or 'immature'
> >seinfeld has become...........IT'S SEINFELD, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?! it's a
> >great show for people with that certain sense of humor. any 'immature'
> >seinfeld fan could tell you that. it's still a great show PERIOD.
>
> Boy, you really summed things up well. Sheesh.
>
> I do recall, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Seinfeld gained it's
> respect due to intelligent, witty, and realisitic writing! That is
I've read a number of your posts and I don't understand this obsession
with realism. Is not comedy often times a diversion from reality? Is
laughter not evoked by defying expectations? Hell, if you want realism
go rent "Nanook of the North" - it's a laff riot!
Obviously, Seinfeld's stories and jokes spring from either reality or
from cultural references - they're not speaking esperanto on the show.
As an example let's consider the episode where Kramer wants to prove
that he can still wear tight jeans. This idea progresses to the point
where a kid Kramer's babysitting is terrified when he sees a silhouette
of a stiff legged Kramer walking down his hallway. Now this is what I
consider a good example of late period Seinfeld humor. It starts by
lampooning the REAL trend of boomers wearing relaxed fit jeans and ends
up referring to Frankenstein's monster with plenty of big laughs along
the way. Sure this is unrealistic but it shows great imagination and
is like no other comedy on TV - until another sitcom rips it off.
The show has been getting more over the top in the last few seasons but
this is fine by me. The show needs to mine new territory for fresh
jokes. The old shows that you seem to like so much, I don't know which
ones they are so maybe you'll cite a few, aren't going anywhere and you
can still find them in syndication. However, if Seinfeld just continued
offering variations on those themes it would guickly get repetitive and
boring. I think the show peaked with classic episodes like the Contest,
the Outing, the puffy shirt, the Hamptons ...etc. It wasn't the "realism"
of these shows that inspired awe but the way the plots moved seamlessly
with continuous laughs. But later shows like the Soup Nazi, the Revival
Theatre, the Goofy Dance, and the Merv Griffin Show are at least close to
that same level of funniness. Sorry if I got the names wrong but I'm no
trainspotter.
> something we don't see too often anymore. Sure, the characters have
> always been immature, but atleast in the past they weren't
> 2-demensional TV characters like they are now. In the past, they were
> REAL PEOPLE. Now they are merely cartoons. And I don't like that one
> bit.
Again with the reality. These observations are getting REAL tired.
Not only is your notion of realistic comedy at best subjective but I
think you're just plain wrong in the first place. All the jokes on
the show come from specific cultural touchstones or stereotypes or ....
reality.
JT I think you ruffle a lot of feathers by not qualifying your statements
with "IMHO"'s or something equivalent. You present your opinions as
absolute facts which is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not suggesting you
change your style, I'm just commenting.
Vive la differance.
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