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Toilet-paper lady--Jamie Gertz-didn't she have AIDS?

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Jose Hulse

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Jan 9, 1994, 10:11:04 PM1/9/94
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That was Jamie Gertz? I thought she had gotten HIV, AIDS, and died.
Didn't they make some tv movie about the whole deal with Molly Ringwald
as Jamie?

BTW, does anyone remember a great film with Shelley Long and Jamie Gertz
in which Shelley Long's brother is supposed to be a recovering cancer patient
who has a terrible crush on the Jamie Gertz character. Of course, she
rejects him totally. Then he lets his sister make him over and he starts
dressing like a biker and wearing long hair (a wig), and calling himself
"Lobo", and she falls for him, not realizing who he really is. I wish I
could remember the name of this movie...

-Jose'
--
"Der Vogelfaenger bin ich ja, stets lustig, heissa, hoppsassa! Ich
Vogelfaenger bin bekannt, bei Alt und Jung im ganzen Land! -Papageno
in Mozart's _Die Zauberfloete_ (the Magic Flute) hul...@lclark.edu

Steph Gertz

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Jan 10, 1994, 12:30:19 AM1/10/94
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In article <1994Jan10.0...@lclark.edu>,

Jose Hulse <hul...@sun.lclark.edu> wrote:
>That was Jamie Gertz? I thought she had gotten HIV, AIDS, and died.
>Didn't they make some tv movie about the whole deal with Molly Ringwald
>as Jamie?
>
Alison Gertz had AIDS, she died away in august 1992. the tv movie was about
her.

- steph g.

David Savitt

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Jan 10, 1994, 2:17:48 AM1/10/94
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hul...@sun.lclark.edu (Jose Hulse) writes:

>BTW, does anyone remember a great film with Shelley Long and Jamie Gertz
>in which Shelley Long's brother is supposed to be a recovering cancer patient
>who has a terrible crush on the Jamie Gertz character. Of course, she
>rejects him totally. Then he lets his sister make him over and he starts
>dressing like a biker and wearing long hair (a wig), and calling himself
>"Lobo", and she falls for him, not realizing who he really is. I wish I
>could remember the name of this movie...

Is this "Don't tell her it's me", also starring Steve Gutenberg? I'm not
certain, because I "saw" it on an airplane, so I kinda watched it and kinda
didn't pay attention to it.

-Dave

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Julia Kingwell

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Jan 10, 1994, 10:26:16 AM1/10/94
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Yes, it was "Don't Tell Her It's Me" with Steve Gutenberg and Shelley Long.
Also, wasn't Jamie Gertz in the vampire movie with Keifer Sutherland--The Lost
Boys?

DANIEL BENJAMIN SALTZSTEIN

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Jan 10, 1994, 3:28:07 PM1/10/94
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Yes.

Heather Litwhiler x3319

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Jan 10, 1994, 5:15:48 PM1/10/94
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The movie that Jamie Gertz was in with Shelley Long was "Don't Tell Her It's Me". It had been made for HBO, I think. BTW, I thought that Jamie fit in great with the Seinfield crowd. She didn't just blend into the wallpaper like all of Jerry's other love interests.

Joshua B. Daniels

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Jan 10, 1994, 6:10:52 PM1/10/94
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NO, that tv movie wasn't about Jamie Gertz; it was about a young woman who
was not a movie star or actress who also had the last name Gertz.
I believe that her first name is Allie. I'm preet
I'm pretty sure she's still alive.
_Josh Daniels

Steph Gertz

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Jan 10, 1994, 6:19:58 PM1/10/94
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In article <1994Jan10.0...@amoco.com>,
Yes...

Steph Gertz

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Jan 10, 1994, 8:54:38 PM1/10/94
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In article <2gsn9s$f...@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,

Her name was alison (ali) gertz and she died in august 1991
- steph g.

David Gregory Platt

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Jan 10, 1994, 11:28:10 PM1/10/94
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In <2gsn9s$f...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dx...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joshua B. Daniels) writes:


>NO, that tv movie wasn't about Jamie Gertz; it was about a young woman who
>was not a movie star or actress who also had the last name Gertz.
>I believe that her first name is Allie. I'm preet

No, she died around 1991. It was Alison Gertz, and she was most well known
for being outspoken about women getting AIDS 9back when only gay men were
getting the disease)
Dave

Robert M Ettinger

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Jan 11, 1994, 12:28:41 PM1/11/94
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In article <2gt9sq$e...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,


David Gregory Platt <umpl...@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
>In <2gsn9s$f...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dx...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joshua B. Dan
iels) writes:
>
>

>>NO, that tv movie wasn't about Jamie Gertz; it was about a young woman who
>>was not a movie star or actress who also had the last name Gertz.
>>I believe that her first name is Allie. I'm preet

>No, she died around 1991. It was Alison Gertz, and she was most well known


>for being outspoken about women getting AIDS 9back when only gay men were
>getting the disease)


Sorry Dave. There was *never* a time when ONLY gay men were getting AIDS.
There was a time when media coverage and the public linked AIDS exclusively
with gay men. This, of course, is one of the reasons AIDS is rapidly growing
among the heterosexual community....they think they're immune!

Let's try and discontinue this mis-information. Most of America already seems
uneducated on the subject...let's not perpetuate false facts.

Bill Justice

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Jan 11, 1994, 12:38:09 PM1/11/94
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In article <CJEFA...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, sj...@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steph Gertz) writes:
> In article <1994Jan10.0...@lclark.edu>,
> Jose Hulse <hul...@sun.lclark.edu> wrote:
> >That was Jamie Gertz? I thought she had gotten HIV, AIDS, and died.
> >Didn't they make some tv movie about the whole deal with Molly Ringwald
> >as Jamie?
> >
> Alison Gertz had AIDS, she died away in august 1992. the tv movie was about
> her.
>
> - steph g.
>
> >BTW, does anyone remember a great film with Shelley Long and Jamie Gertz
> >in which Shelley Long's brother is supposed to be a recovering cancer patient
> >who has a terrible crush on the Jamie Gertz character. Of course, she
> >rejects him totally. Then he lets his sister make him over and he starts
> >dressing like a biker and wearing long hair (a wig), and calling himself
> >"Lobo", and she falls for him, not realizing who he really is. I wish I
> >could remember the name of this movie...
> >
> >-Jose'
> >--
> >"Der Vogelfaenger bin ich ja, stets lustig, heissa, hoppsassa! Ich
"Don't Tell Her Its Me." On HBO recently.(last week or two). Brother was
Steve Guttenburg(?).


> >Vogelfaenger bin bekannt, bei Alt und Jung im ganzen Land! -Papageno
> >in Mozart's _Die Zauberfloete_ (the Magic Flute) hul...@lclark.edu
>
>

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David Gregory Platt

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Jan 11, 1994, 3:04:13 PM1/11/94
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In <2gunk9$c...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rett...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert M Ettinger) writes:
>Sorry Dave. There was *never* a time when ONLY gay men were getting AIDS.
>There was a time when media coverage and the public linked AIDS exclusively
>with gay men. This, of course, is one of the reasons AIDS is rapidly growing
>among the heterosexual community....they think they're immune!

>Let's try and discontinue this mis-information. Most of America already seems
>uneducated on the subject...let's not perpetuate false facts.

Fine. I *knew* somebody would comment on this. Of course I meant that not
ONLY gay men were getting the disease. I probably should have said "the
perception was that, in North America, that primarily gay men got AIDS."
The point was that ALison Gertz was probably the first woman to come out
and say that she had AIDS, thus ruining the common perception.
Okay?
Dave

Robert M Ettinger

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Jan 11, 1994, 5:13:06 PM1/11/94
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In article <2gv0nt$2...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,


David Gregory Platt <umpl...@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:


>Fine. I *knew* somebody would comment on this. Of course I meant that not
>ONLY gay men were getting the disease. I probably should have said "the
>perception was that, in North America, that primarily gay men got AIDS."
>The point was that ALison Gertz was probably the first woman to come out
>and say that she had AIDS, thus ruining the common perception.
>Okay?

Hey Dave, I wasn't flaming...I'm just trying to point out a few *major*
misconceptions. Your reply above says..."I knew..." and "I meant..." and "I
probably...". Like I was saying...most of America can't read into the text or
between the lines. It's because people are lax about giving *complete*
information is the reason there is so much WRONG information.

You are correct. Alison Gertz did a wonderful job admitting to and openly
discussing her disease and trying to educate the public.

Steph Gertz

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Jan 11, 1994, 5:25:19 PM1/11/94
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In article <2gv0nt$2...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,

David Gregory Platt <umpl...@cc.umanitoba.ca> wrote:

she was hardly the first, but she was able to capture the public's
(and the media's) attention because she was so 'safe' she could be
the girl next door, white heterosexual and upper-middle class, not to mention
young. she was infected when she was 16, but not diagnosed until 23
everyone's made mistakes when they were 16, so it seemed
particularly tragic that a woman died when she was 26 just because of a one-
night stand 10 years earlier...

- steph g.


David Gregory Platt

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Jan 11, 1994, 10:10:34 PM1/11/94
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>misconceptions. Your reply above says..."I knew..." and "I meant..." and "I
>probably...". Like I was saying...most of America can't read into the text or
>between the lines. It's because people are lax about giving *complete*
>information is the reason there is so much WRONG information.

That's a problem with me and the internet... I reply before I can think of
the exact words.

>You are correct. Alison Gertz did a wonderful job admitting to and openly
>discussing her disease and trying to educate the public.

I think we can all agree on that. Now back to Seinfeld.
Dave

Karyn M Peiser

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Jan 14, 1994, 1:14:18 PM1/14/94
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The movie with Shelley Long, Steve Gutenberg and Jamie Gertz was "Don't
Tell Her It's Me". That was one of the most stupid movies I have ever seen.

Karyn

edward pond

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Jan 14, 1994, 4:40:03 PM1/14/94
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E-mail, guys! C'mon. Use it.

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