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mitchel...@yahoo.com

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Jul 6, 2007, 3:05:04 AM7/6/07
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I need the help of a true Siefeld fan. Can someone please tell me
which episodes Crazy Joe DeVola appeared in? Which season did he
first appear?

Crazy Joe seems to be a truly dangerous psychoic of the "Taxi Driver"
variety. In my favorite episode he's dressed up like a clown and
beats up three guys in the park who tease him. I think it's this same
episode where he holds his and over a candle flame. I thought the
writing may have crossed the line with this little stunt. It's psycho
stuff and not comedy anymore. But I guess they wanted to show us just
how crazy Joe was.

Thanks for the help on the episodes.

OscartheGrouch

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Jul 6, 2007, 5:03:44 AM7/6/07
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<mitchel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think it was season 3. It's the season where the main story arc is the
creation of the show "Jerry" by NBC. I *think* we first see him when Elaine
is outside a movie theatre singing something and J.D. comes along singing
the same thing or something like that. She falls for him. The last we see of
him is the final episode of the season where they are filming the show
finally and he jumps out of the audience towards the cast yelling something
crazy. He was in some other episodes, all in that one season.


Count...@monsterchillerhorrortheater.com

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Jul 6, 2007, 10:31:53 AM7/6/07
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He yells,"Sic Temper Tyrannus" the same line that John Wilkes Boothe
said after shooting Lincoln and jumping into the audience. I think it
means something like, "so always with tyrants", sorry, my high school
Latin is rusty.


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lugnut

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Jul 6, 2007, 10:56:11 AM7/6/07
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:31:53 GMT,
<Count...@MonsterChillerHorrorTheater.com> wrote:


>>
>> I think it was season 3. It's the season where the main story arc is the
>> creation of the show "Jerry" by NBC. I *think* we first see him when Elaine
>> is outside a movie theatre singing something and J.D. comes along singing
>> the same thing or something like that. She falls for him. The last we see of
>> him is the final episode of the season where they are filming the show
>> finally and he jumps out of the audience towards the cast yelling something
>> crazy. He was in some other episodes, all in that one season.
>
>He yells,"Sic Temper Tyrannus" the same line that John Wilkes Boothe
>said after shooting Lincoln and jumping into the audience. I think it
>means something like, "so always with tyrants", sorry, my high school
>Latin is rusty.

I believe it was "sic semper." I think somewhere after that back at
the apartment, George asks Jerry what it meant and Jerry defines it as
"death to tyrants." To which George responded, "I can see that."

-lugnut

Mark Mellin

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Jul 6, 2007, 11:41:02 AM7/6/07
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In article <Qznji.7787$4e5.1145@trndny07>,
"OscartheGrouch" wrote:
> mitchell_leary wrote ...

> >
> >I need the help of a true Siefeld fan. Can someone please tell me
> > which episodes Crazy Joe DeVola appeared in? Which season did he
> > first appear?
> >
> > Crazy Joe seems to be a truly dangerous psychoic of the "Taxi Driver"
> > variety. In my favorite episode he's dressed up like a clown and
> > beats up three guys in the park who tease him. I think it's this same
> > episode where he holds his and over a candle flame. I thought the
> > writing may have crossed the line with this little stunt. It's psycho
> > stuff and not comedy anymore. But I guess they wanted to show us just
> > how crazy Joe was.
> >
> > Thanks for the help on the episodes.
>
> I think it was season 3. It's the season where the main story arc is the
> creation of the show "Jerry" by NBC.

Close, that was season 4. From the imdb entry on the actor,
Peter Crombie, <http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0188598/>, they list:

"Seinfeld" .... 'Crazy' Joe Davola (4 episodes, 1992-1993)
- The Pilot (1993) TV Episode .... 'Crazy' Joe Davola
- The Opera (1992) TV Episode .... 'Crazy' Joe Davola
- The Watch (1992) TV Episode .... 'Crazy' Joe Davola
- The Pitch (1992) TV Episode .... 'Crazy' Joe Davola

> I *think* we first see him when Elaine
> is outside a movie theatre singing something and J.D. comes along singing
> the same thing or something like that.

The first sighting is in The Pitch, when Dr. Svenjolly, on a European
vacation with Elaine, worries that his patient, Joe, is off his meds.
Jerry and Joe run into each other at NBC, and Joe becomes quite agitated
when he realizes he hasn't been invited to a party of Kramer's.
Elaine and Joe first meet outside of the doctor's office, in the
_Side by Side_ singing scene you mention, unaware that they share the
same shrink.

- Mark

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Mailstop 408-85 Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 USA

Count...@monsterchillerhorrortheater.com

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Jul 6, 2007, 12:40:37 PM7/6/07
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:56:11 UTC, lug...@NOSPAMhotmail.com (lugnut)
wrote:

Lugnut,
"sic semper" is correct, Semper Fi, always faithful, but you have to
have the word "tyrannus" in there to have tyrant. I didn't check
Google for the exact wording, but it was close.

Mark Mellin

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Jul 7, 2007, 12:30:23 AM7/7/07
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In article <1183705504....@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

mitchell_leary wrote:
>
> Crazy Joe seems to be a truly dangerous psychoic of the "Taxi Driver"
> variety. In my favorite episode he's dressed up like a clown and
> beats up three guys in the park who tease him.

"Make me laugh, clown!"

That is indeed a great scene, where he takes out all three thugs.

Mind you, Joe isn't dressed up just as any clown, he's dressed as the
clown Pagliaccio, from the Leoncavallo opera that George and Kramer
are trying to scalp tickets for. Earlier in the episode, Joe refers
to Elaine as "Nedda", the woman slain in the opera by the jealous clown.



> Thanks for the help on the episodes.

You're welcome (even if they were listed in reverse order).

- Mark "maybe you knew all this already, apologies if so..." Mellin

ObFunFact? Nedda's paramour is named Silvio.

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Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA

Dimitrios Paskoudniakis

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Jul 7, 2007, 10:04:34 AM7/7/07
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"Mark Mellin" <markm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> In article <1183705504....@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> mitchell_leary wrote:
>>
>> Crazy Joe seems to be a truly dangerous psychoic of the "Taxi Driver"
>> variety. In my favorite episode he's dressed up like a clown and
>> beats up three guys in the park who tease him.
>
> "Make me laugh, clown!"
>
> That is indeed a great scene, where he takes out all three thugs.
>
> Mind you, Joe isn't dressed up just as any clown, he's dressed as the
> clown Pagliaccio

Isn't that "Pagliacci" (no "o")?


Mark Mellin

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Jul 7, 2007, 11:59:09 AM7/7/07
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In article <aoednYbXl7v...@comcast.com>,
"Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote:
> "Mark Mellin" wrote ...

> > mitchell_leary wrote:
> >>
> >> Crazy Joe seems to be a truly dangerous psychoic of the "Taxi Driver"
> >> variety. In my favorite episode he's dressed up like a clown and
> >> beats up three guys in the park who tease him.
> >
> > "Make me laugh, clown!"
> >
> > That is indeed a great scene, where he takes out all three thugs.
> >
> > Mind you, Joe isn't dressed up just as any clown, he's dressed as the
> > clown Pagliaccio
>
> Isn't that "Pagliacci" (no "o")?

I was wondering about that, too. Pagliacci, the opera's title, is
the plural, if wikipedia is to be trusted. I did manage to mix up the
character names between the opera and the play within the opera, though.

from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci>:

Roles
The main characters are actors in a travelling commedia dell'Arte troupe.
* Canio, head of the troupe; Pagliaccio in the play (tenor)
* Nedda, Canio's wife; Colombina in the play (soprano)
* Tonio, the fool; Taddeo in the play (baritone)
* Beppe, actor; Arlecchino in the play (tenor)
* Silvio, a villager (baritone)
* Chorus of villagers

- Mark "that is one angry clown!" Mellin

ObSeinfeldTrivia: At work we were trying to determine how many different
apartments Elaine lived in. We came up with three, does that sound right?

Dimitrios Paskoudniakis

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Jul 7, 2007, 8:34:22 PM7/7/07
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"Mark Mellin" <markm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Wow - didn't know that. Thanks.

Also, in "The Maestro", the man Poppie refers Jerry to in order to rent a
villa in Tuscany is properly spelled "Ciccio". However, in most Seinfeld
sites, I see it misspelled as "Giggio". Even in the actor Paul Michael's
imdb database entry - Giggio. I don't understand. He and Jerry both
pronounce the name CHEE chee o, which is properly spelled "Ciccio" in
Italian. In Italian, "Giggio" is pronounced JEE jee o.

Does anyone know how the actual episode end credits spell it?


TheNewsGuy(Mike)

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Jul 9, 2007, 6:41:26 AM7/9/07
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Dimitrios Paskoudniakis wrote:
> ...

>>>>> Crazy Joe seems to be a truly dangerous psychoic of the "Taxi Driver"
>...

The real Joe Davola was an executive producer in television and was
bugging Jerry and Larry to name a character after him - so they wanted
to piss him off and made him "Crazy Joe"

Last year, when visiting LA we took the Warner Brothers Studio tour. We
toured sets, sound stages, watched ER being filmed,etc. then on the way
back drove through the executive parking lot where I got really excited
because there was a spot reserved for Joe Davola. I requested we stop
for a photo op but the tour guide had no idea why I wanted a picture of
a parking curb - so he drove on. LOL!

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TheNewsGuy(Mike)

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Jul 20, 2007, 8:11:53 PM7/20/07
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Mark Mellin wrote:
>

Hey, Mark, that was me waving at you on Sunday from the 101. We flew
into San Francisco for a wedding in Mountain View.

As soon as I saw the San Mateo sign, I said "Hey, I know who lives
here." Nobody else in the car knew who you were. LOL


TheNewsGuy(Mike)

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Jul 20, 2007, 8:13:49 PM7/20/07
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Mark Mellin wrote:
> ...

> ObSeinfeldTrivia: At work we were trying to determine how many different
> apartments Elaine lived in. We came up with three, does that sound right?
>

Does that include her stay at Jerry's?

KarenCannoli

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Jul 20, 2007, 11:52:29 PM7/20/07
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"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" <tnguym...@yaho.com> wrote in message
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Didja see the San Jose sign? You didn't?

You still say HELLO!


Mark Mellin

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Jul 24, 2007, 11:35:34 PM7/24/07
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In article <a1e7f$46a14f50$cf7067eb$16...@PRIMUS.CA>,
"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:
>
> Hey, Mark, that was me waving at you on Sunday from the 101.

Um, was that a wave of "Hi", or were you merely sending your regards?

> As soon as I saw the San Mateo sign, I said "Hey, I know who lives
> here." Nobody else in the car knew who you were. LOL

Such is the notoriety of Usenet. You aren't the only famous person
to have travelled on U.S. 101, however. From a local land developer's
website:

"[...] a scrapbook that documents the development of Los Prados.
In it are pictures of a Highway 101 billboard that his father rented,
during Prime Minister Khrushchevs visit to the Bay Area in the early
60s. The billboard, located at the Hillsdale Blvd. exit, said in
Russian: 'Welcome To America, Every person in this new Los Prados
neighborhood is a free, happy homeowner.' Khrushchev and his entourage,
en route to San Jose, stopped to read the message ...."

Afterwards, he no doubt returned to his book, "War--What Is It Good For?"

Hope you had a great visit, Mike.

- Mark

Mark Mellin

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Jul 25, 2007, 3:46:37 AM7/25/07
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In article <251e8$46a14fc4$cf7067eb$16...@PRIMUS.CA>,

Heh, no, we forgot about that aspect of The Deal.

Here's what we came up with:

1) Shared apartment with Tina (at least until season 2's The Deal)

2) Living room scenes with Audrey (season 3's The Nose Job) and Jerry
and George (season 3's The Keys)

We presume this apartment has the same kitchen that is being
painted as she tries to convince Cynthia of George's appeal
in season 3's The Fix Up and also features Jake Jarmel's poor note
taking abilities in season 5's The Sniffing Accountant.

3) A different living room appears in The Sponge, and in the scenes
with Puddy, Newman (noting the out of place wicker), the
communist, and the chap who lost his hair over a late Nicole
Miller dress.

- Mark

Mark Mellin

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Jul 25, 2007, 12:50:04 PM7/25/07
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In article
<markmellin-F9B16...@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,

Mark Mellin> wrote:
> "TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:
> > Mark Mellin wrote:
> > > ...
> > > ObSeinfeldTrivia: At work we were trying to determine how many different
> > > apartments Elaine lived in. We came up with three, does that sound right?
> >
> > Does that include her stay at Jerry's?
>
> Heh, no, we forgot about that aspect of The Deal.

We also forgot about her weekend stay at Jerry's in The Robbery.

- Mark "What's the rent?" Mellin

ObScriptCorrection:

vi Scripts/TheRobbery.html
:1,$ s/Island/Iceland/
:wq

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