Elaine's Vegetarianism?
kpandya
Speaking of inconsistencies, this one is pretty blatant: in Episode 27,
"The Stranded," where Elaine has that argument with George's fur-sporting
inamorata, she announces that she is, indeed, a vegetarian. But we all
know she's not averse to eating our feathered friends--watch her drooling
for Poppie's duck, ("I love duck!" The Couch), or inhaling chicken
infested with poppy seeds, ("just pick a glass, Mrs. Seinfeld, pick a
glass!"), and even eyeing a Monk's turkey club after being the target of
racism, (The Wizard). Perhaps birds aren't "meat" for our little Lainey.
Alright Sir, what about the way she readily devoured Holly's mutton,
("Thanks for Mutton!")? Indeed, her diet consists exclusively of a wide
assortment of thinly sliced meats when she's trapped in her apartment,
(The Slicer) and thus completely dependent upon Kramer's latest brain
child.
Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
("Is it possible I'm not as attractive as I think I am?"
"Anything's possible.")
Sydney.
Frederick J. Barnett
kpandya wrote:
<snip>
> Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
> from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
>
vegggie. I first thought this in the episode where Kramer had the
fighting cock (rooster) and she not only went to the fight, but never
said a word against it. Not something you'd expect from a veggie. Note
also that by the time Puddy had his fur coat, she didn't care about
that either ("Who has the time anymore?")
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kpandya
> Note also that by the time Puddy had his fur coat, she didn't care about
> that either ("Who has the time anymore?")
A most sponge-worthy observation, Frederick. Thank you.
Sydney.
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In article <3587DB85...@eatel.net>,
"Frederick J. Barnett" <fr...@eatel.net> wrote:
>
> kpandya wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
> > from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
> >
> Of course another possibility is that she simply stopped being a
> vegggie. I first thought this in the episode where Kramer had the
> fighting cock (rooster) and she not only went to the fight, but never
> also that by the time Puddy had his fur coat, she didn't care about
> that either ("Who has the time anymore?")
>
> Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
> E-mail: fr...@eatel.net
> Governing Board Member, HTML Writers Guild http://www.hwg.org/
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> http://www.eatel.net/~fred/bras/bras.html
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> http://www.phys.lsu.edu/observatory/
> "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get
> done!! Do you think that's easy?!?" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of
> Navarone.
>
My guess is she lied. The characters on this show have been known to do that.
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>>
>
>My guess is she lied. The characters on this show have been known to do
that.
>
\My guess id it's just an inconsistency of the show included because it fit
the current episode. (Take Kramer's abthing habits for example: He gets
asked something about taking showers and replies "I only take baths" but in
later episodes there is the low water pressure episode and the making salad
in the shower episode.)
Whatever works for the episode at hand. They aren't real people, they don't
have to be consistent.
Miller
Actually, it was a muffin that was infested with poppy seeds.
kpandya wrote in message <6m8jr8$k13$2...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>...
>
>Speaking of inconsistencies, this one is pretty blatant: in Episode 27,
>"The Stranded," where Elaine has that argument with George's fur-sporting
>inamorata, she announces that she is, indeed, a vegetarian. But we all
>know she's not averse to eating our feathered friends--watch her drooling
>for Poppie's duck, ("I love duck!" The Couch), or inhaling chicken
>infested with poppy seeds, ("just pick a glass, Mrs. Seinfeld, pick a
>glass!"), and even eyeing a Monk's turkey club after being the target of
>racism, (The Wizard). Perhaps birds aren't "meat" for our little Lainey.
>
>Alright Sir, what about the way she readily devoured Holly's mutton,
>("Thanks for Mutton!")? Indeed, her diet consists exclusively of a wide
>assortment of thinly sliced meats when she's trapped in her apartment,
>(The Slicer) and thus completely dependent upon Kramer's latest brain
>child.
>
>Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
>from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
>
phili...@worldnet.att.net
Actually, it was a muffin and chicken, both infested with poppy seeds.
Rick Streeter
First it was muffins but then it was the chicken from Jerry's dressing
room............
Miller wrote:
>
> Actually, it was a muffin that was infested with poppy seeds.
>
> kpandya wrote in message <6m8jr8$k13$2...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>...
> >
> >Speaking of inconsistencies, this one is pretty blatant: in Episode 27,
> >"The Stranded," where Elaine has that argument with George's fur-sporting
> >inamorata, she announces that she is, indeed, a vegetarian. But we all
> >know she's not averse to eating our feathered friends--watch her drooling
> >for Poppie's duck, ("I love duck!" The Couch), or inhaling chicken
> >infested with poppy seeds, ("just pick a glass, Mrs. Seinfeld, pick a
> >glass!"),
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Dave
Miller wrote:
>
> Actually, it was a muffin that was infested with poppy seeds.
Ys, but she also ate a piece of chicken with poppy seeds on it. If I'm
not mistaken, Kramer offered it to her.
>
> kpandya wrote in message <6m8jr8$k13$2...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>...
> >
> >Speaking of inconsistencies, this one is pretty blatant: in Episode 27,
> >"The Stranded," where Elaine has that argument with George's fur-sporting
> >inamorata, she announces that she is, indeed, a vegetarian. But we all
> >know she's not averse to eating our feathered friends--watch her drooling
> >for Poppie's duck, ("I love duck!" The Couch), or inhaling chicken
> >infested with poppy seeds, ("just pick a glass, Mrs. Seinfeld, pick a
> >glass!"), and even eyeing a Monk's turkey club after being the target of
> >racism, (The Wizard). Perhaps birds aren't "meat" for our little Lainey.
Well, they aren't "red meat" anyway. Some people avoid red meat for
health reasons. This I can understand. it's the ones who won't eat
meat because of the "poor little animals that have to die" that I find
to be a mystery.
> >
> >Alright Sir, what about the way she readily devoured Holly's mutton,
> >("Thanks for Mutton!")? Indeed, her diet consists exclusively of a wide
> >assortment of thinly sliced meats when she's trapped in her apartment,
> >(The Slicer) and thus completely dependent upon Kramer's latest brain
> >child.
Wide assortment? Remind me never to visit your deli.
> >
> >Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
> >from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
> >
Huh? Oh. Yeah. The "age old fur-lover's trump card"? Huh?
I doubt it. It seems that Elaine ate meat when there was no
alternative. Even vegetarians, when faced with the choice of eating
meat or starving, will choose to eat the meat.
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Dave wrote:
[snip]<
<
> > >Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
> > >from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
> > >
>
> Huh? Oh. Yeah. The "age old fur-lover's trump card"? Huh?<<
> I doubt it. It seems that Elaine ate meat when there was no
> alternative. Even vegetarians, when faced with the choice of eating
> meat or starving, will choose to eat the meat.
> In the Slicer, maybe ... but she was starving when she ate the Mutton
or had the turkey club or ordered the Peking Duck or ate kramer's
poppy-chicken?<
I don't think so.<
Single White Male
> >
> >Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
> >from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
> >
>
really wanted to lie in order to justify her argument, she would have
claimed to be a pure vegan instead of trapping herself by mentioning fish.
>
>
"Early to rise, early to bed makes a man healthy but socially dead."
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Pillutla, Ramesh & Carolyne
Wasn't the running joke while Elaine was dating Puddy that he only took
her to eat at Arby's? Not too many veggie dishes there, unless she only
curly fries...
A lurker
phili...@worldnet.att.net
Dave <rat...@icanect.net> writes: > Miller wrote:
> I doubt it. It seems that Elaine ate meat when there was no
> alternative. Even vegetarians, when faced with the choice of eating
> meat or starving, will choose to eat the meat.
Ya, sure, if the choice is actual starvation or eating meat the choice is
obvious. But since when has someone in the middle of NYC faced that choice.
I think that Elaine--if a true vegatarian--always had a choice..stay hungry
and eat later or find something else. I don't think the show portrayed
her as only eating meat when there was no alternative. And I think for a
true vegetarian there is always an alternative. I'm not a veggie, though,
so I don't know. Any of "you people" care to take a crack at it? (I know,
that's just inviting trolling fake vegetarians.)
Brantley30
>Wasn't the running joke while Elaine was dating Puddy that he only took
>her to eat at Arby's? Not too many veggie dishes there, unless she only
>curly fries...
Actually, that's a good point . . . in "The Auto Dealership," when discussing
their "celebration dinner" at Arby's, Elaine specifically said, "I had the
roast beef."
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kpandya
> >It's possible, but then why would she say that she ate fish? If she
> really wanted to lie in order to justify her argument, she would have
> claimed to be a pure vegan instead of trapping herself by mentioning fish.
Single White Male, you magnificent bastard! Excellent point. Quite Jackie
Chiles-esque of you to notice this potential weakness in her position.
Sydney.
Dahan
Dave wrote in message <358910...@icanect.net>...
>Well, they aren't "red meat" anyway. Some people avoid red meat for
>health reasons. This I can understand. it's the ones who won't eat
>meat because of the "poor little animals that have to die" that I find
>to be a mystery.
>
Well, that explains the way you treat people. Don't you believe in every
creature's right, from the moment it is born, to live? I mean, you wouldn't
eat David H, would you (I hope I'm right)? So why would you eat a cow that
hasn't done anything wrong except being tastey? Veggies prove the "survive"
theory is redicules. They are usually healthier than non-veggies.
WTP
"Dahan" <dah...@netvision.net.il> wrote:
>Well, that explains the way you treat people. Don't you believe in every
>creature's right, from the moment it is born, to live? I mean, you wouldn't
>eat David H, would you (I hope I'm right)? So why would you eat a cow that
>hasn't done anything wrong except being tastey? Veggies prove the "survive"
>theory is redicules. They are usually healthier than non-veggies.
Beautifully said!
And, additionally, it's quite possible that over 9 years Elaine's
lifestyle might have changed, right? I mean I was a vegan for three
years, but I gave that up for various reasons. Elaine Benes, the
character, can certainly be a veggie in one episode and then eat a big
roast beef samwich a few years down the road!
Cheers,
WT
Dave
John Ford wrote:
>
> Dave wrote:
>
> [snip]<
> <
> > > >Is it possible that Elaine lied about her vegetarianism to save herself
> > > >from the age-old fur-lover's trump card?
> > > >
> >
> > alternative. Even vegetarians, when faced with the choice of eating
> > meat or starving, will choose to eat the meat.
> or had the turkey club or ordered the Peking Duck or ate kramer's
> poppy-chicken?<
> I don't think so.<
Again, has the distinction been made between 'meat' and 'poultry'?
Dave
Dahan wrote:
>
> Dave wrote in message <358910...@icanect.net>...
> >Well, they aren't "red meat" anyway. Some people avoid red meat for
> >health reasons. This I can understand. it's the ones who won't eat
> >meat because of the "poor little animals that have to die" that I find
> >to be a mystery.
> >
>
The way I treat people? I'm sorry. Do you know me? What do you know
about the way I treat people?
> Don't you believe in every
> creature's right, from the moment it is born, to live?
I believe that man has the right to 'utilize' whatever he finds on this
planet. I do not believe the lesser creatures have the same rights as
mankind. I suppose if a chicken has a consciousness or awareness, and
is able to communicate this to people, then the situation may be
different.
I mean, you wouldn't
> eat David H, would you (I hope I'm right)? So why would you eat a cow that
> hasn't done anything wrong except being tastey?
I suppose that sin alone is what makes the cow become food. If we
weren't meant to eat them, they wouldn't taste so good. Natural
selection.
> Veggies prove the "survive"
> theory is redicules. They are usually healthier than non-veggies.
Whatever. Take a look at the teeth in your mouth, then come back here
and tell me if human's were meant to be meat eaters or not.
zupm...@my-dejanews.com
wt...@yahoo.com wrote:
> And, additionally, it's quite possible that over 9 years Elaine's
> lifestyle might have changed, right? I mean I was a vegan for three
> years, but I gave that up for various reasons. Elaine Benes, the
> character, can certainly be a veggie in one episode and then eat a big
> roast beef samwich a few years down the road!
>
> Cheers,
> WT
>
And what reasons were those, may I ask? If it was because you cared
about animals that seems a bit flaky to just abandon your principles and
increase the demand by an additional mouth for leading animals to the
slaughterhouse where they are murdered(?). If it is for health reasons
then what new facts did you learn to change your mind. I suppose it is
possible you have anemia and the doctor prescribed meat. Just wondering...
Regards
Zup
WTP
zupm...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>And what reasons were those, may I ask? If it was because you cared
>about animals that seems a bit flaky to just abandon your principles and
>increase the demand by an additional mouth for leading animals to the
>slaughterhouse where they are murdered(?). If it is for health reasons
>then what new facts did you learn to change your mind. I suppose it is
>possible you have anemia and the doctor prescribed meat. Just wondering...
Oh, I'm sorry. I left a word out of my post. I meant to say
"personal reasons."
Thanks for writing.
WT
WTP
Dave <rat...@icanect.net> wrote:
>I believe that man has the right to 'utilize' whatever he finds on this
>planet. I do not believe the lesser creatures have the same rights as
>mankind.]
By lesser creatures are you talking AOL and WebTV? Some of them have
teeth, too, I suppose, but no opposable thumbs.
Cheers,
WT
Brantley30
Actually, if I were hungry enough, I believe I WOULD consume DAVIDH (**888*).
And I've yet to meet a long term surviving vegan. Everyone goes through the
requisite freshman year of college
anti-everything-our-parents-taught/us-fuck-the-establishment phase, and you
know what? Reason reigns and we get over it and get a real cause. I'd love to
video these fur-and-meat protests and show them to the demonstrators in 5
years. I'd be in horror if someone did that to me.
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zupm...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> wt...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > And, additionally, it's quite possible that over 9 years Elaine's
> > lifestyle might have changed, right? I mean I was a vegan for three
> > years, but I gave that up for various reasons. Elaine Benes, the
> > character, can certainly be a veggie in one episode and then eat a big
> > roast beef samwich a few years down the road!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > WT
> >
>
> about animals that seems a bit flaky to just abandon your principles and
> increase the demand by an additional mouth for leading animals to the
> slaughterhouse where they are murdered(?). If it is for health reasons
> then what new facts did you learn to change your mind. I suppose it is
> possible you have anemia and the doctor prescribed meat. Just wondering...
>
No, you're not 'just wondering'. if you were just wondering, you
wouldn't have used the words slaughter and murder. You have your own
little not-so-hidden agenda there, don't you?
You eat what you want, I'll eat what I want. Why does that have to be
so hard?
phili...@worldnet.att.net
Dave <rat...@icanect.net> writes:
> > wt...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > And, additionally, it's quite possible that over 9 years Elaine's
> > > lifestyle might have changed, right? I mean I was a vegan for three
> > > years, but I gave that up for various reasons. Elaine Benes, the
> > > character, can certainly be a veggie in one episode and then eat a big
> > > roast beef samwich a few years down the road!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > WT
> > >
> >
> > And what reasons were those, may I ask? If it was because you cared
> > about animals that seems a bit flaky to just abandon your principles and
> > increase the demand by an additional mouth for leading animals to the
> > slaughterhouse where they are murdered(?). If it is for health reasons
> > then what new facts did you learn to change your mind. I suppose it is
> > possible you have anemia and the doctor prescribed meat. Just wondering...
> >
>
> No, you're not 'just wondering'. if you were just wondering, you
> wouldn't have used the words slaughter and murder. You have your own
> little not-so-hidden agenda there, don't you?
>
> You eat what you want, I'll eat what I want. Why does that have to be
> so hard?
FYI, I was "just wondering" how a vegan could abandon their principles
if they truly believed in what they were doing. The words "slaughter" and
"murder" were used (notice there was a "?" after "murder") because those
were words I figured a former vegan could identify with. I have no "not-
so-hidden agenda"--my only agenda was to become enlightened as to how a
vegan decided to take his place back in the realm of omnivores. I do eat
what I want and that includes lots of foods that were formerly breathing.
WTP
Dave <rat...@icanect.net> wrote:
>No, you're not 'just wondering'. if you were just wondering, you
>wouldn't have used the words slaughter and murder. You have your own
>little not-so-hidden agenda there, don't you?
ratboy, you see through them don't ya! YOU THE MAN!
WT
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How about the Toy collectors turkey that put her to sleep?
Robyn
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And what reasons were those, may I ask? If it was because you cared
> > > about animals that seems a bit flaky to just abandon your principles
and
> > > increase the demand by an additional mouth for leading animals to the
> > > slaughterhouse where they are murdered(?). If it is for health
reasons
> > > then what new facts did you learn to change your mind. I suppose it
is
> > > possible you have anemia and the doctor prescribed meat. Just
wondering...
> > >
> >
> > No, you're not 'just wondering'. if you were just wondering, you
> > wouldn't have used the words slaughter and murder. You have your own
> > little not-so-hidden agenda there, don't you?
> >
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