Hey pal!
I got two words for ya!
Lou and Zher. Put em together.
JOOKY!
: It's now clear to me what NBC is doing: Jamming extra commercial time
: WITHIN their hottest show w/o violating FCC rules on total commercial time
: per hour!
I noticed this as well. How do you guage your time like 8:59:00? What clock
do you use to set it yours by? To me it seemed like the show last night
started around 8:58 or so.
It makes sense for NBC to do this as they can garner a *lot* more money for
ads placed in Seinfeld than in their other Sitcoms.
Matt
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Alex Andreadis <ndreadi...@erols.com> wrote:
>Anal Update:
>"The Serenity Now" started at exactly 8:59 pm est. The week before, it was
>8:59:30. The overall net length of these shows were the usual 22:35
>plus/minus a few seconds.
>It's now clear to me what NBC is doing: Jamming extra commercial time
>WITHIN their hottest show w/o violating FCC rules on total commercial time
>per hour!
>In fact, I've verified that the center commercial block last night was 1
> <<< yada, yada, yada......>>>
This will give my enemies still more ammunition about my anal, overly
observant quirks -- but I can take it, so here goes:
I use synchronization software on my PC to call THE atomic clock at the
National Institute of Science and Technology in Boulder, Colorado every
Saturday night. (I have a life, it only takes 30 seconds to do this.)
Software will display the exact time on my screen to within the
resolution of the PCs internal system timer, roughly .055 seconds! It
even accounts for modem latency and tests for signal delay over the
distance of the phone lines. I know that my wristwatch is about 1
second a week slow, so Every Saturday, I set my wristwatch 1/2 of a
second ahead, thereby minimizing average error on a random day of the
week. Of course, at some magical time during Wednesday morning, I am,
in essence, wearing a "virtual duplicate" of the Atomic Clock! Most
people call Wednesday "hump day", I call it "the timekeeping sweet
spot".
I have won MANY bets on who's watch is closer to exact time ($100 the
biggest), my only stipulation on how to settle the bet: we use the
median error of each watch according to the phone time service in 7
different states, since some of them can be a "few" seconds off. (They
are obviously not as careful as I am, even though they bill themselves
as the "exact time".)
So, the 10/9/97 "Seinfeld" started at 8:59:00, not 8:59:01, and not
8:58:59!
Remember, Matthew, YOU ASKED!
And to all other readers, sorry, but HE ASKED.
Frank
Jooky! <Jo...@hotmail.com> wrote in article <343EBE...@hotmail.com>...
> Alex Andreadis wrote:
> >
> > Anal Update:
> >
> > "The Serenity Now" started at exactly 8:59 pm est. The week before, it
was
> > 8:59:30. The overall net length of these shows were the usual 22:35
> > plus/minus a few seconds.
> >
> > It's now clear to me what NBC is doing: Jamming extra commercial time
> > WITHIN their hottest show w/o violating FCC rules on total commercial
time
> > per hour!
> >
> > In fact, I've verified that the center commercial block last night was
1
> > minute longer.
> >
> > The Anal Retentive Video Librarian
>
: I use synchronization software on my PC to call THE atomic clock at the
: National Institute of Science and Technology in Boulder, Colorado every
: Saturday night. (I have a life, it only takes 30 seconds to do this.)
: Software will display the exact time on my screen to within the
: resolution of the PCs internal system timer, roughly .055 seconds! It
: even accounts for modem latency and tests for signal delay over the
: distance of the phone lines. I know that my wristwatch is about 1
: second a week slow, so Every Saturday, I set my wristwatch 1/2 of a
: second ahead, thereby minimizing average error on a random day of the
: week. Of course, at some magical time during Wednesday morning, I am,
: in essence, wearing a "virtual duplicate" of the Atomic Clock! Most
: people call Wednesday "hump day", I call it "the timekeeping sweet
: spot".
: Remember, Matthew, YOU ASKED!
Actually, you are continually rising on my coolness meter. This is the type
of behavior I think we need more of in the world today.
I think I will start doing the same.
: What nice posts! Keep up the good writing and pleasant tone, please.
: Others could learn from you. And you both made me laugh.
It's too bad that just a few (I think we know who) users can ruin a great
group. However, there are still a few quality posters. One thing I wish
people would learn is that some people (I won't name names, but his initials
are Justin Tribble) are obviously trollers. Instead of just letting people
post nice things about episodes, he has to reply to every nice post saying he
hates the show now. People need to learn the best way to handle someone like
this is to completely ignore them (ie. killfile, as many have hopefully
done). I admit I don't even really like objective crticism, but it is
accepted since the author obviously has thought about it. Trollers don't
care and only wish to a) get you to argue with them or b) waste your time.
When you reply, even with something like "Please Stop", then you include
what he has posted and it gets by my killfile, thus making me have to read
his (and others') nonsense and fulfilling their need for recognition (hint
hint ratboy. Although I understand your anger, it doesn't help to reply).
Take care Liz and keep trying to put people in line, so we can have
excellent conversations about Seinfeld. Posts such as "Quote of the Day"
and others are definite highlights which keep me flippin' through the ng
despite the large noise to signal ratio. That, and the fact I can still get
questions about episodes and such answered here.
Matt
Pffft. What a crappy system. My Unix boxes sync up the time with the
atomic clock ever 30 minutes automatically.
Why do you have to do it manually every week? That really sucks.
Daniel
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I chose bitter.
On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Michael wrote:
> I work in TV . . . and i will tell you that there is no rule on
> commercial time any more . . .
> the show is 22 min. 34 sec. . . until Jerry thinks it needs to be
> longer. . .
> at which time NBC makes the necessary adjustments to fit the show.
> Not every show can do that. . .by the way!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>Frightened squirrel?
>Ya hear that, MsLiz? The Good Doctor's starting with me...
Hahahahaha. Frightened squirrel is a perfect line.
I've seen "you people," you remote control/paus/record people...you
get all jumpy and nervous...is that a station break, or is the show
starting? don't wanna miss that first line? car commercial, still
paused...wait, wait....is that jerry in an AmEx commercial, DAMN, I'm
STILL PAUSED....oh now...that's ELAINE...START IT START IT...DAMMIT,
that's clairol...wait...wait.....
And hey, don't drag Liz into it...she doesn't strike me as a remote
control/pause freak...but I may be wrong!
Best,
WT
> I've seen "you people," you remote control/paus/record people...you
> get all jumpy and nervous...is that a station break, or is the show
> starting? don't wanna miss that first line? car commercial, still
> paused...wait, wait....is that jerry in an AmEx commercial, DAMN, I'm
> STILL PAUSED....oh now...that's ELAINE...START IT START IT...DAMMIT,
> that's clairol...wait...wait.....
>
Some of "us people" aren't afraid to blow some serious coin on a high-end
VCR w/ Electronic-to-Electronic Editing AND then learn how to use it (even
more important than parting w/ the $ to begin with.) You simply tape INTO a
commercial, back up to the middle of the "black space" before the commercial
(the VCR will display picture only while letting you dial individual frames
at any speed in any direction), and return to pause w/o ever leaving record
mode. You then intentionally false start at the end of each commercial,
when you verify it is NOT Seinfeld, one button jumps you back to the very
frame you were on before you false started. Repeat as needed. Through the
miracle of twin flying erase heads, you have a seamless commercial edit.
Alright, alright. Just cause my Thursday nights are free doesn't
mean I'm a homebody. I get up for work every weekday morning at
4:30 AM. This means I gotta be in bed by 10:30 PM at the latest or
I'm no good to anyone at work the next day. My weekends are
for whooping it up.
(And if you work the 3rd shift at a car lot, and can STILL get a date,
well, then, more power to you.)
BTW, with my method, every single minute of every single tape is
100% Seinfeld. No filler, no commercials, no "last 5 minutes of the
show before Seinfeld", nothing but the pure product.
Frightened squirrel?
Ya hear that, MsLiz? The Good Doctor's starting with me...
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> Pffft. What a crappy system. My Unix boxes sync up the time with the
> atomic clock ever 30 minutes automatically.
>
My home PC is only on once or twice on each weekend, almost never during the
week. Does your Unix box sync up every 30 minutes when it is OFF?
> Why do you have to do it manually every week? That really sucks.
>
Does it matter if I set 12 timepieces or 13 manually? Does your Unix box
also set your VCR clock, microwave clock, car radio clock, wristwatches,
answering machine clock, yada, yada, yada... Get the point?
> I... don't work in publishing... but I will tell you... that there is a
> rule in the English language... that you don't use ellipses... for no
> apparent reason...
Ahhh...but we're not publishing here...we're "talking"...and they serve so
well in place of pauses and allow one to dangle thoughts...
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My system is also rather complex. I turn my VCR on and put in a tape.
Then I press record and pause and turn on NBC. Then when the episode
is about to start, I press the pause button again (in effect, 'unpausing'
the VCR), and I press pause once more when they are about to break for
a commercial, then another 'pause' when they return. 2 more pauses and
a 'Stop' later, and I pull the tape out and store it on the shelf until next
week.
-----------------------------------------
> Alex Andreadis <ndreadi...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> : Some of "us people" aren't afraid to blow some serious coin on a high-end
> : VCR w/ Electronic-to-Electronic Editing AND then learn how to use it (even
> : more important than parting w/ the $ to begin with.) You simply tape INTO a
> : commercial, back up to the middle of the "black space" before the commercial
> : (the VCR will display picture only while letting you dial individual frames
> : at any speed in any direction), and return to pause w/o ever leaving record
> : mode. You then intentionally false start at the end of each commercial,
> : when you verify it is NOT Seinfeld, one button jumps you back to the very
> : frame you were on before you false started. Repeat as needed. Through the
> : miracle of twin flying erase heads, you have a seamless commercial edit.
>
> Nice, what's a VCR like that run you? Maybe if I ever move to a
location where
> my reception is decent I'll spend some money to get a good collection. What
> do you do in the case where you aren't at home to remove commercials; just
> wait til' it comes on again?
Look, if you're going to be serious about this, tape to 1"....
>My system is also rather complex. I turn my VCR on and put in a tape.
>Then I press record and pause and turn on NBC. Then when the episode
>is about to start, I press the pause button again (in effect, 'unpausing'
>the VCR), and I press pause once more when they are about to break for
>a commercial, then another 'pause' when they return. 2 more pauses and
>a 'Stop' later, and I pull the tape out and store it on the shelf until next
>week.
that's a beautiful story...if only all of us would be so lucky to
luxuriate near the TV and VCR each Thursday night. alas some of us
are not so near those fine machines...some of us have night jobs, some
of us are in bad blues bands, some of us work the 3rd shift at
Plymouth or Chrysler or something, some of us simply have a FREAKING
DATE!
ratboy, next Thursday when I'm doing one of the above (anyone want to
guess), I'll think of you, poised on your remote like a frightened
squirrel, while my VCR spins quietly at home, recording (as always)
from 7:55 to 11:30 (just to be sure, you know?).
stay at home, tvboy...I'll be out
dancing...hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
whew, I'm winded...
Cheers,
WT
Hooray, I have figured out how to put my post before my quotes!
Well, you guys sure keep *me* entertained! It is funny to watch you
spar.
People talk about *female* hormones! I say, show me a couple of guys
pumping testosterone and I'll show you entertainment!
ahem.
Well, since this is my court, I make the rules, and find that ratboy
has invoked the jursidiction of the court.
Doc, you took the first shot. Go to your room.
Ratboy, you have redeemed yourself by showing restraint.
You have no right to appeal this decision.
MsLiz
_____________________________________
Summary of above sub-thread, with much editing:
[this is funny stuff, BTW]
>>matthew michael wright wrote:
>>>
>>> How do you guage your time like 8:59:00? What clock do you use
>>> to set it yours by? To me it seemed like the show last night started
>>> around 8:58 or so.
>>>
>>> <<< yada, yada, yada......>>>
>>
>>This will give my enemies still more ammunition about my anal, overly
>>observant quirks
>>
I forgot who wrote this:
>
>Pffft. What a crappy system. My Unix boxes sync up the time with the
>atomic clock ever 30 minutes automatically.
>
>Why do you have to do it manually every week? That really sucks.
>
And "ratboy" comes out of his little hole in the baseboard to venture:
>My system is also rather complex. I turn my VCR on and put in a tape.
>Then I press record and pause and turn on NBC. Then when the episode
>is about to start, I press the pause button again (in effect, 'unpausing'
>a commercial, then another 'pause' when they return. 2 more pauses and
>a 'Stop' later, and I pull the tape out and store it on the shelf until next
>week.
Dr. WT stood at the lectern and aggressively ; ) retorted:
>that's a beautiful story...if only all of us would be so lucky to
>luxuriate near the TV and VCR each Thursday night. alas some of us
>are not so near those fine machines...some of us have night jobs, some
>of us are in bad blues bands, some of us work the 3rd shift at
>Plymouth or Chrysler or something, some of us simply have a FREAKING
>DATE!
>>>>ratboy, next Thursday when I'm doing one of the above (anyone want to
>guess), I'll think of you, poised on your remote like a frightened
>squirrel, while my VCR spins quietly at home, recording (as always)
>from 7:55 to 11:30 (just to be sure, you know?).
>>>>>stay at home, tvboy...I'll be out
>dancing...hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
>>>>whew, I'm winded...
>
>Cheers,
>WT
ratboy couldn't resist another nibble on Doc's cheese:
>Alright, alright. Just cause my Thursday nights are free doesn't
>mean I'm a homebody. I get up for work every weekday morning at
>4:30 AM. This means I gotta be in bed by 10:30 PM at the latest or
>I'm no good to anyone at work the next day. My weekends are
>for whooping it up.
>(And if you work the 3rd shift at a car lot, and can STILL get a date,
>well, then, more power to you.)
>BTW, with my method, every single minute of every single tape is
>100% Seinfeld. No filler, no commercials, no "last 5 minutes of the
>show before Seinfeld", nothing but the pure product.
>Frightened squirrel?
>Ya hear that, MsLiz? The Good Doctor's starting with me...
bob...@airmail.net (WT Pfefferle, Ph.D.) wrote:
>Hahahahaha. Frightened squirrel is a perfect line.
>
>I've seen "you people," you remote control/paus/record people...you
>get all jumpy and nervous...is that a station break, or is the show
>starting? don't wanna miss that first line? car commercial, still
>paused...wait, wait....is that jerry in an AmEx commercial, DAMN, I'm
>STILL PAUSED....oh now...that's ELAINE...START IT START IT...DAMMIT,
>that's clairol...wait...wait.....
>
>And hey, don't drag Liz into it...she doesn't strike me as a remote
>control/pause freak...but I may be wrong!
>
>Best,
>WT
>
END OF QUOTES, email me if you read this far!
lizg...@mindspring.com
Yeeeeeeeee-haw!!!! Lets talk punitive damages!!!! :)
--------------------------------------------
>Ms Liz says: Doc, you took the first shot. Go to your room.
>rat...@ibm.net says: Yeeeeeeeee-haw!!!! Lets talk punitive damages!!!! :)
Although Ms Liz has denied me even the OPPORTUNITY to appeal (and
listen, I watch Law & Order), I must say one thing.
I DIDN'T START IT...smart ass ratboy was bragging about how he simply
waits for the commercial and then presses pause and so on.
I took that comment with great affrontrage. His "leisure class"
sensibility is not in sync with my class-less dream for a socialist
nation.
Therefore, I throw MYSELF upon the mercy of the court...
WT
Hold on there, Doc. I cannot be held responsible for the manner in
which you 'took' my post. I was trying to be humorous by poking
a bit of fun at the Anal Retentive Episode Taper who, if you'll let him,
will detail the complete 294 step process for creating a Seinfeld
collection. If this response offended you or your Socialist dogma, well,
then I suppose you can call this an apology, but you've been here long
enough to know you should take all of my posts with a grain of salt.
>
>Therefore, I throw MYSELF upon the mercy of the court...
>
No mercy. Jerry wouldn't approve.
: Some of "us people" aren't afraid to blow some serious coin on a high-end
: VCR w/ Electronic-to-Electronic Editing AND then learn how to use it (even
: more important than parting w/ the $ to begin with.) You simply tape INTO a
: commercial, back up to the middle of the "black space" before the commercial
: (the VCR will display picture only while letting you dial individual frames
: at any speed in any direction), and return to pause w/o ever leaving record
: mode. You then intentionally false start at the end of each commercial,
: when you verify it is NOT Seinfeld, one button jumps you back to the very
: frame you were on before you false started. Repeat as needed. Through the
: miracle of twin flying erase heads, you have a seamless commercial edit.
Nice, what's a VCR like that run you? Maybe if I ever move to a location where
my reception is decent I'll spend some money to get a good collection. What
do you do in the case where you aren't at home to remove commercials; just
wait til' it comes on again?
--
> snip, snip
>
>Therefore, I throw MYSELF upon the mercy of the court...
>
>WT
>
>
Petition for certiorari granted.
Case taken under advisement.
Issue: Whether it is a legal defense to a charge of cyber-mayhem that
the accused is a Texan.
> In article <62119h$755$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, matthew michael wright
> <mmwr...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> > Alex Andreadis <ndreadi...@erols.com> wrote:
> >
> > : Some of "us people" aren't afraid to blow some serious coin on a
> high-end
> > : VCR <<<yada, yada, yada>>>
> >
> > Nice, what's a VCR like that run you? Maybe if I ever move to a
> location where
> > my reception is decent I'll spend some money to get a good collection.
> What
> > do you do in the case where you aren't at home to remove commercials;
> just
> > wait til' it comes on again?
>
> Look, if you're going to be serious about this, tape to 1"....
Now you're talkin' ! Also, a sattelite dish not to deal w/ CATV
defficiencies.
"You people". Ouch. Anyway, it's not that tough. I guess I'm lucky in that
the station I tape from ALWAYS gives me a 5 second "coming up on the
10:00 news" commercial right after the break and right before the show
comes back on. Instead of "coming up on the 10:00 news", I hear them
saying "Get your finger on the Pause button. Ready? 3... 2... 1..."
Perfect results every time, PLUS I get 16 episodes per tape.
>And hey, don't drag Liz into it...she doesn't strike me as a remote
>control/pause freak...but I may be wrong!
Maybe not, but she is Judge, Jury, (and *gulp* Executioner?)