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Markus Ludvigsson

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Oct 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/13/98
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I have to say I think Michael Richards is a much better actor then Jim
Carrey,,,,,what do you think?

Friend

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Markus Ludvigsson (lud...@algonet.se) wrote:
: I have to say I think Michael Richards is a much better actor then Jim
: Carrey,,,,,what do you think?

I like them both and I honestly don't see the point in comparing two
actors.

Niraj Agarwalla

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Markus Ludvigsson (lud...@algonet.se) wrote:

: I have to say I think Michael Richards is a much better actor then Jim
: Carrey,,,,,what do you think?

Michael Richards hasn't done much besides making a couple of flicks. He
was in Airheads, the Coneheads, and a couple of other films. Basically he
was playing the role of Kramer Lite. Nothing too spectacular. It will be
interesting to see what projects he will do in the future.

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Paul Canniff

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to
Michael Richards is like comparing Disney's "The Lion King" to Disney's "Meet
the Deedles". Michael Richards is very funny but he's really only capable of
one role (Kramer or Kramer-like characters).

Raingluttn

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Paul wrote:
>Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to
Michael Richards is like comparing Disney's "The Lion King" to Disney's "Meet
the Deedles". Michael Richards is very funny but he's really only capable of
one role (Kramer or Kramer-like characters).>

Do we know what Kramer is capable of? I have not seen him in other roles.
I have not seen all of Carey's work.
I think I prefer Richards as Kramer because there's a subtlety there that
appeals to me more than my impression of Carey (based on NOT having seen all of
this films.)
Carey may be more versatile, but we dont know what else Richards will do.
In any case, versatility isn't everything.
Was Bogie versatile? Yet he was great.
If Richards's career has nothing as good as Kramer, I will still sit in awe of
what he did with this role.


Mike Casimir

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Paul Canniff wrote:
>
> Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to
> Michael Richards is like comparing Disney's "The Lion King" to Disney's "Meet
> the Deedles". Michael Richards is very funny but he's really only capable of
> one role (Kramer or Kramer-like characters).

Not disputing the fact that Jim Carrey is a great actor, but his comedy
has become old & uninteresting. For example, I found Ace Ventura 2:
When Nature Calls simply offensive. It was not funny nor did it keep me
interested. Anyways, Michael Richards has proven he's a superb actor in
no matter what part he plays.

Later,
Mike

>

Mike Casimir

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Paul Canniff wrote:
>
> Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to
> Michael Richards is like comparing Disney's "The Lion King" to Disney's "Meet
> the Deedles". Michael Richards is very funny but he's really only capable of
> one role (Kramer or Kramer-like characters).
>
> Niraj Agarwalla wrote:
> >
> > Markus Ludvigsson (lud...@algonet.se) wrote:
> >
> > : I have to say I think Michael Richards is a much better actor then Jim
> > : Carrey,,,,,what do you think?
> >
> > Michael Richards hasn't done much besides making a couple of flicks. He
> > was in Airheads, the Coneheads, and a couple of other films. Basically he
> > was playing the role of Kramer Lite. Nothing too spectacular. It will be
> > interesting to see what projects he will do in the future.
> >
> > --
> > Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj

Not disputing the fact that Jim Carrey is a fine actor. His comedy is
OLD, outdated, irritating, etc. His only worthwhile film is Liar Liar,
as he did portray a "normal" character, without using that irratating,
offensive comedy that most people are beginning to hate. Anyways, as
for Michael richards, he has proven himself to be a fine actor, showing
us he can play any role assigned to him no matter whether is comedy,
drama, etc.

Later,
Mike

Dave

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Witness: Carrey's first attempt at a "serious" role, "The Cable Guy",
was absolutely horrible.

When's Ace Ventura III coming out?
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Mohamel

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Oct 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/14/98
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Mike Casimir a écrit dans le message <362513...@humberc.on.ca>...

>Paul Canniff wrote:
>>
>> Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to
>> Michael Richards is like comparing Disney's "The Lion King" to Disney's
"Meet
>> the Deedles". Michael Richards is very funny but he's really only capable
of
>> one role (Kramer or Kramer-like characters).
>
>Not disputing the fact that Jim Carrey is a great actor, but his comedy
>has become old & uninteresting. For example, I found Ace Ventura 2:
>When Nature Calls simply offensive. It was not funny nor did it keep me
>interested. Anyways, Michael Richards has proven he's a superb actor in
>no matter what part he plays.
>
>Later,
>Mike
>
I'll agree about Ace Ventura and The Cable Guy but "The Truman Show ",
I tought was something else. My problem is that I haven't seen
M. Richards in anything else than Seinfeld.

Mo


t...@home.com

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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Actually, Michael Richards did his biggest role in Problem child playing
the escaped convict...

t...@home.com

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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his lines were awful
have you seen the truman show
great piece of acting!

Dave wrote:


>
> Mike Casimir wrote:
> >
> > Paul Canniff wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to
> > > Michael Richards is like comparing Disney's "The Lion King" to Disney's "Meet
> > > the Deedles". Michael Richards is very funny but he's really only capable of
> > > one role (Kramer or Kramer-like characters).
> > >

> > > Niraj Agarwalla wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Markus Ludvigsson (lud...@algonet.se) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > : I have to say I think Michael Richards is a much better actor then Jim
> > > > : Carrey,,,,,what do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Michael Richards hasn't done much besides making a couple of flicks. He
> > > > was in Airheads, the Coneheads, and a couple of other films. Basically he
> > > > was playing the role of Kramer Lite. Nothing too spectacular. It will be
> > > > interesting to see what projects he will do in the future.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj
> >

Russell

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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+ Witness: Carrey's first attempt at a "serious" role, "The Cable Guy",
+ was absolutely horrible.

Gah, I found The Cable Guy, far better than 'Liar Liar'.

r.

Tim

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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On 14 Oct 1998, Raingluttn wrote:

> Paul wrote:
> >Jim Carrey is the best actor of our generation. Comparing Jim Carrey to

That's the best joke I've seen in the last hour at least.

Tim


Dave

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But "Liar Liar" was a children's movie. Along the lines of those
Disney-type flicks where a father and son change bodies or a man
inhabits a dog or some other such nonsense. "The Cable Guy" was,
ostensibly, an adult movie and shouldn't have been held to the same
"fluff" standard. I expected more from "The Cable Guy" and was
disappointed, while "Liar Liar" was stupid but entertaining.

I've heard/read good things about "The Truman Show", but I haven't seen
it. Maybe it'll change my mind about Carrey.

Until then, I still say he should stick to the silly physical comedy
that got him to the top in the first place and leave the serious stuff
to real dramatic actors.

Niraj Agarwalla

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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Dave (rat...@icanect.net) wrote:

: Witness: Carrey's first attempt at a "serious" role, "The Cable Guy",
: was absolutely horrible.

I don't consider Jim Carrey role in _The Cable Guy_ as "serious". He
was playing a darker version of his comedic side. Carrey's role in _The
Truman Show_ can be considered as "serious". Anyway, I found _The Cable
Guy_ quite enjoyable, I believe it was unfaily panned.

: When's Ace Ventura III coming out?

I hope not.

Niraj Agarwalla

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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Mike Casimir (casm...@humberc.on.ca) wrote:

: Not disputing the fact that Jim Carrey is a great actor, but his comedy


: has become old & uninteresting. For example, I found Ace Ventura 2:
: When Nature Calls simply offensive. It was not funny nor did it keep me
: interested. Anyways, Michael Richards has proven he's a superb actor in
: no matter what part he plays.

What other roles has Michael Richards played that would merit such
praise?

Paul Canniff

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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First of all, there will not be an Ace Ventura 3 because Jim Carrey has
stated that he will only do one sequel in his lifetime because he feels they
are just money-making machines. Which is too bad, because I was really looking
forward to The Mask II (That's the sequel that should have been made, not Ace
Ventura). Secondly, I thought The Cable Guy was very entertaining. And your
problem is you're missing the whole point of the movie, it wasn't intended to
be "serious". It was a comedic horror film about a demented cable man. Just
because his performance wasn't over-the-top like in all his previous films
doesn't mean you're supposed to look upon it as a drama. Even if Carrey was
placed in a drama (the closest thing to that would be The Truman Show) we
would still find humor in it at some point in the movie because Carrey is not
a one-note actor. There has to be at least one point in all his movies where
you can have a chance to laugh. And that's what I appreciate about him.


> >
>
> Witness: Carrey's first attempt at a "serious" role, "The Cable Guy",
> was absolutely horrible.
>

> When's Ace Ventura III coming out?

Raingluttn

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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Dave wrote:
>I've heard/read good things about "The Truman Show", but I haven't seen
it. Maybe it'll change my mind about Carrey.>

I did see this one and it did impress me. I do not care for his comedic style
but I thought this was a fascinating movie and that he was very good in it. If
you get a chance, see it and let us know what you think.
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The News Guy(Mike)

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Mohamel wrote:

> <snip>


>
> I'll agree about Ace Ventura and The Cable Guy but "The Truman Show ",
> I tought was something else. My problem is that I haven't seen
> M. Richards in anything else than Seinfeld.
>
> Mo


But Jim Carrey is from my part of town - he went to the same High School my
kids go to (he got kicked out though - I hear) Just North of Toronto Canada.

So as a loyal Canuck I vote for Jim but still love Michael as Kramer!

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The News Guy(Mike)

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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Off topic - but verrrry Innnterestinggg....

If you see The Truman show watch for all the images of Christ in the movie -
Jim's part is that of Christ - I could do a great list as there are so many.

Anyone want to name some more?
- brought up by a mother who did not conceive him
- loved by the world
- walked on water
- position of lying on the boat
- rose to heaven
- his 'producer' was...(check out the name)
- etc... can you add some more...

Mohamel

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The News Guy(Mike) a écrit dans le message
<362690AE...@geocities.com>...

I'd have to see it again I saw it in July or something is it
out on video yet?

Mo


art vandelay

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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For a view of Jim Carrey's dramatic work, one has to find a tape of a TV
movie in which he played a supporting role called "Doing Time On Maple
Drive" (or something like that). He made it when In Living Color was in
its first or second season. I remember he got good reviews for his
performance.

Michael Richards' dramatic talents can be seen in a recent movie called
"Unstrung Heroes."


Jay Hewal

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RGINA

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Oct 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/17/98
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Comparing these two great comic actors today is like saying who was the
best between Bob Hope and Jack Benny of yesteryear. I love Michael and Jim and
each is uniquely gifted. I don't think I will ever again be more comically
entertained by another actor on tv as much as I have been with Michael's
Kramer. He wouldn't have to perform again, and will be remembered forever in
the same category as Lucille Ball.
Jim keeps getting better as a movie comic actor etched with dramatic
overtones. Because he is still so young, he has an excellent chance of
reaching Robin William's stature. Truman Show proved that. I just wish
Michael was younger and had the opportunities Jim is having. I think we might
have seen a richer movie index in his portfolio. Let's hope they use him well
in the future.
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Ron Nehemia

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Oct 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/17/98
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NO WAY!!!
Ace ventura 2 is excellent!!!
Not that I don't think michal is too!

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Mohamel

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!!!
It should at least had been Desperado!

Mo

Talk1370

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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>I have to say I think Michael Richards is a much better actor then Jim
>Carrey,,,,,what do you think?

Apples and oranges. Carrey is a LOT more like a writer/performer, more in
the Robin Williams mold, and they're more directly comparable.


Bob Smith, afternoons WXXI-AM 1370, Rochester NY

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