James Garner's Leg Injury
j.r._johnson
him on TRF. This is something that I never noticed before on the show.
But, I was watching The Aaron Ironwood School of Success and throughout the
show Jim was limping. Of course, he had at least 3 reasons when asked
about it in the series (ya gotta love the way he handled these). Was THIS
the result of his real-life injuries? It appeared it was his right leg
that was causing the problem. Is this correct? And, finally, I *think* I
read in here that this was the result of an old football injury. Is that
also correct? Thanks for any answers the group can give me.
BTW, is there any kind of FAQ for the group? I know a lot of the same
questions get asked from time to time. Inquiring minds want to know. <g>
-Johnny
Charles Boils
that is where his injuries - especially to his knees - were from the stunts.
He had knee surgery before the first Rockford movie in 1995 and was limping.
The reason given in the show was that he was shot in the leg.
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j.r._johnson
><J.R. Johnson> wrote
>> I have read in here earlier about how Mr. Garner's leg problems affected
>> him on TRF. This is something that I never noticed before on the show.
>> But, I was watching The Aaron Ironwood School of Success and throughout
>the
>> show Jim was limping. Of course, he had at least 3 reasons when asked
>> about it in the series (ya gotta love the way he handled these). Was THIS
>> the result of his real-life injuries? It appeared it was his right leg
>> that was causing the problem. Is this correct? And, finally, I *think* I
>> read in here that this was the result of an old football injury. Is that
>> also correct? Thanks for any answers the group can give me.
>>
>>
>> -Johnny
>I have seen interviews on tv with Garner. He claims to do his own stunts and
>that is where his injuries - especially to his knees - were from the stunts.
I've heard that he did do some of his own stunts. But, as Rob has
mentioned in here before Roydon Clark did a lot of stunt work for Mr.
Garner. I suppose something could have happened during the filming that
caused the injury. But, since this was the first episode of the second
season, I would have thought he would have been rested up over the filming
break.
Anyone else have a different opinion on this?
-Johnny
Scripts360
period between seasons is usually no more than three months, that's not enough
time to re-coup properly. And the fact that Jim was in 95% of the scenes and
spent a great deal of his time on his feet on the pavement, he never got a real
chance to recover from the surgeries. He wore knee pads most of the time
especially during fight scenes. I remember during the filming of Only Rock and
Roll Will Never Die when Jim and George Loros are attacked at the trailer and
Jim is "Shot" he rolled over on the pavement and banged his knee pretty bad.
But, the man was a trouper (I hate that phrase) he soldiered on with ice packs
and Tylenol. He now has two new knees and is pain free for the first time in
thirty years. Roy too. He has his new knees.
And the copy of the new script is on it's way to Roy right now. I left it at
the Stunt Office and we will see what happens. Anyway. Sorry I've been away,
but have been real busy with the house and stuff.
Enjoyed "Friends and Foul Play" last night and am glad that the Hallmark
Channel picked up all of the movies.
Rob
j.r._johnson
>I know that Jim had knee surgery between seasons 2 and 3. But since the >hiatus period between seasons is usually no more than three months, that's >not enough time to re-coup properly. And the fact that Jim was in 95% of >the scenes and spent a great deal of his time on his feet on the pavement, >he never got a real chance to recover from the surgeries.
Do you recall if there was a specific accident that caused him to limp so
badly in the opener of the second season? Unless this was something that
was just written into the script (which I don't really think so), Jim was
in quite a bit of pain. I'm sure that's what eventually led up to the
sugeries. The thing is he wasn't THAT BAD at the end of the first season,
so he either had a bad flare up of something or he had some other kind of
accident between the end of season 1 and the beginning of season 2.
>He wore knee pads most of the time especially during fight scenes. I >remember during the filming of Only Rock and Roll Will Never Die when Jim >and George Loros are attacked at the trailer and Jim is "Shot" he rolled >over on the pavement and banged his knee pretty bad. But, the man was a >trouper (I hate that phrase) he soldiered on with ice packs and Tylenol.
I recall that and remember thinking at the time that this HAD TO HURT.
Doing something like that on the sand on the beach is one thing. But,
doing it in a paved parking lot is quite another thing!
>And the copy of the new script is on it's way to Roy right now. I left
>it at the Stunt Office and we will see what happens.
GREAT! Let's keep our fingers crossed on this one. How soon do you think
you'll know one way or the other on this?
>Anyway. Sorry I've been away, but have been real busy with the house and >stuff. Enjoyed "Friends and Foul Play" last night and am glad that the >Hallmark Channel picked up all of the movies.
>
>Rob
Thanks again, Rob, for all of your inside info on this. Looking forward to
seeing your name in the opening credits of the new movie....
Story by
Rob Scripts360 <BG>
-Johnny
Righter
> And the copy of the new script is on it's way to Roy right now. I left it
at
> the Stunt Office and we will see what happens.
I can see it now in the closing credits: "And thanks to all my pals on
alt.tv.rockford-files, whose incite and inspiration made this script what it
is." Bwa ha ha! But really Rob...it wouldn't hurt. :o)
dw
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Glad to see you back again Rob and as always your insights are certainly
appreciated.
Best of luck on the script and as Righter said don't forget all of your
pals here when the credits roll or is that role. Nowadays the credits
following movies include everyone's name including the chauffeur for the
gopher's assistant so a dozen or so extra names from here couldn't make much
difference.
Adam H. Kerman
>And the copy of the new script is on it's way to Roy right now. I left it at
>the Stunt Office and we will see what happens.
I've got to ask: Why do you turn your script in to a stunt man? Is this the
only way to get it into the studio? Past the guard at the gate, leaping over
a herd of gophers, flunkies, and assistants-to, blazing past the receptionist,
kicking twelve vice-presidents out of the way, doing an end run around the
secretary, and finally, hurdling over the naked girl on the casting couch?
Scripts360
You know how many deals are made on golf courses?
Rob
Adam H. Kerman
>Well, Because Jim and Roy go to the races all the time and play golf
>together. You know how many deals are made on golf courses?
Heh. So that's like any other business!
Do you ever join them?
CardsFan
AJM
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Bill Anderson
> Do you recall if there was a specific accident that caused him to limp so
> badly in the opener of the second season? Unless this was something that
> was just written into the script (which I don't really think so), Jim was
> in quite a bit of pain.
You're thinking of the James Hampton episode, the name of which escapes
me at the moment (I'm on vacation, enjoying the California coastline).
That show was the first to air in the second season but it wasn't the
first to shoot. The first one shot is "A Bad Deal in the Valley", if I
remember Ed Robertson's book correctly...
Bill Anderson
bcnmason
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I remember reading that as well. The second season had a few of the
episodes shuffled around so as to start out with more of the "heavy
hitters". "Bad Deal In The Valley" was very weak in my opinion, as were a
couple of others that year. I'm not sure, but was this on account of the
ratings battle that Rockford had at the time with Hawaii 5-0? I vaguely
recall that being mentioned as to one of the reasons the shuffle took place.
By the way, the episode you're thinking of is "The Aaron Ironwood School Of
Success".
Brian
j.r._johnson
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>>
>> > Do you recall if there was a specific accident that caused him to
>> >limp so badly in the opener of the second season? Unless this was >> >something that was just written into the script (which I don't really >> >think so), Jim was in quite a bit of pain.
>>
>> You're thinking of the James Hampton episode, the name of which escapes
>> me at the moment (I'm on vacation, enjoying the California coastline).
Ah .... Congratulations! Nice. :)
>> That show was the first to air in the second season but it wasn't the
>> first to shoot. The first one shot is "A Bad Deal in the Valley", if I
>> remember Ed Robertson's book correctly...
>>
>> Bill Anderson
>
>By the way, the episode you're thinking of is "The Aaron Ironwood School Of
>Success".
>
>Brian
Right. That is interesting. I've not read Ed Robertson's book, so that IS
some interesting information. Jim was limping really badly in that
episode. But, I was noticing in another one from that season, I think it
was The Great Blue Lake Land and Development Company, that he had a pretty
noticeable limp in it. Thanks for the info from you guys.
This reminds me of something that I think was really great in TRF shows. I
know other shows had used this before, but it was mostly sitcoms. What I'm
referring to is a *reoccuring theme* that runs throughout an episode. In
The Aaron Ironwood School Of Success it was the limp and Jim's response to
everyone. It was always a different story each time. In Charlie Harris at
large, it was where Jim kept getting awakened every time he tried to go to
sleep. Even in Gearjammers Jim kept finding out about Rocky's *mysterious*
Saturday afternoons. These get hilarious after awhile. I think this is a
great technique to keep a sub-plot going within the main plot.
Can anyone else think of some more of these reoccuring themes in other
shows?
Bill Anderson
> Right. That is interesting. I've not read Ed Robertson's book, so that IS
> some interesting information. Jim was limping really badly in that
> episode. But, I was noticing in another one from that season, I think it
> was The Great Blue Lake Land and Development Company, that he had a pretty
> noticeable limp in it. Thanks for the info from you guys.
If you watch carefully, he limps a lot. He just didn't hide it in Aaron
Ironwood (thanks Brian!). I remember him limping in the No Cut Contract
and having a terrible limp in the first Richie Brockelman episode.
Bill Anderson
Craig Gordon
the legs or rump during the Korean conflict, for which he received a Purple
Heart.
Always thought that was the cause of his limp.
Charles Boils
2) when Rocky & Jim were trying to fix the garbage disposal. At the end Jim
figures out that the missing bullet was in the garbage disposal.
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> > Somewhere in my memory banks there is a rememberance that Jim was shot
in
> the legs or rump during the Korean conflict, for which he received a
Purple
> Heart.
As Jim put it once in an interview,.."I got hit in my cheeks,...and I'm not
talking about my face".
Brian
j.r._johnson
wrote:
OK. Thanks. Now that you mention it, I've been noticing in the second
season exactly what you are saying. He does limp some bit, although he
tries to hide it most of the time.
-Johnny
j.r._johnson
>The best subplot/reoccuring theme I know of was in Profit & Loss (Part 1 &
>2) when Rocky & Jim were trying to fix the garbage disposal. At the end Jim
>figures out that the missing bullet was in the garbage disposal.
Right. That WAS a classic. That was such a great scene when they are in
jail and Jim tells Rocky where the sixth bullet was. Thanks. Anyone
remember any others?
-Johnny
jcollins25
Peru... the Army Reserve weekend... and the Ronko family squabbling...
especially when Mr. Ronko was so happy that his teenaged daughter forgot about
her boyfriend Joey Sick and was seen in the company of "that nice young man..."
the cradle robbing lifeguard.
Joe