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Ridwan Hughes

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Jan 30, 2004, 10:43:19 AM1/30/04
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I've been converting my season 3 DVDs to PAL, wow don't they ever look
cool in their original format, smooth as silk motion with no NTSC
juddering getting in the way. Now I'll be able to watch S3 on my portable
DVD player finally :)


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Sean McLean

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Jan 31, 2004, 12:28:00 AM1/31/04
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Huh? Since when was Reboot originally in PAL format? It was made in
Canada, which uses NTSC just like the U.S. and Japan. It probably just
looks better on your system in PAL because that's the system you use, so
there's no coversion required during playback. But I would be quite
surprised if a Canadian show was made in PAL, especially since it's
primary target was the U.S. market.

- Sean

Elc

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Jan 31, 2004, 12:51:55 AM1/31/04
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Sean McLean wrote:

> Huh? Since when was Reboot originally in PAL format? It was made in
> Canada, which uses NTSC just like the U.S. and Japan. It probably just
> looks better on your system in PAL because that's the system you use, so
> there's no coversion required during playback. But I would be quite
> surprised if a Canadian show was made in PAL, especially since it's
> primary target was the U.S. market.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3AC0E33A.48D8F39C%40reboot.com

When Mairi Welman was still the Director of Communications for Mainframe, she
informed us that Mainframe was a PAL facility.

Joxer the Mighty

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Jan 31, 2004, 1:21:42 AM1/31/04
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Sean McLean wrote:

> Huh? Since when was Reboot originally in PAL format? It was made in
> Canada, which uses NTSC just like the U.S. and Japan. It probably just
> looks better on your system in PAL because that's the system you use, so
> there's no coversion required during playback. But I would be quite
> surprised if a Canadian show was made in PAL, especially since it's
> primary target was the U.S. market.

Yes, Reboot was made in Canada, but it was also produced in Pal and only
converted to NTSC for delivery to the networks. That was the way all the
Mainframe shows were made, up to 16 months ago anyway. Mainframe was set up
as a Pal facility from the word go.

Joxer

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Ridwan Hughes

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Jan 31, 2004, 2:08:27 AM1/31/04
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In article <401B4A41...@direct.ca>, gavi...@direct.ca says...

>
> Yes, Reboot was made in Canada, but it was also produced in Pal and only
> converted to NTSC for delivery to the networks. That was the way all the
> Mainframe shows were made, up to 16 months ago anyway. Mainframe was set up
> as a Pal facility from the word go.

I don't know which I find odder, that Mainframe was setup as a PAL
facility in an NTSC land, or that a pulldown technique was used to
convert it to NTSC rather than a field/frame blending technique.

Ah well, it's nice to be able to 'undo' the pulldown to restore the
PAL frames, can't get it 100% perfect, more like 99.9% as every minute
or two there's a frame jump (but hardly noticable), just wish I could
work out how to 'undo' it perfectly, and get hold of some season 4
VHSs recorded in America too...


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Ridwan Hughes

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Jan 31, 2004, 2:12:07 AM1/31/04
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In article <401B427A...@spam.ca>, no...@spam.ca says...

> Sean McLean wrote:
>
> > Huh? Since when was Reboot originally in PAL format?
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3AC0E33A.48D8F39C%40reboot.com

I remember that post! seems so long ago now, I've learnt so much about
NTSC, PAL & framerate conversion etc. since then.


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Sean McLean

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Jan 31, 2004, 5:46:52 AM1/31/04
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Joxer the Mighty wrote:

> Yes, Reboot was made in Canada, but it was also produced in Pal and only
> converted to NTSC for delivery to the networks. That was the way all the
> Mainframe shows were made, up to 16 months ago anyway. Mainframe was set up
> as a Pal facility from the word go.
>
> Joxer

Hmm, interesting! Well, I guess that's the new thing I learned today.
That's certainly odd, I'll have to read over that old article. I've never
heard of a North American video production being made in PAL before, other
than perhaps as an "artistic" choice or whatever.

> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> You call that begging? You can beg better than that.


Part 2 comes out next month. Can't wait! :)


> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> Gavin Blair - gavi...@direct.ca
> Unabashed Xenaholic & God of Chicks That Kick Ass
>
> ____________________________________________________________________

- Sean

Brian Doyle

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Jan 31, 2004, 4:04:45 PM1/31/04
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"Ridwan Hughes" <f...@ridhughz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a8564c91...@News.Individual.NET...

> just wish I could
> work out how to 'undo' it perfectly, and get hold of some season 4
> VHSs recorded in America too...

Dude, why didn't you ask? My Season 4 are in NTSC recorded off air in the
USA

Cheers

Brian


Ridwan Hughes

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Feb 1, 2004, 6:55:02 PM2/1/04
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In article <bvh5l6$ee3$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, No_...@freeserve.co.uk
says...

[puts on best Enzo voice]
Dude!
[/Enzo]

I didn't think anyone over would have tapes of it, that's so cool.
I'd love to borrow those tapes sometime, unfortunately I can't use my
best capture hardware as it can't capture NTSC tapes on a PAL VCR, but
that doesn't mean I can't capture it :)


[dreams of having all four series in PAL format, 3 down, 1 to go...]

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Ridwan Hughes

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Feb 2, 2004, 5:52:11 AM2/2/04
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In article <MPG.1a8564c91...@News.Individual.NET>,
f...@ridhughz.demon.co.uk says...

> it's nice to be able to 'undo' the pulldown to restore the
> PAL frames, can't get it 100% perfect, more like 99.9% as every minute
> or two there's a frame jump

Correction, I've solved that frame skip bug now and have the entire 3rd
season in full PAL format :-)


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