This is my first visit to this newsgroup and I'm very happy to see that
there are other folks out there who adore the RW as I do. I've never
missed an episode and the new seasons are always among the better things
in my summers.
After five years of shows and one year of RR, I have several pressing
questions. Why has the RW never been outta Texas? My God, they've used
California for two seperate RWs! Why have there never even been any Texans?
And reently, why has RR only skimmed across the narrowest part of my beloved
state? They never even stopped to do anything!
It only stands to reason that Texas would get one of the first five RWs.
We're the second most populated state. We're more diverse than any
other state I've ever been in. There's tons of things to do and the
people all seem to be nicer than those Yankees in New Yack and surfers in
California.
Anyone got any good answers to this?
BTW, I'd like to be on the record as saying that David got the shaft and
if I ever have to live with someone as annoying, insecure, insincere and
petty as Puck, I'd be forced to break the lease. Also, Andre and John
were the coolest. Aaron and Dom, close seconds.
>
> After five years of shows and one year of RR, I have several pressing
> questions. Why has the RW never been outta Texas? My God, they've used
> California for two seperate RWs! Why have there never even been any Texans?
> And reently, why has RR only skimmed across the narrowest part of my beloved
> state? They never even stopped to do anything!
No joke! I'll tell you what it is, it is a giant yankee conspiracy
designed to keep us southerners down. Look at how all southern
universities are kept divided. Alabama vs Auburn, Florida vs Florida
State, your UT against my A&M. I for one have been working against
it, I am urging detente between all southerners so we can focus
on the true enemy, but so far I have had little luck in it. My
campaign to end calling the University of Texas t.u. and my call
for Bevo and Revellie to get married, have so far been ignored.
Until the two main universities of the great Lone Star State
merge together, Texas will never be able to challange the powerhouses
of California and New York. (I'll tell you though, the real disgrace
was losing to England, that was just insulting)
> It only stands to reason that Texas would get one of the first five RWs.
> We're the second most populated state. We're more diverse than any
> other state I've ever been in. There's tons of things to do and the
> people all seem to be nicer than those Yankees in New Yack and surfers in
> California.
Uhhh, you must know different Texans then I do. The Texans I
know are just as obnoxious and arrogant as any New Yorker of
Californian (the only difference is Texans have a right to be
arrogant, while the people of those other two states don't)
> Anyone got any good answers to this?
>
> BTW, I'd like to be on the record as saying that David got the shaft and
> if I ever have to live with someone as annoying, insecure, insincere and
> petty as Puck, I'd be forced to break the lease. Also, Andre and John
> were the coolest. Aaron and Dom, close seconds.
Well, at least they are moving into the south. Although this
ridiculous idea to have them run a business as well, has already
turned me off to the Real World V. Anyway, after the agony of
England, and this ludicrous business in Miami idea, hopefully
the execs will come to their senses and put a show in Texas. You
can do a lot more in Austin then you can in Miami (just avoid Houston)
Oh, and for the record, I would have to say that my girl Rachel is
the coolest. Anyway, sooner or later they will come to Texas,
and we'll show the Yankees, those California people, and the Brits
just how unreal the world can be when it is being run by Texans.
Peace, love, and corporate profits.
Brendan W. Guy
Welcome to the jungle, baby. :)
>After five years of shows and one year of RR, I have several pressing
>questions. Why has the RW never been outta Texas? My God, they've used
>California for two seperate RWs! Why have there never even been any Texans?
>And reently, why has RR only skimmed across the narrowest part of my beloved
>state? They never even stopped to do anything!
It may have to do with MTV being rather liberal, and Texas being
rather not, if you know what I mean. Austin is a particularly
liberal town as a whole, and even here it's not terribly great as
far as a live and let live philosophy goes.
>It only stands to reason that Texas would get one of the first five RWs.
>We're the second most populated state. We're more diverse than any
>other state I've ever been in. There's tons of things to do and the
>people all seem to be nicer than those Yankees in New Yack and surfers in
>California.
A friend of mine who works at the Governer's office said a couple of
years ago they were contacted by MTV about doing a RW here in Austin.
The time frame they had in mind indicates to me they changed to
London, or just had Austin on the back burner if London fell through.
See, Neil, we could have been neighbors. :)
>Anyone got any good answers to this?
Not really, but I'll post anyway because I'm bored.
>BTW, I'd like to be on the record as saying that David got the shaft and
>if I ever have to live with someone as annoying, insecure, insincere and
>petty as Puck, I'd be forced to break the lease. Also, Andre and John
>were the coolest. Aaron and Dom, close seconds.
<bites tongue, sits on hands, and forces herself to post this
message before Venus forces her to accept the bait.>
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ROTFLMAOASTC!
(Rolling on the florr, laughing my ass off and scaring the cat)
> Uhhh, you must know different Texans then I do. The Texans I
>know are just as obnoxious and arrogant as any New Yorker of
>Californian (the only difference is Texans have a right to be
>arrogant, while the people of those other two states don't)
I grew up in Fort Worth after moving from New York City. The first
bumper sticker I ever saw was"
"Welcome to Fort Worth - now go home."
> Well, at least they are moving into the south. Although this
>ridiculous idea to have them run a business as well, has already
>turned me off to the Real World V. Anyway, after the agony of
>England, and this ludicrous business in Miami idea, hopefully
>the execs will come to their senses and put a show in Texas. You
>can do a lot more in Austin then you can in Miami (just avoid Houston)
>Oh, and for the record, I would have to say that my girl Rachel is
>the coolest. Anyway, sooner or later they will come to Texas,
>and we'll show the Yankees, those California people, and the Brits
>just how unreal the world can be when it is being run by Texans.
>Peace, love, and corporate profits.
> Brendan W. Guy
If they have it in Austin, I can see 7 computer programmers picked
to live in a house with only one phone line, and no Sci Fi channel.
Things would get really nasty really fast.
>>After five years of shows and one year of RR, I have several pressing
>>questions. Why has the RW never been outta Texas? My God, they've used
>>California for two seperate RWs! Why have there never even been any
Texans?
>>And re[c]ently, why has RR only skimmed across the narrowest part of my
beloved
>>state? They never even stopped to do anything!
>
>It may have to do with MTV being rather liberal, and Texas being
>rather not, if you know what I mean. [snipped continuation of argument]
>
Oh, please. That has nothing to do with it at all. The first RW was in
New York b/c
MTV is *based* in NY. The second went to LA b/c of Hollywood, and LA is
the
second largest city. By rights, Chicago should have been 3rd, but they
went to SF.
Perhaps b/c the "Billy Rainey" on the staff wanted his relative, David
"Puck" Rainey,
to be on the show. That makes as much sense as anything. Why London?
Why
Miami? There is no rhyme or reason why they pick a city. And it doesn't
matter
anyway, b/c we *never* get a feel for the town. As I've said before, they
might as
well film on a soundstage. I wouldn't want them to come to Chicago,
although I love
my home dearly and think it's the best place to live. Would they show my
fave spots?
Would they take advantage of everything the city has to offer? Of course
not,
especially since they film during the coldest nastiest part of the year,
when Chicago
is busy weeding out the wimps. They wouldn't do Texas justice either.
What matters
on the show are the relationships between the roomies. It doesn't matter
*where* they
live.
>>It only stands to reason that Texas would get one of the first five RWs.
[snipped Texas bragging]
Why? Do you understand the reasoning for picking cities? No one knows,
so it
*can't* "stand to reason."
Chicago is still larger than any Texan city and more diverse--and you
don't see them here do you? Do you see me complaining? Geez, Texans are
such wimps. Talk to Bostonians much?
I stuck in some returns at the end of lines to avoid the double line
phenomenon and I GOT NAILED! My entire message doubled!! Unbelievable!
AOL still SUCKS!
Anyway, there's nothing I can do.
NOTHING GOING ON IN AUSTIN?? Are you KIDDING ME???
Oh well, this is from the same Network that stayed down here all
through SXSW and let Tabitha Soren broadcast a completely innacurate
new article on MTV News. Then again, it is MTV News, so why am
I suprised.
They actually think Austin is boring. What crap. I lived in NYC and
there may be alot to do there, but most working class stiffs can't
afford to do any of it. There is always something going on here,
always something to do. This city has an incredible cultural life.
What did we actually get to see in London? Big Ben? Woowoo.
Ok, now I'm pissed.
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*Lhiannon http:://www.io.com/~lhiannon/
>So who cares about those thumping, tea-
>drinking rodeo-in' cowboys in Texas?
<growls loudly>
> Talk to Bostonians much?
>
>
HEY!!! Now that's not fair! I have NEVER complained once about the
neglect we Bostonians get way up here. Even though RW passed us over
Twice (SF and London, according to rumors). As far as I am concerned,
there's nothing to whine about, except maybe for all the dang snow. You
people don't know what you're missing...
--WITHNF
I was referring to the lengthy threads insisting Boston should be the next
real world. Maybe they were before your time. I have nothing against
Bostonians or Texans. I have something against thoroughly off-topic
posts. It's one thing to say "I'm going to SF/London/etc. anybody know
the address of the house?", which while not of mass interest, at least
carries some relevence to the ng as someone here can answer the question
(with any luck in e-mail). It's another to go off spouting "My hometown
is just the coolest b/c of a, b, c, and d. It should really be RW6." I
*don't* care to read travelogues.
Chicago is a very cool town. I can sit and rattle off it's charms for
pages, but does anyone else *care*? Is it relevant to the newsgroup?
Will it affect MTV's programming decisions? Will it spice up the show?
No, no, no, and no. Which means: it's off-topic!!! There are
undoubtedly newsgroups and websites out there for Texans, Bostonians, and
Chicagoans. Here, though, we talk about a TV show and the characters
seen/created on it.
Jeremiah
>
Who knows why they pick a location? B/c they want a vacation is probably
the best reason of all.
Here's how they really pick 'em:
RW1: Hey, John, let's try out my new idea. MTV is based in NY. It just
made sense to film it nearby.
RW2: Ooh, it's a success! Let's try CA!
RW3: Hmmm, I've got family in SF, well let's just film the show there!
RW4: I want to go to Europe--let's film in London!
RW5: Oh, London was so cloudy and rainy; I'm ready for the sun--let's go
to Miami!!
RW6: Oh, I'm covered in pre-cancerous lesions, and the show is waning in
popularity. Let's go back to NY; everyone likes RW1 best anyway.
Yes, you heard it here first. RW6: NY revisited.
The difference is we Texans don't care if anyone else cares when we
are raving about our beloved state. We are the most selfabsorbed
people on the planet, which is why I love this state so much. And yes
I could go to a newsgroup just for Texans, but then all that would be
would be me agreeing with everyone else which would get boring very
fast. But here, we get a chance to educate our backward brothers
and sisters from the benighted nonTexan states on just how great
Texas is. As for your specific points, well it is possible an MTV
execitive will be reading this newsgroup and might come across the
idea, that yes maybe they should put one of their Real World's in
Texas, unlikely yes, but if nothing else we are getting to vent
our frustrations about being ignored, and this is a good thing.
You do not want Texans repressing their feelings, trust me it is
always trouble. Anyway, if Chicago is so cool, why aren't you more
willing to talk about it, maybe you being considerate
about the needs of others, but maybe just maybe you realize that
Chicago is not as cool as Texas. Peace, love, and corporate profits.
Brendan W. Guy
Minnesota is COOL. They even have ice fishing.
Zila, a Southerner who has never been to Minnesota but has lived in Texas and found it
to be damn hot
[snip]
> Yes, you heard it here first. RW6: NY revisited.
What, no more rooting for the windy city? :)
-Shindleria Praematurus
"Just like Jack the Ripper, just like Wolfman Jack
Sittin plush with a royal flush, aces back to back"
> But here, we get a chance to educate our backward brothers
>and sisters from the benighted nonTexan states on just how great
>Texas is.
With such delightful points as "The constitution must agree with us
b/c at any moment Texas can become a country of
its own" ?
Despite the fact that the Constitution was written *before* Texas became a
state and wasn't altered to allow for you goofballs' big ol' heads?
Texas, Schmexas. Alaska is bigger and CA has more people.
> As for your specific points, well it is possible an MTV
>execitive will be reading this newsgroup and might come across the
>idea, {snipped continued hysteria},
It's not going to happen.
>but if nothing else we are getting to vent
>our frustrations about being ignored, and this is a good thing.
In the proper setting--it's off-topic here.
>You do not want Texans repressing their feelings,
But it's not Texans. It's "everybody's hometown". Texans are just the
latest whiners (see you're not even *original*). Every few months we get
a stupid thread saying "MTV should film in my hometown." It's dumb. WHO
CARES? Certainly not B-M Enterprises.
>Anyway, if Chicago is so cool, why aren't you more
>willing to talk about it, maybe you['re] being considerate
>about the needs of others, but maybe just maybe you realize that
>Chicago is not as cool as Texas.
I talk about Chicago quite often. In my original slam against this type
of post I had a couple paragraphs of what would be really cool to show and
why MTV would never show any of it. Of course, the fact is: WE NEVER GET
A FEEL FOR THE CITY. I don't want them in Chicago b/c they couldn't do my
city justice. It might end up looking like someplace in Texas.
>why MTV would never show any of it. Of course, the fact is: WE NEVER GET
>A FEEL FOR THE CITY. I don't want them in Chicago b/c they couldn't do my
>city justice. It might end up looking like someplace in Texas.
--
I'd like to see them film D.C. Most of the middle-class
population is running scared to the suburbs. Opening
a business there (especially if you're Asian in some
parts) could be a death wish. Filming the city alone
would be an eye-opener to everyone whose impression
of the city is from movies and television (which tend
to shoot the ground only in areas where people are hired
to clean it on an hourly basis, favoring the air shots), showing
it for the rat hole that it really is.
The first big adventure would be finding their way around,
the road system is so screwy (can't let those terrorists find
the Capitol too easily) that I can go somewhere every week
and still get lost on the way home each time.
Cathi Madden
(cmma...@usa.pipeline.com)
> Filming the city alone
>would be an eye-opener to everyone whose impression
>of the city is from movies and television (which tend
>to shoot the ground only in areas where people are hired
>to clean it on an hourly basis, favoring the air shots), showing
>it for the rat hole that it really is.
>
Cathi,
Not to knock your idea, but when, o when, have we EVER gotten a feel for
the city??? Do you know what the outdoor shots for a RWDC would be?
Angled views of the monuments and outside the groovy Georgetown pad.
Shots in the beautiful and clean subway. Shots of the kids visiting the
Smithsonian. Perhaps a picnic in front of the Lincoln or Washington
Memorial--no better! The Wall!! So they could show the kid who's uncle
died there crying. O, so moving.
AND THAT'S IT! That's all we got of London, SF, or LA (didn't see NY, but
I doubt it showed more). You would NOT get a feel for the city. That is
NOT what the show is about. We would mostly see footage shot IN THE
HOUSE, where the roomies are INTERACTING.
>The first big adventure would be finding their way around,
>the road system is so screwy (can't let those terrorists find
>the Capitol too easily) that I can go somewhere every week
>and still get lost on the way home each time.
NO JOKE. How abouty how those damn Beltway exit numbers change
dramatically from state to state! Don't Maryland and Virgina *speak* to
each other?!?!? And those exit ramps that do 360+ degrees so you have NO
IDEA which direction you're heading.
I tried to get off at a Virginia Tourist Info Booth. It was 11:30pm, not
a real safe thing to do, but I had missed a mislabled exit and could NOT
reverse my steps. So, info booth it was--except after you exit, you can
turn left or right--NO SIGN INDICATING WHICH WAY THE INFO BOOTH WAS!!!
Suddenly I'm in rural Virgina. Luckily, I came to an open 7-11 with an
English speaking cashier who pointed me back through a scary. dark, windy,
direction-changing street that took me back where I needed to go. I was
within 5 miles of my destination the whole time, but there was NO WAY for
a non-local to figure it out.
We saw Sharon get Lars completely lost in London. Do we really need
another scene of lost roomies?
RW1: New idea, MTV tries it out locally. It's a smash!
RW2: Let's go to CA. It worked for _Laverne and Shirley_! We'll do a
bitchin' CA pad!
RW3: Those "painted ladies" in SF are so cool, let's go there next.
RW4: Let's do a CASTLE! London it is.
RW5: Too much rain, let's go to sunny Miami where we can set up another
beach house PLUS have crew around and ready for the MTV's Spring Break
shows.
RW6: Let's do a dude ranch!!
Yes, RW locations are picked by INTERIOR DECORATORS! They'll never come
to Chicago, b/c our gorgeous skyline is due to that Chicago invention:
the SKYSCRAPER. They can't afford to do a 50-60 story building for 6
months!!
Then again: PENTHOUSE! With LAKE VIEWS! Or the o so common condo
overlooking Wrigley Field (like, those are *always* vacant). Of course,
no ball playing during most of the season =(. What happened to the Torco
sign, anyway?
: I'd like to see them film D.C. Most of the middle-class
: population is running scared to the suburbs. Opening
True enough...the middle class is more or less gone from the city
itself. Even the first ring of suburbs is changing into 'haves' and
'have-nots.'
: a business there (especially if you're Asian in some
: parts) could be a death wish. Filming the city alone
: would be an eye-opener to everyone whose impression
: of the city is from movies and television (which tend
: to shoot the ground only in areas where people are hired
: to clean it on an hourly basis, favoring the air shots), showing
: it for the rat hole that it really is.
MTV make something educational? Heh... good one. I can't count the
number of times I've seen tourists here shocked. How many times I've
heard 'mommy, does that man LIVE in the park?' etc etc etc. It might
open up America's eyes to what life is really like in DC.
: The first big adventure would be finding their way around,
: the road system is so screwy (can't let those terrorists find
: the Capitol too easily) that I can go somewhere every week
: and still get lost on the way home each time.
Bah...I disagree, as long as you avoid the avenues. I just took a new
route into the city today, and as long as you know you're going to 15th &
E NW, or some such place it's pretty easy.
--
Jason Mayfield
Arlington, VA
>E NW, or some such place it's pretty easy.
>
Bah right back. I'd end up in SE, NE or SW
every time. I just avoid driving down there
now. In college my friends and I used to always
go to the Dome (Cellar now) or Tracks -- every
week we'd end up somewhere else first.
Don't ask me why we didn't just stick closer
to home. If I go anywhere down there,
it's via the metro with my husband (who has
declared himself Metro/Marc King).
Cathi Madden
(cmma...@usa.pipeline.com)
>I doubt it showed more). You would NOT get a feel for the city. That is
>NOT what the show is about. We would mostly see footage shot IN THE
>HOUSE, where the roomies are INTERACTING.
Point taken -- (hanging my head in shame for
even bringing up the idea)
>
>>The first big adventure would be finding their way around,
>>the road system is so screwy (can't let those terrorists find
>>the Capitol too easily) that I can go somewhere every week
>>and still get lost on the way home each time.
>
>NO JOKE. How abouty how those damn Beltway exit numbers change
>dramatically from state to state! Don't Maryland and Virgina *speak* to
>each other?!?!? And those exit ramps that do 360+ degrees so you have NO
>IDEA which direction you're heading.
My favorite is driving down one street
in the city which all of a sudden turns
into another street. Yeah -- lovely
wagon wheel you've got there. . .
I still haven't found a map that is
correct with all of that. Then again,
some of the potholes should have their
own names.
>I tried to get off at a Virginia Tourist Info Booth. It was 11:30pm, not
>a real safe thing to do, but I had missed a mislabled exit and could NOT
>reverse my steps. So, info booth it was--except after you exit, you can
>turn left or right--NO SIGN INDICATING WHICH WAY THE INFO BOOTH WAS!!!
>Suddenly I'm in rural Virgina. Luckily, I came to an open 7-11 with an
>English speaking cashier who pointed me back through a scary. dark, windy,
>direction-changing street that took me back where I needed to go. I was
>within 5 miles of my destination the whole time, but there was NO WAY for
>a non-local to figure it out.
I don't believe you. No -- I take that
back. The English-speaking 7-11 worker
was in Virginia, not DC.
Which reminds me. The other day I bought
some stuff at the 7-11 that rang up to $7.11.
The cashier looked at me. He said, "That'll be
. . seven . . . dollars and eleven . . . cents.
"I said, "Go ahead, just say it." "That'll cost
you."
>We saw Sharon get Lars completely lost in London. Do we really need
>another scene of lost roomies?
Somehow I see London less scary in which to
be lost. Have you ever had a bum throw a
pencil near you to run over like a madman,
grunting, to pick it up?
Cathi Madden
(cmma...@usa.pipeline.com)
>Point taken -- (hanging my head in shame for
>even bringing up the idea)
>
>>
No!!! I was already ranting cause of those big ol' Texans claiming to be
the only true southerners. No shame! No shame!
>>We saw Sharon get Lars completely lost in London. Do we really need
>>another scene of lost roomies?
>
>Somehow I see London less scary in which to
>be lost. Have you ever had a bum throw a
>pencil near you to run over like a madman,
>grunting, to pick it up?
No, but I've seen a guy (in a trench coat no less) masturbating on the El
in the middle of the afternoon. The DC subway system is SO NICE!!!
later---steve9mm
You're from Detroit and DC scared you?
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---ML COMPTON---
THIS WEEK'S HIGH POINTS - Hearing the new JESUS LIZARD album and thinking
that its pretty damn good, despite all the naysayers. MARK EITZEL live!
The man should be a star. Reading the wonderful TRAINSPOTTING by Irvine
Welsh and now I can't wait to see how they made a movie out of it. Finally
getting off the freenet and on to a provider that provides.
>>Hookers everywhere.
Detroit!? Do you know any of the Red Wings?
>:|
Cathi Madden
(cmma...@usa.pipeline.com)
> On Apr 23, 1996 19:30:04 in article <Maybe it will be TEXAS>,
> 'tarv...@aol.com (Tarvin 14)' wrote:
>
>
> >RW2: Let's go to CA. It worked for _Laverne and Shirley_! We'll do a
> >bitchin' CA pad!
>
> Wasn't that supposed to be Milwaukee?
Laverne and Shirley used to be in Milwaukee, and then for some reason the
entire cast moved from there to the California in the last gasping seasons
of the show. Seemed to work for a very little while but it just got more
absurd and gratefully died.
> >
> >Then again: PENTHOUSE! With LAKE VIEWS! Or the o so common condo
> >overlooking Wrigley Field (like, those are *always* vacant). Of course,
> >no ball playing during most of the season =(. What happened to the Torco
> >sign, anyway?
The Torco sign was leased to Southwest Airlines. It is pretty odd seeing a
game at Wrigley Field and seeing this Southwest Ad where the Torco sign
belongs. Southwest only has the sign for a year.
Jer,
--
Jerome Jahnke
BSD Academic Computing
University of Chicago
j-ja...@uchicago.edu
>Yes, RW locations are picked by INTERIOR DECORATORS! They'll never come
>to Chicago, b/c our gorgeous skyline is due to that Chicago invention:
>the SKYSCRAPER. They can't afford to do a 50-60 story building for 6
>months!!
>Then again: PENTHOUSE! With LAKE VIEWS! Or the o so common condo
>overlooking Wrigley Field (like, those are *always* vacant). Of course,
>no ball playing during most of the season =(. What happened to the Torco
>sign, anyway
if the producers had some guts, they would
#1 go to a small city or
#2 go suburban.
this big city stuff kills me. i want these people to have to work or
die of boredom!!! i also think it would be fun to see how much character the
'cast' has when placed in a culture vacuum!! take a way the world famous
surroundins and see what happens. meet billy, he drives an hour a day on
streets clogged with minivans, past identical strip malls as far as the eye
can see.......... maybe they'll all go to wal-mart!!!!!!! watch the fight
over who blocked who in the driveway!!!!. even better, the growing animosity
over tony not mowing the lawn.... or becky won't shovel snow. this could be
fun. we would see our lives are not unique in their mundanity