Rethink on the Remake
FishFood
of the new Prisoner. But having watched to its conclusion, I have
to say there was enough in this re-evocation to say it was very much
in the spirit of the original. Very much of its times.
The final twist, the engineering of that selfless trap, as well as
the parallel realities leading up to that final epiphany were very
well done.
I dare say in a decade's time all we'll see, or be allowed to see
of this series, will be its striking location and its sense of
fashion.... oh hum.
redcat
I see you've eaten deeply of the cherry cake.
Know what I think of the selfless trap? I think Michael was such a
cipher in his "real life" that inserting himself where he did in the end
(I'm trying not to spoil this for anyone who has yet to see it)is the
only thing that gave his life any order and meaning. He was pretty much
getting pinballed around New York and the Village, all with that sappy
my-diaper-is-wet expression on his face. But now he would be in
control... or would he?
Dewey
@newsfe21.iad:
It sucked.
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"You are, number 6"
- The New Number 2
David Catterall
> Know what I think of the selfless trap? I think Michael was such a
> cipher in his "real life" that inserting himself where he did in the end
> (I'm trying not to spoil this for anyone who has yet to see it)is the
> only thing that gave his life any order and meaning. He was pretty much
> getting pinballed around New York and the Village, all with that sappy
> my-diaper-is-wet expression on his face. But now he would be in
> control... or would he?
redcat,
I watched a couple of episodes of which one was the last. The basic plots
were quite good and I think I would have enjoyed them if the setting had
been an original one and not a mangled version of something we have all
loved for the last 40 years.
Cheers,
>David
Dewey
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If the show had been totally unrelated to the original it might have
been bearable. Clevelial (sp?) was horrible no matter how you slice it
and the parts with the holes and the pigs was silly even for British TV.
The diner blowing up was never explained and completely irrational. And
the story lines were so short and disjointed. The brother thing. The
spying thing. The marriage thing. All these came and went in a single
episode with nothing remotely resembling explanation. The original might
have been confusing in its overarching themes but individual episodes
were explained and understandable (except the last 2 perhaps). For
example we were never left wondering why they drugged him in A,B and C.
And in Free for All, it's not like the episodes ends with 6 becoming #2
only to find in the next episode he isn't. Finally, the remake never
makes any attempt to explain why Michael is in the village. In the
original we may not know the exact details of who runs the village, etc,
but we know that he's quit some highly sensitive job and has
"information" and that the Village is a prison. In the remake we cannot
tell if it's a prison or a hospital.
FishFood
Your last point is precisely why i've come to like the series.
That ambiguity between the real and the imaged. The village
is apparently populated with the lives previously selected
by 6, in that way the village could just as easily be a fiction
created in his mind, as a real life prison for those unfortunates.
Mental or real, the village is a sophisticated snare for those
who learn too much. For better or worst, 6 is bound to what he
learns. The rest, your other questions, are posed like hooks,
for those who are able to related to the subtext, the experience
as it comes and goes and comes again.
I still have my reservations, but on the whole i'd say its a
noble effort to share and hold a thought....
FishFood
Its follows a different pace, its more than the pat workman-like
plots you are perhaps use to, but i don't think it sucks. If you
dont get it now, then you might later on down the line. Its one
of those series to be picked at for its meaning.
Moor Larkin
Gallagher *planned* for it to go, but for whatever reasons they were
never able to complete the project properly and so somebody was left
with lots of footage, which they pieced together like a jigsaw -
except they kept cutting off the knobbly bits for ease of completion.
The result was mostly tedious, occasionally very annoying and
sometimes just stupid and pointlessly ridiculous whilst implying a
profundity it completely lacked.
Number One and his new clothes perhaps.... Certainly every bit as bad
as the Americans said it was.
Seen it. Best to let it be.
FishFood
Well you would say that, wouldn't you.
Anything insightful will have its automatic detractors leading
the sheep away from water. Just look at the barren alternatives.
Moor Larkin
Graeme
> I have to say there was enough in this re-evocation to say it was very much
> in the spirit of the original. Very much of its times.
Why do you "have" to say it was good when you don't seem to "have" to
say anything specifically good about it? Makes no sense.
> I dare say in a decade's time all we'll see, or be allowed to see
> of this series, will be its striking location and its sense of
> fashion.... oh hum.
Nobody will care about it in a decade. It will be remembered, if at
all, as merely one of the many awful remakes of 60's shows that were
done around that time. It was simply too poorly written. They had a
decent idea or two but failed to execute them properly, leaving the
audience to write half the story themselves.
Legend-11
Normally I'd ask someone to expand, but having seen it....I couldn't
have put it better myself. :)
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Legend-11.