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RYAN HANEY

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May 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/6/00
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we all know that Miss Parker's mother was killed by someone at the
Centre, but with tonight's ep with the empty casket, I'm thinking that
she might still be alive and that the Centre, especially Mr. Parker,
covered up the truth from Miss Parker after all these years. Your
comments!!!

Georgia

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May 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/6/00
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I know ...it leads me to believe that she could be alive too....but
how? I don't know how they are going to go with this. Raines killed
Edna......why would he kill her if CP was still alive? can't wait to
see what happens...

Laters,
G


FewdfreakER

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May 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/6/00
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No matter how good it would be to have Catherine alive, for MP
and all, I don't want her to be alive. I'm not a Catherine hater
or anything, but I'd like to see one thing that's for sure, and
not just in the gray.

Anyone know whata mean?
L.

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KIMMYANN12

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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Quess I dont have to watch my tape of tonights episode now that part of the
plot has been spoiled right in the heading.

Kim

Uboyle

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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>From: RYAN HANEY

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A friend of mine sent me an e-mail last week asking the same question. I'm now
beginning to wonder myself...
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JWelch7208

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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Wouldnt it be interesting if it turned out the Miss Parker is actually her
Catherine brainwashed?..

VNDragon32

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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Some Spoilers.....


I think that a lot of things are hinting that Catherine Parker is still alive,
just being kept somewhere in the Centre or some other Centre facility and has
been "re-educated." They did this with Edna Raines and Fennigore. And since the
re-education thing has been occuring more often now, I think there's a good
chance she's still alive somewhere.

~~Dragon Lady~~

Lady Grygon

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VNDragon32 <vndra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> ~~Dragon Lady~~

Do you happen to hang out over at AFD? Just curious... sorry for getting
OT.

Mary E Shepard

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This thought had occurred to me also. Someone (sorry I cannot remember
who)said that the Pretender creators, in a chat, said it wasn't a coincidence
that MP and her mother looked so much alike. Only problem is, wouldn't
Catherine be at least in her 50's now? No way MP is a 50ish or older woman,
unless of course the Centre has discovered the fountain of youth in SL27.

Mary Ellen

Pat Mc

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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VNDragon32 >

Pat>>I didn't see anything to suggest that Edna had been "re-educated."
Where did you get that idea?


V. Margaret McKenney

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May 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/7/00
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I do rember this question a year ago when
Finigore was suposed to be dead.And the Question of is CP still
alive.Now how about this.CP was shot by a gun loaded by blanks?
From Andy


JENNIFER DENAUGHEL

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"V. Margaret McKenney" <za...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Maybe. Or what if Raines was secretly in love with Catherine and maybe he
helped her fake her death to save her from the Triumvirate...Nah!!! But
that would explain his 'attraction' to Miss Parker. Scary thought...EEK
what if Raines turns out to really be the good guy in all this and not the
villain...NOT!!!
I think she is alive and on the run with Margaret, Jarod's mom. They both
went underground and Emily is on her own searching for Jarod and Major
Charles.
JenJen

Nielle Hehe

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May 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/8/00
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Hey there, am a lurker from OZ,

"V. Margaret McKenney" wrote:
> I do rember this question a year ago when
> Finigore was suposed to be dead.And the Question of is CP still
> alive.Now how about this.CP was shot by a gun loaded by blanks?
> From Andy

Isn't there -still- a bullet hole in the elevator she was shot in?

--
"How do you pronounce your name?"

"With reverence."

Nielle, The Divine Ms. Ñ

gcar...@my-deja.com

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May 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/8/00
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In article <3915FC19...@banet.net>,

This thought has been nagging away at me, too, since the above-mentioned
chat. I see two possibilities (there may be more, I only see 2 at the
moment). Either would seem to fit the theme of "mirage," if the point
is that MP's whole life has been a mirage:

1) MP is CP, but has been brainwashed with false memories of MP. I
think this would be very cool for the storytelling potential it would
create. It would make MP a contemporary of Syd's and Mr. Parker's--how
freaky would that be?--and would lead into a great crisis of identity
for MP, her attempts to regain her memory of life as CP, etc.). It
might also explain another motive for DP having Thomas killed (I still
suspect he was ultimately behind that order). Problems with this
theory:
a) MP is not as old as CP would be....how did they manage to halt her
aging process? Cryogenic freeze or some other medical miracle cooked up
by Dr. Raines?
b) Was there ever a Miss Parker? Because we've seen memories of MP
as a child from both MP's POV and Jarod's POV (not to mention Sydney).
If so, what happened to the real MP? If not, what did they do: Plant
false memories into CP, Jarod, AND Syd? That seems like a lot of work
to me.
c) This would raise the question for me of how does Lyle fit in? I
thought we'd seen disks revealing the births of Lyle (or at least,
another baby) and MP....
d) Would DP still be married to CP? If so, then his marriage to
Brigitte would make him a bigamist (not that he'd care, but...)
e) I don't see how the spoilers about Ethan's relationship to MP and
Jarod would fit in if MP were actually CP--UNLESS, that clip that shows
MP saying "Jarod and I share a brother??" comes before the big
revelation that MP is CP--in which case, Ethan would be her son, not her
brother.

2) MP is CP's clone, not her daughter. I'm more inclined to buy this
theory rather than the first, especially since we know the Centre has
had the ability to clone for a while now, and they have successfully
cloned Jarod. Maybe MP was their first cloning experiment? Problems
with this theory:
a) I know nothing about cloning, but would the clone be in infant form
and mature at the usual human rate? If not, we're stuck again with the
question about memories MP, Jarod, and Syd all have of MP as a little
girl.
b) Again, the video of MP's/Lyle's birth would have to be explained
away. Wait--was Faith older or younger than MP? If she was younger,
then perhaps MP IS CP's clone, and Faith was Lyle's twin???
This would certainly resolve my gripe about how they originally
had Lyle graduating in a year that would have made him much
younger than MP, but then suddenly, he was "discovered" to be
her twin. Or maybe there's yet another younger sibling who is
Lyle's twin who has yet to be introduced on the show? Hmmm.....
c) Wouldn't CP have objected to being cloned???? Even if she didn't
find out about it until after the fact, wouldn't it have been creepy for
her to raise her own clone as her daughter???

As you can see, all this speculation merely raises more questions than
it answers (which seems to be the show's specialty). And it's making my
head hurt. :-)

Anyone care to jump into the speculation fun?


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Pat Mc

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May 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/8/00
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Yes, Catherine Parker would be older than MP. They are not the same. Not
possible. Faith was adopted. MP cannot be a clone because the first clone
was J2 and he was half her age when he was freed. MP was a child and grew
up normally. People are not suspended in animation or frozen and thawed
later on.

Pat

Tea thymes

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May 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/11/00
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>
>2) MP is CP's clone, not her daughter. I'm more inclined to buy this
>theory rather than the first, especially since we know the Centre has
>had the ability to clone for a while now, and they have successfully
>cloned Jarod. Maybe MP was their first cloning experiment?
I have thought about this for a long time. it is possible. I do have a
question. when the gang went tot he farm last year and saw Jaord's clone,
weren't there Failed clones. I got the imppression that the Jarod clone was the
first successful clone, but maybe it was the first sucessful clone of Jaorod.


>This would certainly resolve my gripe about how they originally>had Lyle
graduating in a year that would have made him much>younger than MP, but then
suddenly, he was "discovered" to be
>her twin.

If he was fostered out,maybe the agency didn't know his birth date. I have
friends that adopted young children and don't know exactly how old the kids
are.

Or maybe there's yet another younger sibling who is
>Lyle's twin who has yet to be introduced on the show? Hmmm.....


OOh I like this theory. Actually I still think that ANgelo is Parker's twin


> c) Wouldn't CP have objected to being cloned???? Even if she didn't
>find out about it until after the fact, wouldn't it have been creepy for
>her to raise her own clone as her daughter???

There is a possiblilty that she didn't know that they wee cloning her. I don't
know much about clones either, but is the writers can assume that cloning can
be achieved, then why not go one step further and say that the cloning started
with a drop of blood?


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>As you can see, all this speculation merely raises more questions than
>it answers (which seems to be the show's specialty). And it's making my
>head hurt. :-)
>

>Lori
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