Miss Parker's first name???
Gary C
"Miss Parker". Isn't it kinda odd that a "brother" would call his "sister"
Miss Parker???
Has Miss Parker's first name EVER been revealed?
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>
I figure it's "Miss".
Janice
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>Welcome to the Pretender newsgroup, Gary. Her first name is "Miller".
>(didn't we decide that was as good as anything anybody has come up with so
>far?)
No, uh-uh, I'm still rooting for Myrtle. Or possibly Maevis...
(Welcome, Gary!)
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"Pat" <syld...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Welcome to the Pretender newsgroup, Gary. Her first name is "Miller".
> (didn't we decide that was as good as anything anybody has come up with so
> far?)
>
>
I think that was me who suggested it, largely
because they're building Miller Park
obscenely close to where I live. So of course
I could just bribe someone to add two letters,
thus making the morning commute fun for so
many more.
Of course by this logic her name could also
turn out to be MacArthur.
Madrigal
somewhere Aaron Neville and Crystal Gale
are singing about this
> Gary C
> > I noticed something odd a week or two ago. Lyle referred to Miss Parker
> as
> > "Miss Parker". Isn't it kinda odd that a "brother" would call his
> "sister"
> > Miss Parker???
> >
> > Has Miss Parker's first name EVER been revealed?
>
>
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:09:44 GMT, suza...@spammeikillyou.com
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>On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:09:41 -0600, "Pat" <syld...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Welcome to the Pretender newsgroup, Gary. Her first name is "Miller".
>>(didn't we decide that was as good as anything anybody has come up with so
>>far?)
>
>No, uh-uh, I'm still rooting for Myrtle. Or possibly Maevis...
>
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>>Has Miss Parker's first name EVER been revealed?
>>
>
>I figure it's "Miss".
>
>Janice
That wouldn't be too far from believable; a few years ago I lived
next door to a 10 year old boy named "Sir" (it wasn't a nickname,
that was his birth certificate name). I asked his mother about the
odd name, and she told me she wanted to be sure her son was
shown respect. I guess it didn't occur to her that respect is
earned, not freely given.
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MP's name for oh almost a month. : - )
I am not knocking the thread, Gary. It is fun to see everyone post their
opinion and rationals. It is also fun to see if anyone's opinion has changed.
>I noticed something odd a week or two ago. Lyle referred to Miss Parker as
>"Miss Parker". Isn't it kinda odd that a "brother" would call his "sister"
>Miss Parker???
>
>Has Miss Parker's first name EVER been revealed?
No - not to us.
We know that Jarod knows her first name. But even last season her boyfriend
Thomas just called her Parker.
We don't really know the full names of any of the tP main characters (although
there is some discussion about Sydney's).
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I am still going for Mary Catherine.
Hepse
eva broman
Hi!
I'm not American, so I can be totally wrong about this, but doesn't the P in
WASP stand for Protestant? Or maybe WASP has come to mean any white, upper
middle-class person, regardless of religious affiliation?
Since we don't have this concept/designation in my country (Sweden), mainly
because up until quite recently everyone was white and protestant (though we
did have our rich and poor, of course!), I've always wondered what WASP
really stands for. To me Miss Parker seems to be have had a typical upper
class upbringing (piano classes, prep school, probably a prestigious
college), though she certainly doesn't behave as your typical preppie....I
mean, some of her sarcastic one-liners are pretty low down and dirty ("I
want to kill her, not screw her!":-)), but then again I may be totally
misguided concerning proper upper class behaviour!
T.C. Eva
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Madrigal
<E78C525C4ED27723.F2B72A0E...@lp.airnews.net>,
"Pat" <syld...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, we "know" it has to start with the letter "M" and her father may
just
> be Ben Miller, so that is how we got to the "Miller" first name.
AFAIK,
> General MacArthur was nowhere around at the time she was conceived,
although
> this would add a certain historical aspect to the show.
>
> Pat
>
Ummm, I was referring to the song "MacArthur Park". Y'know "someone
left the cake out in the rain/ and I'll never have that recipe again"?
True it probably post-dates her, unless the song was written by someone
at the Centre who knew her.
Madrigal
somewhere Aaron Neville and Crystal Gale are singing about this
> Madrigal> I think that was me who suggested it, largely
> > because they're building Miller Park
> > obscenely close to where I live. So of course
> > I could just bribe someone to add two letters,
> > thus making the morning commute fun for so
> > many more.
> >
> > Of course by this logic her name could also
> > turn out to be MacArthur.
>
>
--
JW Bosch
> not if they were together in a work capacity. And you might notice that
> she always calls him "Mr. Lyle" (with a slight note of disgust)
>
>
She did call him some other names, but they were probably not his name, if you
know what I'm meaning
Leo
JW Bosch
> I thought it was decided unanimously that her first name was Nosy.
Hi newbie too. Pretender addict since a few weeks, but since a lot of
eps. We get the show *4* times a week!!!
And that's the best name I ever heard
Leontien
JW Bosch
You know I was wondering what Thomas was going to call her. Poor guy
L
RSteph1981
close to becoming a nun (actually, she'd probably have been better off) so she
is obviously very Catholic. Also, Mary is old-fashioned and a little soft--
the image MP would be sure NEVER to project. And lastly, I don't think her
middle name is Catherine because I don't really think CP would name her
daughter after herself (don't ask me why, I just thought of it that way)
Once again restating myself for the benefit of . . .well. . .me
Rebecca
Snowy
>>Welcome to the Pretender newsgroup, Gary. Her first name is "Miller".
>>(didn't we decide that was as good as anything anybody has come up with so
>>far?)
>No, uh-uh, I'm still rooting for Myrtle. Or possibly Maevis...
hmmmm...and here I thought her name was Murphy! *g*
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>We don't really know the full names of any of the tP main characters (although
>there is some discussion about Sydney's).
Character Names:
Jarod. He was told his last name was Russell, but found out that was a lie.
Kyle (Jarod's younger brother). No last name. Killed by Mr. Lyle.
Emily (Jarod's younger sister). No last name.
Margaret (Jarod's mother). No last name.
Major Charles (Jarod's father). Charles might be a first name or a last name.
Jarod 2 (aka Gemini; Jarod's clone). No first or last name.
Angelo (aka Timmy). No last name.
Dannie/Einnad (one of the Red Files). No last name. A failed experiment by Mr.
Raines - he developed a chemical dependency to the drugs used to keep
his violent side under control. Last seen assigned under Sydney for
therapy.
Miss Parker. No first name, but it might begin with 'M'.
Thomas Gates (Miss Parker's boyfriend). Killed by persons unknown.
Mr. Lyle (Miss Parker's twin brother). Mr. Raines may have named him Robert
Arkham (source: his adoption papers); his adopted parents called him
Robert Bowman. He took the name Lyle from his adopted Father (Lyle
Bowman).
Faith Parker (Miss Parker's adopted sister). Died of natural causes.
Mr. Parker. No first name.
Catherine Parker (Miss Parker's mother). Killed by persons unknown.
Brigitte Parker. Mr. Parker's current wife.
Sydney. No last name.
Jacob (Sydney's twin brother). No last name. Died of a brain disorder,
possibly brought on by complications of trauma/coma from a car crash
caused by persons unknown.
Michelle Lucca Stamatis (Sydney's girlfriend and mother of his son).
Nicholas Stamatis (Sydney's son by Michelle).
Jean (Sydney's and Jacob's father). No last name. Killed at Dachau.
Greta (Sydney's and Jacob's mother). No last name. Killed at Dachau.
William Raines.
Mrs. Raines?
Annie Raines (Mr. Raines' daughter). Killed by a psychopath.
Mr. Fenigor. No first name.
Mr. Broots. No first name.
Mrs. Broots? (Broots' ex-wife; mother of Debbie). No first name.
Debbie Broots (Broots' daughter).
Delilah (Broots' online girlfriend). No last name.
Harriet Tashman (Catherine Parker's friend who sheltered Jarod's parents).
Ben Miller (Catherine Parker's friend; possibly Mr. Lyle's and Miss Parker's
real father).
Garr (Cleaner/Sweeper). No last name. Killed by Sydney, probably by accident.
Sam (Cleaner/Sweeper). No last name.
Willie (Cleaner/Sweeper). No last name.
Mutumbo (aka Big Mutumbo; member of the Centre Triumvirate). Mutumbo could be
a first or last name.
"Madam Director" (Director of the Centre; possibly a member of the
Triumvirate). No first or last name.
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Tetsuya Hara
Welcome to alt.tv.pretender!!
I sometimes read your post on va1587 list(Earth2 mailing-list)
but I saw you on pretender newsgroup for the first time.
Which season of pretender airs now in Netherlands?
Patrickphile
>sint...@aol.comnospam (Sint Ives) wrote:
>Character Names:
>
>Sydney. No last name.
>Jacob (Sydney's twin brother). No last name. Died of a brain disorder,
> possibly brought on by complications of trauma/coma from a car crash
> caused by persons unknown.
>Michelle Lucca Stamatis (Sydney's girlfriend and mother of his son).
>Nicholas Stamatis (Sydney's son by Michelle).
>Jean (Sydney's and Jacob's father). No last name. Killed at Dachau.
>Greta (Sydney's and Jacob's mother). No last name. Killed at Dachau.
Small correction here. Sydney and Jacob's father was Jean-Michel.
>Garr (Cleaner/Sweeper). No last name. Killed by Sydney, probably by
accident.
Oh, it was an accident all right...no one was supposed to be down there when
the bomb went off. Interesting too that we never saw Gar (one R by the way)
there at all, and yet he's the one who died. Hmmm....
Deb <thinking Ana will be happen with that last comment>
P.S. Very nice job on this list, Michael. :-)
Patrickphile
>Thanks for the correction to Gar's name. As to the comment about his
death --
>what do you suggest I say? I originally wrote that Gar was murdered by
Sydney,
>but changed it when somebody here objected to that wording. Are you
suggesting
>that I should change it to something like "Possibly killed by Sydney"?
>
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Well, how about, "Accidentally killed by the blast in SL-27" or something to
that effect? Of course, Ana would say that Gar lives. ;-)
Deb
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"Pat" <syld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:E78C525C4ED27723.F2B72A0E...@lp.airnews.net...
> Well, we "know" it has to start with the letter "M" and her father may
just
> be Ben Miller, so that is how we got to the "Miller" first name. AFAIK,
> General MacArthur was nowhere around at the time she was conceived,
although
> this would add a certain historical aspect to the show.
>
> Pat
>
>
Michael Quinlan
>>Jean (Sydney's and Jacob's father). No last name. Killed at Dachau.
>
>Small correction here. Sydney and Jacob's father was Jean-Michel.
Thanks!
>>Garr (Cleaner/Sweeper). No last name. Killed by Sydney, probably by
>accident.
>
>Oh, it was an accident all right...no one was supposed to be down there when
>the bomb went off. Interesting too that we never saw Gar (one R by the way)
>there at all, and yet he's the one who died. Hmmm....
Thanks for the correction to Gar's name. As to the comment about his death --
Michael Quinlan
>P.S. Very nice job on this list, Michael. :-)
The list is really a compilation of contributions from other people here. I
put it together because I thought it would be fun, and maybe helpful.
Janice
>WASP stand for Protestant?
Yes. White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, to be more exact.
>Or maybe WASP has come to mean any white, upper
>middle-class person, regardless of religious affiliation?
It has become a "catch-all" phrase and is often used without regard to
religious affiliation. The WASP label is most often applied to well-to-do
caucasions of European descent.
I think you have a pretty good grasp on how the phrase is commonly used in
North America.
Janice
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own name?
Gary C <gar...@mindspring.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
811tq0$c1b$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net...
Brigitte Latella
blue_moon ha scritto:
> in the subtitels she is called Andrea Parker, could it be that she uses her
> own name?
>
I don't think so...her name should begin with M...(see Christmas episode season
1...and look very carefully!!!)
lisi
maybe *Miss* is her first name. Some people here in Austria are calling
*miss* .. but it愀 really serios.. maybe the creators doesn愒 know the first
name of our favourite character.. or the first name is Andrea -- by the
actress .. ohhh .. that愀 a serios thing......
bye
-lisi
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Brigitte Latella <kir...@bluewin.ch> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Muirnin
ask DP what his name was... DP whispered in his ear and the preacher said Mr
Parker...
I'm beginning to think that his First name is MR...
so, going on that theory... her name would be MISS Parker...
But then they are so twisted at the Centre, but answer this...
If Lyle is DP's Son... or better yet... since he IS MP's brother...
why is he called MR Lyle.. & Not Mr Parker???? Cause his name isn't Lyle
Parker...
Just more to make you go Hmmmmmmmm....
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Keeper of Miss Parker's line " *snaps fingers* HELLO!!? Are you paying
attention?!?"
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: could it be that the M is the M of Miss.???
: >
:
:
Brigitte Latella
blue_moon ha scritto:
> could it be that the M is the M of Miss.???
I think it would have been too strange that a present for his mother will be
signed with Miss...
Trevor
what mine was but it was such a part of my identity that I signed cards with
it and used the initials....
of course I am of the school that thinks her first name was Catherine, and
they called her "little miss parker....and then just "miss parker" from the
very beginning. It would be natural if you had Mr. Parker, Mrs. Parker...
then along comes Miss Parker. It would also explain Daddy always calling
her Angel, not using Catherine first because of the confusion and later
because of the memories. Apologies to all of you who have heard this theory
dozens of times...obviously I am holding out til the bitter end.
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Suzanna
> Meet, Miss Mehitable Angelique Parker, named after her maiden great-
> aunt who still lives in the old country. ;-D
*LOL* Yeah, man, I vote for THIS one! :oD
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Rebeckah
since I posted anyway.)
My personal favorites are Angelica or Angelique, because Parker would
DIE if anyone called her either of them. <g> BUT, because of the whole
initial "M" thing I've come up with one more nomination. Those of you
with weak stomachs might want to close your eyes for this...
Meet, Miss Mehitable Angelique Parker, nambed after her maiden great-
aunt who still lives in the old country. ;-D
Rebeckah
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Keeper of Miss Parker's line: "It's simple; Raines dead, me happy."
Keeper AND Defender of Raines shriveled heart
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Rebeckah
> Rebeckah wrote:
>
> > Meet, Miss Mehitable Angelique Parker, named after her maiden great-
> > aunt who still lives in the old country. ;-D
>
> *LOL* Yeah, man, I vote for THIS one! :oD
> --
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Rebeckah
happens to people connected with the Centre when they have two names!
MP may be a pain, but she's got the best one liners going and I DON'T
want her to wind up dead. ;-D
Rebeckah
In article <3842EBEB...@melbpc.org.au>,
Michael Quinlan
>Well I certainly HOPE you never use it in a story! We all knows what
>happens to people connected with the Centre when they have two names!
>MP may be a pain, but she's got the best one liners going and I DON'T
>want her to wind up dead. ;-D
Dr. William "Billy" Raines hasn't died yet, though he did seem to turn into a
Christian.
Madrigal
Rebeckah <rebe...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Okay, I can resist, I have to jump in too. (Hey, it's been a while
> since I posted anyway.)
>
> My personal favorites are Angelica or Angelique, because Parker would
> DIE if anyone called her either of them. <g> BUT, because of the
whole
> initial "M" thing I've come up with one more nomination. Those of you
> with weak stomachs might want to close your eyes for this...
>
> aunt who still lives in the old country. ;-D
>
> Keeper of Jarod's Teddy Bear
> Keeper of Miss Parker's line: "It's simple; Raines dead, me happy."
> Keeper AND Defender of Raines shriveled heart
> Keeper of Jarod's Pez Royalties
>
Bathsheba. I could see CP going for something like that.
Of course the question is which old country you're referring to.
Mehetabel might work if it's Amish country, but I'd go with the ever
winsome Mergatroyd. Fun to say, works well for both people and robots,
and it's Welsh for "Saint Margaret's Meadow" - which could have all
kinds of symbolic tie-ins and meanings.
And just to balance it out - maybe Evangeline - still contains the
angel. Just a more positive meaning of the word.
--
Madrigal
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Keeper of Jarod's shiny blankie
Keeper of Brigitte's plastic bouquet
Keeper of Emily's cute little tattoo
JW Bosch
> in the subtitels she is called Andrea Parker, could it be that she uses her
> own name?
Interesting... here we just get Parker as subtitled.... plain and simple
Leo
JW Bosch
I knew I knew the name from something! Season 3 to be exactly, we saw
Julia yesterday :-)
Leo
JW Bosch
> Thenk yew, Susannah, any other takers? ;-D
>
> Rebeckah
>
> > Rebeckah wrote:
> >
> > > Meet, Miss Mehitable Angelique Parker, named after her maiden great-
> > > aunt who still lives in the old country. ;-D
> >
I go for this one too, it does have Angel in it
Leontien
Rebeckah
Walking around with plastic tubes stuck up your nose and a squeaky
oxygen tank isn't my idea of living.
(But what does becoming a christian have to do with anything? Unless,
of course, God heals him???)
Rebeckah
Rebeckah
> Mehetabel - nice and biblical, right up there with Hepzibah and
> Bathsheba. I could see CP going for something like that.
>
> Of course the question is which old country you're referring to.
> Mehetabel might work if it's Amish country, but I'd go with the ever
> winsome Mergatroyd. Fun to say, works well for both people and
robots,
> and it's Welsh for "Saint Margaret's Meadow" - which could have all
> kinds of symbolic tie-ins and meanings.
>
> And just to balance it out - maybe Evangeline - still contains the
> angel. Just a more positive meaning of the word.
> --
> Madrigal
> "Occasionally I'm callous and strange."
I was afraid someone was going to ask about which old country.
Actually, I was thinking England, since names like that were popular
there about 200 years ago, but basically, I'd go for anyplace like
Florence or Guilder too. ;-)
Yes, Mergatroyd Evangeline works too!Rebeckah
Rebeckah
Keeper of Jarod's Teddy Bear
Keeper of Miss Parker's line: "It's simple; Raines dead, me happy."
Keeper AND Defender of Raines shriveled heart
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known)of - or rooted in - a SAINT's name, or at least a biblical one.
(Catherine, Jakob, Timmy, Charles, Margaret, Robert, Brigitte, William, Sidney,
Ben, Harriet, Debbie)
So that is may be really the key.
Thor
God of Thunder and Lightning
Protector of both gods and humans against the forces of evil and evil giants
(and I count the Center as a giant of its own kind!)
Patron of Jarod, as he fights this giant too
Keeper: I keep one eye on the Center's activities
Guardian of Miss Parkers efforts to leave the center
RickMBrown
it's not a stretch to "Miss" Parker. Oh, well, my guess is as unlikely as
anyone else's and at least it starts with "M."
Ricky B
Suzanna
>
> I find it interesting which characters on the show actually HAVE first names
> and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle, Mr. Rains, Miss Parker, Mr. Parker vs.
> Jarod, Sidney (probably), Bruts (possibly), Angelo. I think there is a good
> vs. evil connotation with the names.....last name only=bad. Of course, Miss
> Parker is kind of in-between but, at the beginning, she was bad.
That's a good point. All except Broots IS his last name (Mr. Broots,
father of Debbie Broots) and Mr. Raines has a first name (William) which
means that he's pretty much a walking dead man because in the show's
history, people acquiring both first AND last names have met an untimely
end. Which also indirectly means that Kyle is still alive. A HA,
another first name for your good vs. evil theory.
Katherine Bruce
were discussing her character's first name. Although she never said definitely
what it was (because, presumably, she didn't know) she did say that she hoped it
wasn't Andrea! Someone ask her again next time she shows up at a chat and post
the response here.
KB
xena
and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle, Mr. Rains, Miss Parker, Mr. Parker vs.
Jarod, Sidney (probably), Bruts (possibly), Angelo. I think there is a good
vs. evil connotation with the names.....last name only=bad. Of course, Miss
Parker is kind of in-between but, at the beginning, she was bad.
Catherine Parker seems to be one of the few characters that actually has
(had) a first and last name. Also, Thomas (can't remember his last name)
had both before The Center had him elimated!
Xena
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Passion
by NBC.com we think her name is 'Melissa' nick named to 'Missy',
shortened to 'Miss'. I suppose we shall see...yes? *big wide grin*
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Passion
and BOTH are now deceased! The only ONE of the Centre Suits I can think
of that has a full name is William Raines...while not deceased, he has
been "re-educated"...more or less, to a certain extent!
~PASSION~
JW Bosch
> I find it interesting which characters on the show actually HAVE first names
> and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle, Mr. Rains, Miss Parker, Mr. Parker vs.
> Jarod, Sidney (probably), Bruts (possibly), Angelo. I think there is a good
> vs. evil connotation with the names.....last name only=bad. Of course, Miss
> Parker is kind of in-between but, at the beginning, she was bad.
>
> Catherine Parker seems to be one of the few characters that actually has
> (had) a first and last name. Also, Thomas (can't remember his last name)
> had both before The Center had him elimated!
>
> Xena
That would be Thomas 'Tommy' Michael Gates if I remember correctly.... we get
PTB next wednesday....
Leo
xena
What was Jarod's Dad's name?
Suzanna <suza...@spammeikillyou.com> wrote in message
news:3848B45B...@spammeikillyou.com...
> xena wrote:
> >
> > I find it interesting which characters on the show actually HAVE first
names
> > and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle, Mr. Rains, Miss Parker, Mr. Parker
vs.
> > Jarod, Sidney (probably), Bruts (possibly), Angelo. I think there is a
good
> > vs. evil connotation with the names.....last name only=bad. Of course,
Miss
> > Parker is kind of in-between but, at the beginning, she was bad.
>
Suzanna
>
> Thanks for reminding me. I can't believe I forgot Jarod's brother.
>
> What was Jarod's Dad's name?
Major Charles. First or last name, we don't know.
Madrigal
"xena" <xe...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> I find it interesting which characters on the show actually HAVE first
names
> and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle, Mr. Rains, Miss Parker, Mr.
Parker vs.
> Jarod, Sidney (probably), Bruts (possibly), Angelo. I think there is
a good
> vs. evil connotation with the names.....last name only=bad. Of
course, Miss
> Parker is kind of in-between but, at the beginning, she was bad.
>
has
> (had) a first and last name. Also, Thomas (can't remember his last
name)
> had both before The Center had him elimated!
>
> Xena
>
It could have been a dissatisfied customer who thought he did a shoddy
job on their roof. Or maybe it was a girl scout cookie sale that went
horribly wrong.
Madrigal
"If the Apocalypse comes, beep me."
--
Keeper of Argyle's laminator
Keeper of Jarod's shiny blankie
Keeper of Brigitte's plastic bouquet
Keeper of Emily's cute little tattoo
Rebeckah
a last name isn't clear. ;-(
Actually, we aren't sure if Lyle is Mr. Lyle's first or last name
either. Technically he could be Lyle Parker, Robert Parker, Lyle
Bowman, Robert Lyle---just to give a few combinations of the
possibilities. Perhaps having three or more names removes you from the
Curse of Two Names, who knows? <g>
On the other hand, this last episode makes me wonder if Mr. Lyle is
going to bite the big one this year? I hope not---he's so wonderfully
nasty!!!
Fight, Mr. Denton! Don't let them kill you off! Who else could
say; "I love this part." with such innocent delight while watching
torture?
Rebeckah
Keeper of lot's of stuff listed elsewhere.
In article <RL924.1391$Ih4....@typhoon.columbus.rr.com>,
"xena" <xe...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> Thanks for reminding me. I can't believe I forgot Jarod's brother.
>
> What was Jarod's Dad's name?
>
> Suzanna <suza...@spammeikillyou.com> wrote in message
> news:3848B45B...@spammeikillyou.com...
> > xena wrote:
> > >
> > > I find it interesting which characters on the show actually HAVE
first
> names
> > > and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle, Mr. Rains, Miss Parker, Mr.
Parker
> vs.
> > > Jarod, Sidney (probably), Bruts (possibly), Angelo. I think
there is a
> good
> > > vs. evil connotation with the names.....last name only=bad. Of
course,
> Miss
> > > Parker is kind of in-between but, at the beginning, she was bad.
> >
> > That's a good point. All except Broots IS his last name (Mr.
Broots,
> > father of Debbie Broots) and Mr. Raines has a first name (William)
which
> > means that he's pretty much a walking dead man because in the show's
> > history, people acquiring both first AND last names have met an
untimely
> > end. Which also indirectly means that Kyle is still alive. A HA,
> > another first name for your good vs. evil theory.
> > --
> > ~Suzanna~
> > -GO Music & Lyrics-
> > -KO "Be My Valentine" heart & Broots' line, "His spleen's in
Spokane."-
> > to.e-mail.me.replace.spammeikillyou.and.replace.with.hotmail
>
>
G. M. Lupo
Matt Lupo
--
G. M. Lupo ham...@lupo.com
RSteph1981
why would DP ask her if she knew why he called her Angel? Besides that, he
once called Brigitte angel. You wouldn't call someone else by another person's
nickname, but if you wanted to hurt them, you might use a special term of
affection for someone that person (MP) hated (such as Bitchette).
Rebecca
Pat
spelled Jared.
Pat
lisi
you think her name is sydney or jarod ?? .... she´s a woman .. no guy...
bye
-lisi (ev...@hotmail.com)
-------------------------"I have a gun, and i use
it!"---------------------------
Madrigal
Emily Brigitte Debbie Catherine Harriet Sydney, which could have the
wonderful effect of confusing things enough that it would be impossible
to recognize a YAPI.
Madrigal
Ich mag das Ruhige -- Xander
--
Keeper of Argyle's laminator
Keeper of Jarod's shiny blankie
Keeper of Brigitte's plastic bouquet
Keeper of Emily's cute little tattoo
Madrigal
mhabe...@aol.com (MHaberm164) wrote:
> Well, nearly ALL characters, except Jarod; have a first name (as far
as
> known)of - or rooted in - a SAINT's name, or at least a biblical one.
> (Catherine, Jakob, Timmy, Charles, Margaret, Robert, Brigitte,
William, Sidney,
> Ben, Harriet, Debbie)
>
> So that is may be really the key.
>
> Thor
> Protector of both gods and humans against the forces of evil and evil
giants
> (and I count the Center as a giant of its own kind!)
> Patron of Jarod, as he fights this giant too
> Keeper: I keep one eye on the Center's activities
> Guardian of Miss Parkers efforts to leave the center
>
>
or saints names because of the religious founders. If all the names
were old testament, or all Greek, then there might be some recognizable
trend.
G. M. Lupo
> G.M. Lupo,
> you think her name is sydney or jarod ?? .... she愀 a woman .. no
> guy...
Sydney could be a woman or a man's name. As for Jarod, it could be
feminized as Jaroda or Jarodi.
Pat
Pat
> G.M. Lupo,
> you think her name is sydney or jarod ?? .... she愀 a woman .. no guy...
>
G. M. Lupo
> It's a troll, Lisi. That's all.
Four words: author profile on dejanews.
Andrew Smart
someone in to a b1tch
Rebeckah wrote in message <81u7pe$m1i$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Thenk yew, Susannah, any other takers? ;-D
>
>Rebeckah
>
>
>> Rebeckah wrote:
>>
>> > Meet, Miss Mehitable Angelique Parker, named after her maiden great-
>> > aunt who still lives in the old country. ;-D
>>
>> --
>> ~Suzanna~
>> -GO Music & Lyrics-
>> -KO "Be My Valentine" heart & Broots' line, "His spleen's in
>Spokane."-
>> to.e-mail.me.replace.spammeikillyou.and.replace.with.hotmail
>>
>
>
G. M. Lupo
> I am still thinking Missy or Misty either would go well to Miss and
> turn someone in to a b1tch
When she introduced herself to Hope she called herself "Miss" Parker.
Kind of formal for a girl in her teens.
Madrigal
first name around the children at the Centre from an early age. It
would reinforce the power structure, since she was the boss's daughter,
and help keep her distanced from Centre employees.
Madrigal
--
Keeper of Argyle's laminator
Keeper of Jarod's shiny blankie
Keeper of Brigitte's plastic bouquet
Keeper of Emily's cute little tattoo
G. M. Lupo
> It's been the theory here that DP probably prohibited MP from using
> her first name around the children at the Centre from an early age.
> It would reinforce the power structure, since she was the boss's
> daughter, and help keep her distanced from Centre employees.
That kind of makes sense. But you've got to wonder why she was hanging
around the Centre anyway? I mean, how often do you let your kids hang
around where you work, particulary if it's in a top secret facility? I
realize the Centre is a "special" place, so it doesn't necessarily
follow the rules of regular society.
Passion
With the possible exception of Broots, none of those at the Centre had
a "normal childhood".
I think Miss Parker was around at the Centre so much first, because her
parents were so highly involved in the Centre's "activities" and
probably there were security issues in the things they were involved
with. After the murder of Catherine, I think she was there so much more
because Mr. P is such a control freak. Now, she can't leave....they
won't let her.
G. M. Lupo
> Has ANYTHING about the Centre followed the "rules" of a normal
> society? With the possible exception of Broots, none of those at the
> Centre had a "normal childhood".
Broots is about the only character who comes anywhere close to having a
"normal" life. His daughter isn't involved in the Centre and we often
hear of him going on dates outside the Centre. I know MP had a
boyfriend for awhile, but I don't see anyone doing anything harmful to
any of Broots' girlfriends. Of course, a lot of them work where he
works, too.
> I think Miss Parker was around at the Centre so much first, because
> her parents were so highly involved in the Centre's "activities" and
> probably there were security issues in the things they were involved
> with. After the murder of Catherine, I think she was there so much
> more because Mr. P is such a control freak. Now, she can't
> leave....they won't let her.
It's obvious she wasn't educated there since she talks of going to
school overseas, but she did have her tonsils taken out in their
facilities. In most of the flashbacks we see, she and the other kids
seem to be roaming around the Centre a lot. She could well have
attended school outside the Centre, which seems likely she did, and
we're only seeing snippets of times when she was at the Centre. Of
course, Sydney seems to have had a big influence on her as well.
The question is, when did she meet Mutumbo?
db_coo...@my-deja.com
Isn't it obvious? Her first name is Angel.
That's what her father calls her.
IIRC, back when Mr Lyle was introduced there
was a strong impllication that he and MP had
been an item in college together in Japan.
Am I crazy?
Steve Shattuck
news:8322hs$iku$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Isn't it obvious? Her first name is Angel.
> That's what her father calls her.
Most fathers have pet names for their daughters.
> IIRC, back when Mr Lyle was introduced there
> was a strong impllication that he and MP had
> been an item in college together in Japan.
Then you IIRC incorrectly. That episode revealed a romance beteween MP and
Tommy Tanaka, the hoodlum.
> Am I crazy?
No, the mind is the second thing to go.
--
愷_
(__
___)teve st...@shattuck.net
Trevor
news:8322hs$iku$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> Isn't it obvious? Her first name is Angel.
> That's what her father calls her.
Angel is his nickname for her...he even explained to her why he called her
that a few eps back...err...last season. Whenever...but I would think she
would know why he called her Angel if that was her name. Good guess though
>
> IIRC, back when Mr Lyle was introduced there
> was a strong impllication that he and MP had
> been an item in college together in Japan.
>
> Am I crazy?
Yes, your crazy. <g> Lyle and her were NOT an item .. no writer would
have made them brother and sister if they had previously been
"involved"....way to much ewwwww factor.
Trev
Pat
troll, talks like a troll, and posts like a troll......guess what we think?
Pat
Pat
are twins? She and Tommy Tanaka dated in Japan, not Lyle and MP.
It is not obvious that her name is "Angel" because of the Christmas ornament
with the letters MP on it.
Pat
dbcooper1234> Isn't it obvious? Her first name is Angel.
> That's what her father calls her.
>
>
> IIRC, back when Mr Lyle was introduced there
> was a strong impllication that he and MP had
> been an item in college together in Japan.
>
> Am I crazy?
>
>
ignacio
> It is not obvious that her name is "Angel" because of the Christmas ornament
> with the letters MP on it.
I agree with the Angel part but actually the M could very well stand for Miss,
remember it's how she introduced hersef to Jarod and Faith, she's so used to be
called Miss PArker that she might as well use it herself (children do that a
lot)
anyway, if her initial *is* M, a lot of names could fit
but again I think that if we ever come to learn her name the writers will have
forgotten everything about this MP Xmas ball
Sandra
G. M. Lupo
> Then if the word doesn't fit, stop acting like one. If it walks like a
> troll, talks like a troll, and posts like a troll......guess what we
> think?
Oh, calm down. Sometimes I post serious stuff, sometimes I post silly
stuff. It's my standard MO. I'm not being malicious. And I do watch
the show.
Pat
you will get respect---that's all I ask.
Pat
Pat
have a hard time as seeing a child getting a Christmas ornament with the M
and P from "Miss Parker" on it as her initials. This was a family present,
not something at the office, after all...she wasn't being introduced
formally in her own family.
Pat
Nikki
stuff!!!!!!
Nikki
Pat <sylda...@spamyahoo.com> wrote in article
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Passion
I think it's time to hush on this matter. Your complaint about it being
a big waste of bandwidth and time doesn't wash so long as YOU keep
furthering the discussion.
Leave poor Matt alone, already. Some of his posts are silly, some are
"tongue in cheek", and he has written some very insightful posts as
well.
If you don't like what he is writing, here's a suggestion: Don't READ
them. Otherwise, consider this a free country and he is free to do as
he chooses. No one said YOU have to respect him; in fact, I haven't
SEEN him ask for your blessing anyway.
*handing you a chill pill* Really try one...they work.
~PASSION~
In article
<CEA1A1A2E5592B64.D5B51E1D...@lp.airnews.net>,
"Pat" <sylda...@spamyahoo.com> wrote:
> Silly stuff wastes everybody's time and bandwidth. Act like a
> grownup and
> you will get respect---that's all I ask.
> Pat
> "
> >
> > Oh, calm down. Sometimes I post serious stuff, sometimes I post
> silly
> > stuff. It's my standard MO. I'm not being malicious. And I do
> watch
> > the show.
> >
> > Matt Lupo
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>Madrigal wrote:
>>It's been the theory here that DP probably prohibited MP from using
>>her first name around the children at the Centre from an early age.
>>It would reinforce the power structure, since she was the boss's
>>daughter, and help keep her distanced from Centre employees.
>That kind of makes sense.
I agree; good theory. But it's also part of the show's theme and style;
every major character is incomplete in so many ways.
>But you've got to wonder why she was hanging around the Centre anyway? I
>mean, how often do you let your kids hang around where you work, particulary
>if it's in a top secret facility? I realize the Centre is a "special" place,
>so it doesn't necessarily follow the rules of regular society.
I think Miss Parker grew up there because both her parents thought it was an
ideal, scientific environment to raise children in; Catherine had either an
attack of conscience or finally opened her eyes later.
I'm still wondering if Miss Parker and Mr. Lyle weren't actually experiments
themselves. Perhaps Miss Parker is actually Catherine's clone.
You ever notice how much alike they look?
Peyton01
flashing back to when he and Miss parker were in a simulation together..the
simulation was to educate Jarod about the oposide sex..and the next flash back
has MP going to see Jaord and he says her skin is soft and she says "how do you
know you refused to touch me!" (she apparently was always forward) adn then
they touch hands..and he asks her her first name..and she whispers it to him.
(Apparently it was forbidden for her to speak it aloud) So Jarod knows her
first name. I am waiting for him to use it sometime...
Peyton
Peyton01
>themselves. Perhaps Miss Parker is actually Catherine's clone.
>
>You ever notice how much alike they look?
Yes this I thought of often..and look alike? they are played by the same
actress! LOL I often though of that..how many people look exactly like there
mother..and Lyle..why was he taken from her as a baby, CP though he was dead.
And if he father knew about him, why did he let him be raised by a man who
locked him in a shed and tortured him? There is alot going on in the centre
that doesn't meet the eye..then agiain as Sydney said once..why does Raines do
anything he does. and were is he?
Peyton
db_coo...@my-deja.com
<E6FE4858AF1A59C4.04B8026B...@lp.airnews.net>,
"Pat" <sylda...@spamyahoo.com> wrote:
> Where are you coming up with these ideas? Did you forget that Lyle and
> MP are twins?
No, I hadn't forgotten. But it seemed to me that the writer(s)
who decided to make them twins might have not been familiar with
that earlier episode.
Sort of like the MASH episode in which Margaret's father visits
despite the earlier episode in which she said he was dead. There
was a continuity major error regarding Robin Masters in Magnum PI,
but I won't spoil that.
> She and Tommy Tanaka dated in Japan, not Lyle and MP.
Thanks for clearing that up.
> It is not obvious that her name is "Angel" because of the Christmas
> ornament with the letters MP on it.
>
Didn't see that episode, but it wouldn't surprise me if that fact gets
forgotten--e.g. James R Kirk (ST:Where NO Man has Gone Before) vs
James T. Kirk in subsequent episodes. Or Colin O'Brian in
(STTNG:Farpoint) vs Miles O'Brian in STDS9.
Or for a major disconnect compare Frazier's parents on Cheers with
his parents on Frazier.
I do agree that most likely Angel is MP's nickname for her. But stranger
things have happened--e.g. Luvey Howell's first name (in the scripts)
was Luvey.
But I hope they can keep things consistant on _The Pretender_.
Pat
"Passion" > I think it's time to hush on this matter. Your complaint about
it being
> a big waste of bandwidth and time doesn't wash so long as YOU keep
> furthering the discussion.
Pat>>Are you telling me you didn't see all of his posts saying that MP's
name was "Stevie" or something else silly? He went to several different
topics and posted silly stuff.
Passion>
> Leave poor Matt alone, already. Some of his posts are silly, some are
> "tongue in cheek", and he has written some very insightful posts as
> well.
Pat>>This is true.
>
Passion> If you don't like what he is writing, here's a suggestion: Don't
READ them. Otherwise, consider this a free country and he is free to do as
he chooses. No one said YOU have to respect him; in fact, I haven't
> SEEN him ask for your blessing anyway.
Pat>>Yes, but when he writes something childish, I still have to waste time
downloading it before I can get to the point where I can see that it is a
waste of further time to read it. All I am asking is that he act like a
grownup IF he wants us to take his other posts seriously. True, he didn't
ask for anybody's "blessing", BUT, by posting in the first place, he is
implicitly asking the readers to take him seriously. If he is not doing
that, then he is a troll. Newsgroups have some "understood" conventions, and
that is one of them.
Pat
Don't count on it.
Pat
dbcooper1234> But I hope they can keep things consistant on _The Pretender_.
Peyton01
>names
>> and which ones don't.......Mr. Lyle,
Mr. Lyle first name is Bobby or Bob..Jarod mention it when he handed Miss
Parker the file on him and Angleo..saying "alittle boy name bobby, but you know
him better as...mister Lyle" and MP says" I think I'll have that drink now" I
couldn't stop laughing at that! anyway later when MP has dad and brother over
to meet Thomas for dinner..DP says well we have to go..come on Bob.. so
apparently that is his real name..where as Parker is always refered to as
Angel..oh well..
Peyton
abigaily
> In the episode "Pool", which is the one I think you are referring to,
when MP has the family over to dinner the last we see of the Parker
clan at dinner is MP on the phone with Broots and DP in the background
saying something in reference to playing charades. No mention of
"Bobby". I believe (imho) DP only refers to him as son or Lyle, never
Bobby.
abigail
G. M. Lupo
> Silly stuff wastes everybody's time and bandwidth. Act like a grownup
> and you will get respect---that's all I ask.
I troll every group I visit. That way the folks with no sense of humor
can go ahead and put me in their killfiles and I don't have to deal with
them anymore.
Matt Lupo
ministry of silly posts...
G. M. Lupo
> BUT, by posting in the first place, he is implicitly asking the
> readers to take him seriously. If he is not doing that, then he is a
> troll. Newsgroups have some "understood" conventions, and that is one
> of them.
Why, I never ask anyone to take me seriously.
I've been around Usenet for quite awhile and know most of the
conventions. I should, I've had enough people point them out to me on
more than a few occasions. I often bend those conventions though, in
order to get at deeper truths. Or to get a few yuks. You decide.
Matt Lupo
Madrigal
"Everyone is in such a hurry, I say relax and smell the burning flesh of
sinners."
Madrigal
--
Keeper of Argyle's laminator
Keeper of Jarod's shiny blankie
Keeper of Brigitte's plastic bouquet
Keeper of Emily's cute little tattoo