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Kirk

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Jun 28, 2001, 11:24:10 AM6/28/01
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I don't see the big deal about this chick being in Playboy. I think Bill
was right, when he said that there are far worse things an LA cop can do.

As for "respect," what guy is going to get violent with a Bunny? I'd think
that any criminal would think it was pretty cool, to get nabbed by her; he'd
probably end up bragging about it in jail.

"Man, that chick had her hands all over me. She's a nympho, I'm telling
you."

"Bull-shit..."

As for other female cops somehow being hurt by her actions, I think it's a
bit of a reach.

-- Kirk


"Love means never having to say Gesundheit."

-- from, "Love Story"

Laurel

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Jun 28, 2001, 11:41:12 AM6/28/01
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Kirk wrote:
>
> I don't see the big deal about this chick being in Playboy. I think Bill
> was right, when he said that there are far worse things an LA cop can do.

I hope you would be as understanding if a male officer was to pose for a
gay porn magazine. Sorry about my ignorance, I don't know the names of
any of the mags to use as examples.

I did find it amusing when Bill was listing mags on and on. He did
mention "Jugs" twice, perhaps that is his favorite.

>
> As for "respect," what guy is going to get violent with a Bunny? I'd think
> that any criminal would think it was pretty cool, to get nabbed by her; he'd
> probably end up bragging about it in jail.

Unless he thought it would be cooler to get a good inside look at her
tits or rape her or something. He could brag about that too. And not
in jail, if he was slick about it.


> "Man, that chick had her hands all over me. She's a nympho, I'm telling
> you."
>
> "Bull-shit..."
>
> As for other female cops somehow being hurt by her actions, I think it's a
> bit of a reach.

I think it takes away from your position of being respected, and you
would be operating at a disadvantage both with people on the street and
with your co-workers. If your boss was a woman (maybe she is) and her
picture was in Playboy, don't you think you would be looking at her differently?

Even without pictures, sometimes these kind of details can be a bit
much. A friend of mine, having had several drinks, regaled us with the
tale of her hubby in chaps and nothing else. Now every time I see this
guy, I can't help but think about it (and it's not a pretty picture, she
is obviously looking through the eyes of love). I wish I never heard
it, because I liked this guy fine before that, and now I feel
uncomfortable.

A lesser example, as the photo is in my mind's eye and not on the wall,
and he is not meant to be an authority figure to me, but I think the
example demonstrates that you think about people differently once there
is a sexual image in your mind. No one is listening to what you say if
they are staring at your tits. Believe me.

And I really didn't get the point of how falling into an ages old
masculine stereotype makes you more of a feminist. Eh????

Laurel

NLRice

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Jun 28, 2001, 5:23:29 PM6/28/01
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"Kirk" <lone...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<u_H_6.1029$ck5....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

> I don't see the big deal about this chick being in Playboy. I think Bill
> was right, when he said that there are far worse things an LA cop can do.
>
> As for "respect," what guy is going to get violent with a Bunny? I'd think
> that any criminal would think it was pretty cool, to get nabbed by her; he'd
> probably end up bragging about it in jail.
>
> "Man, that chick had her hands all over me. She's a nympho, I'm telling
> you."
>
> "Bull-shit..."
>
> As for other female cops somehow being hurt by her actions, I think it's a
> bit of a reach.
>
> -- Kirk


It's not bad in tself to pose for pictures in Playboy if you want to,
but you must realize, right or wrong, how others will perceive you,
especially if you are in a position of authority. If you saw a
picture of your boss, naked, over the weekend, would you think the
same way about them? I mean it's not the end of the world or
anything, but I do understand where Bill is coming from.


NLRice

The-Trainers

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Jun 28, 2001, 6:36:46 PM6/28/01
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Laurel wrote:

> > I don't see the big deal about this chick being in Playboy. I think Bill
> > was right, when he said that there are far worse things an LA cop can do.

> I hope you would be as understanding if a male officer was to pose for a
> gay porn magazine.

Fine by me, why should I care?

> Sorry about my ignorance, I don't know the names of
> any of the mags to use as examples.

How about just useing Playgirl as the alternate example?

> I did find it amusing when Bill was listing mags on and on. He did
> mention "Jugs" twice, perhaps that is his favorite.

Or perhaps his most recent girlfreind was in that magazine?



> > As for other female cops somehow being hurt by her actions, I think it's a
> > bit of a reach.

> I think it takes away from your position of being respected, and you
> would be operating at a disadvantage both with people on the street and
> with your co-workers.

Why? Unless you're really ugly of course...

> If your boss was a woman (maybe she is) and her
> picture was in Playboy, don't you think you would
>be looking at her differently?

Ah, because husbands normally loose all respect for their wives
the first time they see them naked????

Because when you happen to share a locker-room with your boss after
a lunch-time basketball game, you lose all respect for them?

Because when your drill-seargent shares the shower-room with you
at boot-camp you suddenly cannot respect him?

> Even without pictures, sometimes these kind of details can be a bit
> much. A friend of mine, having had several drinks, regaled us with the
> tale of her hubby in chaps and nothing else.

Sounds like a fun couple, got a phone number? ;-)

> Now every time I see this
> guy, I can't help but think about it

Which says MORE about YOU than about him. Basically, it's YOUR problem,
NOT theirs.

> (and it's not a pretty picture, she
> is obviously looking through the eyes of love). I wish I never heard
> it, because I liked this guy fine before that, and now I feel
> uncomfortable.

Sounds like a personal problem to me.



> A lesser example, as the photo is in my mind's eye and not on the wall,
> and he is not meant to be an authority figure to me, but I think the
> example demonstrates that you think about people differently once there
> is a sexual image in your mind.

An image YOU created within your own mind and which YOU are having
the problem dealing with.

> No one is listening to what you say if
> they are staring at your tits. Believe me.

Again, your own personal problem.

> Laurel

Mike Trainer, Life-long Liberal Democrat Atheist, Gun-owner and VOTER!
Gun-owner since the 1994 Clinton gun-ban, VOTER since Carter in 1976,
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ONLY on the issue of protecting my right to keep and bear arms 2002.

Gfid

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Jun 29, 2001, 7:31:09 PM6/29/01
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Well, the people who would probably be most offended by it, probably aren't reading (or looking at) Playboy anyway.

I'm sure word would get around the department, but anyone who said anything would be risking committing sexual
harrassment. Citizens that she deals with for the most part wouldn't recognize her as a Playboy bunny anyway. Did
the spread in Playboy identify her as an LA cop? Even if it did - I don't feel it is an issue.

Dallas PD is currently fighting officers for having dreadlocks - and not the long gnatty dreads like Bob Marley.
One of them looked more like Arsenio, and the other was a female cop, with very neat dreadlocks. (I wouldn't have
even recognized them as dreadlocks had the news not told me).

dvus

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Jun 30, 2001, 10:26:19 AM6/30/01
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"Laurel" <laur...@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]


> A lesser example, as the photo is in my mind's eye and not on the wall,
> and he is not meant to be an authority figure to me, but I think the
> example demonstrates that you think about people differently once there
> is a sexual image in your mind. No one is listening to what you say if
> they are staring at your tits. Believe me.

Huh? Um, did you say something? I was paying close attention
to both of you, um, them, er...
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

> And I really didn't get the point of how falling into an ages old
> masculine stereotype makes you more of a feminist. Eh????
>
> Laurel

dvus


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