Dubya: Cheap shot Artist
Erasmus Brown
doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
Randy
> Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
Dull and uneventful debate. The only thing I learned is that Gore
invented the calculator.
The-Trainers
> Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
Geee, nice to see the level of behavior of a Gore supporter.
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arms 2000.
lazarus33pjf
"The-Trainers" <trai...@best.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
>
> > Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> > doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
>
> Geee, nice to see the level of behavior of a Gore supporter.
>
DAMN!!! What a staggering flame! 'Ras, how can you go on living after
something like that? Great Gnu, that was brutal!
heh
--
--
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fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all
the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
[Stephen F. Roberts]
"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because if there be one, He must approve the homage
of Reason rather than that of blindfolded Fear."
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Gölök Buday (The Voltairian/Black Jester™)
<ebr...@monmouth.com> wrote:
>Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
>doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
Gore isn't a rich, smug, cock sucker? Ok maybe neither of them are
cock sucker, that's more then I want to know. There was enough about
cock sucking in the last campaign.
The fact is Gore is so fucken weallthy he doesn't think $25,000 a year
is alot of money, in fact I doubt Bush knows that either.
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z
normal costs of living, but also two elderly people's prescriptions,
you must live somewhere where prescription costs are held down by the
government.
In article <39dbfdcc...@news.lightspeed.bc.ca>,
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Kirk
"z" <gzuc...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> If you think $25000 a year is a lot of money to cover not only the
> normal costs of living, but also two elderly people's prescriptions,
> you must live somewhere where prescription costs are held down by the
> government.
Who cares? If you can't afford it, you can't have it: What part of this
concept do you not understand?
And you wonder why Americans have such a sense of entitlement.
(As for government holding down the cost of prescription drugs, you're
trying to substitute Central Planning for the law of supply and demand.
Hold down the price of drugs, and you decrease the profit obtainable from
producing them. So, fewer people produce them, and there's less to go
around.)
-- Kirk
"...the trillium, loveliest of them all, which
kneels as modestly as a spring bride, all
in white, beside the altar of an old oak
stump. If you're not familiar with the
trillium, imagine the flower that would
come from a flute if a flute could make a
flower. That is the trillium, a work of God
from a theme by Mozart."
-- James J. Kilpatrick, "The Writer's Art"
z
cash to make your life worth saving by the time you hit 70. Don't let
your sense of entitlement to life interfere with my sense of
entitlement to a Lexus SUV.
As for 'the law of supply and demand'; the pharmaceutical industry may
cry a lot about price controls in Canada, or even more stringent ones
in other countries, but you know what? They continue to sell their
products there at those prices. How about that. Maybe you ought to
substitute 'the law of what the traffic will allow'.
In article <Uk1D5.18953$TP6.4...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Kirk" <lone...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Who cares? If you can't afford it, you can't have it: What part of
this
> concept do you not understand?
>
> And you wonder why Americans have such a sense of entitlement.
>
> (As for government holding down the cost of prescription drugs,
you're
> trying to substitute Central Planning for the law of supply and
demand.
> Hold down the price of drugs, and you decrease the profit obtainable
from
> producing them. So, fewer people produce them, and there's less to go
> around.)
>
> -- Kirk
>
> "...the trillium, loveliest of them all, which
> kneels as modestly as a spring bride, all
> in white, beside the altar of an old oak
> stump. If you're not familiar with the
> trillium, imagine the flower that would
> come from a flute if a flute could make a
> flower. That is the trillium, a work of God
> from a theme by Mozart."
>
> -- James J. Kilpatrick, "The Writer's Art"
>
>
Erasmus Brown
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
>
> > Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> > doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
>
What behavior? So I used some vulgarity? You're admittedly into S&M! Who
are you to pass judgment?
Erasmus Brown
>
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:51:44 -0400, Erasmus Brown
> <ebr...@monmouth.com> wrote:
>
> >Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> >doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
>
> Gore isn't a rich, smug, cock sucker?
> Ok maybe neither of them are
> cock sucker, that's more then I want to know. There was enough about
> cock sucking in the last campaign.
Who knows what Dubya did on his benders?
Erasmus Brown
>
> If you think $25000 a year is a lot of money to cover not only the
> normal costs of living, but also two elderly people's prescriptions,
> you must live somewhere where prescription costs are held down by the
> government.
Where the fuck do you live, Buday? $25k is shit, at least here in
Jersey. IT jobs start at $35k minimum.
The-Trainers
> The-Trainers wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
> >
> > > Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> > > doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
> >
> > Geee, nice to see the level of behavior of a Gore supporter.
> What behavior? So I used some vulgarity?
Worthy of the Nemo award for gutter-mind.
> You're admittedly into S&M!
On the giving end, sure. What's wrong with that? They always leave happy.
> Who are you to pass judgment?
An honest person who still has integrity, UNLIKE Gore.
I may have switched parties for THIS vote, but I still maintain my
principals.
The-Trainers
> As for 'the law of supply and demand'; the pharmaceutical industry may
> cry a lot about price controls in Canada, or even more stringent ones
> in other countries, but you know what? They continue to sell their
> products there at those prices. How about that. Maybe you ought to
> substitute 'the law of what the traffic will allow'.
The issue with the drug companies is developement of NEW drugs.
The costs for each new drug is astronomical, especially if it's for the
USA market.
Not that I have any sympathy for their biz practices or morals, but to be
fair, without a massive profit motive, most drugs would NEVER be developed
at all, simply because of the huge risks involved.
lazarus33pjf
"Kirk" <lone...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > normal costs of living, but also two elderly people's prescriptions,
> > you must live somewhere where prescription costs are held down by the
> > government.
>
>
> concept do you not understand?
>
> And you wonder why Americans have such a sense of entitlement.
>
> (As for government holding down the cost of prescription drugs, you're
> Hold down the price of drugs, and you decrease the profit obtainable from
> producing them. So, fewer people produce them, and there's less to go
> around.)
>
You're right, Kirk. Of course, you've never been unemployed and sick, have
you? You've got a perfect employment record, and could afford any illness
that came along, right?
z
app. You see a company that's had 2 or 3 failed NDAs in a row, they're
in serious trouble. But that just contributes to the complete divorce
of pricing of a drug from the costs of its development. The price of a
drug has more to do with marketing than it does with any real
assessment of what went into developing it specifically and what it
costs to produce it. If you track the price of a drug, you'll note the
oddity that it tends to go up towards the date of expiration of its
patent; also it gets marketed (successfully) more at that time. Just
the companies trying to squeeze the last few bucks out of their
intellectual property before the generics come in and knock them out of
that business, not any increase in cost of producing the drug or any
retroactive increase in the costs of development. But that means that
the price of the individual drugs is not tied to the costs of
developing and producing them, so there is a certain flexibility that
can be used by powerful payors. You see it in this country too, to a
great extent. That's what Gore was getting at. If you pay for a drug at
the pharmacy out of pocket, you will pay listed retail price. Medicare
or any HMO will typically pay AWP (average wholesale price). And AWP
itself doesn't even reflect what you or I would consider the average
wholesale price, calculated by what the drug is selling for, but is
something that comes out of a list that is sold to payors by companies
who decide the AWP of drugs for a living. So the 'wholesale' price to
Medicare and HMOs is basically dictated by the purchaser, not the
people making and selling the drug; and they make it up in part by
correspondingly overcharging whatever poor or foolish people don't have
the clout to negotiate volume discounts. Similarly, the same drug on a
veterinary basis would never sell for what human drugs go for, so they
are priced correspondingly less. Not just prescription drugs: 2 cc of
imidacloprid from Bayer to drip on the back of my cat to kill fleas
costs like 8 bucks. A bag of the same stuff to spread on 5000 square
feet of lawn to kill grubs costs like $20. I am definitely putting more
than 2.5 times more on my lawn than on my cat, and it has to be applied
to a carrier, etc. etc. But pharmaceuticals do heavy duty market
research, and that $8 reflects what people will pay for flea dip, and
that $20 reflects what people will pay for lawn pesticide. And as long
as the balance sheet at the end of the year is in the black, the
executives go home happy.
In article <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010051620440.18129-
100...@shell11.ba.best.com>,
hae...@my-deja.com
z <gzuc...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> If you think $25000 a year is a lot of money to cover not only the
> normal costs of living, but also two elderly people's prescriptions,
> you must live somewhere where prescription costs are held down by the
> government.
>
Golok is spoiled by socialized medicine...like HMO's, they allow
everyone a somewhat equal chance to get otherwise "expensive" (so it
only takes pennies a pound to make; we can sell this sucker for $90 a
pop...just because it's critical to someone's survival...) medication.
$25.000 a year covers bills for basic living expenses of a single,
healthy person on average in most places. (yeah, I include a car;
transportation in America sucks, especially when affordable housing
is usually 10 - 20 miles away from the worksite for the average
person...)
If adding any more than trying to support one other working or
somewhat working individual, and if there are any minor health problems
they have to cover themselves (and can still work despite the
problems), and it starts becoming one paycheck before they move into
the dumpster behind the car wash...
Haele
Erasmus Brown
>
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
>
> > The-Trainers wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Is that all that rich, smug, cocksucker has in his bag o' tricks? What a
> > > > doofus. Gore should have eviscerated that prick.
> > >
>
> > What behavior? So I used some vulgarity?
>
> Worthy of the Nemo award for gutter-mind.
>
> > You're admittedly into S&M!
>
> On the giving end, sure. What's wrong with that? They always leave happy.
> > Who are you to pass judgment?
>
> An honest person who still has integrity, UNLIKE Gore.
> I may have switched parties for THIS vote, but I still maintain my
> principals.
And I don't, simply because I used profanity?
z
a week for that potty mouth.
You should have just muttered asshole under your breath in the belief
it wouldn't have gone out over the air, like the candidate of integrity
does.
In article <39DE1AF3...@monmouth.com>,
ebr...@diespam.monmouth.com wrote:
>
> > I may have switched parties for THIS vote, but I still maintain my
> > principals.
>
> And I don't, simply because I used profanity?
>
The-Trainers
> > > You're admittedly into S&M!
> >
> > On the giving end, sure. What's wrong with that? They always leave happy.
> As much as is wrong profanity.
Grammar confusion alert????
> > > Who are you to pass judgment?
> >
> > An honest person who still has integrity, UNLIKE Gore.
> What makes you think I am not?
Where did I suggest otherise?
I was talking about myself compared to Gore.
> > I may have switched parties for THIS vote, but I still maintain my
> > principals.
> And I don't, simply because I used profanity?
profanity is fine IF provoked and justified, yours was not in this case.
I grant you that on occasions in the past, it has been.
Kirk
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
>
> > > > You're admittedly into S&M!
> > >
MT replied:
> > > On the giving end, sure.
I can't believe I'm asking this, but just what do you mean by this phrase?
eve
> I can't believe I'm asking this, but just what do you mean by this
>phrase?
It MEANS what it SAYS--can't you READ?
My wife and I are SWINGERS. (We like to DO IT on a SWING <joke>)
When a FEMALE third party wants to swing with us, she and I and my wife get
to-gether and I TIE them up at DIFFERENT times and BEAT them with a WHIP
until they SCREAM (but NOT scream RED, THAT is a SAFE WORD.) Sometimes my
wife and I beat the THIRD PARTY to-gether. Sometimes I have HAD to STOP
whipping at the last moment (And ONCE I almost DIS-LOCATED my shoulder from
STOPPING the hitting when she DID scream RED) and SOMETIMES people DON'T use
SAFEWORDS!!
NOW do you UNDERSTAND?
Kirk wrote:
> the trillium, loveliest of them all, which
>kneels as modestly as a spring bride,
THAT is a LIE.
My WIFE (she looks like BAILEY from the old tv show WKRP) and I got
to-gether in the SPRING and if you could READ you would KNOW that she is not
"MODEST" at ALL and YOU wouldn-t WRITE these LIES about HER!!
I expected BETTER from you because YOU have READ John Lott's book but I SEE
you are just a LIAR like the REST!!
Kirk wrote:
> in white, beside the altar of an old oak
> stump.
Okay, NOW I see what you're saying.
WHY not SAY that FIRST?
Kirk wrote:
>If you're not familiar with the
> trillium,
<yawn>
I KNOW the TRILLIUM--do YOU??
Kirk wrote:
>imagine the flower that would
I SEE, you don't THINK, you use "IMAGINATION".
THAT is your PROBLEM. THAT is why your POSTS are so EMOTIONAL. I use LOGIC
and THAT is why PEOPLE in this ng don't like debating ME.
Perhaps you are one of THEM?
Kirk wrote:
> come from a flute if a flute could make a
> flower.
Okay, NOW I see what you're TRYING to say BUT a "flute" IS NOT a "flower"
AND a 'flower" IS NOT a "flute"--do you SEE the DIFFERENCE?
Kirk wrote:
>That is the trillium, a work of God
I do NOT believe in GOD or the FAIRY TALES in the bible.
Kirk wrote:
> from a theme by Mozart."
Okay, THAT is a VERY GOOD POINT.
Mozart was from AUSTRIA and when Hitler first came to POWER he TOOK all the
GUNS and the PEOPLE of AUSTRIA could NOT fight against HITLER so Mozart is a
GOOD example of how IMPORTANT it is to PROTECT our GUN RIGHTS.
You made TWO good points which is BETTER than LAST TIME BUT next time TRY
and THINK before you ANSWER, please!
ET
lazarus33pjf
>
>
> > On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
> >
> > > > > You're admittedly into S&M!
> > > >
>
>
> MT replied:
>
> > > > On the giving end, sure.
>
>
>
>
> I can't believe I'm asking this, but just what do you mean by this
phrase?
>
It means he's too chickenshit to give control to someone else. All he'll do
is provide the punishment, he won't receive it.
Randy
The-Trainers <trai...@best.com> wrote:
> > And I don't, simply because I used profanity?
>
> profanity is fine IF provoked and justified, yours was not in this case.
>
> I grant you that on occasions in the past, it has been.
So YOU want to LIMIT his first amendment rights and YOU should
DECIDE when profanity is just-ified?
Randy
"eve" <eve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > I can't believe I'm asking this, but just what do you mean by this
> >phrase?
>
> It MEANS what it SAYS--can't you READ?
>
> My wife and I are SWINGERS. (We like to DO IT on a SWING <joke>)
>
> When a FEMALE third party wants to swing with us, she and I and my wife get
> to-gether and I TIE them up at DIFFERENT times and BEAT them with a WHIP
> until they SCREAM (but NOT scream RED, THAT is a SAFE WORD.) Sometimes my
> wife and I beat the THIRD PARTY to-gether. Sometimes I have HAD to STOP
> whipping at the last moment (And ONCE I almost DIS-LOCATED my shoulder from
> STOPPING the hitting when she DID scream RED) and SOMETIMES people DON'T use
> SAFEWORDS!!
>
> NOW do you UNDERSTAND?
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > the trillium, loveliest of them all, which
> >kneels as modestly as a spring bride,
>
> THAT is a LIE.
>
> My WIFE (she looks like BAILEY from the old tv show WKRP) and I got
> to-gether in the SPRING and if you could READ you would KNOW that she is not
> "MODEST" at ALL and YOU wouldn-t WRITE these LIES about HER!!
>
> I expected BETTER from you because YOU have READ John Lott's book but I SEE
> you are just a LIAR like the REST!!
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > in white, beside the altar of an old oak
> > stump.
>
>
> Okay, NOW I see what you're saying.
>
> WHY not SAY that FIRST?
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> >If you're not familiar with the
> > trillium,
>
> <yawn>
>
> I KNOW the TRILLIUM--do YOU??
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> >imagine the flower that would
>
>
> I SEE, you don't THINK, you use "IMAGINATION".
>
> THAT is your PROBLEM. THAT is why your POSTS are so EMOTIONAL. I use LOGIC
> and THAT is why PEOPLE in this ng don't like debating ME.
>
> Perhaps you are one of THEM?
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > come from a flute if a flute could make a
> > flower.
>
> Okay, NOW I see what you're TRYING to say BUT a "flute" IS NOT a "flower"
> AND a 'flower" IS NOT a "flute"--do you SEE the DIFFERENCE?
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> >That is the trillium, a work of God
>
> I do NOT believe in GOD or the FAIRY TALES in the bible.
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > from a theme by Mozart."
>
> Okay, THAT is a VERY GOOD POINT.
>
> Mozart was from AUSTRIA and when Hitler first came to POWER he TOOK all the
> GUNS and the PEOPLE of AUSTRIA could NOT fight against HITLER so Mozart is a
> GOOD example of how IMPORTANT it is to PROTECT our GUN RIGHTS.
>
> You made TWO good points which is BETTER than LAST TIME BUT next time TRY
> and THINK before you ANSWER, please!
>
>
> ET
Despite the fact that iIjust spewed coffee all over my monitor, I have
missed your posts. Well done!
.
z
In article <bRDD5.20927$tl2.1...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"eve" <eve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kirk wrote:
>
> >phrase?
>
>
> My wife and I are SWINGERS. (We like to DO IT on a SWING <joke>)
>
> When a FEMALE third party wants to swing with us, she and I and my
wife get
> to-gether and I TIE them up at DIFFERENT times and BEAT them with a
WHIP
> until they SCREAM (but NOT scream RED, THAT is a SAFE WORD.)
Sometimes my
> wife and I beat the THIRD PARTY to-gether. Sometimes I have HAD to
STOP
> whipping at the last moment (And ONCE I almost DIS-LOCATED my
shoulder from
> STOPPING the hitting when she DID scream RED) and SOMETIMES people
DON'T use
> SAFEWORDS!!
>
> NOW do you UNDERSTAND?
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> >kneels as modestly as a spring bride,
>
>
> My WIFE (she looks like BAILEY from the old tv show WKRP) and I got
> to-gether in the SPRING and if you could READ you would KNOW that she
is not
> "MODEST" at ALL and YOU wouldn-t WRITE these LIES about HER!!
>
> I expected BETTER from you because YOU have READ John Lott's book but
I SEE
> you are just a LIAR like the REST!!
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > stump.
>
>
> WHY not SAY that FIRST?
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > trillium,
>
>
> I KNOW the TRILLIUM--do YOU??
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
>
>
> THAT is your PROBLEM. THAT is why your POSTS are so EMOTIONAL. I use
LOGIC
> and THAT is why PEOPLE in this ng don't like debating ME.
>
> Perhaps you are one of THEM?
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
> > flower.
>
a "flower"
> AND a 'flower" IS NOT a "flute"--do you SEE the DIFFERENCE?
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
>
>
> Kirk wrote:
>
>
>
> Mozart was from AUSTRIA and when Hitler first came to POWER he TOOK
all the
> GUNS and the PEOPLE of AUSTRIA could NOT fight against HITLER so
Mozart is a
> GOOD example of how IMPORTANT it is to PROTECT our GUN RIGHTS.
>
> You made TWO good points which is BETTER than LAST TIME BUT next time
TRY
> and THINK before you ANSWER, please!
>
> ET
>
>
Erasmus Brown
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Erasmus Brown wrote:
>
> > > > You're admittedly into S&M!
> > >
>
> > As much as is wrong profanity.
>
> Grammar confusion alert????
Hmmmm...there's a "with" missing. Ok, who's the Pronoun Grabber here?
>
> > > I may have switched parties for THIS vote, but I still maintain my
> > > principals.
>
> > And I don't, simply because I used profanity?
>
> profanity is fine IF provoked and justified, yours was not in this case.
Why not? I get pissed off when Dubya responds to a statement, factual
integrity debatable, with a feeble little joke, and the Republican
pinheads think it's a brilliant witticism.
z
The numbers were clear as can be; if he disagreed with any aspect of
them he could have done so. The only thing fuzzy is Bush's inability to
grasp math. And now that's the watchword at Bush campaign stops. Great.
A whole party who can't add and subtract. Thank you Mr. Education
Candidate. Chevy Chase did it better as Ford with 'I did not know math
would be on this exam'.
In article <39DFAC7B...@monmouth.com>,
Kirk
> Well Geez, he hears some numbers and all he can muster is 'Fuzzy math'.
> The numbers were clear as can be; if he disagreed with any aspect of
> them he could have
I read that several experts have been stumped by the math both Gore and
Bush used in the debates.
And what's up with this old lady can-collector? What, she's a hero,
because she failed to plan for her retirement?
-- Kirk
"...the trillium, loveliest of them all, which
kneels as modestly as a spring bride, all
in white, beside the altar of an old oak
stump. If you're not familiar with the
trillium, imagine the flower that would
come from a flute if a flute could make a
flower. That is the trillium, a work of God
from a theme by Mozart."
-- James J. Kilpatrick, "The Writer's Art"
hae...@my-deja.com
"Kirk" <lone...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> "z" <gzuc...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8roivf$3t5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > Well Geez, he hears some numbers and all he can muster is 'Fuzzy
math'.
> > The numbers were clear as can be; if he disagreed with any aspect
of
> > them he could have
>
> I read that several experts have been stumped by the math both Gore
and
> Bush used in the debates.
>
I was stumped too, until I figure out that both canidates used the
projected surpluse/deficit/social security figures provided by thier
party leaders, rather than the actual projections made by the GAO...
Now, propoganda or political party math _is_ "fuzzy-feel-good"
math...from alternate universes that seem to have different laws (or
theories) of physics, no less...
Using Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchett as theorical guides, I was able
to comprehend the economic basis for their spending - with a little
help from my towel. If I had followed the lessons from my accounting
and economics classes, I would have been as hopelessly lost as everyone
else seems to be.
.
> And what's up with this old lady can-collector? What, she's a hero,
> because she failed to plan for her retirement?
>
.
Sigh. She was probably one of those many women who grew up in the 40's
and 50's thinking that their husbands would be able to take care of
them if they stayed at home and watched the kids. Sometimes it worked
out, most times it didn't. Kids going to college cost money, husbands
die, divorce, or outlive their retierment...and medical bills eat up
retirement money fast.
If you don't already own your home free and clear, all Social Security
may get you even nowdays may be an "efficiency" studio apartment (that
may have running water in the room) and enough to buy rice and catfood.
It certainly wouldn't cover a mortgage payment, or real rent.
BTW, what's your retirement plan, Kirk? Got a Roth IRA or a 401K in
place and contributing to it religiously? (it's tough to even get $25 a
month in it sometimes, but you gotta do it...)
Or are you recyling your Foster's cans and putting the money away?
Social security just ain't gonna do it when you aren't young and can't
work as hard as you used to.
Haele
> -- Kirk
>
> "...the trillium, loveliest of them all, which
> kneels as modestly as a spring bride, all
> in white, beside the altar of an old oak
> stump. If you're not familiar with the
> trillium, imagine the flower that would
> come from a flute if a flute could make a
> flower. That is the trillium, a work of God
> from a theme by Mozart."
>
> -- James J. Kilpatrick, "The Writer's Art"
>
>
Randy
<lone...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "z" <gzuc...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8roivf$3t5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > Well Geez, he hears some numbers and all he can muster is 'Fuzzy math'.
> > The numbers were clear as can be; if he disagreed with any aspect of
> > them he could have
>
>
> I read that several experts have been stumped by the math both Gore and
> Bush used in the debates.
>
> And what's up with this old lady can-collector? What, she's a hero,
> because she failed to plan for her retirement?
>
>
Well, according to what I read, she has planned for her retirement. SHe
owns a house, pays her taxes, has a pension but probably never expected,
as no one would, that she would need a few hundred extra a month for
medication.
My grandmother spends just under $400 a month for various
medications and she's relatively healthy.
Randy
> BTW, what's your retirement plan, Kirk? Got a Roth IRA or a 401K in
> place and contributing to it religiously? (it's tough to even get $25 a
> month in it sometimes, but you gotta do it...)
Kirk is saving his empties to retire on.
z
pick up cans to get FOOD.
In article <rdowns-0810...@user-2ive753.dialup.mindspring.com>,
rdo...@pipeline.com (Randy) wrote:
> In article <0oTD5.972
$6t3....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Kirk"
> <lone...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > "z" <gzuc...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:8roivf$3t5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > Well Geez, he hears some numbers and all he can muster is 'Fuzzy
math'.
> > > The numbers were clear as can be; if he disagreed with any aspect
of
> > > them he could have
> >
> >
> > I read that several experts have been stumped by the math both
Gore and
> > Bush used in the debates.
> >
> > And what's up with this old lady can-collector? What, she's a
hero,
> > because she failed to plan for her retirement?
> >
> >
SHe
> owns a house, pays her taxes, has a pension but probably never
expected,
> as no one would, that she would need a few hundred extra a month for
> medication.
>
> My grandmother spends just under $400 a month for various
> medications and she's relatively healthy.
>
Eugene Kushnirsky
eve <eve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Sometimes my
>wife and I beat the THIRD PARTY to-gether.
This sentence brought to mind a very vivid image of MT whaling on
Ralph Nader. ("Ouch, MT, that whip is unsafe at any speed!"
"WHO'S your DADDY?")
For the first time in weeks, I was happy.
--
Randy
ekus...@math.lsa.umich.edu wrote:
ROFL, what better way to head off to the office.
profess...@my-deja.com
The true story of how you got your nickname.
Dad always called you "dumb" and I
would always agree saying "yea".
With your dyslexia and all, it came out
"dubya" when you said it. And so the
name stuck.
And that's the true story.
Barbara Bush
Victoria
>My Dearest Son,
>
>The true story of how you got your nickname.
<snip>
>And that's the true story.
>
>Barbara Bush
>
Dear Mrs. Bush,
My family found Millie's book to be a delightful read and our boy, O'Neill,
thinks she's just puppilicious.
Toodles!
Victoria