O'Reilly in the mob?
Madman702
O'Reilly got into some shootout with a Wiseguy anyway, and he wanted him killed
in prison. Anyway, was O'Reilly in the Irish mob and what did he do to get into
prison?
Shadowy Moon
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In The Routine, it's established that Dino Ortolani was supposed to kill
Ryan to move up in the mob hierarchy. There's no reason given why Ryan in
particular is chosen, but there's also no indication that Ryan was or is a
member of the Irish mob. Either way, Ryan didn't die, causing some
embarrassment for Dino and perhaps holding him back in the mob, which is why
Dino hated him so much.
Ryan's in Oz for, "Prisoner number 97P904, Ryan O'Reily. Convicted July 12,
'97. Two counts of vehicular manslaughter, five counts of reckless
endangerment, possession of controlled substances, criminal possession of a
weapon, parole violation. Sentence: Life imprisonment. Up for parole in 12
years.", taken from the transcript for God's Chillin. He's also got another
forty years tacked on for conspiracy to commit murder when he sent Cyril to
kill Gloria Nathan's husband.
Annie
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Oz transcripts
matt
> Well I was just reading the transcripts from the first episode and it says that
> O'Reilly got into some shootout with a Wiseguy anyway, and he wanted him killed
> in prison. Anyway, was O'Reilly in the Irish mob and what did he do to get into
> prison?
i could be mistaken here, but i'm fairly certain dino ordilani, whom is explained
in the other post by annie, was imprisoned for the attempted murder of Ryan. I
remember a sequence where Dino shot O'Reilly in the back or side but Ryan lived
through it. So when Ryan came to Oz, Dino wanted to finish off the job...
Shadowy Moon
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> i could be mistaken here, but i'm fairly certain dino ordilani, whom is
explained
> in the other post by annie, was imprisoned for the attempted murder of
Ryan.
Actually, Dino Ortolani is in Oz for murder in the first degree and assault
with a deadly weapon. I believe his altercation with Ryan took place before
he got arrested for the crime that landed him in Oz.
Odyss41101
that O'Reilly got into some shootout with a Wiseguy anyway, and he wanted him
killed
in prison. Anyway, was O'Reilly in the Irish mob and what did he do to get
>into
>prison?<
O'Reilly doesn't seem to be part of any Irish mob, but he was obviously a
drug dealer on the outside, and very familiar with the O.C. scene.
This was all covered by flashbacks in the pilot. O'Reilly gets into a
shoot-out with his wiseguy rival (John Seda); the rival ends up in Oz for life,
and blames O'Reilly. When O'Reilly himself arrives in Oz, both know it's one
or the other. But O'Reilly quickly realizes that his rival is in the midst of
destroying himself... and he gets burned to death by gangstas at the end of the
episode.
O'Reilly was jailed, not for the shootout, but for a drug-fueled rampage
behind the wheel of a car... I'm not sure if he killed anyone, tho if he did,
he certainly doesn't carry the guilt over it (as Beecher, jailed for the same
crime, does).
The most interestnig thing about O'Reilly's car "accident" is that Cyrill
was in the passenger seat; this is how he wound up brain damaged in the first
place.
Then, of course, O'Reilly decided he was in love with Gloria. He told his
wife he wanted a divorce, and gave Cyrill the task -- against Cyrill's will --
of killing Gloria's husband.
When Cyrill arrived in Oz, assigned to Unit B, he was molested by
Schillinger and his crew. In a deal with McManus to get Cyrill transferred to
Em City, O'Reilly admitted responsibility for the death of Gloria's husband,
and his sentence -- originally six years -- was expanded to (I believe) a
hundred and eighty-seven years.
So, both O'Reilly brothers are now lifers. ph
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LK Wildman
>was in the passenger seat; this is how he wound up brain damaged in the first
>place.
Close, but not quite right. Cyril got brain damaged in a *fight* that was
Ryan's fault. Ryan went on the rampage because he felt guilty about that.
Lisa K.
"I studied the part of Snow White forever, and I had it down. They gave me,
without even auditioning me, the part of the Wicked Witch. And that was when I
was eight."
-Courtney Love
seria...@uswest.net
> O'Reilly was jailed, not for the shootout, but for a drug-fueled
rampage
> behind the wheel of a car... I'm not sure if he killed anyone, tho if
he did,
> he certainly doesn't carry the guilt over it (as Beecher, jailed for
the same
> crime, does).
> The most interestnig thing about O'Reilly's car "accident" is that
Cyrill
> was in the passenger seat; this is how he wound up brain damaged in
the first
> place.
This is not how Cyril wound up brain damaged. That happened at a
wedding reception or funeral where Ryan got caught with someone's
girlfriend and a fight broke out. Ryan then went on the driving rampage
that was fueled from his guilt over what happned to Cyril. I believe
that they show the flashback in season 2 or 3.
Bonnie
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Before you buy.
Shadowy Moon
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Just making some corrections...
> The most interestnig thing about O'Reilly's car "accident" is that
Cyrill
> was in the passenger seat; this is how he wound up brain damaged in the
first
> place.
Cyril was brain-damaged previous to Ryan's rampage. He was hit in the back
of the head with a blunt object [church pew? I can't remember exactly]
during a funeral when he got into a fight defending Ryan. Ryan's rampage was
a direct result of Cyril's accident; he got high and went nuts out of rage
and grief.
In a deal with McManus to get Cyrill transferred to
> Em City, O'Reilly admitted responsibility for the death of Gloria's
husband,
> and his sentence -- originally six years -- was expanded to (I believe) a
> hundred and eighty-seven years.
Ryan's original sentence was life, up for parole in 12 years. His complicity
in Preston Nathan's murder got him another 40 years.
I'd just like to point out that this is a perfect example of discussions
that those who don't get the new season right now might want to participate
in. Anyone who keeps claiming this NG is only going to be used for new
episode discussions needs to read this thread.
Cheese Girl
>was in the passenger seat; this is how he wound up brain damaged in the first
>place.
You are mistaken. Cyril was brain damaged as a result of the fight at the
funeral. He was hit on the head with a coat rack or something. Ryan went on his
hit and run spree because of his grief/guilt over Cyrils condition. Thats why
he is in prison. Also you should see the flash back. I don't know why but I
find it hilariouse.
Cheese
Odyss41101
>> The most interestnig thing about O'Reilly's car "accident" is that Cyrill
>>was in the passenger seat; this is how he wound up brain damaged in the
>first
>>place. <<
>Close, but not quite right. Cyril got brain damaged in a *fight* that was
>Ryan's fault. Ryan went on the rampage because he felt guilty about that. <
Ah, thanks -- So, maybe you also remember if he actually killed any of the
people he hit, or were they just maimed? <G> [ph
Shadowy Moon
> Ah, thanks -- So, maybe you also remember if he actually killed any of
the
> people he hit, or were they just maimed? <G>
Since part of his conviction was for two counts of vehicular manslaughter,
I'd say it's pretty much a given that he didn't tap 'em lightly with his
bumper. <g>
matt
> Actually, Dino Ortolani is in Oz for murder in the first degree and assault
> with a deadly weapon. I believe his altercation with Ryan took place before
> he got arrested for the crime that landed him in Oz.
heh, yah. that too. regardless, dino hated ryan and ryan hated dino. :)
LK Wildman
I don't remember exactly, but I think so. I think I remember Augustus saying
"vehicular [sp?] homicide" while narrating the intro to Ryan, but I could be
wrong. I do have it on tape, but I need to give the "I don't like shows about
violent men as much as you" BF a break since he just endured me re-watching the
last half of season three this weekend since I couldn't really remember why
they were in lock-up.
BTW, this thread made me wonder when they decided Ryan's rampage was in
reaction to Cyril's getting hurt. I remember thinking before we found out
about Cyril that Ryan's crime seemed out of character for someone whose most
distinguishing characteristic is the intelligence and patience to slyly plant
seeds to get other people to kill the people he wants out of the way.
seria...@uswest.net
read off his jacket what crimes he was in for, and vehicular
manslaughter was on that list. Case said something about it being quite
a list, and Ryan, who always has a classic come back, said, "Yeah, well
I applied myself". Wow! What a man!
David
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> Actually, Dino Ortolani is in Oz for murder in the first degree and
assault
> with a deadly weapon. I believe his altercation with Ryan took place
before
> he got arrested for the crime that landed him in Oz.
IIRC Dino shot (one of Ryan's cohorts) and only wounded Ryan, and that he
was sent to prison for killing that other guy.
Shadowy Moon
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You do RC. Mea Culpa. It's been a while since I've seen The Routine, despite
my rather frightening and bewildering affection for Dino Ortolani. <g>
OKLawDog
ordinary ruffians. If I remember correctly, Ryan O'Reilly went into some well
to do club and was having sex with a married woman. The husband came in and
Cyril bashed the husband (am I correct folks?).
Ryan was arrested for either that episode or I seem to remember another one
where he was running from the police and he was drunk and hit a construction
worker or something like that and killed him.
Any corrections are welcome
OKLawDog
Cheese Girl
>to do club and was having sex with a married woman.
Funeral.
...>I seem to remember another one
>where he was running from the police and he was drunk and hit a construction
>worker or something like that and killed him.
He was half mad with greif and guilt over Cyril's brain damage.
>Any corrections are welcome
>
>OKLawDog
There you are.
Cheese :-D
Karnee6931
some girl there that he use to date. They went in a back room and were haveing
sex when her new boyfriend caught them. Her boyfriend and his buddies got into
a fight with Cyril and Ryan. Someone smashed Cyril in the head with a chair.
That is how Cyril became brain damaged. Ryan was guilt ridden. He got drunk and
went on a rampage in a car. That's why he was locked up. I don't recall him
hurting anyone on his rampage though.
<< I don't think O'Reilly was in an "Irish Mob"....he and his brother were just
ordinary ruffians. If I remember correctly, Ryan O'Reilly went into some well
to do club and was having sex with a married woman. The husband came in and
Cyril bashed the husband (am I correct folks?).
Ryan was arrested for either that episode or I seem to remember another one
where he was running from the police and he was drunk and hit a construction
worker or something like that and killed him.
Any corrections are welcome
OKLawDog
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David
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> Also, remember when Case talked to Ryan in solitary after the riot, Case
> read off his jacket what crimes he was in for, and vehicular
> manslaughter was on that list. Case said something about it being quite
> a list, and Ryan, who always has a classic come back, said, "Yeah, well
> I applied myself". Wow! What a man!
My favorite line from that conversation (re his ability to survive in OZ
despite the lack of a real gang):
"I'm like the fuckin' Lord of the Dance. I got moves."
Joe
have hit them. They might have just dived outta the way.
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seria...@uswest.net
> My favorite line from that conversation (re his ability to survive in
OZ
> despite the lack of a real gang):
> "I'm like the fuckin' Lord of the Dance. I got moves."
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I loved that!! I was not really big on Ryan, until then, and something
clicked! What a bad boy!!!
OKLawDog
while Ryan was having sex with a woman at some type of country club......the
boyfriend or husband came in and Cyril got bashed over the head with a heavy
object in the fight.
OKLawDog
Odyss41101
btw, in your profile, it's "sums it up," not "somes." ph