Mitch the Vampire
julinoe
Stoker-written method for disposing of the undead: First, you have to
drive a wooden stake through his heart. Only in the original Dracula,
this was not the neat-and-clean, slam-bam, stick-and-run method of
modern vampire stories. This was a horrifically bloody affair,
complete with agonizing writhing, bloody foaming at the mouth, and
blood-curdingly screaming---from the vampire, not his slayers. Then,
to finish him off, you were supposed to cut off the head and burn the
rest in a bonfire of Viking proportions. Only then could you be
assured that the undead was sufficiently dead.
I was SO hoping that this was what John had in mind as he pondered
while Mitch droned on and on about how he was going to prevail.
And Mitch has other traits eerily in common with vampires as well.
--julinoe
Monkey in SF
I am sick to death of him allready.
I was sick of him last time they killed him off and the time before.
I absolutely HATE that they couldn't come up with some new or
forgotten villain who is NOT Mitch. It's soooo tired.
It is an absolutely cheap trick to pull on long time viewers to keep
bringing him back. Booooo hisss, Ron Carlavati.
It's like in "Misery" when Annie (Kathy Bates) is on a rant about how
the cliffhanger serials used to rip ya off in that way. When she is
describing watching the "serials" one week at the theatre and seeing
the person drive off of a cliff.. not escaping the car.
I just keep hearing her scream "He didn't get out of the kaka-dooddy
car!" and how the audience all saw him drive off a cliff only to be
fooled the next week when they showed said person get out of the car
at the last second.
Cheap... tired.. unimaginative. Kill the bastard now, FFS!
Yes ok.. we are all allowed a tiny bit of snarky now and then. That
was mine.
Carry on.
SFJason
I don't mind it Eddie, Mitch is the best villian the show has had
since I started watching in the 80's (besides Dr. Kipling and I only
saw very little of him). If you remember I predicted this like a year
ago. :-)
SFJason
Monkey in SF
Yes, i do remember. And i also remember saying then the same exact
thing i'm saying now. Think outside of the box for a bit.
Mitch isn't the worst villain or even most original they could come up
with. He's been done LITERALLY to death.
Not to mention he is thrice dead. Total BS. This could have been a
chance for RC to write an entirely new lore for some other awful
character to haunt and terrorize Llanview.
It is a cheap plot device and an insult to every long time viewer.
"Damn our lying eyes who saw him die three times" (at least).
I'm sorry, Jason. it just is too easy and contrived and they can't get
rid of him soon enough to suit me. Cheap trick. Too easy. Lame.
SFJason
we'll have to agree to disagree. Bringing people back from the dead
is a soap staple (especially villains). Where you see unimaginative,
I see good use of history. Mitch has SO much deep history with major
players still on the show (Viki, Todd, Jess, Natalie, Dorian) as well
as new history we didn't know about (Rex, John, Charlie, Roxy) I think
multiple new storylines could spin from this.
I can't wait for people back in Llanview to react to Mitch being
alive. Todd will be out for blood because Mitch nearly killed him,
Dorian certainly has NO love lost for Mitch. Then of course Natalie
and Charlie (and maybe Roxy) will also be out for his blood because of
Jared. I am interested. Sorry you hate it but I don't! I'm sure
he'll eventually be murdered and they'll be 10 suspects as to
whodunit.
Differing opinions make the world go 'round (although I'm right and
you are wrong...kidding)
SFJason
Suzanne D.
"Monkey in SF" <mnke...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I am sick to death of him allready.
I was sick of him last time they killed him off and the time before.
Yeah, he's a good character, and the actor is one gorgeous man, but I just
don't want to see Mitch again. It's too much. They could bring back
someone who simply disappeared instead of being killed, or create a brand
new villain. I agree with you on the Misery comparison. Simply too tiring
to process. My biggest hope now is that they don't dumb down the characters
so that he gets his way all the time. Make him FIGHT for his evilness! A
clever combat between Mitch and John, with each side working hard and
earning his wins, would be much more fun than John going soft and Mitch
being god.
--S.
Suzanne D.
"SFJason" <atwat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm sure
he'll eventually be murdered and they'll be 10 suspects as to
whodunit.
They are already setting this up, it seems! He's been on the show for four
days and already Charlie has made his vow to kill him.
--S.
kevinsmom
"Suzanne D." <bbb_bus_c...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:he0ckl$phc$1...@news.albasani.net...
Which means Charlie will likely not be the killer
--
You can't have everything. . . where would you put
it?
Monkey in SF
First off- there are no "wrong opinions". They don't exist. A person
may be mistaken in fact but their opinions are their own and there are
never wrong ones-- but sometimes bad ones. But that is in the eye of
the beholder.
Second- i will give you that as far as his history goes, there is alot
to work with there.
BUT again i say it is a ***cheap trick to pull on long time
viewers***. Insulting our intellligence and loyalty to the show.
Why the hell should we believe anyone we've seen die on the show is
actually dead then? All the way from Luna or Gabrielle to Meredith
(Viki's sister) or Megan. Why should they not be among the undead? Al
or Victor Lord again, God forbid. Only Mitch. We just saw Jared bite
the dust? or did we? We will never know until they decide to pull
something like that outa their behind again in the future. Ever heard
of the term Deus Ex Machina? This snippet is from Wikipedia- so if any
hyper-links are in it, they come from there:
"A deus ex machina (pronounced /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkinə/ or /ˈdiː.əs ɛks
ˈmækɨnə/,[1] literally, in Latin, "god from the machine") is a plot
device in which a person or thing appears "out of the blue" to help a
character to overcome a seemingly insolvable difficulty. Alternatively
a person or object may have a property not revealed before. It is
generally considered to be a poor storytelling technique if used
improperly. However it is popular in fairy tale and science fiction
(for instance the fairy godmother in Cinderella or Doctor Who's sonic
screwdriver)."
Please especially note the part where it says "is generally considered
to be a poor storytelling technique if used improperly" and to me-
Mitch is Deus Ex Machine personified.
The only consolation for me as far as Mitch is concerned is that it
may bring back Allison- because Barbara Garrick is a terrific actress
(in my "opinion" LOL) and i never get tired of her special brand of
koo koo. Other than that- they should have left him dead.
I will agree with Suzanne though on one thing- the actor has aged
quite well and he looks good (for a dead man).
D.W. McKim
Mitch being back and his return shakes up the canvas in a way that's
needed it.
I've known for ages they wanted to reveal Mitch as Rex's father and that
was continually derailed due to RB's availability and also the 2008
Writers' Strike.
I really wish i knew what RC's original plan was - i can't imagine it
would be what's playing out now. I had hoped that we wouldn't actually
be a return-from-the-dead but instead Mitch would be seen on that
dvd-of-mystery of Allison's and that he'd be seen in flashbacks. But
after they did that whole routine with Roxy visiting the secret comatose
patient with the EE-vil Nurse that yes, they would end up bringing him
back.
I remember the cartoon character Mitch became the last time he was on
the show - he wore out and waaay overstayed his welcome last time and i
don't want to see him do an overlong stay this time either - let him
shake things up, have the electrifying scenes and confrontations with
the people he should (which i hope includes a return of Cassie and/or
Tina) and then be taken off the canvas for good (I don't even want to
see him die this time because we've been through that ad nauseum and it
never meant anything - let him rot away with a lifetime sentence in jail
- no escapes or breakouts just full justice).
I also remember how last time he supposedly died, Todd did all these
things to his body - and it was like the show itself was saying "Yeah,
we know we may have abused our Get-Out-Of-Death-Free card with a
character who we've established as being Really Truly Dead but we're
quasi making up for it by showing you that yes, this time we are killing
him off for good" Now, to have him back among the living is abuse.
And it's becoming way to commonplace for the show to just throw its
history out the window and it's doubly insulting to the viewers because
we've been led to believe that the show is now in the hands of someone
who honors and cherishes the show's history. Serial storytelling should
be an art form and it's something that really doesn't exist much anymore
where you have continuing stories that have decades of history except
for soaps and comic books. But no one wants to take advantage of these
rare opportunities to mine such complex tales and their pasts but rather
use the "most modern day audiences don't remember the past so we can get
away with ignoring it" approach.
I see Ron Carlivati's name in the credits every day but more and more
the show feels like it's being written by Dena Higley again. We have
teenagers that should be no more than seven years old based on what
we've RECENTLY been told. We have villains making another return from
the dead when there is no plausible way they should be alive both this
time AND the previous time. The show no longer rewards long time
viewers, it's now openly contemptous of them. Storytelling like this
(or rather NON-storytelling) does nothing but ultimately insult its
viewers. I tried to be supportive of the show when the cancellation
rumors broke. I can't do that anymore. For the last month, OLTL had
dropped to ABC's lowest rated soap for the first time in awhile and the
sixth out of seven soaps with only As the World Turns garnering lower
ratings. Last week ATWT overtook OLTL and OLTL was at the very bottom
and part of me right now is saying "Good!" You insult your viewers; you
tell them we don't care about you because we're not even trying to tell
stories that make sense on a daily basis and will do whatever we want,
Show Bible be damned and the viewers will tune out. We're not a bunch
of Blair Cramers who continue to keep going back and supporting someone
who abuses us. I've watched since 1992 and have actively sought out
videos and storylines of the previous years i'd missed and only tuned
out once - from approx. 1997-2001. I've held on during the Higley years
and that's saying a lot. I'm very close to tuning out again and i think
it's only because i know the show is probably on its last legs and i
want to see how it will end that keeps me going.
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D.W. McKim
Since they have obviously committed to having him back, i fully expect
them to mine the story possibilities of having him there or it will
REALLY be pointless; if he finishes his run without...
- Touching on Allison's secret (which i expect would be that Jessica is
a Buke, heck this should be addressed even if Allison actually had a
totally different secret)
- Addressing that he is still married to Dorian (and so far they already
seem to be failing on this one with his claims on Natalie)
- Wrapping up the whole hanging mystery as to what was really up with
that whole alive-again Victor deal that RC seemed so anxious to want to
fix in Episode 10,000.
i will really be so finished with this show once and for all. They've
violated a trust from their audience with this move to bring him back
from the dead yet again so if doing so ends up being for nothing when
all is said and done, i will be first in line begging Frons and ABC to
put the show out of its misery.
Monkey in SF
> commentary plus other areas of interest and cool stuff.
(in reply to both DW posts)
THANK YOU!
That was exactly my point.
Do i want to see OLTL come to an end over this?? NO!! I've watched
ever since i was a tiny tot back in the early 70's! This show was born
the same year as i was! Viki and Dorian are sort of the equivilant of
"TV Aunts" to me in a weird- yet still quasi-realistic way.
That's why i am so aggrivated at RC's lack of foresite in this
storyline.
I had 2 years of Creative Writing and Enlgish Lit. in High School and
such. Even off of the top of my head, i could think of at least 4
different scenarios that they could have went with in this SL. But
then- they didn't ask me did they? LOL
Thank you, DW.
I actually expected you to lay into me as well on this subject- even
though any disagreement with any of you here is just matter of opinion
and certainly nothing personal.
Cheers to Jason especially-- for keeping it lively.
~:o}
Monkey in SF
> > commentary plus other areas of interest and cool stuff.
>
> (in reply to both DW posts)
>
> THANK YOU!
> That was exactly my point.
>
> Do i want to see OLTL come to an end over this?? NO!! I've watched
> ever since i was a tiny tot back in the early 70's! This show was born
> the same year as i was! Viki and Dorian are sort of the equivilant of
> "TV Aunts" to me in a weird- yet still quasi-realistic way.
> That's why i am so aggrivated at RC's lack of foresite in this
> storyline.
>
> I had 2 years of Creative Writing and Enlgish Lit. in High School and
> such. Even off of the top of my head, i could think of at least 4
> different scenarios that they could have went with in this SL. But
> then- they didn't ask me did they? LOL
>
> Thank you, DW.
> I actually expected you to lay into me as well on this subject- even
> though any disagreement with any of you here is just matter of opinion
> and certainly nothing personal.
> Cheers to Jason especially-- for keeping it lively.
> ~:o}
Of cousre, 2 yrs of Eng, Lit and a year of Typing class cannot explain
away my typos of this day and age.
I, as always- blame this laptop keyboard.. that i will never EVER be
able to master. (sigh)
Or maybe it just needs a good blast from the air-can thingy. lol
SFJason
> > commentary plus other areas of interest and cool stuff.
>
> (in reply to both DW posts)
>
> THANK YOU!
> That was exactly my point.
>
> Do i want to see OLTL come to an end over this?? NO!! I've watched
> ever since i was a tiny tot back in the early 70's! This show was born
> the same year as i was! Viki and Dorian are sort of the equivilant of
> "TV Aunts" to me in a weird- yet still quasi-realistic way.
> That's why i am so aggrivated at RC's lack of foresite in this
> storyline.
>
> I had 2 years of Creative Writing and Enlgish Lit. in High School and
> such. Even off of the top of my head, i could think of at least 4
> different scenarios that they could have went with in this SL. But
> then- they didn't ask me did they? LOL
>
> Thank you, DW.
> I actually expected you to lay into me as well on this subject- even
> though any disagreement with any of you here is just matter of opinion
> and certainly nothing personal.
> Cheers to Jason especially-- for keeping it lively.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh I can totally see your are DW's point. I'm just enjoying the show
and I don't feel insulted. Afterall this is a show that had
underground city, time travel and heaven as a spaceship circling
earth. What's a little bringing someone back from the dead two or
three times? LOL
SFJason
D.W. McKim
their own rules as it were that allowed viewers to accept them. The
Heaven story totally established Mitch was dead. For all the silliness
in the time travel stories, they were escapist and campy but still
followed a path. I'd be impressed if they actually address some of the
modern glaring inconsistencies with a magic/supernatural angle because
that's the only way they'd make sense - yeah, it would be a very WEAK
attempt, but it would be an attempt nonetheless - like the various
openings in the time portals and time travels created a Butterfly Effect
that allowed for Mitch to now be alive or something like that.
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http://community.webtv.net/larynx1/UltravioletMUSEings/index.html
http://muppetfreak.blogstream.com - 75/85% Muppet/Henson fandom
Suzanne D.
"D.W. McKim" <dw...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> True that, but even then each story, fantastic as they were, followed
> their own rules as it were that allowed viewers to accept them. The
> Heaven story totally established Mitch was dead. For all the silliness
> in the time travel stories, they were escapist and campy but still
> followed a path.
I feel this way too! It's why I can accept a storyline that involves an
embryo transplant, but get really annoyed when an emergency worker can tell
Stacy without any sort of exam that she's had a miscarriage. If you are
going to make your own fantasy rules and keep the stories within those rule,
fine. But if you are going to try to make it realistic, then make it
realistic.
--S.
Monkey in SF
> commentary plus other areas of interest and cool stuff.
Ahh, now there ya go, DW! Even that i might could live with if done
well. The Butterfly Effect thing. Interesting.
But then again- i am a huge Dark Shadows fan and on that show.. it was
an "anything goes" type of deal because it dealt largely with the
supernatural (vampires, witches, ghosts, werewolves- you name it)
along with time travel and also great "Parallel Time" story lines.
On DS it was very commonplace for the dead to return- be it "alive",
"undead" or other. It also allowed many of the actors to play other
roles to mix it up a bit- which many of them enjoyed a great deal.
Hand-of-Omega
> Oh I can totally see your are DW's point. I'm just enjoying the show
> and I don't feel insulted. Afterall this is a show that had
> underground city, time travel and heaven as a spaceship circling
> earth.
0_0
Man, how come I miss all the *cool* storylines?
Shoot, show's on, gotta go!
Dex^^
SFJason
> On Nov 19, 1:07 pm, d...@webtv.net (D.W. McKim) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > True that, but even then each story, fantastic as they were, followed
> > their own rules as it were that allowed viewers to accept them. The
> > Heaven story totally established Mitch was dead. For all the silliness
> > in the time travel stories, they were escapist and campy but still
> > followed a path. I'd be impressed if they actually address some of the
> > modern glaring inconsistencies with a magic/supernatural angle because
> > that's the only way they'd make sense - yeah, it would be a very WEAK
> > attempt, but it would be an attempt nonetheless - like the various
> > openings in the time portals and time travels created a Butterfly Effect
> > that allowed for Mitch to now be alive or something like that.
>
> > --------------------------------------
> > d.w. mckimhttp://community.webtv.net/larynx1/UltravioletMUSEings/index.html
>
> > commentary plus other areas of interest and cool stuff.
>
> Ahh, now there ya go, DW! Even that i might could live with if done
> well. The Butterfly Effect thing. Interesting.
> But then again- i am a huge Dark Shadows fan and on that show.. it was
> an "anything goes" type of deal because it dealt largely with the
> supernatural (vampires, witches, ghosts, werewolves- you name it)
> along with time travel and also great "Parallel Time" story lines.
>
> On DS it was very commonplace for the dead to return- be it "alive",
> "undead" or other. It also allowed many of the actors to play other
>
> - Show quoted text -
might could? ;-)
Remember when that crazy Buchanan cousin (Austin?) raped Sarah (the
original Sarah that married Bo) and she killed him. Then I think Cord
and maybe Clint or Max buried him to hide the evidence.
There was a hilariously ridiculous scene of Austin hand popping out of
the grave like something from Dark Shadows (or Evil Dead). I remember
laughing hysterically at it.
SFJason
Monkey in SF
Yes. Might could. It's a prefectly good mis-use of the English
language LOL.
Maybe i picked it up in the South- who knows. I've lived all over the
map.
it's just my Monkey Slang for "maybe" or "perhaps" but i "might could"
go with either one if i chose
~:oD
Ah, you know my way of posting is SO informal. I'm only pedantic about
my own typos- which i am known for. lol
> Remember when that crazy Buchanan cousin (Austin?) raped Sarah (the
> original Sarah that married Bo) and she killed him. Then I think Cord
> and maybe Clint or Max buried him to hide the evidence.
>
> There was a hilariously ridiculous scene of Austin hand popping out of
> the grave like something from Dark Shadows (or Evil Dead). I remember
> laughing hysterically at it.
>
> SFJason
Oh- the does ring a bell. The hand thing. Very DS.
Witchy Way
while Mitch droned on and on about how he was going to prevail.
And Mitch has other traits eerily in common with vampires as well.>>
they are rather venturing into Port Charles land arent they!