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As promised yesterday, each time the Jewish dominance at the CBC rams dogma on
"The Holocau$t" down our throats, I'll post something they don't want you to
see. On Tuesday's _The National_ there were not one but two propaganda pieces.

This posting below is in response the the Hana's Sutcase fraud. In it CBC boldly
states Hana was killed in a "gas chamber". You see they keep saying it and
people beieve it because they have heard it over and over.

The Institute for Historical Review ("IHR") is devoted to exposing historical
truth. This is an easy to read piece, "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" by Mark
Weber. Go there, or read it posted below and learn why the Jews don't want you
to know about this.
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml
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Auschwitz: Myths and Facts
by Mark Weber

Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime concentration camp
where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were reportedly exterminated,
especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is widely regarded as the most terrible
Nazi extermination center. The camp's horrific reputation cannot, however, be
reconciled with the facts.

Scholars Challenge Holocaust Story
Astonishing as it may seem, more and more historians and engineers have been
challenging the widely accepted Auschwitz story. These "revisionist" scholars do
not dispute the fact that large numbers of Jews were deported to the camp, or
that many died there, particularly of typhus and other diseases. But the
compelling evidence they present shows that Auschwitz was not an extermination
center and that the story of mass killings in "gas chambers" is a myth.

The Auschwitz Camps
The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now south-central
Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there between 1942 and mid-1944.

The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II, was
supposedly the main extermination center, and Monowitz, or Auschwitz III, was a
large industrial center where gasoline was produced from coal. In addition there
were dozens of smaller satellite camps devoted to the war economy.

Four Million Victims?
At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans
exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This figure, which was invented
by the Soviets, was uncritically accepted for many years. It often appeared in
major American newspapers and magazines, for example. (note 1)

Today no reputable historian, not even those who generally accept the
extermination story, believes this figure. Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda
Bauer said in 1989 that it is time to finally acknowledge the familiar four
million figure is a deliberate myth. In July 1990 the Auschwitz State Museum in
Poland, along with Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, suddenly announced that
altogether perhaps one million people (both Jews and non-Jews) died there.
Neither institution would say how many of these people were killed, nor were any
estimates given of the numbers of those supposedly gassed. (note 2) One
prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald Reitlinger, has estimated that perhaps
700,000 or so Jews perished at Auschwitz. More recently, Holocaust historian
Jean-Claude Pressac has estimated that about 800,000 persons -- of whom 630,000
were Jewish -- perished at Auschwitz. While even such lower figures are
incorrect, they show how the Auschwitz story has changed drastically over the
years. (note 3)

Bizarre Tales
At one time it was seriously claimed that Jews were systematically electrocuted
at Auschwitz. American newspapers, citing a Soviet eyewitness report from
liberated Auschwitz, told readers in February 1945 that the methodical Germans
had killed Jews there using an "electric conveyor belt on which hundreds of
persons could be electrocuted simultaneously [and] then moved on into furnaces.
They were burned almost instantly, producing fertilizer for nearby cabbage
fields." (note 4)

And at the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that
the Germans used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000
Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." (note
5) No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales.

The Höss 'Confession'
A key Holocaust document is the "confession" of former Auschwitz commandant
Rudolf Höss of April 5, 1946, which was submitted by the U.S. prosecution at the
main Nuremberg trial. (note 6)

Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for the Auschwitz extermination
story, it is actually a false statement that was obtained by torture.

Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant Bernard Clarke
described how he and five other British soldiers tortured the former commandant
to obtain his "confession." Höss himself privately explained his ordeal in these
words: "Certainly, I signed a statement that I killed two and half million Jews.
I could just as well have said that it was five million Jews. There are certain
methods by which any confession can be obtained, whether it is true or not."
(note 7)

Even historians who generally accept the Holocaust extermination story now
acknowledge that many of the specific statements made in the Höss "affidavit"
are simply not true. For one thing, no serious scholar now claims that anything
like two and a half or three million people perished in Auschwitz.

The Höss "affidavit" further alleges that Jews were already being exterminated
by gas in the summer of 1941 at three other camps: Belzec, Treblinka and Wolzek.
The "Wolzek" camp mentioned by Höss is a total invention. No such camp existed,
and the name is no longer mentioned in Holocaust literature. Moreover, the story
these days by those who believe in the Holocaust legend is that gassings of Jews
did not begin at Auschwitz, Treblinka, or Belzec until sometime in 1942.

No Documentary Evidence
Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were
confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a policy or
program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story cannot be reconciled
with the documentary evidence.

Many Jewish Inmates Unable to Work
For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were unable to
work were immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young, sick, or weak were
supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who could be worked to death were
temporarily kept alive.

But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the Jewish
inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed. For example, an
internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from the chief of the Labor
Allocation department of the SS Economic and Administrative Main Office (WVHA),
reported that of 25,000 Jewish inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to
work, and that all of the remaining Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86
percent -- were unable to work. (note 8)

This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on "security
measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS concentration camp system,
to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported that there was a total of 67,000
inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000 were hospitalized
or disabled. In the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly the main
extermination center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of whom
"approximately 15,000 are unable to work." (note 9)

These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz extermination
story.

The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily as a camp
for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and elderly, as well as
for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment to other camps. That's the
considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University, who also says
that this was the reason for the unusually high death rate there. (note 10)

Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish, acknowledges
in a recent book about the "final solution" that more Jews perished at Auschwitz
as a result of typhus and other "natural" causes than were executed. (note 11)

Anne Frank
Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known around the
world for her famous diary. But few people know that thousands of Jews,
including Anne and her father, Otto Frank, "survived" Auschwitz.

The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands to
Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of the advancing
Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other Jews to the Bergen-Belsen
camp, where she died of typhus in March 1945.

Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp hospital
to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews who were left behind
when the Germans abandoned the camp in January 1945, shortly before it was
overrun by the Soviets. He died in Switzerland in 1980.

If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they would not
have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was, cannot be reconciled
with the extermination story.

Allied Propaganda
The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of
former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any evidence of extermination.
Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz
were widespread.

Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German,
on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being
gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of
the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied
radio stations. (note 12)

Survivor Testimony
Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of extermination at
Auschwitz.

An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp experiences in
a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau
in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish forced laborer. On the train
trip to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the others that they would all be
gassed at Auschwitz.

Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go into a
large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified women were
sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water came out of
the shower heads.

Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed the death of
many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and quite a few committed
suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass killings, gassings, or of any
extermination program. (note 13)

A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary in
July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily. She
likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of "gas
chambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing stories
only later. (note 14)

Inmates Released
Auschwitz internees who had served their sentences were released and returned to
their home countries. If Auschwitz had actually been a top secret extermination
center, the Germans would certainly not have released inmates who "knew" what
was happening in the camp. (note 15)

Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced
In response to the deaths of many inmates due to disease, especially typhus, the
German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm counter-measures.

The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec. 28,
1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply criticized the
high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that "camp physicians
must use all means at their disposal to significantly reduce the death rate in
the various camps." Furthermore, it ordered:

The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition of the
prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit improvement
recommendations to the camp commandants ... The camp doctors are to see to it
that the working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as
possible.

Finally, the directive stressed that "the Reichsfhrer SS [Heinrich Himmler] has
ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced." (note 16)

German Camp Regulations
Official German camp regulations make clear that Auschwitz was not an
extermination center. They ordered: (note 17)

New arrivals in the camp are to be given a thorough medical examination, and if
there is any doubt [about their health], they must be sent to quarantine for
observation.

Prisoners who report sick must be examined that same day by the camp physician.
If necessary, the physician must transfer the prisoners to a hospital for
professional treatment.

The camp physician must regularly inspect the kitchen regarding the preparation
of the food and the quality of the food supply. Any deficiencies that may arise
must be reported to the camp commandant.

Special care should be given in the treatment of accidents, in order not to
impair the full productivity of the prisoners.

Prisoners who are to be released or transfered must first be brought before the
camp physician for medical examination.

Telltale Aerial Photos
Detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau on
several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged extermination
period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. These photos show no trace of
piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys or masses of Jews awaiting death,
things that have been repeatedly alleged, and all of which would have been
clearly visible if Auschwitz had been the extermination center it is said to
have been. (note 18)

Absurd Cremation Claims
Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not
possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and summer of 1944
at Auschwitz, as commonly alleged.

For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary, Canada,
testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation story is
technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even 20,000 corpses were
burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944 in crematories and open pits
is simply "preposterous" and "beyond the realm of reality," he declared under
oath. (note 19)

Gassing Expert Refutes Extermination Story
America's leading gas chamber expert, Boston engineer Fred A. Leuchter,
carefully examined the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and concluded that the
Auschwitz gassing story is absurd and technically impossible.

Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of gas
chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals. For example,
he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state penitentiary.

In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the "gas
chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which are either still
standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn testimony to a Toronto court and
in a technical report, Leuchter described every aspect of his investigation.

He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing facilities could
not possibly have been used to kill people. Among other things, he pointed out
that the so-called "gas chambers" were not properly sealed or vented to kill
human beings without also killing German camp personnel. (note 20)

Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by the Dupont
Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that the Auschwitz gassing
story is technically impossible. Based on a careful on-site examination of the
"gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek, and on his years of
experience, he declared: "I have come to the conclusion that no one was
willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B [hydrocyanic acid gas] in this
manner. I consider it absolutely impossible." (note 21)

Notes
1) Nuremberg document 008-USSR. IMT blue series, Vol. 39, pp. 241, 261.; NC and
A red series, vol. 1, p. 35.; C.L. Sulzberger, "Oswiecim Killings Placed at
4,000,000," New York Times, May 8, 1945, and, New York Times, Jan. 31, 1986, p.
A4.
2) Y. Bauer, "Fighting the Distortions," Jerusalem Post (Israel), Sept. 22,
1989; "Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a Million," Daily Telegraph (London), July
17, 1990; "Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1 Million," The 4)
Washington Times, July 17, 1990.
3) G. Reitlinger, The Final Solution (1971); J.-C. Pressac, Le Crématoires
d'Auschwitz: La Machinerie du meurtre de mass (Paris: CNRS, 1993). On Pressac's
estimates, see: L'Express (France), Sept. 30, 1993, p. 33.
4) Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, pp. 2, 35. (United Press dispatch
from Moscow).
5) IMT blue series, Vol. 16, p. 529-530. (June 21, 1946).
6) Nuremberg document 3868-PS (USA-819). IMT blue series, Vol. 33, pp. 275-279.
7) Rupert Butler, Legions of Death (England: 1983), pp. 235; R. Faurisson, The
Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.
8) Archives of the Jewish Historical Institute of Warsaw, German document No.
128, in: H. Eschwege, ed., Kennzeichen J (East Berlin: 1966), p. 264.
9) Nuremberg document NO-021. NMT green series, Vol. 5. pp. 384-385.
10) Arthur Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (Costa Mesa, Calif.), p. 124.
11) Arno Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The 'Final Solution' in History
(Pantheon, 1989), p. 365.
12) Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT green series, Vol. 8, p. 606.
13) Testimony in Toronto District Court, March 28, 1988. Toronto Star, March 29,
1988, p. A2.
14) Sylvia Rothchild, ed., Voices from the Holocaust (New York: 1981), pp.
188-191.
15) Walter Laqueur, The Terrible Secret (Boston: 1981), p. 169.
16) Nuremberg document PS-2171, Annex 2. NC&A red series, Vol. 4, pp. 833-834.
17) "Rules and Regulations for the Concentration Camps." Anthology, Inhuman
Medicine, Vol. 1, Part 1 (Warsaw: International Auschwitz Committee, 1970), pp.
149-151.; S. Paskuly, ed., Death Dealer: the Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at
Auschwitz (Buffalo: 1992), pp. 216-217.
18) Dino A. Brugioni and Robert C. Poirier, The Holocaust Revisited (Washington,
DC: Central Intelligence Agency, 1979).
19) Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), April 14, 1988, p. 6.
20) The Leuchter Report: An Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution Gas
Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek (Toronto: 1988). Available for
$17.00, postpaid, from the IHR.
21) The Globe and Mail (Toronto), Feb. 12, 1985, p. M3

Summary
The Auschwitz extermination story originated as wartime propaganda. Now, more
than 40 years after the end of the Second World War, it is time to take another,
more objective look at this highly polemicized chapter of history. The Auschwitz
legend is the core of the Holocaust story. If hundreds of thousands of Jews were
not systematically killed there, as alleged, one of the great myths of our time
collapses.

Artificially maintaining the hatreds and passions of the past prevents genuine
reconciliation and lasting peace. Revisionism promotes historical awareness and
international understanding. That is why the work of the Institute for
Historical Review is so important and deserves your support.


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About the Author:
Mark Weber is editor of The Journal of Historical Review, published six times
yearly by the Institute for Historical Review. He studied history at the
University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich, Portland State
University, and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For five days in March 1988, he
testified as a recognized expert witness on the "final solution" and the
Holocaust issue in a Toronto District Court case. He is the author of many
published articles, reviews and essays on various aspects of modern European
history. Weber has appeared as a guest on numerous radio talk shows, and on the
nationally-syndicated "Montel Williams" television show.

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ur ridiculous hate propaganda.......face it the nazis were evil, sinister
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"Kanuk" <Kanuk_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> As promised yesterday, each time the Jewish dominance at the CBC rams
dogma on
> "The Holocau$t" down our throats, I'll post something they don't want you
to
> see. On Tuesday's _The National_ there were not one but two propaganda
pieces.
>
> This posting below is in response the the Hana's Sutcase fraud. In it CBC
boldly
> states Hana was killed in a "gas chamber". You see they keep saying it and
> people beieve it because they have heard it over and over.
>
And because people were murdered in gas chambers by the Nazis. But hey,
every historian is a dupe or part of "the conspiracy" except for the tiny
handful of malcontents you quote, right?

<snip of propaganda from IHR>

tim gueguen 101867


Kanuk

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In article <4WScc.7891$uc5....@news1.mts.net>, Zofia&Richard says...

>
>what a joke........u people will attempt anything and say anything to spread
>ur ridiculous hate propaganda.......face it the nazis were evil, sinister
>individuals who couldn't stand the a particular race new how to support and
>make money the easy way.

The notion that the Germans gassed little Hana is preposterous and typical of
wartime propaganda. No proof, of course. (Jews never seem to die of typhus or
Allied fire-bombing - always gassed.)

In CBC's update of Hana's Suitcase, they revealed that the suitcase was a fake -
a modern case altered to look like WWII vintage. The Auschwitz authorities kept
that fact a secret. This is typical of many, many elements of the Holohoax.

What CBC will never tell us is that the entire "gas chambers" now shown to
tourists at Auschwitz is also a fake. The same authorities now concede the
point. Tourists are still led to believe it is genuine.

There is lots of info on the Web about this hoax. I did a search of the IHR
site, http://www.ihr.org/index.html and came up with the following. Note, as a
side issue, how the deaths attributed to Auschwitz were officially revised down
from 4,000,000 to 1,500,000 - but by Holomath, the six million figure remains
unchanged.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n1p23_Weber.html


Major French Magazine Acknowledges Auschwitz Gas Chamber Fraud

One of France's most influential and reputable magazines, L'Express, now
acknowledges that "everything is false" about the Auschwitz "gas chamber" that
for decades has been shown to tens of thousands of tourists yearly.

"Auschwitz: The Memory of Evil," a lengthy article by journalist and historian
Eric Conan, a dedicated anti-revisionist, appears in the January 19-25, 1995,
issue, pages 54-73 (and in the Jan. 26 international edition). L'Express is a
liberal large-circulation weekly news magazine, similar in format to Time or
Newsweek.

L'Express also reports that, after a five-year battle among the "experts,"
Polish president Lech Walesa has decided that the new, revised number of dead to
be inscribed on the Birkenau monument will be 1,500,000. (For years the monument
proclaimed 4,000,000 Auschwitz deaths.)

Generally speaking, writes Conan, there have been many obvious falsifications in
the Auschwitz and Birkenau camp sites. Stefan Wilkanowicz, vice-president of the
International Committee of the Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum (and
director of an influential Polish Catholic periodical), says:

The biggest blunders have been rectified but the principal discussions are
never-ending and far from being settled. I can even say that essential debates,
distressing, sometimes unexpected, are only beginning.

About the famous "gas chamber" in the Auschwitz I camp, Conan writes:

In 1948, when the Museum was created, Crematory I was reconstructed in a
supposed original state. Everything in it is false [Tout y est faux]: the
dimensions of the gas chamber, the locations of the doors, the openings for
pouring in Zyklon B, the ovens (rebuilt according to the recollections of some
survivors), the height of the chimney. At the end of the 70s, Robert Faurisson
exploited those falsifications all the better because at that time the Museum
officials balked at admitting them. An American revisionist [David Cole] has
just shot a video in the gas chamber (still presented as authentic): one may see
him questioning the visitors with his "revelations" [Emphasis added.]

In spite of this, Conan goes on to report, there are no plans to alter anything
there. With regard to the famous "gas chamber," a staff member of the Museum
directors' office, Krystyna Oleksy, says: "For the time being we are going to
leave it in the present state, and not give any specifics to the visitors. It is
too complicated. We'll see later on."

Victory for Revisionism
This feature article in a leading French magazine is a great victory for
Holocaust revisionism. On a key point, L'Express now acknowledges, the
revisionists have been right all along.

In fact, the magazine concedes a point that revisionists have been legally
penalized for making. Dr. Robert Faurisson, Europe's foremost revisionist
scholar, was heavily fined after repeating it on numerous occasions during his
"thought crime" trials in France. (Will the French government now prosecute
L'Express magazine and journalist Conan for their revisionist Holocaust views?)

In May 1992 a German court fined David Irving 10,000 marks (about $6,000) for
publicly saying what L'Express now openly admits. (See: "Irving Fined $6,000 in
German 'Gas Chamber' Trial," IHR Newsletter, July-Aug. 1992, pp. 3-4.)

The court punished the British historian because he had told a Munich meeting in
April 1990 that the structure in Auschwitz that has been portrayed for decades
to tourists as an extermination gas chamber is a phony reconstruction
("Attrappe"), just like the one at Dachau.

Irving was found guilty of thus "disparaging the memory of the dead," a crime in
Germany that effectively applies only to Jewish victims. In the case the Judge
refused to consider any of the evidence presented by Irving's attorneys,
including a plea to permit Dr. Franciszek Piper, Senior Curator and archives
director of the Auschwitz State Musueum, to testify in the case.

Faurisson's Comment
Dr. Faurisson comments on Conan's article:

Clearly, the Auschwitz propagandists are at a loss. Oleksy's statement is an
important vindication of the revisionist position. Every visitor of the
Auschwitz "gas chamber" should confront the guides (or, if possible, Museum
officials) with these sentences by Oleksy.

During a September 1992 interview with American revisionist David Cole,
Auschwitz Museum Curator Piper said, "so now this gas chamber [at Auschwitz I]
is very similar to this one which existed in 1941-1942."

As Conan knows, already in 1976 I demonstrated the falsehood of this entire
story by questioning Museum official Jan Machalek, and by finding in the
Auschwitz Museum files original plans clearly showing that, in fact, the alleged
"gas chamber" was, between October 7, 1941, and August 31, 1943, a room with a
single entrance where dead bodies awaiting cremation were stored.

If Museum officials now wish to rebuild the room as it was during the war, they
will have to fill in the south-east doorway. After doing so, though, they would
no longer be able to explain how the alleged victims entered the "gas chamber"
for gassing. I do not think the officials would dare contend that the victims
entered by way of the door of the ovens room.

For details on these points, see what I published in Serge Thion's 1980 book
Vérité historique ou vérité politique? La question des chambres à gaz, pp.
316-317. I have also repeatedly mentioned the story of that "reconstructed" gas
chamber in The Journal of Historical Review (see, for instance, Winter 1981
issue, p. 335), as well as during the 1985 and 1988 Zündel trials in Toronto
(see, for instance, 1985 Trial, Transcript, pp. 2364-2366). Even as early as
1968, Olga Wormser-Migot wrote in her book Le Système concentrationnaire nazi
(p. 157) that the Auschwitz I camp was "without a gas chamber." In 1985, Raul
Hilberg stated under oath during the first Zündel trial in Toronto (Transcript,
p. 774), and Pierre Vidal-Naquet wrote in L'Allemagne nazie et le génocide juif
(pp. 510, 516, n. 94), what Franciszek Piper said to Cole in 1992. Jean-Claude
Pressac told the same story in his 1989 book, Auschwitz: Technique and Operation
of the Gas Chambers (pp. 108, 123, 133).

In his L'Express article, Conan mentions Jean-Claude Pressac's 1993 book, Les
Crématoires d'Auschwitz. Among the fantastic number of "dossiers" and articles
recently published in French newspapers and magazines in connection with the
50th anniversary of the camp's liberation, this article may perhaps be the only
one to mention that book. Pressac's ambivalence has become an embarrassment for
the "exterminationists." For instance, his estimate in Les Crématoires
d'Auschwitz (1993) of total Auschwitz deaths was 775,000 (rounded up to
800,000), and in the 1994 German edition he further reduced this to between
630,000 and 710,000 (of whom, he asserts, 470,000 to 550,000 were "gassed"
Jews).

Zofia&Richard

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Apr 7, 2004, 5:51:30 PM4/7/04
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yeah i guess ur right!! why else would the world be led to believe that so
many jews were gassed.....hmmmm ....lets see because it happened now get off
ur " the white race is the chosen race" attitude and start treating ur
fellow man like a human should be treated!!! by the way like all white
supremists they do believe in the bible?? right?? maybe not because in the
bible it teaches love for everyone....not hatred just because he/she is
black,white,red,yellow,jew,muslim!!!

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Scotty

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Apr 7, 2004, 8:38:37 PM4/7/04
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> >what a joke........u people will attempt anything and say anything to spread
> >ur ridiculous hate propaganda.......face it the nazis were evil, sinister
> >individuals who couldn't stand the a particular race new how to support and
> >make money the easy way.
>
> The notion that the Germans gassed little Hana is preposterous and typical of
> wartime propaganda. No proof, of course. (Jews never seem to die of typhus or
> Allied fire-bombing - always gassed.)
I watched the origional documentery. The official records shown that
she was at least killed.
With regards to no one dying if Allied fire-bombing; propaganda at the
time. The Allied gov'ts never wanted to look bad in front of their own
people.

> In CBC's update of Hana's Suitcase, they revealed that the suitcase was a fake -
> a modern case altered to look like WWII vintage. The Auschwitz authorities kept
> that fact a secret. This is typical of many, many elements of the Holohoax.
Hate was also an element of it. It was suspected that fire was started
on purpose. It was very nice of the museum to even make a replacement
in the first place, to show what it looked like. Don't get me wrong,
the museum should have told it was a replica.

> What CBC will never tell us is that the entire "gas chambers" now shown to
> tourists at Auschwitz is also a fake. The same authorities now concede the
> point. Tourists are still led to believe it is genuine.
So? I shows what the real thing looked like. There are many historical
sites in Canada that is a replica from the real thing. Look at Fort
Edmonton in Edmonton. It teaches about the city history, but is not
the actual Fort Edmonton.

> There is lots of info on the Web about this hoax. I did a search of the IHR
> site, http://www.ihr.org/index.html and came up with the following. Note, as a
> side issue, how the deaths attributed to Auschwitz were officially revised down
> from 4,000,000 to 1,500,000 - but by Holomath, the six million figure remains
> unchanged.
>
Doesn't matter anymore. It was a dark day in history and shows us what
can happen if intolerance takes over our society.

yp

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Apr 7, 2004, 9:18:48 PM4/7/04
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On 7 Apr 2004 08:41:26 -0700, Kanuk <Kanuk_...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>In article <4WScc.7891$uc5....@news1.mts.net>, Zofia&Richard says...
>>
>>what a joke........u people will attempt anything and say anything to spread
>>ur ridiculous hate propaganda.......face it the nazis were evil, sinister
>>individuals who couldn't stand the a particular race new how to support and
>>make money the easy way.
>
>The notion that the Germans gassed little Hana is preposterous and typical of
>wartime propaganda. No proof, of course. (Jews never seem to die of typhus or
>Allied fire-bombing - always gassed.)
>
>In CBC's update of Hana's Suitcase, they revealed that the suitcase was a fake -
>a modern case altered to look like WWII vintage. The Auschwitz authorities kept
>that fact a secret. This is typical of many, many elements of the Holohoax.
>

Yes, I was watching the CBC News, when Peter Mansbridge started to
talk about this Hana and the Holocaust. As soon as I heard this word
"Holocaust", I switched the channel. I think that the Jews are hated
by many Canadians because they constantly use this word "Holocaust".
Each time I hear about Holocaust survivors, I am close to puke. When
the hell are they going to stop talking about this fucking Holocaust?

Paul Morgan

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Yeah!! That way we can forget about the whole thing.

Raymond J. Henry

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Apr 8, 2004, 8:17:20 AM4/8/04
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 21:18:48 -0400, yp <yp...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Each time I hear about Holocaust survivors, I am close to puke. When
>the hell are they going to stop talking about this fucking Holocaust?

When people actually learn from the past, and rise up against such
intolerance and evil.


catchmerevisited

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Apr 21, 2004, 5:55:09 PM4/21/04
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in article 5lga709u1eoh17thi...@4ax.com, Raymond J. Henry at
rayhen...@nashmet.com wrote on 4/8/04 5:17 AM:

'intolerance' seems to be a subjective term.
And 'evil' definitely is.
In schools, they have stdents read the Lord of the Flies, and draw
comparisons on Jack's (a central characterin the book) style of leadership
with Germany's, with the example of classifying non-Germans as "evil". by
dehumanizing your enemies, it makes it more acceptable to hate them, and
therefore to kill them.
remember the victor writes the history books, not the vanquished.
2 books worth reading are "the Rise and Fall of the Third Rech", by William
Schirer, and "OpCit: JB" (I cannot remember the author's name, but he
apparently is well acquainted with Churchill and is the inspirational
character for the James Bond movies his friend and personal handler
created); a third book dealing with Nietsche's sister Elisabeth and the
Colony she founded in South America in part by distorting Wilhelm's
philosophy, also deals with the specific possibility of doppelgangers in
cases such as Doctor Mengeles.

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