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just john

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:13:14 PM10/26/09
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Okay, usually Gibbs' cup's branding isn't on camera, but we all
recognize it's either Starbucks or meant to look like it.*

... and it's one thing that bugs me. You see, back when I was in
uniform and with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, I was
also known for my coffee habit.

But I used my own mug. It was the AFOSI version of a Mil-Art stein,
which featured the AFOSI crest on one side and a cartoon on the other.
The one I preferred was from the year when it was a cartoon spook with
sneakers, who was flipping the bird.

I used the one-quart stein as my coffee mug.

Doesn't the NCIS office have a coffee pot? The cost savings really
stack up, over time.

* Okay, there are existing brands that try to look like Starbucks, too.

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Porter Smith

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Oct 26, 2009, 10:24:33 PM10/26/09
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just john <teuy...@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:mbudnawD6
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>
> Doesn't the NCIS office have a coffee pot? The cost savings really
> stack up, over time.

Dunno about NCIS but I've worked in several offices that specifically
banned coffee makers. They usually cited safety concerns but usually there
was a contract with the guy who sold the over priced swill in the
cafeteria.

One place wouldn't even let us bring coffee (or any other beverage) into
the building, either in a cup, or a thermos. Again they claimed it was a
"safety issue." (but it was OK to carry a cup of coffee from the
cafeteria)

TBerk

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Oct 27, 2009, 5:24:22 AM10/27/09
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On Oct 26, 3:13 pm, just john <teuy13...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

> Doesn't the NCIS office have a coffee pot?  The cost savings really
> stack up, over time.
>

Well, once his coffee got wasted and the announcement that it would be
refilled/replaced from the Office Coffee Pot was met with derision and
scorn; "that aint coffee..."

It really does add up over time, most all the Silicon Valley job sites
had gotten past the extra perk of having an espresso machine robot/
widget/thingy and settled down to providing a better bean for the
conventional office coffee pot. I find I prefer Pete's.

berk

Mikey

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Oct 27, 2009, 3:36:24 PM10/27/09
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>Well, once his coffee got wasted and the announcement that it would be
>refilled/replaced from the Office Coffee Pot was met with derision and
>scorn; "that aint coffee..."

Gibb's is a coffee snob. The never really show the brand, but it does "look"
like Starbucks. However, there was one episode where he and Ziva had to stay
overnight somewhere on a case. As they were packing the car, Ziva commented
on the cup that Gibb's had in his hand and said that it wasn't coffee. He
said yes it was. She repsonded that she read the label on the little
"coffee" bag in the room and it was actually roasted chikory. He said that
what he had in his cup was coffee, because he keeps a bag of his own roast
in his go bag, and that was what he was drinking.

I seem to recall an episode where he met Kate a a coffee shop early one
morning, and he walked in with his own coffee, and made some disparraging
remark about the coffee at the Kate's coffee shop.

I suspect that what we see Gibb's drinking in the office is his own coffee
that he makes at home. You can buy the paper coffee cups with the cardboard
wrappers at many grocery stores, and I suspect he uses thoseso he doesn't
have to remember to take his cup home to wash at night.

Then again, perhaps I watch too much NCIS and am reading too much into the
whole coffee thing.

Mikey :}

TBerk

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:22:12 AM10/28/09
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On Oct 27, 11:36 am, "Mikey" <mminor...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Well, once his coffee got wasted and the announcement that it would be
> >refilled/replaced from the Office Coffee Pot was met with derision and
> >scorn; "that aint coffee..."
>
> Gibb's is a coffee snob.
<snip>

> Then again, perhaps I watch too much NCIS and am reading too much into the
> whole coffee thing.
>
> Mikey :}

At one point we're going to see Gibbs coming out of his regular Mom-n-
Pop Coffee Roaster with a fresh cuppa, and there'll be a redhead
behind the counter...

berk
I'll be he drinks Tanzanian Peaberry

tenworld

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Oct 28, 2009, 2:30:50 PM10/28/09
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I would be very disappointed if Gibbs' idea of great coffee had a
Starbucks on it. As mentioned Peet's is pretty good although I am
still evaluating their selection so I cant recommend one yet.
Unfortunately the best coffee around SoCal WAS Dietrich Vienna Melange
until some B@%#$^ from the NW bought them out and closed them down.

I dont know what great coffee would be in DC. Green Mountain coffee
is up in the NE and fortunately in selected places in SoCal. Any non-
Starbucks crazed users in DC?

Mikey

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Oct 28, 2009, 4:19:43 PM10/28/09
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>I would be very disappointed if Gibbs' idea of great coffee had a
>Starbucks on it. As mentioned Peet's is pretty good although I am
>still evaluating their selection so I cant recommend one yet.
>Unfortunately the best coffee around SoCal WAS Dietrich Vienna Melange
>until some B@%#$^ from the NW bought them out and closed them down.

>I dont know what great coffee would be in DC. Green Mountain coffee
>is up in the NE and fortunately in selected places in SoCal. Any non-
>Starbucks crazed users in DC?

I'm not a Staryucks fan either. Too expensive, and not very tasty. My
favorite cup of joe comes from the Waffle House.

Mikey :)


Jette Goldie

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Oct 28, 2009, 5:11:49 PM10/28/09
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When I was in DC, some years ago, there was an interesting little
coffee stall in the underground mall at the railway station (central
station?). I got the best coffee I ever got in the USA there - it was
a Columbian "rich roast" - nice dark and strong but mellow - but the
guy said that most of his customers found it "too strong" (he looked
delighted to find a customer who appreciated it). To me it tasted
like the Italian or French coffee I'm used to (most American coffee is
way too weak and bitter). Worst coffee was in a Subway shop in LA -
it was so weak it looked like warm water that a coffee cup might have
been washed in at some point in the past. You should NOT be able to
see the bottom of the cup through the coffee!

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Seleya

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Oct 29, 2009, 9:01:08 AM10/29/09
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On Oct 28, 2:30�pm, tenworld <t...@world.std.com> wrote:
>
> I would be very disappointed if Gibbs' idea of great coffee had a
> Starbucks on it. �As mentioned Peet's is pretty good although I am
> still evaluating their selection so I cant recommend one yet.
> Unfortunately the best coffee around SoCal WAS Dietrich Vienna Melange
> until some B@%#$^ from the NW bought them out and closed them down.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -

Gibbs drinks not-Starbucks coffee -- the label is Starbucks-ish, but
not their cup.

In one episode, Panera was very visibly given to each of the team when
Sacks and Fornell showed up bearing gifts.

-Nick

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Jette Goldie

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Oct 29, 2009, 4:12:30 PM10/29/09
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Magda wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:11:49 +0000, in alt.tv.navy-ncis, Jette Goldie
> <jgold...@btinternet.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... When I was in DC, some years ago, there was an interesting little
> ... coffee stall in the underground mall at the railway station (central
> ... station?). I got the best coffee I ever got in the USA there - it was
> ... a Columbian "rich roast" - nice dark and strong but mellow - but the
> ... guy said that most of his customers found it "too strong" (he looked
> ... delighted to find a customer who appreciated it). To me it tasted
> ... like the Italian or French coffee I'm used to (most American coffee is
> ... way too weak and bitter). Worst coffee was in a Subway shop in LA -
> ... it was so weak it looked like warm water that a coffee cup might have
> ... been washed in at some point in the past.
>
> Have you tried Cuban? I always buy a certain brand of Brazilian coffee, but once when
> there wasn't any Brazilian left I bought a Cuban arabica that was to die for. It was so
> good I went back and bought all I could find of it. Very hard to find, that one!

Haven't come across it - but I'll check out Whittards. if anyone
carries it in the UK it will be them.

here's another question - notice how all the coffee you find these
days is "arabica" bean? what happened to all the "robustica" variety
beans you used to get?

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mag3

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Oct 31, 2009, 5:21:29 PM10/31/09
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:13:14 -0400, just john <teuy...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>Okay, usually Gibbs' cup's branding isn't on camera, but we all
>recognize it's either Starbucks or meant to look like it.*

And that's the key thing..... it "looks like it." Not *exactly* it, but
"looks like it." That's all that's necessary to get the benefit of the brand
without the required financial transactions needed to actually show the
exact brand. In this case, as others may have stated, I don't think Starbucks
has paid for the advertisement. So the design gets really close, but "no cigar."

Hence, "ZNN" instead of "CNN" for the news channel (in JAG and NCIS). I've also
seen this alot in Japanese "Anime" where you see a lot of "Cony" electronics.

>Doesn't the NCIS office have a coffee pot? The cost savings really
>stack up, over time.

As others have said, Gibbs is a coffee snob. And, apparently, he got it early in
life (witness the "Heartland" episode where he gushes over his father's coffee).

____________________________________________
Regards,

Arnold

David Johnston

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Nov 2, 2009, 1:58:12 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:13:14 -0400, just john
<teuy...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>Okay, usually Gibbs' cup's branding isn't on camera, but we all
>recognize it's either Starbucks or meant to look like it.*
>
>... and it's one thing that bugs me. You see, back when I was in
>uniform and with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, I was
>also known for my coffee habit.
>
>But I used my own mug. It was the AFOSI version of a Mil-Art stein,
>which featured the AFOSI crest on one side and a cartoon on the other.
>The one I preferred was from the year when it was a cartoon spook with
>sneakers, who was flipping the bird.
>
>I used the one-quart stein as my coffee mug.
>
>Doesn't the NCIS office have a coffee pot? The cost savings really
>stack up, over time.

The NCIS staff are a collection of quirks. Gibb's preference for
coffee shop coffee is one of his.

Jerry Heyman

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Nov 3, 2009, 1:27:14 PM11/3/09
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David Johnston wrote:

I've always assumed that Gibbs grew to love the coffee that
jar heads drink. My reason(s) had to do with his opinion of other
coffee shop coffee (drunk by Jenny) and her opinion of his choice
of drink. As for the cup, as mentioned previously, anyone can buy
cups and put their own into it.

jerry
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TBerk

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:19:22 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 3, 10:27 am, Jerry Heyman <heym...@acm.org> wrote:
> David Johnston wrote:

> > The NCIS staff are a collection of quirks.  Gibb's preference for
> > coffee shop coffee is one of his.

I don't think Gibbs actually drinks _Coffee_Shop_ coffee.

>
> I've always assumed that Gibbs grew to love the coffee that
> jar heads drink.  My reason(s) had to do with his opinion of other
> coffee shop coffee (drunk by Jenny) and her opinion of his choice
> of drink.  As for the cup, as mentioned previously, anyone can buy
> cups and put their own into it.
>
> jerry
> --

I'd think the cups are from a local shop that is 'wink_wink'-ing the
Starbuck's logo.

I like the whole Mom-n-Pop Roaster thing. (Think Tom Clancy's Sargent
lost in 'Clear and Present Danger, who's family goes on to run a
[7/11?] & put the kids though school, with Ryan's behind the scenes
resources.)

If I keep up my fan-wank long enough I'll have built up a backstory
worthy enough to actually get in to the writer's bible (or so I think,
being all big headed like I am...)


berk


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