NCIS 3/29: Who got married? (SPOILER)
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So, who got married? Throughout the show, I thought it was the woman
that both Gibbs and Tobias had been married to, then in the final
scene there is this exchange:
Tobias: I just gave away the bride.
Gibbs: You have a lovely daughter.
Tobias' *daughter* got married? A child of Tobias and the woman he
shared with Gibbs? How did he giver her away? He didn't attend the
ceremony.
just john
They were skipping a rehearsal dinner, so that wedding was yet to happen.
So that implies the daughter's wedding was a different one.
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Mikey
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I think Tobias meant that by her getting married, he was giving his ex away
( and thus no longer having to pay alimony, as mentioned earlier. Gibbs was
just comenting that Tobias got a beautiful daughter out of the failed
marriage.
Kurt Ullman
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> So, who got married? Throughout the show, I thought it was the woman
> that both Gibbs and Tobias had been married to, then in the final
> scene there is this exchange:
> Tobias: I just gave away the bride.
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T man was the last one married to her (as noted by the alimony comment
earlier in the show). He was sorta getting soulful about it.
> Gibbs: You have a lovely daughter.
This was more of an attempt to cheer him up. Yeah he did marry the
Harpy but he did a get nice daughter out of the deal.
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Larc
I always enjoy interaction between Gibbs and Fornell. It's evident Gibbs really
likes him.
Larc
KStahl
What always gets me, though, is that I remember NYPD Blue where Spano
played a cop who was the father to the Ricky Schroeder character and who
offed himself as the result of depression. It is almost as if he is an
undead. But I guess whey they find good actors they like to reuse them.
sctvguy1
> What always gets me, though, is that I remember NYPD Blue where Spano
> played a cop who was the father to the Ricky Schroeder character and who
> offed himself as the result of depression. It is almost as if he is an
> undead. But I guess whey they find good actors they like to reuse them.
What about his role in "Hill Street Blues"? He is a good actor who plays
LEOs particularly well.
KStahl
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:07:17 -0400, KStahl wrote:n
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>>What always gets me, though, is that I remember NYPD Blue where Spano
>>played a cop who was the father to the Ricky Schroeder character and who
>>offed himself as the result of depression. It is almost as if he is an
>>undead. But I guess whey they find good actors they like to reuse them.
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> What about his role in "Hill Street Blues"? He is a good actor who plays
> LEOs particularly well.
I never watched that show. I don't remember why. I think for several
years that it was on I was outside the U.S. I heard it was good though.
Not only has Spano been in many TV roles, He has appeared in numerous
movies over the years - although many of them were TV movie. When I
looked at IMDb I realize they could have saved themselves by listing the
TV shows that he hasn't appeared on over the years. The list just goes
on and on.
He was even in the movie American Grafetti.
mag3
>> What about his role in "Hill Street Blues"? He is a good actor who plays
>> LEOs particularly well.
>
>I never watched that show. I don't remember why. I think for several
>years that it was on I was outside the U.S. I heard it was good though.
Oh, it was a staple of the 1980's, launching the careers of several big time
super stars today... Bruce Weitz, Dennis Franz (who got a spin off show and
who played two different characters on the show), etc. etc. etc. I believe it
was one of the pioneer "ensemble" shows that paved the way for ER, CSI,
NCIS, etc. etc. It was, for example, where I first saw a very young Forest Whitaker
play a gang-banger condemned to the "chair." Joyce Davenport (Veronica Hamel)
was his PD. One of the few shows back then actually to show the execution.
I wish they'd finish releasing the DVD's... Only the 1st 2 of 7 seasons are out.
>Not only has Spano been in many TV roles, He has appeared in numerous
>movies over the years - although many of them were TV movie. When I
>looked at IMDb I realize they could have saved themselves by listing the
>TV shows that he hasn't appeared on over the years. The list just goes
>on and on.
And from what I understand, it doesn't include everything, as he is a strong
theater actor as well. Don B once said they would use him more as Fornell
if they could get him away from the theater.
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Regards,
Arnold
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"Mikey" <mmin...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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It was badly written and came out confusing. What Gibbs probably should have
said was, "Although you do have a lovely daughter." It's still a little
confusing but a little better than the original line.
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Kurt Ullman
mag3 <zmpmag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Oh, it was a staple of the 1980's, launching the careers of several big time
> super stars today... Bruce Weitz, Dennis Franz (who got a spin off show and
> who played two different characters on the show), etc. etc. etc. I believe it
> was one of the pioneer "ensemble" shows that paved the way for ER, CSI,
> NCIS, etc. etc. It was, for example, where I first saw a very young Forest
> Whitaker
> play a gang-banger condemned to the "chair." Joyce Davenport (Veronica Hamel)
> was his PD. One of the few shows back then actually to show the execution.
And an incredibly young David Caruso. James Sikking who, among other
things, went on to be Doogie's Daddy. Peter Jurasik (who went from
stoolie on HSB to Centauri Ambassador on Babylon 5. Also started the
career of Steven Bochco (I, for one, have since forgiven for Cop
Rock-grin).
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> I wish they'd finish releasing the DVD's... Only the 1st 2 of 7 seasons are
> out.
>
They have 140 episodes for streaming on IMDB.com
mag3
>> Oh, it was a staple of the 1980's, launching the careers of several big time
>> super stars today... Bruce Weitz, Dennis Franz (who got a spin off show and
>> who played two different characters on the show), etc. etc. etc. I believe it
>> was one of the pioneer "ensemble" shows that paved the way for ER, CSI,
>> NCIS, etc. etc. It was, for example, where I first saw a very young Forest
>> Whitaker play a gang-banger condemned to the "chair." Joyce Davenport (Veronica Hamel)
>> was his PD. One of the few shows back then actually to show the execution.
>
> And an incredibly young David Caruso.
To me, David Caruso will always be the officer candidate that washed out
and "DOR'ed" first in "An Officer & a Gentleman..." The one who GySgt.
Folley kicked ass in Martial arts... "Well, lesse if I can clarify it fo ya..." <SPLAT>
>James Sikking who, among other
>things, went on to be Doogie's Daddy. Peter Jurasik (who went from
>stoolie on HSB
Before that, he was one of the few carryovers on "Beverly Hills Buntz.." ;-))))
> Also started the
>career of Steven Bochco (I, for one, have since forgiven for Cop
>Rock-grin).
Oh, I loved Cop-Rock... I LOL'ed when the judge was singing, "He's GUILTY!!!"
And the other time (as a tribute to Michael Conrad) when one of the senior
officers sang a song to the effect of "Let's be careful out there..."
____________________________________________
Regards,
Arnold
just john
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 08:46:44 -0400, Kurt Ullman<kurtu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> Oh, it was a staple of the 1980's, launching the careers of several big time
>>> super stars today... Bruce Weitz, Dennis Franz (who got a spin off show and
>>> who played two different characters on the show), etc. etc. etc. I believe it
>>> was one of the pioneer "ensemble" shows that paved the way for ER, CSI,
>>> NCIS, etc. etc. It was, for example, where I first saw a very young Forest
>>> Whitaker play a gang-banger condemned to the "chair." Joyce Davenport (Veronica Hamel)
>>> was his PD. One of the few shows back then actually to show the execution.
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>> And an incredibly young David Caruso.
>
> To me, David Caruso will always be the officer candidate that washed out
> and "DOR'ed" first in "An Officer& a Gentleman..."
For me, I always think of him in "CSI: Miami" seeming to be playing Jack
Lord from the original "Hawaii 5-0."
And while we're digressing, and since I just had an AH-HAH! moment where
I finally recognized him ... Remember how I mentioned Dennis Haysbert
being in "Now and Again"? Well, the new CBS show "Chaos" that starts
tonight has Eric Close, who was the other star of that show. (In that
show it may have helped that he was playing a guy whose body was
inhabited by the brain of John Goodman.)
sctvguy1
just john <teuy...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > To me, David Caruso will always be the officer candidate that
> > washed out and "DOR'ed" first in "An Officer& a Gentleman..."
To me, he will always be Det. John Kelley from NYPD Blue. Too bad he
got the "big head" and left the show after only one season.
tenworld
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divorced the same shrew has been ongoing for several years. I think
spending 2 minutes explaining it would have been bad writing, And as
Tony noted, all Gibbs' exes (wives and girlfriends) have been red
heads.
Jette Goldie
> sctvguy1 wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:07:17 -0400, KStahl wrote:n
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>>> What always gets me, though, is that I remember NYPD Blue where Spano
>>> played a cop who was the father to the Ricky Schroeder character and who
>>> offed himself as the result of depression. It is almost as if he is an
>>> undead. But I guess whey they find good actors they like to reuse them.
>>
>>
>> What about his role in "Hill Street Blues"? He is a good actor who plays
>> LEOs particularly well.
>
> I never watched that show. I don't remember why. I think for several
> years that it was on I was outside the U.S. I heard it was good though.
>
it did play for many years outside the US too.
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Larc
| On 4/1/11 9:37 AM, mag3 wrote:
| > On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 08:46:44 -0400, Kurt Ullman<kurtu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| >
| >>> Oh, it was a staple of the 1980's, launching the careers of several big time
| >>> super stars today... Bruce Weitz, Dennis Franz (who got a spin off show and
| >>> who played two different characters on the show), etc. etc. etc. I believe it
| >>> was one of the pioneer "ensemble" shows that paved the way for ER, CSI,
| >>> NCIS, etc. etc. It was, for example, where I first saw a very young Forest
| >>> Whitaker play a gang-banger condemned to the "chair." Joyce Davenport (Veronica Hamel)
| >>> was his PD. One of the few shows back then actually to show the execution.
| >>
| >> And an incredibly young David Caruso.
| >
| > To me, David Caruso will always be the officer candidate that washed out
| > and "DOR'ed" first in "An Officer& a Gentleman..."
|
| For me, I always think of him in "CSI: Miami" seeming to be playing Jack
| Lord from the original "Hawaii 5-0."
I always think of David Caruso as the obnoxious reason I don't enjoy watching
CSI: Miami.
Larc
Jette Goldie
he's the least enjoyable part of the show, that's for sure.
just john
Ah, for the old days, as noted in what I think was the very first
episode of "South Park": "Ike! Do your impression of David Caruso's
career!"
tenworld
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> I always think of David Caruso as the obnoxious reason I don't enjoy watching
> CSI: Miami.
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i always remember him as the winpy deputy in Rambo First Blood
he was better in NYPDBlue, but thats because Sipowicz was so good
Dillon Pyron
Is there any chance that she was Gibb's daughter? From my
understanding of the time line, he'd probably have had a daughter old
enough to be getting married. "You have a lovely daughter" might mean
step-daughter.
We don't know how long between the "end" of the show and the "after
show" in the basement. Hours? The next day?
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mag3
None, AFAIC. Kelly was Gibbs' only child. To spring another "hidden" child on us at
this point would involve a major "suspension of disbelief" I think.
What I think Gibbs meant by "You have a lovely daughter" is that although
Fornell's marriage to their "common x-wife" was just as horrific for Fornell
as it was for Gibbs, at least it resulted in a "lovely daughter," whom we met
in the season 4 episode, "Escaped" where Hal Holbrook was the culprit. Recall
the scene in the girl's bedroom where Gibbs was staying temporarily. The girl
even left her "Raspberry Rumtart" doll for Gibbs to play with.
____________________________________________
Regards,
Arnold
Dillon Pyron
Okay. And HELL YEAH.
>
>What I think Gibbs meant by "You have a lovely daughter" is that although
>Fornell's marriage to their "common x-wife" was just as horrific for Fornell
>as it was for Gibbs, at least it resulted in a "lovely daughter," whom we met
>in the season 4 episode, "Escaped" where Hal Holbrook was the culprit. Recall
>the scene in the girl's bedroom where Gibbs was staying temporarily. The girl
>even left her "Raspberry Rumtart" doll for Gibbs to play with.
I can go with that.
>____________________________________________
>Regards,
>
>Arnold
mag3
>Thus spake mag3 <zmpmag...@yahoo.com> :
>>None, AFAIC. Kelly was Gibbs' only child. To spring another "hidden" child on us at
>>this point would involve a major "suspension of disbelief" I think.
>
>Okay. And HELL YEAH.
>
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>>What I think Gibbs meant by "You have a lovely daughter" is that although
>>Fornell's marriage to their "common x-wife" was just as horrific for Fornell
>>as it was for Gibbs, at least it resulted in a "lovely daughter," whom we met
>>in the season 4 episode, "Escaped" where Hal Holbrook was the culprit. Recall
>>the scene in the girl's bedroom where Gibbs was staying temporarily. The girl
>>even left her "Raspberry Rumtart" doll for Gibbs to play with.
>
>I can go with that.
It's funny. The original actress who played Kelly (Mary Matilyn Mouser)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1597268/
is now one month shy of age 15, and currently working as a regular on the Dana Delaney
series, "Body of Proof." I have often wondered what it would be like for Gibbs/Harmon to interact
directly with Mouser in the present day, as opposed to being in flashbacks all the time, and
sort of "disconnected," ie. "in his memory" etc.
I'd be curious (and hereby offer a challenge to the writers) for them to come up with a plausible
character for Mary to play against Gibbs (ie. *not* a "hidden older daughter" etc.)... one that can
interact with LJG directly in the present, and make him go through all the Kelly flashbacks/trauma
etc., but allow both to demonstrate their chemistry directly together as actors... Perhaps even give
Gibbs a little relief and closure. Not his daughter, but someone he can see, plausibly, in that role.
Maybe even a "recurring" role.... something like Gibbs' "unofficially adopted" daughter... If it's
written well enough... it might work. Give him a little more fire (if he has to keep defending her
from the bad drama that brought them together) and, maybe a vehicle for the series end,
where it is she (and not any "lover") who rides off in the boat with LJG.
Finally, a family.
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Regards,
Arnold