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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor

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Dec 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/9/96
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More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.

* * *

FRIGHT NIGHT

THE CLONE MASTER

THE MUTATIONS

THE UFO INCIDENT

Z.P.G. - This is a ripe one staring Oliver Reed. Not only was this
a poor excuse for science fiction, a poor excuse for a movie,
but they perverted the entire concept of Zero Population
Growth, which was meant to stabilize the population, not
to put an end to *all* births. Sheesh.

ALIEN

STAR TREK II

THE ABYSS

INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

HELLRAISER

AGENT FOR H.A.R.M.

VIDEODROME

THE LEGACY

SHADOW ZONE

TO DIE FOR (89)

VAMPIRE AT MIDNIGHT

SUSPIRIA

DEVIL'S DAUGHTER

THE ENTITY

THE THING (no date given)

RESSURECTION

OMEN 4

FANTASTIC VOYAGE

DARKMAN

COOL WORLD - This would be a tasty treat.

BLOODSTONE: SUBSPECIES 2

BLOODLUST: SUBSPECIES 3

NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 5

--thor

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CRUELLA: WHAT KIND OF SYCOPHANT ARE YOU!

SYCOPHANT: WHAT KIND OF SYCOPHANT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BE?

--101 DALMATIANS

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Evan Talbott

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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
>
>
> More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
> from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
>
> * * *

<snippage with Tom's chainsaw>

> ALIEN
>
> STAR TREK II
>
> THE ABYSS
>
> INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
films! Are you CRAZY?????
--
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MST# 72138

I'd rather be dead than cool.-Kurt Cobain
We're all clones, but I just want to be myself.-Billy Corgan
(paraphrased)
I'm Chirpy the mutant hellbeast, and I don't like this film! Get
away!-Crow T. Robot
You can't fight in here, this is a war room!-"Dr. Strangelove"
Celebrate the independence of your nation by blowing up a small part of
it.-The Simpsons

SCREW the 4 line limit!

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David Anderson

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Dec 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/10/96
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Fairly reliable sources inform me that Evan Talbott wrote:

>Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
>>
>>More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
>>from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
>> * * *

>>ALIEN
>>STAR TREK II
>>THE ABYSS
>>INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
>
>These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
>films! Are you CRAZY?????

No, he's not. Relax. While we do not know the mechanics of exactly what
films will be made available to the Brains for MSTing in Season 8, we DO
know that they will come from the Sci-Fi Channel's existing library.
Each month, thor posts a list of the movies scheduled to run on Sci-Fi,
so that we might form at least a partial picture of just what's in the
Sci-Fi film vaults and MAY show up on MST3K. thor makes no judgements as
to the quality of the films...he's merely reporting what Sci-Fi has to
offer.

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Stephen Cooke

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Evan Talbott (ev...@erols.com) wrote:

: These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
: films! Are you CRAZY?????

The Abyss is a fine movie (but only in its full-length director's cut
version, IMHO), but you've gotta admit there's plenty of MSTable material
to work with. You can insert "We've gotta get a bigger boat" just about
anywhere, not to mention endless refrains of "Hey, it's the Undersea
Kingdom, for you and for me, and it's fiiiiiiiine!")

--
Stephen Cooke
Halifax, NS
am...@ccn.cs.dal.ca
"Sometimes I go off into my own little world...
But that's okay; they know me there."-AJ

What this country needs is plenty of...

/\/\ /-\ \ / | |~~~
/ \ | | X | |__
/ \\-/ / \ | |___


Brian Dunkle

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In article <32ACC2...@erols.com>, Evan Talbott <ev...@erols.com> wrote:
>Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
>>
>>
>> More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
>> from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
>>
>> * * *
>
><snippage with Tom's chainsaw>
>
>> ALIEN
>>
>> STAR TREK II
>>
>> THE ABYSS
>>
>> INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
>
>These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
>films! Are you CRAZY?????

Whoops, thor, looks like you forgot to put in the disclaimer
again.
It said (as far as I remember): these are just some movies scifi
is showing this month, I don't make any claim as to their quality,
MSTability, etc.

Every single time he's posted such a list (including times when
the disclaimer *was* there), someone's gone off on him. :)

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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor

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lan...@cybercom.net (David Anderson) writes:

>Fairly reliable sources inform me that Evan Talbott wrote:
>>Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:

>>>More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
>>>from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
>>> * * *
>>>ALIEN
>>>STAR TREK II
>>>THE ABYSS
>>>INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

>>These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
>>films! Are you CRAZY?????

>No, he's not. Relax. While we do not know the mechanics of exactly what
>films will be made available to the Brains for MSTing in Season 8, we DO
>know that they will come from the Sci-Fi Channel's existing library.
>Each month, thor posts a list of the movies scheduled to run on Sci-Fi,
>so that we might form at least a partial picture of just what's in the
>Sci-Fi film vaults and MAY show up on MST3K.


Thank for clearing that up, David. Time to start putting the disclaimer
back in. <G>



>thor makes no judgements as
>to the quality of the films...he's merely reporting what Sci-Fi has to
>offer.


Occasionally, I will insert comments of my own. Last month I dissed
Borman's ZARDOZ and Altman's QUINTET, but stood up for Truffaut's
FAHRENHEIT 451.

As for THE ABYSS, Evan, I am not as enamored with it as some are, mostly
because of the weak ending. But, I have yet to see the director's cut,
so that may change.

--thor

Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor

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bdu...@biocom.arizona.edu (Brian Dunkle) writes:

>In article <32ACC2...@erols.com>, Evan Talbott <ev...@erols.com> wrote:
>>Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:

>>> More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
>>> from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
>>> * * *
>><snippage with Tom's chainsaw>
>>> ALIEN
>>> STAR TREK II
>>> THE ABYSS
>>> INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

>>These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
>>films! Are you CRAZY?????
> Whoops, thor, looks like you forgot to put in the disclaimer
>again.
> It said (as far as I remember): these are just some movies scifi
>is showing this month, I don't make any claim as to their quality,
>MSTability, etc.
>
> Every single time he's posted such a list (including times when
>the disclaimer *was* there), someone's gone off on him. :)


Oh, well, Brian, it's only Evan.

--thor (And you know how *excitable* the boy is. <wink, wink>)

Evan Talbott

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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
>
> bdu...@biocom.arizona.edu (Brian Dunkle) writes:
> >In article <32ACC2...@erols.com>, Evan Talbott <ev...@erols.com> wrote:
> >>Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
>
> >>> More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
> >>> from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
> >>> * * *
> >><snippage with Tom's chainsaw>
> >>> ALIEN
> >>> STAR TREK II
> >>> THE ABYSS
> >>> INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
>
> >>These are all great movies! The Abyss is one of my all-time favorite
> >>films! Are you CRAZY?????
> > Whoops, thor, looks like you forgot to put in the disclaimer
> >again.
> > It said (as far as I remember): these are just some movies scifi
> >is showing this month, I don't make any claim as to their quality,
> >MSTability, etc.
> >
> > Every single time he's posted such a list (including times when
> >the disclaimer *was* there), someone's gone off on him. :)
>
>
> Oh, well, Brian, it's only Evan.
>
> --thor (And you know how *excitable* the boy is. <wink, wink>)
>
> <sugh> Read "Can't We All Just Get Along"

Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor

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Douglas Barkes <DBa...@concentric.net> writes:

>tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor) wrote:

>>As for THE ABYSS, Evan, I am not as enamored with it as some are, mostly
>>because of the weak ending. But, I have yet to see the director's cut,
>>so that may change.

>I have the director's cut on laserdisc, and the re-edited ending makes a
>whole heck of a lot more sense. It puts the last scenes in the version we
>normally see in the proper context (the messages on the waterwall, plus it
>gives Ed Harris more dialogue when talking to the NTIs.)


That's what I've heard. I hate it when a half way decent film falls
apart at the end. Like Joe Dante's EXPLORERS. *I'd* have given him
the money if I could, just to see the movie he wanted to make.

--thor

JESTER

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On 10 Dec 1996, Brian Dunkle wrote:

> In article <32ACC2...@erols.com>, Evan Talbott <ev...@erols.com> wrote:
> >Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> More potential bot fodder from the SFC film library. This list is
> >> from the SciFi/Dominion website schedule for January.
> >>
> >> * * *
> >
> ><snippage with Tom's chainsaw>
> >
> >> ALIEN

naw, too good...maybe alien 3... {Mike: "Sinaed O'Conner in...."Nothing
Compares to DEATH!")

> >>
> >> STAR TREK II

oh god, no! star trek 5, yes! {Crow: "Shanter's style reminds me of early
David Worth."
Tom: "Or Bert I Gordon."
Mike: "Or Alan Smithee."}

> >>
> >> THE ABYSS

ripe for a misting, deserves to be the first "blockbuster" misted. {Tom:
"So, they can breath underwater through the miricle of pepto bismal?"}

> >>
> >> INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

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Douglas Barkes

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tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor) wrote:

<snip>

>As for THE ABYSS, Evan, I am not as enamored with it as some are, mostly
>because of the weak ending. But, I have yet to see the director's cut,
>so that may change.

I have the director's cut on laserdisc, and the re-edited ending makes a
whole heck of a lot more sense. It puts the last scenes in the version we
normally see in the proper context (the messages on the waterwall, plus it
gives Ed Harris more dialogue when talking to the NTIs.)

Doug
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------------------------------------------------------------

Douglas Barkes

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tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor) wrote:
>Douglas Barkes <DBa...@concentric.net> writes:
>>tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor) wrote:
>
>>>As for THE ABYSS, Evan, I am not as enamored with it as some are, mostly
>>>because of the weak ending. But, I have yet to see the director's cut,
>>>so that may change.
>
>>I have the director's cut on laserdisc, and the re-edited ending makes a
>>whole heck of a lot more sense. It puts the last scenes in the version we
>>normally see in the proper context (the messages on the waterwall, plus it
>>gives Ed Harris more dialogue when talking to the NTIs.)
>
>
>That's what I've heard. I hate it when a half way decent film falls
>apart at the end. Like Joe Dante's EXPLORERS. *I'd* have given him
>the money if I could, just to see the movie he wanted to make.

Oh GOD I love Explorers, shitty ending and all. They cut a whole bunch of
stuff out of that film, too (I read the book AND the movie magazine, just
to show you how much I was in rapture with this film).

They've been showing it on Cinemax (I think it's Cinemax) lately, and
everytime I happen to flip through the channels and come upon it, I watch
it from there on in. Every teenage-science-fiction-fan's dream come true.

BTW, are you saying that someone else told him to do that ending, or are
you just hoping that's what would have happened? :)

Doug (a BIG Explorers fan, who often dreamed when he was younger of having
his own Thunder Road to fly around in)

Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor

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Douglas Barkes <DBa...@concentric.net> writes:
>tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor) wrote:

>>That's what I've heard. I hate it when a half way decent film falls
>>apart at the end. Like Joe Dante's EXPLORERS. *I'd* have given him
>>the money if I could, just to see the movie he wanted to make.

>Oh GOD I love Explorers, shitty ending and all. They cut a whole bunch of
>stuff out of that film, too (I read the book AND the movie magazine, just
>to show you how much I was in rapture with this film).
>They've been showing it on Cinemax (I think it's Cinemax) lately, and
>everytime I happen to flip through the channels and come upon it, I watch
>it from there on in. Every teenage-science-fiction-fan's dream come true.
>BTW, are you saying that someone else told him to do that ending, or are
>you just hoping that's what would have happened? :)
>Doug (a BIG Explorers fan, who often dreamed when he was younger of having
>his own Thunder Road to fly around in)


Years ago I belonged to something called the Acadamy of Science Fiction,
Fantasy and Horror Films here in L.A. We would get to see advance screen-
ings of genre flicks in a theater on the USC campus and a few other
theaters in the area. One screening at USC was EXPLORERS. After the
film, Joe Dante and one of the kids (either Ethan Hawke or River Phoenix,
I don't remember) had a Q&A session with the audience. I don't remember
the whole story, but apparently he went over budget and Paramount
refused to give him more money to finish the movie. They also didn't
bother promoting it when it was released. Too bad.

--thor

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed, I would say, was a pioneer, from scratch type of director-producer-
writer. I mean, he had to do it all. He taught a lot of people, and I'm
grateful for that. If they knew how he would make his own crosses for
the graveyard, and hammer nails, scrap wood . . . they're laughing at
it, but that's a real producer, not a guy sitting on his ass. That's a
guy that did it, man, did it all.

--Anthony Cardoza on Ed Wood, Jr.
From Nightmare of Ecstasy by Rudolph Grey

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Douglas Barkes

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That's a shame. I remember reading an interview with him somewhere where
he said that the majority of the people who approached him about his films
told him that Explorers was their favorite of his films, and that it was
the film closest to his heart that he had ever made. Oh well.

Doug

David Anderson

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Fairly reliable sources inform me that Douglas Barkes wrote:

>Doug (a BIG Explorers fan, who often dreamed when he was younger of having
>his own Thunder Road to fly around in)

Not to mention having Amanda Peterson to come home to...

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