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When Did MST3K Peak?

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TMC

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Jul 8, 2012, 2:43:41 AM7/8/12
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I've been watching MST3K a bit lately. Watched The Final Sacrifice
(One of my favorites. Rowsdower!) and Gamera (KTMA-TV ) yesterday.
However, I think the best doesn't come from either of those periods in
the show. I think season 5 has to be my favorite. You have Eegah,
Mitchell (probably my favorite episode), The Brain That Wouldn't Die,
The Wild World of Bat Woman, etc.

On the other end of the spectrum the worst of MST3K is the KTMA-TV
stuff and a lot of season 1. Also, they got a little too ambitious
with season 6 in that they showed movies that even they had a hard
time making funny. The Skydivers seems like it is about 3 hours long
in any carnation. I do love the Creeping Terror from that season
though and outside of Coleman Francis and some other stuff the season
is alright.

Professor Bubba

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Jul 8, 2012, 10:52:31 AM7/8/12
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In article
<07a8aa12-f483-4f27...@n9g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>, TMC
<tmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

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I'm not sure when it peaked, but I can tell you when it began to
plummet.

I'd been watching right along. even struggling through all those Gamera
movies and Joel's departure, and then they did Invasion U.S.A. This
was an awful 1952 Cold War "red nightmare" film that I'd seen as a kid
and wanted to see again, especially with Satellite of Love commentary.

Well, they completely fucked it up. For instance, right at the
beginning, the film features an appearance by Edward G. Robinson Jr. as
a spy at a tractor factory. The guys made absolutely no mention of
this. The film also boasts short appearances by Noel Neill and Phyllis
Coates, the two Lois Lanes of the George Reeves Superman series. The
guys did notice this, but they misidentified Coates as one of the
ticket sellers at the airport (along with Neill) when she actually
played the wife of the rancher. I thought, how do you do a show like
this and not recognize Phyllis Coates? She even screamed once, for
God's sake.

There were also some odd edits made to the film. The atomic bombing of
New York was clipped to eliminate the explosion, and the attack on the
U.S. Senate was deleted entirely.

MST3K had been floundering even before Invasion U.S.A., but that one
was when I stopped watching, and I didn't care at all when they finally
folded the tent five years later.

Michael OConnor

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Jul 8, 2012, 12:42:10 PM7/8/12
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I think MST3K peaked with Mitchell, which was Joel's final episode,
and the show was still good with Mike but it wasn't quite the same
after Joel left. It was kinda like Shemp replacing Curly on the Three
Stooges, it was still very good but rarely great. I do think the
first couple seasons of MST3K were weak as they were developing this
new comedic art form, and by The Sidehackers I think the show became
can't miss TV.

Arthur Lipscomb

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Jul 8, 2012, 4:57:53 PM7/8/12
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On 7/8/2012 7:52 AM, Professor Bubba wrote:
> In article
> <07a8aa12-f483-4f27...@n9g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>, TMC
> <tmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&threa
>> d=439530
>>
>> I've been watching MST3K a bit lately. Watched The Final Sacrifice
>> (One of my favorites. Rowsdower!) and Gamera (KTMA-TV ) yesterday.
>> However, I think the best doesn't come from either of those periods in
>> the show. I think season 5 has to be my favorite. You have Eegah,
>> Mitchell (probably my favorite episode), The Brain That Wouldn't Die,
>> The Wild World of Bat Woman, etc.
>>
>> On the other end of the spectrum the worst of MST3K is the KTMA-TV
>> stuff and a lot of season 1. Also, they got a little too ambitious
>> with season 6 in that they showed movies that even they had a hard
>> time making funny. The Skydivers seems like it is about 3 hours long
>> in any carnation. I do love the Creeping Terror from that season
>> though and outside of Coleman Francis and some other stuff the season
>> is alright.
>
>
> I'm not sure when it peaked, but I can tell you when it began to
> plummet.
>
> I'd been watching right along. even struggling through all those Gamera
> movies and Joel's departure,

I was already only an occasional viewer by that point but that's when I
stopped watching altogether.


and then they did Invasion U.S.A. This
> was an awful 1952 Cold War "red nightmare" film that I'd seen as a kid
> and wanted to see again, especially with Satellite of Love commentary.

I never heard of this movie before. I was only aware of the Chuck
Norris movie of the same name. The trailer looks interesting but not
interesting enough to actually rent it.


>
> Well, they completely fucked it up. For instance, right at the
> beginning, the film features an appearance by Edward G. Robinson Jr. as
> a spy at a tractor factory. The guys made absolutely no mention of
> this. The film also boasts short appearances by Noel Neill and Phyllis
> Coates, the two Lois Lanes of the George Reeves Superman series. The
> guys did notice this, but they misidentified Coates as one of the
> ticket sellers at the airport (along with Neill) when she actually
> played the wife of the rancher. I thought, how do you do a show like
> this and not recognize Phyllis Coates? She even screamed once, for
> God's sake.
>
> There were also some odd edits made to the film. The atomic bombing of
> New York was clipped to eliminate the explosion, and the attack on the
> U.S. Senate was deleted entirely.
>

I was really annoyed when they did the movie and edited it to the point
where their version of This Island Earth (which I always considered to
be one of the better 50s sci fi movies) was about 10 minutes shorter
than the real movie. I think they cheated by creating through their own
editing many of the plot holes that they then made fun of.

Ubiquitous

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Jul 8, 2012, 8:17:07 PM7/8/12
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bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid wrote:

>I'm not sure when it peaked, but I can tell you when it began to
>plummet.
>
>I'd been watching right along. even struggling through all those Gamera
>movies and Joel's departure, and then they did Invasion U.S.A. This
>was an awful 1952 Cold War "red nightmare" film that I'd seen as a kid
>and wanted to see again, especially with Satellite of Love commentary.

Was that the movie in which there was a missile silo guarded by a single
unarmed soldier?

--
It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the Democrats did
to America.

Ubiquitous

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Jul 8, 2012, 8:19:26 PM7/8/12
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tmc...@gmail.com wrote:

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I think they peaked around the time they replaced Joel with Mike.

anim8rFSK

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Jul 8, 2012, 11:17:32 PM7/8/12
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<b38a24f5-8781-4575...@x39g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>,
Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:

> I think MST3K peaked with Mitchell,

You mean "Mittens"?
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

jack

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Jul 9, 2012, 12:23:23 PM7/9/12
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On Jul 8, 11:17 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <b38a24f5-8781-4575-9d3d-44078b9f6...@x39g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>,
>  Michael OConnor <mpoconn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I think MST3K peaked with Mitchell,
>
> You mean "Mittens"?
>
>  which was Joel's final episode,
>
> > and the show was still good with Mike but it wasn't quite the same
> > after Joel left.  It was kinda like Shemp replacing Curly on the Three
> > Stooges, it was still very good but rarely great.  I do think the
> > first couple seasons of MST3K were weak as they were developing this
> > new comedic art form, and by The Sidehackers I think the show became
> > can't miss TV.
>
> --
> "Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."


A peak for me was Joel's replaying several times the ending coda to
"It Conquered the World," a surprisingly nasty little piece of noir
despite its silly monster.
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