Bot Fodder from the SciFi Film Vaults
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
Another list of potential bot fodder from the Sci-Fi Movie Library.
Copied from the SciFi/Dominion ScheduleBot for April.
Warning: "The mole is an animal that digs tunnels under the ground
searching for the sun. Sometimes his journeys bring him
to the surface. When he sees the sun, he is blinded."
Disclaimer: No moles were blinded in the making of this post.
--thor
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WIZARDS OF THE LOST KINGDOM
THE DARK HALF
THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN'T DIE - This is the un-MiSTed version if anyone cares.
THE SENDER
THE SKULL
MAROONED - This is the uncut un-MiSTed version of MST episode #401 THE SPACE
TRAVELERS. Again, just FYI.
TRAPPED IN SPACE
SILENT RUNNING - A guy and his robot pals lost in space. What a concept!
DR. MORDRID - This is a Dr. Strange rip-off, which sadly, deserves to
flayed alive. Jeffrey Combs did the best he could with
what was there but . . .
FRIGHT NIGHT
ARMY OF DARKNESS - "See this! This is my . . . BOOMSTICK!" Still waiting
and waiting for my &*?#@! Special Edition of EVIL DEAD 2
from SunCoast.
THE GOLEM (No date or version given)
HEAVEN CAN WAIT
QUEST OF THE DELTA KNIGHTS - This is the one that was announced as an
upcoming MST episode, then SCIFI yanked it
back so they could use it in their Easter
sunday movie marathon. Don't know what it's
status is right now as far as making it
back as an ep on the show.
COCOON: THE RETURN
PHASE IV - This was one of the original KTMA episodes (Season Zero) on the
embryonic MST3K. There it is guys. Just sittin' there. Come on,
you know you want to do it. RE-MAKE! RE-MAKE! RE-MAKE!
LORD OF ILLUSIONS
THE LAST MAN ON EARTH - God I love this movie. Vincent Price in an excellent
version of Richard Matheson's classic I AM LEGEND
(remade extremely poorly as THE OMEGA MAN.) If you
want to see where Romero got his inspiration for
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, check this one out.
Better yet, go find Matheson's book and read it.
SHOCKER
TO THE ENDS OF TIME
TALES OF TERROR
CANDYMAN 2: FAREWELL TO THE FLESH
LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM
PUMPKINHEAD
THE MONSTER AND THE GIRL
CRASH AND BURN
ALIEN NATION
ALIEN NATION: DARK HORIZON
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--thor
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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery) writes:
>Jamie Plummer (jcp9j!@virginia.edu) wrote:
>: Derek Janssen <dja...@ultranet.com> wrote:
>: >> PUMPKINHEAD
>: >The only horror film, IIRC, credited to being "based on a poem"--
>: >Why do I think they deviated from the original somewhat?...
>: Didn't Corman do a movie of "The Raven?"
> Yep. And while I'll stop before I say it was good, it was
>entertaining (and you get Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre
>all in the same film. Who cares if it's Corman?).
Well, I'll say it. I'm not proud. I love THE RAVEN, especially the
Battle of the Sorcerers between Karloff and Price. Yeah, it's a typical
Corman quicky (he was probably shooting THE HAUNTED PALACE on the same
sets the next week) but talent like this can make even Corman look good.
Karloff and Price were way too professional to just walk through a movie,
even if it was shit. Personally, I'd watch these guys read the phone book.
--thor (Of course, I'd rather get high with Kate Bush and read the phone
book -- but that's a whole different weird thread.)
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
>A new month, more bot fodder. Woo-hoo! "tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe
>a.k.a. thor)"
>>Another list of potential bot fodder from the Sci-Fi Movie Library.
>>Copied from the SciFi/Dominion ScheduleBot for April.
Yeah, Cath, see they list their schedule a month ahead, so I'm already
doing April, see cause last month's bot fodder post is really what they're
showing *this* month and so on. Why, it's so easy a six year old child
could understand it. Now somebody run out and get me a six year old child . . .
>>THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN'T DIE - This is the un-MiSTed
>>version if anyone cares.
Steady girl. The medics are on the way. This is one of the many movies
that totally warped my childhood. I heard there's an un-cut version that's
even more bloody at the end than what they showed on MST, but I haven't
seen it.
>>PHASE IV - This was one of the original KTMA episodes (Season
>>Zero) on the embryonic MST3K. There it is guys. Just sittin' there.
>>Come on, you know you want to do it. RE-MAKE! RE-MAKE!
>>RE-MAKE!
I'm waiting for HUMANOID WOMAN (another KTMA'er) to show up and get re-made,
also.
>>SHOCKER
>The guy who plays Skinner (ARGH! I can't remmeber his name!) as a psycho
>killer...
Ted Raimi a.k.a. Joxer the Mighty. With Gabby as his sidekick, fighting
with her little stick . . . oh, sorry.
>>LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM
><gag>
That Ken Russell, what a wacky guy, eh?
--thor
Kevin Mowery
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor (tho...@csulb.edu) wrote:
: kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery) writes:
: >Jamie Plummer (jcp9j!@virginia.edu) wrote:
: >: Derek Janssen <dja...@ultranet.com> wrote:
:
: >: >> PUMPKINHEAD
: >: >The only horror film, IIRC, credited to being "based on a poem"--
: >: >Why do I think they deviated from the original somewhat?...
:
: >: Didn't Corman do a movie of "The Raven?"
:
: > Yep. And while I'll stop before I say it was good, it was
: >entertaining (and you get Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre
: >all in the same film. Who cares if it's Corman?).
:
:
: Well, I'll say it. I'm not proud. I love THE RAVEN, especially the
: Battle of the Sorcerers between Karloff and Price. Yeah, it's a typical
: Corman quicky (he was probably shooting THE HAUNTED PALACE on the same
: sets the next week) but talent like this can make even Corman look good.
: Karloff and Price were way too professional to just walk through a movie,
: even if it was shit. Personally, I'd watch these guys read the phone book.
Actually, I think it was either "The Raven" or "The Terror" that
was filmed as the sets were being torn down from the other one. Corman's
cost-efficient if nothing else.
--
Kevin "Professor Bobo" Mowery_________________________www.io.com/~profbobo
"The small one is too small, the large one too large, and the other just
right . . . but I can't reach it." --Russian proverb
**See _The Seven Stars_ MSTing at www.io.com/~profbobo**
Phil Russell
Kevin Mowery wrote:
>
> Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor (tho...@csulb.edu) wrote:
> : kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery) writes:
As we enter the discussion today, we hear "Didn't Corman film _The
Raven_?"
> : > Yep. And while I'll stop before I say it was good, it was
> : >entertaining (and you get Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre
> : >all in the same film. Who cares if it's Corman?).
> :
> :
> : Well, I'll say it. I'm not proud. I love THE RAVEN, especially the
> : Battle of the Sorcerers between Karloff and Price. Yeah, it's a typical
> : Corman quicky (he was probably shooting THE HAUNTED PALACE on the same
> : sets the next week) but talent like this can make even Corman look good.
> : Karloff and Price were way too professional to just walk through a movie,
> : even if it was shit. Personally, I'd watch these guys read the phone book.
>
> Actually, I think it was either "The Raven" or "The Terror" that
> was filmed as the sets were being torn down from the other one. Corman's
> cost-efficient if nothing else.
It was _The Terror_ that was filmed in three days on the same set, after
they finished _The Raven_ (Corman could film with Boris Karloff for
three more days, and he already had the set, so he whipped up _The
Terror_. _The Haunted Palace_ was, IIRC, based on a story by
H.P.Lovecraft. However, since it starred Vincent Price, Corman sorta
changed it a little bit to look like one of his Poe films.
Hey, that Roger Corman research paper did some good after all! I think
I'll post it for all of ratmm to see!
Tomorrow, that is...
Phil "Roger Corman Trivia Lad!" Russell
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
Phil Russell <psr...@unt.edu> writes:
>Kevin Mowery wrote:
>> Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor (tho...@csulb.edu) wrote:
>> : kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery) writes:
>> : > Yep. And while I'll stop before I say it was good, it was
>> : >entertaining (and you get Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre
>> : >all in the same film. Who cares if it's Corman?).
>> : Well, I'll say it. I'm not proud. I love THE RAVEN, especially the
>> : Battle of the Sorcerers between Karloff and Price. Yeah, it's a typical
>> : Corman quicky (he was probably shooting THE HAUNTED PALACE on the same
>> : sets the next week) but talent like this can make even Corman look good.
>> : Karloff and Price were way too professional to just walk through a movie,
>> : even if it was shit. Personally, I'd watch these guys read the phone book.
>> Actually, I think it was either "The Raven" or "The Terror" that
>> was filmed as the sets were being torn down from the other one. Corman's
>> cost-efficient if nothing else.
>It was _The Terror_ that was filmed in three days on the same set, after
>they finished _The Raven_ (Corman could film with Boris Karloff for
>three more days, and he already had the set, so he whipped up _The
>Terror_. _The Haunted Palace_ was, IIRC, based on a story by
>H.P.Lovecraft. However, since it starred Vincent Price, Corman sorta
>changed it a little bit to look like one of his Poe films.
talented writers Corman had working on them. Richard Matheson and Charles
Beaumont!
>Hey, that Roger Corman research paper did some good after all! I think
>I'll post it for all of ratmm to see!
--thor
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Steve! Mr. Nelson wants a Number Seven!
--Ned the Nanite, The She Creature
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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
sight...@aol.com (SightLes12) writes:
>Going back to the original message:
>>THE DARK HALF
>How could you!?!? The Dark Half was and is probably the best addaptation of a
>Stephen King novel. Not to mention that George A. Romero directed it(Night of
>the Living Dead, Creepshow).
Sigh. This list is just "potential" bot fodder, mainly intended to give us
an idea of what is hanging around in the Sci-Fi movie vaults that the Brains
might get a chance to do. Being on the list only means that it is scheduled
to run and is in the vault. If I haven't put a comment next to a movie
(sucks/doesn't suck) it means I don't have an opinion, already been over
that one, have other movies I'd rather talk about, or I just don't care.
Guess you didn't see the Disclaimer? <G>
As far as THE DARK HALF is concerned -- it was interesting. Better than most
of the Stephen King crap I've seen. I'm still wating for someone to film
THE MIST . . .
>>MAROONED - This is the uncut un-MiSTed version of MST episode #401 THE SPACE
>> TRAVELERS. Again, just FYI.
>to sit
>throught that entire film AGAIN. And two, NEITHER DO I!
Again, I'm not suggesting that they re-MiST this one, but I thought some
people might be interesting in seeing the original uncut version -- the
Brains kinda slice&diced this one.
--thor
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Check out my new column concerning all things Horrific and sample
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Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
>"tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor)" said:
>>tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
>>>A new month, more bot fodder. Woo-hoo! "tho...@csulb.edu
>>>(Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor)"
>>>The guy who plays Skinner (ARGH! I can't remmeber his
>>>name!) as a psycho killer...
>>Ted Raimi a.k.a. Joxer the Mighty.
>Skinner.
Uh . . . I'm not sure anymore, Cath.
Ted Raimi was in SHOCKER and he also played the title role of a psycho killer
in the movie SKINNER.
>>With Gabby as his sidekick, fighting with her little stick . . . oh,
>>sorry.
I don't get it. What's so funny about waking up?
>>>>LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM
>>>Hmmm.. This alone almost makes me glad I don't get SFC
>>>anymore.
>>><gag>
>>That Ken Russell, what a wacky guy, eh?
>yes.
Including the title. <G>
>Catherine Johnson. "Whacky" as in "whacking off", see...?
See above.
--thor
Tammy Stephanie Davis
In article <17F0FE660S...@134.139.84.1>,
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor <tho...@csulb.edu> wrote:
:kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery) writes:
:>: Derek Janssen <dja...@ultranet.com> wrote:
:
:>: >> PUMPKINHEAD
:>: >The only horror film, IIRC, credited to being "based on a poem"--
:>: >Why do I think they deviated from the original somewhat?...
:
:>: Didn't Corman do a movie of "The Raven?"
:
:>entertaining (and you get Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre
:>all in the same film. Who cares if it's Corman?).
:
:
:Well, I'll say it. I'm not proud. I love THE RAVEN, especially the
:Battle of the Sorcerers between Karloff and Price. Yeah, it's a typical
:Corman quicky (he was probably shooting THE HAUNTED PALACE on the same
:sets the next week) but talent like this can make even Corman look good.
:Karloff and Price were way too professional to just walk through a movie,
:even if it was shit. Personally, I'd watch these guys read the phone book.
Actually The Raven is <gasp!> a pretty good spoof of horror movies. And
Price, Karloff, and Lorre are all just a delight.
---TSD(Wasn't Jack Nicholson also in it?)
Tammy Stephanie Davis
In article <17F0FEE51S...@134.139.84.1>,
:
:>A new month, more bot fodder. Woo-hoo! "tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe
:>a.k.a. thor)"
:>>Another list of potential bot fodder from the Sci-Fi Movie Library.
:>>Copied from the SciFi/Dominion ScheduleBot for April.
:
:>April?
:
:Yeah, Cath, see they list their schedule a month ahead, so I'm already
:doing April, see cause last month's bot fodder post is really what they're
:showing *this* month and so on. Why, it's so easy a six year old child
:could understand it. Now somebody run out and get me a six year old child . . .
:
:>>THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN'T DIE - This is the un-MiSTed
:>>version if anyone cares.
:>No, WAY... Oh, Lord...
:
:Steady girl. The medics are on the way. This is one of the many movies
:that totally warped my childhood. I heard there's an un-cut version that's
:even more bloody at the end than what they showed on MST, but I haven't
:seen it.
:
:>>PHASE IV - This was one of the original KTMA episodes (Season
:>>Zero) on the embryonic MST3K. There it is guys. Just sittin' there.
:>>Come on, you know you want to do it. RE-MAKE! RE-MAKE!
:>>RE-MAKE!
:>YES!!! OH, PLEEEEEEEEEASE!?!?!?!?!?!
:
:I'm waiting for HUMANOID WOMAN (another KTMA'er) to show up and get re-made,
:also.
:>>SHOCKER
:>The guy who plays Skinner (ARGH! I can't remmeber his name!) as a psycho
:>killer...
:
:with her little stick . . . oh, sorry.
:>>LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM
:>Hmmm.. This alone almost makes me glad I don't get SFC anymore.
:><gag>
:
:That Ken Russell, what a wacky guy, eh?
A few years ago or so the Bravo Channel aired a biographical
film on Ken Russell which was shot and narrated by Ken Russell.
Predictably it was disjointed, nonsensical and just plain wierd.
The man is definitely "out there."
--TSD(Loved his movie "Altered States" however....)
SightLes12
Going back to the original message:
>THE DARK HALF
How could you!?!? The Dark Half was and is probably the best addaptation of a
Stephen King novel. Not to mention that George A. Romero directed it(Night of
the Living Dead, Creepshow).
>MAROONED - This is the uncut un-MiSTed version of MST episode #401 THE SPACE
> TRAVELERS. Again, just FYI.
This is highly unlikly I htink. For one I don't believe they would want to sit
throught that entire film AGAIN. And two, NEITHER DO I!
>FRIGHT NIGHT
Well.......................OK! I love their Plannet of the Apes references.
"It isn't Death if you Refuse it...
It is if you Accept it!" -J O'Barr
Brewing Tea
:>Actually The Raven is <gasp!> a pretty good spoof of horror movies. And
:>Price, Karloff, and Lorre are all just a delight.
:>
:> ---TSD(Wasn't Jack Nicholson also in it?)
Yep. Haven't seen the movie, but according to Leonard Maltin's crappy
guide, he was in it!
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while we're on the subject of corman, I'd recommend his book, "How I made over
a hundred movies and never lost a dime". I'ts pretty entertaining.
Phil Russell
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
>
> Phil Russell <psr...@unt.edu> writes:
>
> >Hey, that Roger Corman research paper did some good after all! I think
> >I'll post it for all of ratmm to see!
>
> Oh yeah, please do, Phil, I'd love to read it.
>
> --thor
Due to Thor's overwhelming enthusiasm... (pause. Wait for the joke to
hit them...) I've decided to post my B-winning research paper on the
self-named "Best of the Cheap Acts", Roger Corman!
Roger Corman : Art on a Budget
Perhaps best remembered for his low-budget exploitation
films of the fifties and sixties, Roger Corman also helped launch
the careers of many well known directors. Ron Howard and Francis
Ford Coppola, for instance, made their directorial debuts in
Corman-produced GRAND THEFT AUTO and DEMENTIA 13, respectively.
In fact, in 1974, winners of many of the major Academy Awards
were Corman protégés. Even the winner of Best Foreign Film that
year, Fellini's AMARCORD, was distributed stateside by the
Corman-run New World Cinema.
Corman's career as a director started out making low-budget
exploitation movies, "furthest from the mythology of Hollywood
and closest to its heart," according to Mark McGee. Early on, he
made films in the B-picture genres of the fifties: westerns (like
THE OKLAHOMA WOMAN), science fiction (like NOT OF THIS EARTH),
and "rebellious teen" films (like CARNIVAL ROCK).
Several of Corman's "B" films have been lampooned on the
television program "Mystery Science Theater 3000". Many of
Corman's earlier films, such as IT CONQUERED THE WORLD, (complete
with carrot-shaped alien) do show how limited a budget Corman and
his crew worked with. Corman did the best he could with what he
had, filming in as short a time as possible, sometimes over the
course of a weekend.
One of Corman's more interesting "B" films is a horror-
comedy called A BUCKET OF BLOOD. The protagonist (who cannot be
called "hero") is a struggling young artist who wants to make it
in the art world. The film, hailed by Mark McGee as "an honest
look at the beatnik lifestyle," was actually a satire about the
art world (98).
In 1961, for the first and only time, Corman took an
outright political stand in a film he directed. THE INTRUDER,
based on the novel by Charles Beaumont, dealt with the issue of
racial segregation. However, due to the Motion Picture
Association's refusal to approve it, THE INTRUDER was the first
film Corman made that lost money. Taking a lesson from that, he
decided never to do anything outright political with his
films. (McGee 117-118)
In the sixties, when the "B" picture showed signs of dying
out, Corman turned his hand towards more ambitious projects.
American International Pictures, who had been distributing
Corman's films, wanted another pair of low-budget black-and-white
films from Corman. Instead, he proposed for a larger budget to
film, in color, HOUSE OF USHER, based on the story by Edgar Allan
Poe. Ken Hanke suggests that Corman;s decision to do a Poe film
was due to "a desire to emulate the success of the Hammer films"
(215).
The big name in this film was Vincent Price, who had been
given a third of the film's $300,000 budget. (McGee 49) Price
appeared in the rest of Corman's Poe films, with the exception of
THE PREMATURE BURIAL. Corman's series of Poe films, HOUSE OF
USHER, THE PIT AND THE PENDULUM, THE PREMATURE BURIAL, THE
RAVEN, THE MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH, and THE TOMB OF LIGEIA, were
a step in a new direction. Gary Morris calls the Poe films,
"Corman's greatest single achievement." (89) His Poe films,
particularly the final two, were viewed by many as art films,
even comparing MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH to Ingmar Bergman's THE
SEVENTH SEAL (Morris 127, Hanke 221)
During that time, Corman still worked on cheaper films.
Notorious among these was THE TERROR, filmed in under three days
using the sets and star, Boris Karloff, of THE RAVEN. In a 1966
interview for the New York Times, Corman reminisced that, after
filming on THE TERROR was complete and the sets had been struck,
Corman realized there was still a hole in the plot which he
promptly covered by adding an exposition scene using two minor
characters filmed in close-up (Canby).
In 1966, after Corman's last Poe film, he went in another
direction with THE WILD ANGELS, a film about a group of Hell's
Angels. It was not well recieved in some cities (one scene
depicted an orgy inside of a church). Corman defended his film
by saying "The people who don't believe the stuff that's in the
film should know about the stuff I had to leave out!" (Canby).
Despite this, Variety gave it a good review, saying, "Corman has
developed his topic carefully and with an eye to values which pay
off in sustained interest."
THE WILD ANGELS also helped shape the career of its star,
Peter Fonda, three years before Fonda's EASY RIDER. In fact,
Fonda's next film with Corman, 1967's LSD-inspired THE TRIP,
featured EASY RIDER collaborator Dennis Hopper and was written by
fellow collaborator, Jack Nicholson (another Corman protégé).
In 1970, Corman again directed a satire, GAS-S-S-S, but it
was heavily edited by the distributers at AIP. A similar thing
happened with a film he had made for United Artists, VON
ROCHTOFFEN AND BROWN over a matter of how the German characters
would sound. Corman filmed it with the characters speaking
perfect English, but it was only after filming was complete that
UA told him they wanted the Germans to be dubbed with German
accents (McGee 75)
After GAS-S-S-S and VON RICHTOFFEN AND BROWN, Corman stepped
down from his role as director to concentrate on being a
producer. Or, as he put it, "producer-auteur". Said Corman in a
1975 interview for the New York Times, "Everything that goes up
on the screen is mine, to some extent." (Davidson). Since then,
Corman has been a producer-auteur as well as the head of three
different film companies. In 1991, he again, if briefly, became
a director with ROGER CORMAN'S FRANKENSTEIN UNBOUND, an unusual
twist in the Frankenstein mythos.
Still, perhaps the best tributes to Corman are those he gave
himself. The self-proclaimed "Best of the Cheap Acts" sums up
his career in the title of his autobiography, How I Made a
Hundred Movies in Hollywood and Never Lost a Dime.
Works Cited
Canby, Vincent. "Roger Corman : a Good Man Gone to 'Pot'". New
York Times 18 Sept. 1966. n. pag.
Davidson, Bill. "King of Schlock." New York Times 28 Dec. 1975. n.
pag.
Hanke, Ken. _A Critical Guide to Horror Film Series_. Garland-
Publishing, Inc: New York, 1991.
McGee, Mark Thomas. _Roger Corman: The Best of the Cheap Acts_.
McFarland & Company, Inc: Jefferson, North Carolina, 1988.
Morris, Gary. _Roger Corman_. Twayne Publishers: Boston, 1985.
"The Wild Angels" (review). Variety 20 July 1966
Phil "And you thought I was making this stuff up!" Russell
The Midnight Rambler
Mind if I rip this up, Phil? (just kiddin')
Phil Russell wrote:
> Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
> >
> > Phil Russell <psr...@unt.edu> writes:
> >
> > >Hey, that Roger Corman research paper did some good after all! I think
> > >I'll post it for all of ratmm to see!
> >
> > Oh yeah, please do, Phil, I'd love to read it.
> >
> > --thor
>
> Due to Thor's overwhelming enthusiasm... (pause. Wait for the joke to
> hit them...) I've decided to post my B-winning research paper on the
> self-named "Best of the Cheap Acts", Roger Corman!
>
> Roger Corman : Art on a Budget
sometimes...
Woo-hoo! I'm glad somebody else has seen this. FWIW, Corman always thought
this was his best film, followed closely by the original "Little Shop Of
Horrors". I agree. Both of these films were shot with the same budget and time
restraints as his other "films", which really makes you wonder if he a) just
didn't care most of the time, or b) only STUMBLED over greatness.
> In 1961, for the first and only time, Corman took an
> outright political stand in a film he directed. THE INTRUDER,
> based on the novel by Charles Beaumont, dealt with the issue of
> racial segregation. However, due to the Motion Picture
> Association's refusal to approve it, THE INTRUDER was the first
> film Corman made that lost money. Taking a lesson from that, he
> decided never to do anything outright political with his
> films. (McGee 117-118)
Which is a shame. (no pun intended - The Intruder also went under the original
title of Shame.)
Another overlooked classic - and I do mean classic - is "X: The Man With The
X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
> In the sixties, when the "B" picture showed signs of dying
> out, Corman turned his hand towards more ambitious projects.
> American International Pictures, who had been distributing
> Corman's films, wanted another pair of low-budget black-and-white
> films from Corman. Instead, he proposed for a larger budget to
> film, in color, HOUSE OF USHER, based on the story by Edgar Allan
> Poe. Ken Hanke suggests that Corman;s decision to do a Poe film
> was due to "a desire to emulate the success of the Hammer films"
> (215).
> The big name in this film was Vincent Price, who had been
> given a third of the film's $300,000 budget. (McGee 49) Price
> appeared in the rest of Corman's Poe films, with the exception of
> THE PREMATURE BURIAL. Corman's series of Poe films, HOUSE OF
> USHER, THE PIT AND THE PENDULUM, THE PREMATURE BURIAL, THE
> RAVEN, THE MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH, and THE TOMB OF LIGEIA, were
> a step in a new direction. Gary Morris calls the Poe films,
> "Corman's greatest single achievement." (89) His Poe films,
> particularly the final two, were viewed by many as art films,
> even comparing MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH to Ingmar Bergman's THE
> SEVENTH SEAL (Morris 127, Hanke 221)
The Poe films ARE that good (if not on a Hammer level). Again, a real shame
that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
work from. "Undead", anyone?
> During that time, Corman still worked on cheaper films.
> Notorious among these was THE TERROR, filmed in under three days
> using the sets and star, Boris Karloff, of THE RAVEN. In a 1966
> interview for the New York Times, Corman reminisced that, after
> filming on THE TERROR was complete and the sets had been struck,
> Corman realized there was still a hole in the plot which he
> promptly covered by adding an exposition scene using two minor
> characters filmed in close-up (Canby).
Corman actually saved time during production of the Terror by filming the cast
walking down the hall, one by one, and then inserting those scenes whenever
Corman needed to show movement from one place to another. Now THAT'S cheap.
And he's actually better in that regard than as a director. Corman produced
great B-movies in the Seventies like Eat My Dust, Rock and Roll High School,
and Death Race 2000.
(snip)
> Phil "And you thought I was making this stuff up!" Russell
Not even.
Thanks, Phil!
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>> Phil Russell <psr...@unt.edu> writes:
>> >Hey, that Roger Corman research paper did some good after all! I think
>> >I'll post it for all of ratmm to see!
Groovy, Phil.
<thor pops THE WILD ANGELS soundtrack into the 8-track machine mounted on
his helmet and adjusts his goggles>
Now . . . Let's RIDE!
"Blue rode a bike that was black as the night . . ."
--thor
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
feld...@cryogen.com (Antaeus Feldspar) writes:
>Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor <tho...@csulb.edu> wrote:
>> tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
>> >>tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
>> >>>A new month, more bot fodder. Woo-hoo! "tho...@csulb.edu
>> >>>(Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor)"
>> >>>The guy who plays Skinner (ARGH! I can't remmeber his
>> >>>name!) as a psycho killer...
>> >>Ted Raimi a.k.a. Joxer the Mighty.
>> >Skinner.
>> Uh . . . I'm not sure anymore, Cath.
>> Ted Raimi was in SHOCKER and he also played the title role of a psycho
>> killer in the movie SKINNER.
>Director Skinner" of "The X-Files" -- played by Mitch Pileggi, who also
>played Horace Pinker in the movie under discussion, SHOCKER.
> Evvybody huppy now?
Well, there it is.
--thor (I hate it when my movie trivia short-circuits like that.)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check out my new column concerning all things Horrific and sample
my Future Horror poetry in the March issue of the Dark Fantasy/Horror
Antaeus Feldspar
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor <tho...@csulb.edu> wrote:
> tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
> >"tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor)" said:
> >>tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) writes:
> >>>A new month, more bot fodder. Woo-hoo! "tho...@csulb.edu
> >>>(Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor)"
>
> >>>>SHOCKER
> >>>The guy who plays Skinner (ARGH! I can't remmeber his
> >>>name!) as a psycho killer...
>
> >>Ted Raimi a.k.a. Joxer the Mighty.
>
> >Brother of Sam Raimi. But what has this got to do with the guy who plays
> >Skinner.
>
> Uh . . . I'm not sure anymore, Cath.
> Ted Raimi was in SHOCKER and he also played the title role of a psycho killer
> in the movie SKINNER.
I think the "Skinner" that was referred to was "Assistant
Director Skinner" of "The X-Files" -- played by Mitch Pileggi, who also
played Horace Pinker in the movie under discussion, SHOCKER.
[snip]
Evvybody huppy now?
-jc
Bill Livingston
Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
>Phil Russell wrote:
[snip most of very good paper on Roger Corman - nice work, Phil]
>Another overlooked classic - and I do mean classic - is "X: The Man With The
>X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
>but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
Is there any truth to the rumor I heard about the original ending to this
film? At the end of the movie, as it is shown,
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the X-Ray man's eyes (and the man himself - Ray Milland, I think) are out of
control, and after entering the evangelist's tent, he tears his own eyes out
and the screen disolves to red. I once heard that there was one more line in
the movie; a few seconds after the red-out, Ray Milland's voice screams in
horror, "OH MY GOD!!! I CAN STILL SEE!!!!"
Reportedly, it so unnerved the people who saw it, they were forced to remove
it. Is any of this true, or is it just hogwash?
Bill L.
Maybe it'll be in the Tim Burton remake (snerk)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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As long as you have your corpulent porpoises, life is worth living
Jess Nevins
Bill Livingston wrote:
>
> Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
> >Phil Russell wrote:
>
> [snip most of very good paper on Roger Corman - nice work, Phil]
>
> >X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
> >but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
>
Stephen King repeats this in _Danse Macabre_, so if it's only a rumor,
it's a long-lived and wide-spread one.
jess
The Midnight Rambler
Bill Livingston wrote:
> Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
> >Phil Russell wrote:
>
> [snip most of very good paper on Roger Corman - nice work, Phil]
>
> >Another overlooked classic - and I do mean classic - is "X: The Man With The
> >X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
> >but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
>
All true. Every word.
Joe Mason
In article <34FF5EA1...@earthlink.net>,
The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>The Poe films ARE that good (if not on a Hammer level). Again, a real shame
>that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
>think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
>work from. "Undead", anyone?
<deep breath>
You know, I LIKED Undead. Everyone who saw it with me agreed, in fact. We
all said we would watch it without the riffing, and probably vaguely enjoy
it.
Except, of course, for the Devil.
Joe
Phil Russell
Jess Nevins wrote:
>
> Bill Livingston wrote:
> >
> > Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
X : The Man With X-Ray Eyes!
SPOILER SPACE (for anyone who needs it...)
> Stephen King repeats this in _Danse Macabre_, so if it's only a rumor,
> it's a long-lived and wide-spread one.
As far as I know, the "original ending" to _X : The Man With X-Ray Eyes_
is true. (But I thought they cut it *before* the audiences saw it...)
Phil "He can see through pumpkin pies!" Russell
Bill Livingston
I thought so, too - I meant like the studio execs and/or the film board.
At least I didn't just dream I heard this. Thanks, fellows.
Bill L.
A peeping Tom Turkey with X-Ray eyes. (0.5 pt)
Julia
Bill Livingston wrote:
>
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> Bill L.
> A peeping Tom Turkey with X-Ray eyes. (0.5 pt)
>
~/o Things are going great... and they're only gettin better...
I'm doin all right, gettin good grades, future's so bright... ~/o
You know the rest.
Interestingly enough (or not), I attended a Radiation Protection
Training school in Annapolis about the time this came out and
(surprisingly enough) we adopted it as our theme song. I even bought the
Timbuk3 tape and (gasp) occasionally listen to it even to this day.
It was a pretty good one, IMO, and now I'll have to dig it out again.
Thanks, Bill!
Julia - we had a crazy teacher who wore dark glasses, too.
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Bill Livingston
Previously on "The Big Eighties", Julia wrote:
>Bill Livingston wrote:
><snip>
>> Bill L.
>> A peeping Tom Turkey with X-Ray eyes. (0.5 pt)
>>
>
>~/o Things are going great... and they're only gettin better...
> I'm doin all right, gettin good grades, future's so bright... ~/o
>
>You know the rest.
<ch-CHING> Here's your half-point - 999 fine.
>Interestingly enough (or not), I attended a Radiation Protection
>Training school in Annapolis about the time this came out and
>(surprisingly enough) we adopted it as our theme song. I even bought the
>Timbuk3 tape and (gasp) occasionally listen to it even to this day.
>
>It was a pretty good one, IMO, and now I'll have to dig it out again.
>Thanks, Bill!
Yep, jogging memories of old 80's hits, that's me job.
>Julia - we had a crazy teacher who wore dark glasses, too.
I had a job waiting at my graduation. Unfortunately, it was just K-Mart. But
now I'm doing all right, getting - oh, sorry.
Bill L.
Heavenly blessed and worldly wise
Antaeus Feldspar
Joe Mason <jcm...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> In article <34FF5EA1...@earthlink.net>,
> The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >The Poe films ARE that good (if not on a Hammer level). Again, a real shame
> >that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
> >think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
> >work from. "Undead", anyone?
>
> <deep breath>
>
> You know, I LIKED Undead. Everyone who saw it with me agreed, in fact. We
> all said we would watch it without the riffing, and probably vaguely enjoy
> it.
>
> Except, of course, for the Devil.
>
> Joe
Do you mean the Devil, or the Imp? I actually liked the Devil!
He seemed to be the only one in the movie who realized that it was camp.
-jc
has similar feelings about "The Thing That Couldn't Die" --
would watch it and probably enjoy it even sans riffs.
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
jcm...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Joe Mason) writes:
>The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
>>think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
>>work from. "Undead", anyone?
>You know, I LIKED Undead. Everyone who saw it with me agreed, in fact. We
>all said we would watch it without the riffing, and probably vaguely enjoy
>it.
Corman film that I've ever seen. <G> Including FRANKENSTEIN UNBOUND, which
I thought had some nice surrealistic touches to it. And John Hurt.
>Except, of course, for the Devil.
--thor
Kevin Mowery
: >The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
: >>The Poe films ARE that good (if not on a Hammer level). Again, a real shame
: >>that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
: >>think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
: >>work from. "Undead", anyone?
: ><deep breath>
: >You know, I LIKED Undead. Everyone who saw it with me agreed, in fact. We
: >all said we would watch it without the riffing, and probably vaguely enjoy
: >it.
:
: Ya know, I believe I can honestly say that I have *vaguely* enjoyed every
: Corman film that I've ever seen. <G> Including FRANKENSTEIN UNBOUND, which
: I thought had some nice surrealistic touches to it. And John Hurt.
Yeah, I have to come down on the "Corman films are generally
really bad, but I like 'em anyway" side. "Little Shop of Horrors" was
great, though. Heck, I even watched "Vampirella" and enjoyed it.
Paul Duca
I understand that burro with the soulful eyes that appeared in the
video went out on the radio promo tour with them. I would like to have
seen that.
Paul Duca
#56954
"Our next book is ROUGHING IT...it's a happy tale"
The Midnight Rambler
Tammy Stephanie Davis wrote:
> In article <350049E1...@earthlink.net>,
> The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> :
> :
> :Bill Livingston wrote:
> :
> :> Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
> :> >Phil Russell wrote:
> :>
> :> [snip most of very good paper on Roger Corman - nice work, Phil]
> :>
> :> >Another overlooked classic - and I do mean classic - is "X: The Man With The
> :> >X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
> :> >but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
> :>
> :> Is there any truth to the rumor I heard about the original ending to this
> :> film? At the end of the movie, as it is shown,
> :>
> :> SPOILER SPACE (for anyone who needs it)
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> :> the X-Ray man's eyes (and the man himself - Ray Milland, I think) are out of
> :> control, and after entering the evangelist's tent, he tears his own eyes out
> :> and the screen disolves to red. I once heard that there was one more line in
> :> the movie; a few seconds after the red-out, Ray Milland's voice screams in
> :> horror, "OH MY GOD!!! I CAN STILL SEE!!!!"
> :>
> :> Reportedly, it so unnerved the people who saw it, they were forced to remove
> :> it. Is any of this true, or is it just hogwash?
> :
> :All true. Every word.
>
> But was the line removed by movie executives *before* the film
> premiered or a week or so after its release?
As I understand, there had been a few test screenings. People were absolutely
terrified; their souls were blackened. Which means that the film should have been
considered successful, and the line left in.
> ---TSD(Don Rickles was in the movie too, wasn't he?)
Yep. And, as anyone who's seen his dramatic work knows, he's damn good.
Tammy Stephanie Davis
In article <350049E1...@earthlink.net>,
The Midnight Rambler <rfon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:
:
:Bill Livingston wrote:
:
:> Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
:> >Phil Russell wrote:
:>
:> [snip most of very good paper on Roger Corman - nice work, Phil]
:>
:> >X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
:> >but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
Tammy Stephanie Davis
In article <1d5hfc7.1p...@bos-ma7-21.ix.netcom.com>,
Antaeus Feldspar <feld...@cryogen.com> wrote:
:Joe Mason <jcm...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
:
:> In article <34FF5EA1...@earthlink.net>,:> >The Poe films ARE that good (if not on a Hammer level). Again, a real shame
:> >that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
:> >think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
:> >work from. "Undead", anyone?
:> <deep breath>
:>
:> You know, I LIKED Undead. Everyone who saw it with me agreed, in fact. We
:> all said we would watch it without the riffing, and probably vaguely enjoy
:> it.
:>
:>
:> Joe
: Do you mean the Devil, or the Imp? I actually liked the Devil!
:He seemed to be the only one in the movie who realized that it was camp.
Is that why he misaligned his adam's apple?
--TSD(I mean I've heard of sacrificing for one's art, but that was a
bit much....)
Bryan Lambert
On Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:42:05 -0600, Julia <jso...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>Bill Livingston wrote:
>>
>
><snip>
>
>> Bill L.
>> A peeping Tom Turkey with X-Ray eyes. (0.5 pt)
>>
>
>~/o Things are going great... and they're only gettin better...
> I'm doin all right, gettin good grades, future's so bright... ~/o
>
>You know the rest.
>
>Interestingly enough (or not), I attended a Radiation Protection
>Training school in Annapolis about the time this came out and
>(surprisingly enough) we adopted it as our theme song. I even bought the
>Timbuk3 tape and (gasp) occasionally listen to it even to this day.
>
>It was a pretty good one, IMO, and now I'll have to dig it out again.
>Thanks, Bill!
I have a bunch of Timbuk3 CD's, and got a cool acoustic version of Future's So
Bright on a single a couple of years ago which includes an extra verse that does
interesting things to the song...
"Blowin' off class, blowin' the professor,
Torn between to evils I always choose the lesser . . ."
I always suspected that song should never have been used on "Head of the Class".
<reads above sentence> Yeah. That works even better than I thought. :)
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ROT13 Annie K.
On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:07:00, tho...@csulb.edu (Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor)
wrote:
: Ya know, I believe I can honestly say that I have *vaguely* enjoyed every
: Corman film that I've ever seen. <G> Including FRANKENSTEIN UNBOUND, which
: I thought had some nice surrealistic touches to it. And John Hurt.
And Raul Julia. <bg>
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Noah Singman
Joe Mason wrote:
>You know, I LIKED Undead. Everyone who saw it with me agreed, in fact. We
>all said we would watch it without the riffing, and probably vaguely enjoy
>it.
I first saw it as a child (way back in the 60s), and found it interesting.
Every once in a while, the notion that some movies aren't bad enough to be
MSTed surfaces, but I've always disagreed. Virtually any movie can be
MSTed - some movies just serve the riffs up like lobs, others require more
work.
>Except, of course, for the Devil.
Hey - he can't help it; he was cast out of community theater. :-)
Noah
MST#59539
And any movie with Livia in it - VaVaVoom!
Stephen Cooke
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, The Midnight Rambler wrote:
> Phil Russell wrote:
> > In 1961, for the first and only time, Corman took an
> > outright political stand in a film he directed. THE INTRUDER,
> > based on the novel by Charles Beaumont, dealt with the issue of
> > racial segregation. However, due to the Motion Picture
> > Association's refusal to approve it, THE INTRUDER was the first
> > film Corman made that lost money. Taking a lesson from that, he
> > decided never to do anything outright political with his
> > films. (McGee 117-118)
>
> Which is a shame. (no pun intended - The Intruder also went under the original
> title of Shame.)
But it's best title was "I Hate Your Guts" (the version I've seen on
video). And it starred William Shatner! Pure gold, really.
> The Poe films ARE that good (if not on a Hammer level). Again, a real shame
> that Corman didn't have material this good to work with most of the time. I
> think we all know what happens when Corman doesn't have a Beaumont or Poe to
> work from. "Undead", anyone?
I love the Poe films, but they only work in widescreen (on laserdisc,
natch). Corman really cared about these films, and how they looked, and
the result is some startlingly rich colour photography and interesting
set designs.
Trivia note: often, his cameraman was Floyd Crosby, David's dad!
Tomb of Ligeia is priceless, with a great Price performance. And it shows
up in Mean Streets.
swac
Jess Nevins
Stephen Cooke wrote:
>
> On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, The Midnight Rambler wrote:
>
> > Phil Russell wrote:
>
> > > outright political stand in a film he directed. THE INTRUDER,
> > > based on the novel by Charles Beaumont, dealt with the issue of
> > > racial segregation. However, due to the Motion Picture
> > > Association's refusal to approve it, THE INTRUDER was the first
> > > film Corman made that lost money. Taking a lesson from that, he
> > > decided never to do anything outright political with his
> > > films. (McGee 117-118)
> >
> > Which is a shame. (no pun intended - The Intruder also went under the original
> > title of Shame.)
>
> video). And it starred William Shatner! Pure gold, really.
Actually, I got to see THE INTRUDER, and it's not that bad a film.
Credit is also due to Corman for making the film when he did; 1961
was not a time when an anti-racism movie would be received well,
but he went ahead and did it anyhow.
jess
Zaphod Beeblebrox
>> >Phil Russell wrote:
>>
>>
>> >X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
>> >but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
>>
*shudder*
Thanks guys, I'm going to be hearing that for weeks now.
And I was about to go to bed, too...
Zaphod "It's a conspiracy to get me to read more RATMM" Beeblebrox
Ed Lynn
hest...@HAL.ionet.net (Zaphod Beeblebrox) threw on a pair of x-ray
specs and said:
>In article <350049E1...@earthlink.net>, The Midnight Rambler wrote:
>>
>>
>>Bill Livingston wrote:
>>
>>> Previously on "Gemini Man", The Midnight Rambler wrote:
>>> >Phil Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip most of very good paper on Roger Corman - nice work, Phil]
>>>
>>> >Another overlooked classic - and I do mean classic - is "X: The Man With The
>>> >X-Ray Eyes", another collaboration with Beaumont. It sounds cheesy and campy,
>>> >but it's dark and absolutely terrifying.
>>>
what's really odd is that i even remember this line from the movie. in
what year did they remove it? the movie was released a year before i
was born, and yet i'm sure i've seen it with that final line intact.
likely on television as a late night movie or something.
so what's the scoop?
ed "who won't sleep until he can find a copy on video" lynn.
jba...@earthling.net
> Is any of this true, or is it just hogwash?
Absolutely true. There's a great write-up
about it in Stephen King's excellent 'History of
Horror', DANSE MACABRE.
"Average Joe" Barlow
jba...@ipass.net
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Ed Lynn
jba...@earthling.net said:
>> Is any of this true, or is it just hogwash?
>
> Absolutely true. There's a great write-up
>about it in Stephen King's excellent 'History of
>Horror', DANSE MACABRE.
that's where i must've heard it. thanks for the reminder.
Mike Ralls
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 jba...@earthling.net wrote:
> > Is any of this true, or is it just hogwash?
>
> Absolutely true. There's a great write-up
> about it in Stephen King's excellent 'History of
> Horror', DANSE MACABRE.
But doesn't he say it's just a rumor he heard, and that he doesn't know
for sure?
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor
jba...@earthling.net (Joe Barlow) writes:
>On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:21:48 GMT, Secret Agent 42 <gar...@tgn.net>
>wrote:
>>Wasn't Jack Nicholson in that as well?
> Was he? I'm not sure... are you perhaps thinking of "Little Shop
>of Horrors?"
He was in both.
--thor
Secret Agent 42
Steven Thorpe a.k.a. thor wrote:
> kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery) writes:
> >Jamie Plummer (jcp9j!@virginia.edu) wrote:
> >: Derek Janssen <dja...@ultranet.com> wrote:
>
> >: >> PUMPKINHEAD
> >: >The only horror film, IIRC, credited to being "based on a poem"--
> >: >Why do I think they deviated from the original somewhat?...
>
> >: Didn't Corman do a movie of "The Raven?"
>
> > Yep. And while I'll stop before I say it was good, it was
> >entertaining (and you get Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and Peter Lorre
> >all in the same film. Who cares if it's Corman?).
>
>
> Well, I'll say it. I'm not proud. I love THE RAVEN, especially the
> Battle of the Sorcerers between Karloff and Price. Yeah, it's a typical
> Corman quicky (he was probably shooting THE HAUNTED PALACE on the same
> sets the next week) but talent like this can make even Corman look good.
> Karloff and Price were way too professional to just walk through a movie,
> even if it was shit. Personally, I'd watch these guys read the phone book.
>
> --thor (Of course, I'd rather get high with Kate Bush and read the phone
> book -- but that's a whole different weird thread.)
Wasn't Jack Nicholson in that as well?
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Joe Barlow
>Wasn't Jack Nicholson in that as well?
Was he? I'm not sure... are you perhaps thinking of "Little Shop
of Horrors?"
J.
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