>On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:57:56 GMT, Spexmex wrote:
>> Does anyone have this episode? One of the BEST!
>That's my favorite MST3K episode. Followed by "Time Chasers," which just
>so happens to be in the same DVD boxset. How cool is that!?
I've only bought a couple episodes on DVD, because I still have them
all from back when, on VHS, or on VHS that's been copied to DVD-R.
I'm wondering: How much better is the picture quality on the DVD
versions. Now that we've got a nice HDTV, it's been hard to watch old
VHS tapes, or VHS-to-DVD-R conversions.
Is the quality of, say, Space Mutiny, on DVD better than I could hope
from my own VHS copy the I recorded directly off ("Best" quality) TiVo
back when the show first aired on Sci-Fi?
>I've only bought a couple episodes on DVD, because I still have them
>all from back when, on VHS, or on VHS that's been copied to DVD-R.
>I'm wondering: How much better is the picture quality on the DVD
>versions. Now that we've got a nice HDTV, it's been hard to watch old
>VHS tapes, or VHS-to-DVD-R conversions.
>Is the quality of, say, Space Mutiny, on DVD better than I could hope
>from my own VHS copy the I recorded directly off ("Best" quality) TiVo
>back when the show first aired on Sci-Fi?
Yes. It's vastly better. The digital formats allow for a
nearly lossless transmission of the source movies' lack of quality.
> Is the quality of, say, Space Mutiny, on DVD better than I could hope
> from my own VHS copy the I recorded directly off ("Best" quality) TiVo
> back when the show first aired on Sci-Fi?
Yes. Good god, yes. Recording video on VHS is a "lossy" process.
>From memory, I think it's something like 15-20% of the image is lost
when recorded to VHS (because it can only record a fixed number of
lines of information from the original image). This is cumulative,
which is why the image worsens every time you dub one tape to another;
copies of copies of copies (etc.) get progressively more blurry and
indistinct because every new dub omits more information.
[This is only the video component, though. VHS is excellent for
analog audio reproduction. Some years back, before CD recording
became cheap and easy, some audiophiles would tape their prized LP
records onto VHS tapes (via a Hi-Fi VCR): it saved wear and tear on
the records, was more convenient than changing sides and discs, and
(unlike portable audio cassettes) could comfortably accommodate
several hours of high-quality stereo listening pleasure.]
And, topic? Space Mutiny is one of the all-time greats, regardless of
"Mike Coddington" <mo...@sdf.lonestar.org.org> wrote in message
Tom Carberry (#45505, and just my guess, YMMV)
I remember the sound as being sometimes a problem since the beginning.
Of course, I haven't compared TV, VHS and DVD versions side by side.
Nor do I even recall this particular episode, what is it about, some
(Really? I have to post to 4 groups to reply to this? Okay.)
My memory, from the very first VHS "Mitchell" that I bought, was that
there was something muffled about the sound, compared the the VHS
Mitchell I had previously recorded off TV.
I specifically remember noticing it in an early scene where Mitchell
is talking to his boss (I believe, the scene with "He sounds and
smells like William Conrad!").
A big, important part of the gag is all the extra breathing and
wheezing noises added by Joel or one of the bots; that sound just made
the whole scene hysterical.
But when I bought my VHS "Mitchell" and played it for a couple
friends, I realized that they weren't hearing the breathing and extra
noises at all!
That's my experience anyway.
>I must be the only one who thinks the quality of the DVDs, in general, is
>quite poor. I have a really hard time hearing the dialogue from the movie
>unless I turn the volume way up. I can hear the guys just fine, but that's
>only half the gag if you don't hear the original dialogue. Plus, turning the
>volume up makes the guys way too loud...
I actually remember that effect from the very first time I watched an
MST3k episode on live TV. In order to truly hear all of the film's
dialogue clearly, I had to turn the TV up to a level where the voices
of Joel & the Bots were on the "too loud" side. I don't know if I'd
say "way too loud."
I think that first movie, the one where I noticed it, was the one
where the Gilligan-looking racecar drive goes undercover with the
rebels who commit crimes for kicks.
It's a star-studded event. It features Capt. Santa Claus, Big McLarge Huge,
Pat Riley, Sting, Melissa Manchester, and that Sexy Senior Citizen, Debbie
If I recall correctly, the premise is kind of a rip-off of Battlestar
Galactica. (I've never been a BG fan, so I'm going on secondhand info
Actually, after thinking about it, I believe it was his cousin, Big McHuge
If by "rip-off" you mean "uses footage from" then you're correct.
Otherwise, not so much.
-Greg "Slab McBeefsteak" G
Well, that was weird. I sure glad I had the hecklers to help explain
what is going on in the movie. I Like the cyclopedia jokes too.
<leaps from space waxing machine>