"I'll Kill You" and Observations
Boy of Destiny
bad old Dad when he threatened to kill Alison. He is my favorite MP villian
as of yet- he stands up to Amanda, threatens to kill his daughter as she
gets ready to get married, and then stakes out his two daughters at the end.
He's giving Kimberly a run for her money...
Kimberly was totally insane! It was great when she played the kindly
doctor in one scene and then becomes the Dragon Lady around Jane. I want
them to keep her around just to see how they are going to get rid of her- a
long prison sentence (Jane is not going to be found guilty of this) or a
real death this time, or an ambiguous death in which we will see her again?
Well, Billy shows us once again why he can truly be called the worst
actor on television. What was worse- his open mouth during his scene with
Matt or his tantrum at Alison's disappearance?
It is good to see Chaz out of the picture, but was Hillary just
going to sit there and see what happened? Did she actually put up with that
man before the hearing's end? Crazy... But I had a whole question about the
"trial". Alison sees Chaz and Amanda kissing, and then he closes the blinds.
Maybe this is a minor point, but if he was truly resisting and was the
victim, why did he shut the blinds then? Like I said, this is not a lot but
it seems suspicious to me.
I want to see Jake and Jo together again, but she should not have to
put up with his I'm-confused-and-really-horny act. I say let Amanda keep him.
Sydney, surprisingly, was not in as many scenes as I thought. But
she was great when she enters MP and sees Michael there.
I wonder if Jane has some sort of alibi... Michael had this confused
look on his face. I wonder if he was just confused that Jane was about tho
run him over, or that someone else looking like her in her car was about to
get him.
As for the Kiss, I must say I was completely disappointed. It was
rather insulting- they should have done it or just leave it alone. The slow
motion action was the cheesiest shot of all time, and NOTHING happened.
There was just the suggestion! It was ridiculous; how anyone could have been
offended by that is beyond me. Spelling and Star did us a disservice- get
some balls, guys! Plus, to make things worse, the next scene is Jane kissing
this Australian guy. They sure weren't shy about showing that one.
John
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John J. Edwards Student in the College
University of Chicago jedw...@midway.uchicago.edu
"Know what I pray for? The strength to change what I can, the
inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the
difference"- "Calvin and Hobbes"
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Sleepy
> Well, I had a feeling that many of you out there were cheering on
>bad old Dad when he threatened to kill Alison. He is my favorite MP villian
>as of yet- he stands up to Amanda, threatens to kill his daughter as she
>gets ready to get married, and then stakes out his two daughters at the end.
>He's giving Kimberly a run for her money...
>
> Kimberly was totally insane! It was great when she played the kindly
>doctor in one scene and then becomes the Dragon Lady around Jane. I want
>them to keep her around just to see how they are going to get rid of her- a
>long prison sentence (Jane is not going to be found guilty of this) or a
>real death this time, or an ambiguous death in which we will see her again?
bail her sister out of a bind by giving the lowdown on Kim. Kim's off
to the big house to never be heard from again (until sweeps week?). Mike
learns a lesson here - stop messin' wit them messed up women!! Of course,
Syd still feels sorry for him and hopefully Mike sees the light and either
becomes a truly mad mad man or he gets back together with Syd.
Ira M. Goldstein Student in the Med School
>University of Chicago ig...@midway.uchicago.edu
Mklprc
Kimberly was in bed with Michael and the covers, twice, fell low
enough to reveal her bodystocking worn to prevent display of
unauthorized sections of her body. "Where is NYPD when we need you"
come to mind.
In the office scene during which Allison is served with a supoena,
she has a Quadra 605 on her desk. I suggested they upgrade those
orphaned antiques from Property just two weeks ago. The show was
filmed a month ago. That's pretty prescient of them, eh?
Jake tells Amanda he needs more "space," women's euphemism for "stay
away from me for a while." Hey, no fair, women shout. "That's our
line."
Jane's "I'll kill you" line was just a little too obvious.
All the "Models, Inc." fillers between acts were pretty calculating,
but I'll be there, at least via vcr, June 29.
Linda Gray still looks awful, but if it hasn't been filmed already,
they will probably tone down the death-purple lipstick. Maybe thanks
to our rants here.
If Spelling or Darren Star doesn't have a staffer lurking here full
time and filing detailed reports on our postings, they don't
understand the concept of "focus groups." Where else could they get a
more varied, opinionated demographic slice for less money?
Billy peers out the window seeing Matt and Rob kissing. This is the
"dreaded" kiss that all the fuss was about. The stop-action animation
which cut away before any actual image of contact, along with the
intimate conversation of joy at finding each other, was the best
thing for showing adult communication I have seen on TV yet. These
guys _got together_ and that is what is important. Good scene. For
that I will concede the visual representation so many posters have
been clamoring for. This kind of scene does more to scuttle the Xist
right homophobia than any graphic representation could ever do
because it pulls the rug out from under their prejudices.
I want to see Allison's father flayed on the street in front of
Melrose Place, flies feasting on his exposed internal organs as he
dies fully conscious of why. Good job of emotional manipulation,
writers. Next fall should see the dirty secret out and Mom will fall
too. But Dad must die.
Good to see you on board, Tracy Nelson. There is a vacant apartment
available...
Jane has enough witness to stave off the grand jury; Kim will attempt
more kills. Or she could be busted in the first act and Jane will
walk. She will also get decision power over the design contract while
Michael is out cold.
Gonna be a long summer.
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Paul Marshall
> From: jedw...@midway.uchicago.edu
John had some good points, and I'd like to -explore- them further!...
> Kimberly was totally insane! It was great when she played the kindly
>doctor in one scene and then becomes the Dragon Lady around Jane. I want
It's way too strange. And how the hell does she keep her wig
on? She brushes through her hair like it's the real thing, babeeeee.
Another loose hole in the plot line.
>"trial". Alison sees Chaz and Amanda kissing, and then he closes the blinds.
>Maybe this is a minor point, but if he was truly resisting and was the
>victim, why did he shut the blinds then? Like I said, this is not a lot but
>it seems suspicious to me.
You would think that Alison likes her job well enough to try to remember the
rather -obvious- way that Mr. Chaz-muh-tazz closed the blinds, and would oh,
just maybe BRING IT UP at that phony trial to save her job!!!
Remember how he was pushing all that work off on her, and treated her like
garbage? And now she supposedly believes his every word? C'mon, Spelling -
these last couple of shows are the work of writers who are looking forward
to the summer off and think they can churn out a plot line with too many
implausible twists without anyone noticing.
> I want to see Jake and Jo together again, but she should not have to
>put up with his I'm-confused-and-really-horny act. I say let Amanda keep him.
The rare moment of believability in tonight's episode. I felt badly for
Jo...
> Sydney, surprisingly, was not in as many scenes as I thought. But
Let's have more of Sydney! She's -great-! Rather pathetic portrayal of
her as a street girl, though... and how long does she have to pay off
Lauren? -Forever-? Is she on the Call Girl Payment Plan?
> I wonder if Jane has some sort of alibi... Michael had this confused
Yea, that's another thing - you would think Jane would blurt out that she's
been at work the whole time - and for heaven's sake, she does have employees
there that can tell if she's there or not. But no, time was a-wastin' on
the 2-hour plot clock so we just have to drag Jane away a-kickin' and a-
screamin'.
The only thing she should get arrested for is kissing that designer dude...
Yes, I still love the show, and I love different plot twists, but I would
like to have a bigger helping of believability served with each show.
BELIEVABILITY is the TV viewers' inalienable right! UNITE!
...Paul
Claud Lee
(Mklprc) writes:
"If Spelling or Darren Star doesn't have a staffer lurking here full
time and filing detailed reports on our postings, they don't
understand the concept of "focus groups." Where else could they get a
more varied, opinionated demographic slice for less money?"
mklprc:
Since you are an AOLer, you should check out the MP message board
(keyword: tv gossip). Chip Hayes, the producer for MP, reads/posts
to that board.
Dianne K Brooks
Jane truly should have been arrested and prosecuted
for being a FASHION CRIMINAL...I don't get it
are we supposed to believe that anyone would buy
her horrifying designs. And I point to that
hideous wedding attire that Allison was
sporting before she bailed...
And what happened to Kimberly's wig/scar
action. Haven't seen a reference to that
in weeks.
Did anyone notice that white picket
fence signals Allison's family as in
said fence in front of Meredith's house?
According to soap rules of pregnancy
shouldn't Jo be showing some evidence
that she is indeed with child?
The whole Matt/kiss/Billy's friend
thing was absolutely lame! Why have
him on the show, to tell us how lonely
and pitiful it is to be gay? Spelling/
Star = moral majority???
Amanda get a comb for that hair!
Thats all for now....
Dianne
Sleepy
>Thoughts on tonight's final episode
>
>Kimberly was in bed with Michael and the covers, twice, fell low
>enough to reveal her bodystocking worn to prevent display of
>unauthorized sections of her body. "Where is NYPD when we need you"
>come to mind.
You mustn't tease me like this! My cheesy 9" B&W with the double vision
due to UHF Fox here in Chicago kept me from seeing something over something
naughty? Was it a flesh-colored body stocking or what? Enquiring minds
want to know!
>In the office scene during which Allison is served with a supoena,
>she has a Quadra 605 on her desk.
And I'll bet she doesn't even know how to type or access the 'Net. I'd like
a new story line centered around Ted, whenever he gets out of prison, and
Allison's computer to run something like (real life at Cornell 2 years ago!)
this: Ted starts dating Meredith and the two of them visit Allison and Billy's
den of oh-so-much passion, steals her office keys which are sitting on nice
little hooks next to the door, and heads right out to D&D, from which he begins
to distribute kiddy porn OF ALLISON AND POPS, taken by Allison's mum mom back
in the days, and Allison gets busted for selling such material and for posting
it to Prodigy in the 'Learning ABCs with Ernie and Bert' group. She goes to
the pen and Ted leaves Meredith because his new 'Net connections hook him up
with similar volumes of smut. Billy and Meredith start going out until he
realizes she won't have sex with him because of something her father did. So
B-boy goes out to wherever the hell Allison's folks be at and he socks Mr.
Parker in the jaw and tells him, "If you go near Allison, I mean Meredith,
again I swear I'll kill you!" (did I get the line right from when he socked
it to Keith?). He returns to MP to find Meredith and Keith together,
originally just a filming error because Keith was just lounging around with
his wife, but some crafty devils in the editing room decided to leave it in.
Billy then kicks the door really hard and breaks both it and his foot. At
the hospital, Kim treats him and tries to enlist his aid in killing off
Keith, who has dated sisters, much like Mike did which got him into trouble.
But Kim dies of a cerebral hemorrhage before she can sleep with Billy.
Allison can meet Chaz in prison, one of those innovative co-ed deals, and
they can begin a torrid affair.
>Jane's "I'll kill you" line was just a little too obvious.
And out of character. But if she can become a homicidal maniac like those
characters I like, then all the better for Melrose Place. Kim is getting old,
its time for me to move on. :>
>If Spelling or Darren Star doesn't have a staffer lurking here full
>time
Uh oh, I'm getting scared... I think I'll turn my computer off at night before
showers and bed lest Ted, converted after his stay in prison, decide to
peep in my screen for something to whet his, uh, forget it. This is getting
stupid.
>Billy peers out the window seeing Matt and Rob kissing. This is the
>"dreaded" kiss that all the fuss was about. The stop-action animation
>which cut away before any actual image of contact
Even Leno had to complain about this - they have hookers, murders, drug-
dealers' illegitimate spawn, adulterers galore, cheats, sneaks, blackmailers,
and they show Mike in bed with a brained mutant, yet two adult men cannot
kiss? I'd have to agree - the edit was pretty wimpy.
>too. But Dad must die.
Surely you jest! Anything to provide Allison with even a semblance of
either conflict or character is a change for the better. Change this line
to "But Dad must direct" for the movies presented to all by Ted would not
be nearly as interesting as those shot by Mr. Parker of Sydney receiving
a spanking and doing *chores* for being a naughty little girl. Afterwards,
kill him if you must, but you'd be killing the wrong Parker.
>Jane has enough witness to stave off the grand jury; Kim will attempt
>more kills. Or she could be busted in the first act
I said it before and I'll say it again until my prediction is proven wrong:
Syd rats on Kim. Kim goes bye bye and is off to the big house. Mike
is still desired by Syd. He'll probably still put her down. Jane won't
make it *big* in fashion because of Mike's pettiness. (otherwise, she'd
get a house after hitting it big, no?)
>Gonna be a long summer.
After first year med school, I hope so!!!
- Ira M. Goldstein
The University of Chicago
Pritzker School of Medicine
Paul Marshall
>From: bro...@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Dianne K Brooks)
>Subject: Re: "I'll Kill You" and Observations
>As for my thought on last nights season finale:
>Amanda get a comb for that hair!
Oh, c'mon, Dianne, don't you know that guys just -love- that tossed
hair? That "just-woke-up" look? :-)
IMHO, it's attractive.... Any other opinions?
Paul
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Paul Marshall (pa...@nwu.edu)
Kellogg Graduate School of Management / Northwestern University
Evanston, Illinois
JenRogers
ig...@ellis.uchicago.edu (Sleepy) writes:
Excellent plotting!! (But who's Ted, again?)
Sleepy
Peeping Ted?
The skinny guy hiding in Amanda's ceiling?
The curly haired guy who Amanda threatened to poke the eyes out of?
The handyman who was fired after one day (who was cleaning out the pipes in
Allison's bedroom)?
hope this jogs your memory....
Carol Hurley
>
> Linda Gray still looks awful, but if it hasn't been filmed already,
> they will probably tone down the death-purple lipstick. Maybe thanks
> to our rants here.
>
I'm so glad someone mentioned this. I came into work last Thursday and
said to one of my co-workers that something about the way Linda Gray's
mouth looks is frightening.
sbr...@eagle.wesleyan.edu
>
>>As for my thought on last nights season finale:
>>Amanda get a comb for that hair!
>
>
> Oh, c'mon, Dianne, don't you know that guys just -love- that tossed
> hair? That "just-woke-up" look? :-)
>
> IMHO, it's attractive.... Any other opinions?
>
> Paul
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I don't care for that bedhead look myself. I agree - get a comb,
and get a good dye job that goes all the way down to the roots!
I saw a photo of Heather in People magazine's "50 Most Beautiful
People" edition, and her hair was *all* blonde, curly, and very
cute. She looked 10 years younger! (Not that she looks old). I
thought it looked much better than her hair on MP.
Do guys *really* like that "Just out of bed" look? If so, why?!
Sandy
David Aaron Tepper
>I don't care for that bedhead look myself. I agree - get a comb,
>and get a good dye job that goes all the way down to the roots!
>I saw a photo of Heather in People magazine's "50 Most Beautiful
>People" edition, and her hair was *all* blonde, curly, and very
>cute. She looked 10 years younger! (Not that she looks old). I
>thought it looked much better than her hair on MP.
>
>Do guys *really* like that "Just out of bed" look? If so, why?!
Some women (and some men) can pull it off, if they have the right
kind of hair that rumples well. Some just can't, and unfortunately
Ms. Locklear is one of those that can't. Neither can Courtney,
Laura, or Doug, but Andrew's, Daphne's, and Grant's all look
great messed up properly. There's an art to properly messed-up
hair.
Dave
ElaineB305
Hurley) writes:
I'll bet when she cries, Linda Grey looks like Alice Cooper, what
with all that makeup running down her face. Also, what's with the
shag haircut? And why does she look so much like 50's-era Joan
Crawford?
ElaineB305
sbr...@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
Guys do like that just-did-it hair look, but Amanda's is way over the
top. She looks like a Times Square hooker. And while I'm on the
subject, does anyone out there work in a place where crotch-skimming
miniskirts are accepted business attire? (Besides professional
cheerleaders and cocktail waiteresses. I work in a large advertising
agency in New York, and while L.A. is a lot more laid back, I doubt
"Basic Instinct"-like displays of vulva go over real big there,
either.
David A Crotty
Actually, she looks more like a drag queen imitating Joan Crawford.
dave
mofo
yeah, best response i can figger is snickering among the boys in the
office. problem with heather is she has the worst skinny legs. her
looks would vastly improve if she'd comb that hair and put a wrap on
those legs. she looks as if she was a cowboy in a previous life.
d
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what a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have a mind as being
very wasteful. how true that is.
- from a guy who knows, dan quaylude
Stephanie Fish
: in article <2s087e$p...@search01.news.aol.com> elain...@aol.com (ElaineB305) scribbles in crayon:
: >In article <1994May24...@eagle.wesleyan.edu>,
: >sbr...@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
: >
: >Guys do like that just-did-it hair look, but Amanda's is way over the
: >top. She looks like a Times Square hooker. And while I'm on the
: >subject, does anyone out there work in a place where crotch-skimming
: >miniskirts are accepted business attire? (Besides professional
: >cheerleaders and cocktail waiteresses. I work in a large advertising
: >agency in New York, and while L.A. is a lot more laid back, I doubt
: >"Basic Instinct"-like displays of vulva go over real big there,
: >either.
: yeah, best response i can figger is snickering among the boys in the
: office. problem with heather is she has the worst skinny legs. her
: looks would vastly improve if she'd comb that hair and put a wrap on
: those legs. she looks as if she was a cowboy in a previous life.
I read somewhere - in one of those silly magazines - that Heather Locklear
is actually the one reaponsible for those *very* short skirts and that
it is because of her skinny legs. Okay here it is in the June issue of
ELLE - for all you Heather/Amander lovers the picture is really good too -
anyways, she says "'You have to show a little bit of my muscle up here,
or else my legs will just look really stick-y.' So they shorten them a
little more. 'No' I say, 'keep going, keep going!'"
It's a cute 10 question interview for you avid Heather fans.
ca...@delphi.com
to brush her hair in the morning- she's depressed
because she knows that 25 years from now she will look like dear old
mom- a plastic surgery victim. By the way, the
shag hair on grey is to hide surgery scars in front of
her ears! Yikes! She looks like the creature from the Black Lagoon!
z