Hawkeye Saluting
Mary Emily Cummins
I have now (in my 1996 attempt to watch every single episode!!) seen
three instances:
Hawkeye saluted Radar twice and the Father once (when he got promoted to
captain last night).
Emily
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Mary Emily Cummins
: He saluted Col. Potter in the mash Finale....
:) But I haven't gotten there yet (presuming FOX even shows it, by the
time we get there).
Actually, I'm wondering how far along in the approx. 250 issues we are by
now. We just had the episode where Father Mulcahy gets promoted to
Captain. It was the one where Rosie was hospitalized and the swampers
ran the bar. Then we had the episode where Potter and Charles have to
share a tent since they both have the mumps.
Does that identify to any of you longer-term fans how far along in the
series we are? Margaret's divorce is final, and she has had her Scully
fling already too.
Eric Newman
>He saluted Col. Potter in the mash Finale....
He saluted Radar when he had his Purple Heart on.
Eric Newman
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Yoda Meat
else has the exact episode guide. I think it is at one of the faq sites.
You can get it there.
Chris
promotion episode too. If I recall correctly, we're in seventh season
now, meaning it'll be awhile before the series finale. Don't expect to
see it, though - last two times through FOX skipped it. Our station seems
to favor skipping great episodes - Henry's last episode and the one that
Harry Morgan portrays a nutso admiral were BOTH skipped this go around.
Check the MASH Episode Guide on this newsgroup to see exactly where the
Mulcahy episode falls.
rassilon
>
>I know I have seen this thread before, but I can't restore it.
>
>I have now (in my 1996 attempt to watch every single episode!!) seen
>three instances:
>
>Hawkeye saluted Radar twice and the Father once (when he got promoted to
>captain last night).
Mulcahy got promoted last night? It seemed like 20 years ago to me :-)
rassilon
Bill Tanner
think it was the eapsoid (spelling is bad) Where the bezerk chinese guy in OR
killed Trapers patent (Oh VERY BAD SPELLING) And nicked Hawkeye`s at the time
newly met girl friend.
George Brock-Nannestad
: I know I have seen this thread before, but I can't restore it.
: I have now (in my 1996 attempt to watch every single episode!!) seen
: three instances:
: Hawkeye saluted Radar twice and the Father once (when he got promoted to
: captain last night).
He also saluted Frank once and when Frank questioned him about this strange
behaviour he answered "We all have our bad days!" :-)
-Laust
Sam Pinizzotto
>I know I have seen this thread before, but I can't restore it.
>I have now (in my 1996 attempt to watch every single episode!!) seen
>three instances:
>Hawkeye saluted Radar twice and the Father once (when he got promoted to
>captain last night).
>Emily
There was one episode I remember when Frank was playing practical jokes on
Hawkeye. At the very end, Hawkeye (Similar to the movie) waited til Frank got
into the latrine and then had another soldier cut a rope which was holding the
sides of the tent up. Frank was reading the Star Herald and everyone was
applauding.
Then Hawkeye salutes Frank....
Sam
Mary Emily Cummins
: into the latrine and then had another soldier cut a rope which was holding the
: sides of the tent up. Frank was reading the Star Herald and everyone was
: applauding.
: Then Hawkeye salutes Frank....
Several people have mentioned these non-serious salutes, but I think only
the serious ones should count. So, so far I have personally witnessed
only three: one to Radar when he gets the Purple Heart, one to Radar from
OR when Radar is going home, and one to Father Mulcahy in the bar when
the Father gets promoted to captain.
Reid Stanley
> Several people have mentioned these non-serious salutes, but I think only
> the serious ones should count. So, so far I have personally witnessed
> only three: one to Radar when he gets the Purple Heart, one to Radar from
> OR when Radar is going home, and one to Father Mulcahy in the bar when
> the Father gets promoted to captain.
The one that really stands out in my mind is when Hawkeye and BJ salute
Potter in the Final episode. . .
Reid Stanley
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Mary Emily Cummins
: > only three: one to Radar when he gets the Purple Heart, one to Radar from
: > OR when Radar is going home, and one to Father Mulcahy in the bar when
: > the Father gets promoted to captain.
: The one that really stands out in my mind is when Hawkeye and BJ salute
: Potter in the Final episode. . .
Reid - Well I hope I'll get to that episode! :) If my station shows it.
mag3
I also remember a salute of Hawkeye's, which was done, I think in humor. I
recall an episode where Frank had some problem with the latrine (or using it)
and in the end, they played a joke on him by lifting the shed off of it
exposing Frank in all his glory :-). Hawkeye saluted him as they played "Stars
and Stripes Forever" over the P.A., much to his embarassment.
Regards,
Arnold.
ma...@netcom.com
Ken Wagoner
1) When nurse Lt. Maggie Cuttler ran across the compound after losing her towel
after bumping into Trapper and Hawkeye. As I remember they both observe her
running and smile, snap to attention and salute. Not really serious, unless
but certainly a salute of respect (smile)
2) When Radar is awarded his Purple Heart, after he and Hawkeye have
had a very
strong argument. Hawkeye is talking to radar in the office and
say's he's
going to do something he very seldom does. Radar asks "You're not
going to
kiss me are you?", and Hawkeye steps back, comes to attention and
salutes.
3) When Father Mulcahy is promoted to Captain, Hawkeye's salute is
among all
the others in the bar. This is the only one which really doesn't
stand out in
my mind, perhaps because I've only seen this episode one time.
4) And of course, Hawkeye and BJ's final gift to Colonel Potter, the
goodbye
salute in the last episode.
regards, and aaaaaabysinia!
Ken
MrQuixote
occasions upon which Hawkeye saluted were special ones, why do you think
he made it standard practice NOT to salute? And if he didn't when he was
supposed to, why wasn't he brought up on charges?
Mary Emily Cummins
: occasions upon which Hawkeye saluted were special ones, why do you think
: he made it standard practice NOT to salute? And if he didn't when he was
: supposed to, why wasn't he brought up on charges?
I think that in the show's world, Potter was too laidback (and not hung
up on protocol like some of the other Officers we met) to be legalistic.
After all, it was a combat zone, so why harp on the pointless when you're
that close all the time to the line between life and death?
Then again, in real life, I think that the reason for lots of military
protocol (about saluting, stuff like that) is based on the need for
discipline. If some things get ingrained in you, you won't forget even
in a crisis situation. Like when there's a bomb, keep your head down and
lie flat! Or when you're advancing, keep your eyes on your CO!
Anarchy would have been horrible in any MASH, but the anarchy that the
swamp residents practiced was limited; it seemed like just a way to
relieve the tension in a frivolous manner.
Aimee Pellet
On 24 Apr 1996, MrQuixote wrote:
> Here's a curious thought. Since it's obvious from the posts that the
> occasions upon which Hawkeye saluted were special ones, why do you think
> he made it standard practice NOT to salute? And if he didn't when he was
> supposed to, why wasn't he brought up on charges?
>
>
Well, this is my opinion... I think that he considered saluting
just another means of control, etc. that the army imposed upon the
soldiers and he, therefore, refused to give in. Being the anti-army guy
that he was, he would only "sacrafice" doing this for people he thought
were special and/or worthy (except when it was done in jest), in this
case Radar and the Father.
As for why he was not punished, I think both Cols. knew how he
felt and didn't force him to salute.
My 2 cents,
Aimee
be...@isdn.net
When Col.Blake, and Radar left for home and when they were ALL going
home and wanted to show their apprecaition to Col.Potter!
Yes, THOSE salutes had infinitely MORE meaning than the toadying ones
of Frank! Walk Proud and Far,
Leon A. Helguera
Thor Firesbane
>the serious ones should count. So, so far I have personally witnessed
>only three: one to Radar when he gets the Purple Heart, one to Radar from
>OR when Radar is going home, and one to Father Mulcahy in the bar when
>the Father gets promoted to captain.
>
and Trapper are trying to get an incubator. The major had 3 incubators
(2 sill in their boxes) and Hawkeye gave the major a real salute when the
major walked in.
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MIchael Johnson
I think Aimee's right, although I must add that I believe that Hawkeye
often snubbed authority purposely, knowing they would never arrest and
jail such a talented (and therefore, valuable) surgeon.
MJ130
Andrew Foeller
> >So, so far I have personally witnessed only three: one to Radar when he
> >gets the Purple Heart, one to Radar from OR when Radar is going home, and
> >one to Father Mulcahy in the bar when the Father gets promoted to captain.
> >
> Hawkeye gives a serious salute to a major in the episode where he
> and Trapper are trying to get an incubator.
In the final, two-hour M*A*S*H episode, Hawkeye and BJ salute Col. Potter
as a going-away present. It was a real salute.. then Potter rode off on
his horse.
Actually, I think there was a lot more saluting than that in the final
episode, but I can't remember.. that one was the most memorable.
Eric Newman
be...@isdn.net wrote:
I don't think Hawkeye saluted Henry went he "went home." He did kiss
him, though. And Hawkeye also saluted Radar when he got his Purple
Heart.
Eric Newman
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jason moss
One instance that people have been seeming to forget is in an episode in
the first season. Hawkeye salutes to a sergeant with his Moose. It wasn't
anything to write home about but he does salute.
Jason
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Deep Six
mrqu...@aol.com (MrQuixote) writes:
> Here's a curious thought. Since it's obvious from the posts that the
> occasions upon which Hawkeye saluted were special ones, why do you think
> he made it standard practice NOT to salute?
I think the Hawkeye character makes a point about respect. In the
military, saluting is a show of respect from one person to his
superior. The subordinate initiates the salute and the superior
recognizes it by saluting back. Nothing so wrong about showing
respect, but the problem (for Hawkeye) is that in the military
you're told to who to respect. Namely, anyone who is your
superior. For Hawkeye, many so-called superiors just don't
deserve respect. Conversely, people who were not superior
officers can be deserving of respect. So, when he did render
respect by saluting, it was genuine, not just a token. This is
also why you see Hawkeye initiating a salute to "inferiors"
(Radar). IMO, it's a big "respect must be earned" point in the
show.
> And if he didn't when he was
> supposed to, why wasn't he brought up on charges?
The stock explanation for Hawkeye and the others not getting
busted (there are too many examples to name) is that, as
surgeons, nurses, whatever, they were just too valuable. Not very
realistic, IMO, considering the real U.S. committment in Korea.
This also points up a MASH topic that I struggle with. IMO, if
there were a real Henry Blake, his unit would be plagued by
chronic morale problems and substandard performance. It's just a
show, I know, but if I can't nit-pick, what can I do?
Okay then,
Chadd VanZanten SL...@CC.USU.EDU ``People are bloody ignorant
apes.'' --Samuel Beckett, Waiting For Godot
Debbie Conroy
There's another episode that I haven't seen in this post in which
Hawkeye salutes.
In one of the earlier Dear Dad episodes with Trapper, he's so bored he
tells Trapper that he could walk around the compound stark naked and
nobody would notice. So as he walks out of his tent to go to the mess
tent (supposedly stark naked, two men carrying a large board go across
the screen) he returns a salute by a soldier who passes by.
Deb
MrQuixote
Deep Six writes:
"This also points up a MASH topic that I struggle with. IMO, if
there were a real Henry Blake, his unit would be plagued by
chronic morale problems and substandard performance. It's just a
show, I know, but if I can't nit-pick, what can I do?"
Hey, I may not agree with you but I'll defend to the death your right to
pick nits.
Why do you think if there was a real Henry Blake his unit would have
chronic morale problems and substandard performance? The 4077 prided
itself on the "Best Care Anywhere." The doctors and nurses were generally
caring and competent. They did what any good military unit does: assign
someone formally or informally to be the scrounger and come up with the
stuff they need to keep patients alive but can't get through normal
channels. They did good deeds for the local indigenous
personnel--especially kids in the orphanage--which has to make them feel
good inside.
Do you think the unit would have been more efficient and had higher morale
with a Frank Burns type running it by the book? You want to watch morale
go to hell in a handbasket, get a CO in there who is more concerned about
kissing up to the brass and keeping things polished, rather than
understanding the real mission--saving lives by hook or crook or whatever
means necessary.
Having been in the military, in combat, and had both types of CO's, I'll
take the Henry Blake type anyday. If my fate in Vietnam had been in the
hands of the ROTC lieutenants who wanted to show the Major how gung ho
they were, I wouldn't be here to write this pick of your nitpick. Or
maybe you think spitshined combat boots instill esprit de corps?
MH
Aimee Pellet
If anyone tries this, please let me know how this turns out.
Aimee
Daniel Higgs
Also in the last Radar episode
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Jim Leahy
In article <1996Apr27.0...@cc.usu.edu>, sl...@cc.usu.edu (Deep
Six) wrote:
> mrqu...@aol.com (MrQuixote) writes:
>
> > Here's a curious thought. Since it's obvious from the posts that the
> > occasions upon which Hawkeye saluted were special ones, why do you think
> > he made it standard practice NOT to salute?
>
> I think the Hawkeye character makes a point about respect. In the
> military, saluting is a show of respect from one person to his
> superior. The subordinate initiates the salute and the superior
> recognizes it by saluting back. Nothing so wrong about showing
> respect, but the problem (for Hawkeye) is that in the military
> you're told to who to respect. Namely, anyone who is your
> superior. For Hawkeye, many so-called superiors just don't
> deserve respect. Conversely, people who were not superior
> officers can be deserving of respect. So, when he did render
> respect by saluting, it was genuine, not just a token. This is
> also why you see Hawkeye initiating a salute to "inferiors"
> (Radar). IMO, it's a big "respect must be earned" point in the
> show.
[snip]
Here in the SF Bay area, the episodes recently "rolled over," and the
earlier ones have started. In these early episodes, Hawkeye salutes
fairly often. I haven't paid close enough attention to tell you exact
episode names/numbers, but I recall one in the episode where they go
across the lines to get several wounded Americans. This is the one where
Frank brings Margaret's gun with him. In fact, I'd say that, in these
early episodes, Hawkeye salutes somebody once every two or three shows.
.
Bob Duncan
Let's not all forget that wonderful salute by Hawkeye and Trapper to
Hotlips when she had the massager strapped to her hand!
Brad Filippone
Jim Leahy (jle...@garnet.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: In article <1996Apr27.0...@cc.usu.edu>, sl...@cc.usu.edu (Deep
: Six) wrote:
: [snip]
Yeah, he and Trapper salute a nurse who has just lost her towell!
: .
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Sascha Mürtz
cum...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Mary Emily Cummins) konnte sich nicht
zurückhalten, folgendes abzuschicken:
(cut)
Hawkeye saluted the "deceased" Captain Tuttle (his imaginary friend)
on his eulogy.
CU, Sascha :-)
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