M*A*S*H bloopers?
Eric L Miller
Cynthia Ross wrote:
>
> Hey folks!
> Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers. I only
> remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
> drafted> and I was wondering if y'all could come up with any more. The
> ones I remember are the problems with the "point" system of rotation. 1)
> It was discontinued before the Korean conflict and 2) It was never used
> for medical personal to begin with and that Radar was supposed to be a
> draftee, but his ID number began w/ RA, like he had enlisted. Anyone else
> have any other bloopers?
>
> Cindy
One blooper that came up over and over again was the constant references
to Godzilla. "Godzilla, King Of The Monsters," the first in the series,
did not come out until 1954, a year after the Korean War ended.
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Cynthia Ross wrote:
>
> Hey folks!
> Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers. I only
> remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
> drafted> and I was wondering if y'all could come up with any more. The
> ones I remember are the problems with the "point" system of rotation. 1)
> It was discontinued before the Korean conflict and 2) It was never used
> for medical personal to begin with and that Radar was supposed to be a
> draftee, but his ID number began w/ RA, like he had enlisted. Anyone else
> have any other bloopers?
>
> Cindy
There are several inconsistancies throughout the series. After all 11
1/2 years is a long time to be perfect.
One I remember involves an episode that condenses 1951 into one show.
Potter was "Baby" 1951 at the beginning and "Old Man" 1951 at end. The
only problem is that Potter didn't start at the 4077th Mash until
September 1952 (according to his first episode).
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Robert Sulo
I remember that blooper too. Here goes another one. In an early
episode, (I don't know which one), Hawkeye mentioned that he had a
sister), later on he said he was an only child. In the Korean war there
was only one time the Chinese advanced their territory, but in M*A*S*H
there were two full episodes about the chinese invasions.
Workin...@worldnet.att.net
snip
>
> There are several inconsistancies throughout the series. After all 11
> 1/2 years is a long time to be perfect.
snip
Speaking of inconsistancies:
How about Hawkeye being from Vermont at the beginning? Also, in the
earlier M*A*S*H episodes I remember at least one reference to his
mother and, I believe, a sister. Later, Hawk was an only child -- and
his mother had died by the time he was 12. Remember the episode when
Radar's Mom had started dating -- and Radar was jealous? Hawkeye was
explaining to Radar that he had experienced the same feelings.
Arlene
Cynthia Ross
Bill Hale
I always thought "RA" meant "Regular Army" as opposed to National Guard
or Reserves. Regardless of whether you enlisted or were drafted, GIs
should have had an "RA" serial number. If I remember, if I were drafted
it would have been a two-year stint, but if I enlisted it would have
been three. However, enlistees were supposed to get better technical
training.
Bill
MrQuixote
Regarding Radar's RA serial number ....
I'm not sure what it was in Korea, but by the early sixties, enlisted
ranks in the US Army were either RA -- regular army on a minimum three
year enlistment; US -- drafted for two years; or NG, meaning they were on
active duty from a national guard unit.
fishkind dena
I think that in one episode early on, Henry referred to his
wife as Mildred and then later as Lorraine. Mildred then became Colonel
Potter's wife's name.
Gary Morgan
>Cynthia Ross wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks!
>> Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers. I only
>> remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
>> drafted> and I was wondering if y'all could come up with any more. The
>> ones I remember are the problems with the "point" system of rotation. 1)
>> It was discontinued before the Korean conflict and 2) It was never used
>> for medical personal to begin with and that Radar was supposed to be a
>> draftee, but his ID number began w/ RA, like he had enlisted. Anyone else
>> have any other bloopers?
>>
>> Cindy
In one episode which aired on WBSK last week (can't remember the
name), Hawkeye complete's a sentence for someone with "M-O-U-S-E"
using the Mickey Mouse Club song...trouble is the Mickey Mouse club
didn't come around until after the Korean War...
gary
John Szalay
Gary Morgan wrote:
>
> >Cynthia Ross wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey folks!
> >> Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers. I only
> >> remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
> >> drafted> and I was wondering if y'all could come up with any more. The
> >> ones I remember are the problems with the "point" system of rotation. 1)
> >> It was discontinued before the Korean conflict and 2) It was never used
> >> for medical personal to begin with and that Radar was supposed to be a
> >> draftee, but his ID number began w/ RA, like he had enlisted. Anyone else
> >> have any other bloopers?
> >>
> >> Cindy
>
>
Can't remember if it was in the movie or the TV version, but in
Henry's office
they had a model of HUEY (UH-1) helicopter, it happened only once,
every other time
the models were of the Bell helicopter, that we see in the opening.
IIRC:
The Bell bubble canopy model was still a little only used late in the
war,
the Huey did,nt come into use until late 1950's early 60's.
Pete Boilard
>
> In one episode which aired on WBSK last week (can't remember the
> name), Hawkeye complete's a sentence for someone with "M-O-U-S-E"
> using the Mickey Mouse Club song...trouble is the Mickey Mouse club
> didn't come around until after the Korean War...
> gary
>
current time.
One time when Klinger was in deep trouble they made mention to the "Save
the Klinger Foundation". I think that started with the "Save the Loons"
some time in the 60's.
Toddy Kaemke
MOZBURN <MOZ...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Cynthia Ross wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks!
>> Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers.
I remember one, that Frank Burns gave two different names of his wife,
but do not know which ones.
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: Can't remember if it was in the movie or the TV version, but in
: Henry's office
: they had a model of HUEY (UH-1) helicopter, it happened only once,
: every other time
: the models were of the Bell helicopter, that we see in the opening.
: IIRC:
: The Bell bubble canopy model was still a little only used late in the
: war,
: the Huey did,nt come into use until late 1950's early 60's.
You can see that alot in the early shows. In the officers club
there is a sign with the same type of helocopter on it.
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Shannon Creamer
>remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
>drafted> and I was wondering if y'all could come up with any more. The
>ones I remember are the problems with the "point" system of rotation. 1)
>It was discontinued before the Korean conflict and 2) It was never used
>for medical personal to begin with and that Radar was supposed to be a
>draftee, but his ID number began w/ RA, like he had enlisted. Anyone
else
>have any other bloopers?
>
> Cindy
>
I don't know if this counts, but I remember seeing an episode where they
were being shelled and the roof was falling in on them while they were
trying to perform surgery. At one point Frank came running over to B.J.
and said, "What can I do? How can I help?" It seemed out of character
for the character.
Shannon
David Margerison
SWU...@prodigy.com (Cynthia Ross) wrote:
> Hey folks!
> Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers. I only
>remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
If you wish to count this as a blooper:
In one of the earlier episodes Henry refers to his wife as Mildred,
then in latter episodes as Loraine.
I failed to see him getting remarried in the interim....:-)
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In article <32C88E...@worldnet.att.net>, Workin...@worldnet.att.net
writes:
> I remember at least one reference to his
>mother and, I believe, a sister.
Yeah, it was in a letter he was writing to his father. He writes: "Send
my love to Mom and sis".
Rubix7
Shannon Creamer wrote:
>
> SWU...@prodigy.com (Cynthia Ross) wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey folks!
> > Got chatting w/ a friend of mine about M*A*S*H bloopers. I only
>
> >remember two <three if you count the fact Radar would never have been
> >ones I remember are the problems with the "point" system of rotation. 1)
>
> >It was discontinued before the Korean conflict and 2) It was never used
>
> >for medical personal to begin with and that Radar was supposed to be a
> >draftee, but his ID number began w/ RA, like he had enlisted. Anyone
> else
> >have any other bloopers?
> >
> > Cindy
> >
>
> I don't know if this counts, but I remember seeing an episode where they
> were being shelled and the roof was falling in on them while they were
> trying to perform surgery. At one point Frank came running over to B.J.
> and said, "What can I do? How can I help?" It seemed out of character
> for the character.
>
> Shannon
charges of mutiny. That was his version of what happened. He was a great
guy and everyone else was scared.
Susan C. Mitchell
Workin...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
: snip
: >
: > There are several inconsistancies throughout the series. After all 11
: > 1/2 years is a long time to be perfect.
: snip
: Speaking of inconsistancies:
: How about Hawkeye being from Vermont at the beginning? Also, in the
: earlier M*A*S*H episodes I remember at least one reference to his
: mother and, I believe, a sister. Later, Hawk was an only child -- and
: his mother had died by the time he was 12. Remember the episode when
: Radar's Mom had started dating -- and Radar was jealous? Hawkeye was
: explaining to Radar that he had experienced the same feelings.
I've always wondered a little bit about an episode where Charles talks
about his family's summer home at Hyannis Port, and mentions the annoying
family who played "a perpetual game of touch football in their front
yard." I suspect that Charles, and all of the Winchesters, might have
been willing to temper their annoyance just a little bit, in this
specific case; after all, this is the *Ambassador's* family he's talking
about, even if the Ambassador did get his start smuggling alcoholic
beverages during Prohibition.
It's a little off-topic from this particular thread, but I was
occasionally frustrated when the writers would introduce *emotional*
anachronisms. And let me state right here and now that the term "PC", as
used by conservatives who raise that cry whenever they're requested to be
minimally polite, gives me hives. But the writers seemed to have trouble
dealing with the idea that the show did after all take place in the early
1950s! There was this recurring thread of Hawkeye as frustrated naturist,
always reading "nudist magazines." The writers were caught between the
need to give Frank something "disgusting" to rail at, and Alan Alda's
reluctance to give his character an interest (such as *nudie* magazines)
that would clash with his own 1970s feminist-male sympathies. Similarly,
in the episode where a Korean-American infant is abandoned outside the
Swamp, BJ hears her crying, turns over and mutters sleepily, "Peg, it's
your turn to take care of Erin." A man of that era would have taken it as
a matter of course that it was *always* his wife's turn to take care of a
crying baby; but the writers had to, in essence, write 1970s characters
into a 1950s setting.
Think globally, act locally.
Susan
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Shannon Creamer
Rubix7 <Rub...@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>Shannon Creamer wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know if this counts, but I remember seeing an episode where
they
>> were being shelled and the roof was falling in on them while they
were
>> trying to perform surgery. At one point Frank came running over to B.
J.
>> and said, "What can I do? How can I help?" It seemed out of
character
>> for the character.
>>
>> Shannon
>That might have been the episode where Frank brought Hawkeye up on
>charges of mutiny. That was his version of what happened. He was a
great
>guy and everyone else was scared.
I didn't see the whole of the episode, so that must be it--I knew there
had to be a reason for it! :-)
Shannon
Matthew J. Farrenkopf
In alt.tv.mash Workin...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
: How about Hawkeye being from Vermont at the beginning? Also, in the
: earlier M*A*S*H episodes I remember at least one reference to his
: mother and, I believe, a sister. Later, Hawk was an only child -- and
: his mother had died by the time he was 12. Remember the episode when
: Radar's Mom had started dating -- and Radar was jealous? Hawkeye was
: explaining to Radar that he had experienced the same feelings.
If that's the episode I'm thinking of, Hawkeye's saying that he was jealous
about his father dating. His father needed Hawkeye's approval so much that
he didn't marry the lady. He had been alone ever since. "And lonliness is
everything it's cracked up to be."
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MTG13
Another mess up in M*A*S*H is when Harry Morgan, Colonel Potter, appeared
in an earlier episode(during the third season) as Major General Bartford
Hamilton, as a crazy Major. And then later on in the beginning of the
Forth Season he apperead as Colonel Potter, a top notch Regular Army
Surgeon.
Thanks,
Tania
Elsig
Harry Morgan appearing as two different "mess ups," Tania.
We knew what we were doing.
It's called show business.
Larry
Caralyn4
Here's one! On the Marilyn Monroe/BJ Cuts the Rope episode, Hawkeye calls
Hollywood to try to speak to her. After identifying himself as "a friend
of Mr. Dimaggio's...Ted Williams" he is asked what his greatest thrill in
sports was. His answer is (paraphrased): just being able to stand in
front of the fans out there in left field. His answer clearly exposes him
as a fraud and so, scrambling, he says "Centerfield! Right field!" before
being hung up on. Subsequently Winchester says something like "I thought
you knew all those mindless/trivial things." Here's the problem: Ted
Williams DID play left field!
Trevor Song
something I guess some of you don't know now that someone mentioned Col
Potter coming in:
The late actor McLean Stevenson (Lt Col. Blake) was doing his last
appearance on the show. And of course... everyone was satisfyed to see
him leave and etc. Larry Linville said on a talk show that when the
actors read the script, they thought that that was the end of the
show... until the writers found a missing page of the script. The actors
read the missing part.... and they were stunned. I really don't know
about poor old McLean Stevenson thought... but it was shocking enough to
just have them continue on with the dramatic ending. This is not a
blopper... but I figured it was worth writing about since someone
mentioned Col Potter's enterance to MASH. =]
Trevor Song
george hiebert wrote:
>
> How about when it's supposed to be the dead of winter there are green
> leaves on all the trees.
Good question =]
george hiebert
DJ Ryan
How about the fact that Godzilla is mentioned many times during the show's
run("Khaki Godzilla, Godzilla meets the Bobbi Soxer, etc.), yet the first
Godzilla movie wasn't made until 1954?
MrQuixote
Subject: Re: M*A*S*H bloopers?
From: Trevor Song <Shar...@usa.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:55:40 -0800
Message-ID: <32DACB...@usa.net>
MTG13 wrote:
>
> Another mess up in M*A*S*H is when Harry Morgan, Colonel Potter,
appeared
> in an earlier episode(during the third season) as Major General Bartford
> Hamilton, as a crazy Major. And then later on in the beginning of the
> Forth Season he apperead as Colonel Potter, a top notch Regular Army
> Surgeon.
> Thanks,
> Tania
>
AND THEN THIS RESPONSE TO TANIA WAS POSTED:
"""I really don't think that really is a blopper... but here is a little
something I guess some of you don't know now that someone mentioned Col
Potter coming in:
The late actor McLean Stevenson (Lt Col. Blake) was doing his last
appearance on the show. And of course... everyone was satisfyed to see
him leave and etc. Larry Linville said on a talk show that when the
actors read the script, they thought that that was the end of the
show... until the writers found a missing page of the script. The actors
read the missing part.... and they were stunned. I really don't know
about poor old McLean Stevenson thought... but it was shocking enough to
just have them continue on with the dramatic ending. This is not a
blopper... but I figured it was worth writing about since someone
mentioned Col Potter's enterance to MASH. ""
I've seen some cockeyed stories about what supposedly happened with MASH
episodes, but this one takes the K-rations. "The writers FOUND a missing
page of the script?" C'mon. If you're smart enough to watch MASH, you're
too smart to believe something like that for a millisecond.
Here are the facts: Larry Gelbart and Gene Reynolds had determined that
since McLean was leaving the show, they could make a major point about
what really happens in war by having him killed. However, they didn't
want all the actors playing that episode with the knowledge in their heads
that Col. Blake was going to die rather than just go home. So they
withheld the final page of the script, which is the scene written by Larry
where Radar comes into the OR to say that Blake's plane was shot down and
he had been killed.
Gelbart was directing that episode. Toward the end of the final day, he
called the cast together and handed out the last page. According to
Larry, everyone was shocked, "no one moreso than McLean."
Mac spent the next several hours in his dressing room, crying. He was
still uncertain as to whether he had made the right choice in leaving the
show. He never did show up at the wrap party.
By the way, the notion that the creator of "MASH Bloppers" seems to have
is that McLean was disliked and the cast was glad to see him go. That,
too, is erroneous. And if you had heard what folks said about Mac at the
memorial service held for him, you'd understand that nothing could be
farther from the truth.
My sources for the above are personal conversations with Larry Gelbart,
Gene Reynolds, McLean Stevenson and Gary Burghoff.
Michael Hirsh
Elsig
MrQuixote, as usual, has given the <exact> and <accurate> account of the
events surrounding the episode, "Abyssinina, Henry" in which Henry Blake's
character died.
If Mr Q tells you anything about the series, you know you are getting the
straight information.
Best,
Larry
Trevor Song
Trevor Song
OK... lemme get stright down to the point with you.
I accept your story. However, I believe the missing page of the script.
Yes I am smart enough to watch MASH. I have watched it for 3 years and I
know just about every single epsiode. Don't try to make me look stupid
in from of this newsgroup. What do you mean by this?
If you're smart enough to watch MASH, you're
too smart to believe something like that for a millisecond.
You are just about the most ignorant person I have met so far in any
other newsgroup. Since you can't accept what others belive in, I suggest
for you to go jump in the lake.
ROGER P. PIZIO
The episode were Hawkeye invades the peace talks and they end up throwing him an all
red/anti-green party has an ancronism in it. Prior to his leaving to jump start teh
peace talks he is considering ways to dress up the uniform and suggest a red alligator
on the pocket. Could anything be more 70's?
Scott
ALatt
This is about Harry Morgan appearing as another character before appearing
as Potter. I am guessing (and of course I could be wrong) that he was used
as a guest cast for his first appearance, and when it came time to cast
the replacement for Blake, they remembered Morgan and brought him back as
another character. It happens all the time on tv.
CATSPE
al...@aol.com wrote:
As I recall, Harry Morgan appearing in "The General Flipped At Dawn" did
have at least a little to do with him being chosen to play Potter. On a
similar note, I read somewhere that David Ogden Stiers was chosen to play
Winchester after the producers saw him on The Mary Tyler Moore Show
playing a station manager with a similar superior attitude to
Winchester's.
One of my favorite moments from the 20th anniversary special was the
outtake they showed of "The General Flipped At Dawn" being filmed. It was
the scene where General Steele was reviewing the formation and he asked
Radar where he was from and before Radar could answer, Steele yelled at
him for talking. As soon as Harry Morgan moved on to the next person,
Stevenson and Burghoff burst out laughing. One of the two (I don't
remember which) said that it was because they had this image going into
the filming of the episode of Harry Morgan as this great dramatic actor
and that seeing him play a loony general was cracking them up. I think
they said it took close to 20 takes before Stevenson and Burghoff could do
the scene straight-faced.