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ncrdbl1

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Feb 3, 2009, 12:45:45 AM2/3/09
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I was watching the pilot and began to thinking. I wonder how long it
would take in today's society for the demands for Wayne Rogers to be
fired if the show debuted today. What was an innocent joke about
selling spearchucker to pay for Ho Jon's college would have been taken
seriously and he would have been attacked from all sides. Could they
have even gotten away with a character named spearchucker in today's
society?

Hallie Hearn

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Feb 3, 2009, 7:28:24 PM2/3/09
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I've often wondered about the episode with Mary Wickes, where Hawkeye
and Trapper talk so glibly about the "rape"... something like "oh boy,
first a movie, now a rape - I've never been to a rape before." I'm
surprised that passed even in the 1970's!

Hallie

Eddie

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Feb 3, 2009, 11:37:58 PM2/3/09
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"Hallie Hearn" <Hallie...@alumni.wfu.edu> wrote in message

> I've often wondered about the episode with Mary Wickes, where Hawkeye and
> Trapper talk so glibly about the "rape"... something like "oh boy, first a
> movie, now a rape - I've never been to a rape before." I'm surprised that
> passed even in the 1970's!
>
> Hallie

Lots of lines surprisingly made it to air.
Hawkeye - "Behind every good man is a woman with a vibrator."

Frank - "Oh, Margaret. You're my Snug Harbor. I don't know what I'd do if
Ididn't have you to sail into."

Hawkeye on Radar's tray with mashed potatoes - "Three mounds?
Trapper - "I wish you were talking about a nurse."

Margaret - "A date with Major Burns? I've no date with Major Burns. Oh, we
run into each other once in a while..."
Radar - "Well he can't run into you tonight."

Hawkeye wanted to run into a nurse... "repeatedly."

However, there are great regrets for rape jokes.


Eddie

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Feb 3, 2009, 11:29:56 PM2/3/09
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"ncrdbl1" <mphsr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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If MASH debuted today, I don't think there would be any demands made towards
Rogers. Trapper spoke the line, not Rogers and any demands or anger would be
directed at CBS. Going on 37 consecutive years on TV has provided thousands
of opportunities to date to watch the Pilot and if there was a problem with
that joke, we would have heard about it. There is no other implication to
that, no other reference to anything other that what it is... just a way to
get money for Ho Jon, and it was a only joke delivered with a comedic tone
in a comedic scene on a sitcom. That joke would have been written the exact
same way had it been Frank or CEW instead of Spearchucker and that's how
it's percieved, even today.
Didn't Bill Cosby buy the Little Rascals to keep it off the air?

And no, I doubt the name, "Spearchucker" would be used today.


Maciej Bojko

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Feb 4, 2009, 6:41:52 AM2/4/09
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:45:45 -0800 (PST), ncrdbl1 <mphsr...@aol.com>
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Did anyone demanded that Danny Masterson from "That 70s show" should
be fired, after Hyde suggested "peddling Fez's ass for booze" (or sth
like that)?

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Martin Mose Larsen

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Feb 4, 2009, 4:33:52 PM2/4/09
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:37:58 -0500, "Eddie" <Pba...@aol.com> wrote:

>Hawkeye on Radar's tray with mashed potatoes - "Three mounds?
>Trapper - "I wish you were talking about a nurse."
>

Hawkeye and Trapper talking about a patients wounds:
Hawkeye or Trapper: "Multiple chest"
The other one respond with something like: "I wish you were talking
about a nurse."

Same line twice. Iirc it was Trapper here as well (As in: not BJ)

sayonara
Martin Mose Larsen

George

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Feb 5, 2009, 8:41:02 PM2/5/09
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:29:56 -0500, Eddie wrote:

> Didn't Bill Cosby buy the Little Rascals to keep it off the air?

Is that true?

Eddie

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:23:07 PM2/5/09
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"George" <ge...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:29:56 -0500, Eddie wrote:
>
>> Didn't Bill Cosby buy the Little Rascals to keep it off the air?
>
> Is that true?

Maybe, maybe not. I can't remember where I heard it. That's why I asked
about it.

Vince

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:44:27 PM2/5/09
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"George" <ge...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:29:56 -0500, Eddie wrote:
>
>> Didn't Bill Cosby buy the Little Rascals to keep it off the air?
>
> Is that true?
>
>

Well they've been back for some years


Vince

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:45:36 PM2/5/09
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"Eddie" <Pba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Anyway what would be Dr Cosby's point unless he has a problem with
Buckwheat?


Paul Gadzikowski

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Feb 6, 2009, 10:25:07 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 2, 11:45 pm, ncrdbl1 <mphsric...@aol.com> wrote:
> Could they
> have even gotten away with a character named spearchucker in today's
> society?

I doubt it. Even at the time the closest they ever came in the tv
version to using Father Mulcahy's nickname Dago Red was one very early
first season episode when Hawkeye called him Red.

I think all the time about all the drinking jokes in M*A*S*H, and how
normal drinking jokes were till about that time, and how you never see
drinking jokes in sitcoms any more. Even in those days, as Ed Asner
observed when he moved from THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW to LOU GRANT,
you could be drunk in sitcoms but not in dramas.


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Maciej Bojko

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Feb 6, 2009, 6:53:49 PM2/6/09
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:25:07 -0800 (PST), Paul Gadzikowski
<scar...@iglou.com> wrote:

>> Could they
>> have even gotten away with a character named spearchucker in today's
>> society?
>
>I doubt it. Even at the time the closest they ever came in the tv
>version to using Father Mulcahy's nickname Dago Red was one very early
>first season episode when Hawkeye called him Red.
>
>I think all the time about all the drinking jokes in M*A*S*H, and how
>normal drinking jokes were till about that time, and how you never see
>drinking jokes in sitcoms any more.

Don't I? Oh my. I just saw a rerun of the episode of "How I met your
mother", where Ted got drunk and had a butterfly tattooed couple inch
above his butt. I guess it was some sort of hallucination. As well as
numberless scenes of "That 70s show" with underage drinking (not to
mention smoking pot).
Really. Sometimes I wonder, if people who say "they wouldn't allow
this today" actually watch today's TV and/or movies.

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Paul Gadzikowski

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Feb 13, 2009, 10:43:19 AM2/13/09
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On Feb 6, 5:53 pm, Maciej Bojko <maciej.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:25:07 -0800 (PST), Paul Gadzikowski
> >I think all the time about all the drinking jokes in M*A*S*H, and how
> >normal drinking jokes were till about that time, and how you never see
> >drinking jokes in sitcoms any more.
>
> Don't I? Oh my. I just saw a rerun of the episode of "How I met your
> mother", where Ted got drunk and had a butterfly tattooed couple inch
> above his butt. I guess it was some sort of hallucination. As well as
> numberless scenes of "That 70s show" with underage drinking (not to
> mention smoking pot).
> Really. Sometimes I wonder, if people who say "they wouldn't allow
> this today" actually watch today's TV and/or movies.

I stand corrected. Still, the tone is different. On 'How I Met Your
Mother' drinking isn't treated as the desirable, pervasive thing it
was on M*A*S*H. Sure, the gang's hangout place is a bar, but try to
imagine the reaction of Network Standards and Practices to Ted waking
up in the morning and saying, "My kidneys were expecting orange juice.
Silly kidneys." Part of that's the characters' different situations -
Ted and Barney don't live two miles from the front - but part of
that's the diference in societal attitude on this side of history from
the founding of MADD.

"So, bravely, I gave up."

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