Most Hated MASH Episodes
Lance Holbert
I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
"Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
Ronald Kitchell
I don't particularly like that one where Hawk and Trap get Frank to stay
by telling him there's gold in the camp. I've read Larry Gelbert didn't
like it much either and he wrote it!
Ron
David Vincent Halpern
Abigail (abi...@fnx.com) wrote:
:
: Hawkeyes monologue after his accident, and 'Lend me a Hand' with
Accident? PLEASE don't tell me you're talking about the one where he gets
blinded...that's a great episode!
-David
Abigail
Lance Holbert (LHol...@questdiagnostics.com) wrote on 1652 September
1993 in <URL: news:01bd4c4d$bfe52460$1ef01e9c@lholbert>:
++ I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
++ episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
++ "Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
Hawkeyes monologue after his accident, and 'Lend me a Hand' with
Alda's father and brother.
Abigail
Peter J. Koenig
On 10 Mar 1998 17:55:56 GMT, "Lance Holbert"
<LHol...@questdiagnostics.com> wrote:
>I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
>episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
>"Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
>
Inga's ok. The monologue even grew on me eventually. I have to
go after the later seasons:
- Hawkeye's sneezing fit. ("He PUSHED me! Waaaaaahhhh!")
- The visiting USO troupe
- Margaret's rash on her butt
Peter Koenig
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ramji
Definitely the monologue and the episode where Hawkeye and the Korean Army
officer argue/fight over a woman Guerilla Fighter
Abigail
David Vincent Halpern (dha...@curly.cc.emory.edu) wrote on 1653
September 1993 in <URL: news:6e55c7$3...@curly.cc.emory.edu>:
++ Abigail (abi...@fnx.com) wrote:
++ :
++ : Hawkeyes monologue after his accident, and 'Lend me a Hand' with
++
++
++ Accident? PLEASE don't tell me you're talking about the one where he gets
++ blinded...that's a great episode!
No. I'm talking about the monologue lasting the entire episode
after he crashes his jeep.
Abigail
ally...@aol.com
In article <01bd4c4d$bfe52460$1ef01e9c@lholbert>,
"Lance Holbert" <LHol...@questdiagnostics.com> wrote:
>
> I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
>
the life of me I can't remember which one it was. However, I will say that I
disliked a good deal of the shows in the last couple of seasons. I think the
show took a nose dive once Radar left. But there were a few gems in that time.
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Krazykat72
i liked fred c dobbs
even though it was pretty goofy
the physical humour in it was amusing enough
a classic, no
but i dont think Mr. Gelbart should be ashamed of it
Gene Johannsen
abi...@fnx.com (Abigail) writes:
I can actually watch that one, though it's not the one I reach for
when I'm in a MASH mood.
gene
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Gene Johannsen
"Lance Holbert" <LHol...@questdiagnostics.com> writes:
| I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
| episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
| "Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
|
Well, I've posted this before and I'll say it again, I hate the
episode where the Hawkeye and BJ take on the chopper pilot who
turns army shrapnel into kitch. They try to pin the majority
of the pain and suffering they see on this one chopper pilot,
while in actuality this chopper pilot provides a good source of
income for these very poor people. Korean kids have to go into
the battle fields to find the shrapnel they sell to the pilot,
where they can be wounded or killed, but what about the
alternatives? Sure it's dangerous, and in a perfect world kids
would never have to do anything like that, but considering the
kids could be sold into slavery, or turned into prostitutes, or
killed by their families because they can't feed them, or
starved to death, this pilot is actually doing a very good
thing.
BJ and Hawkeye literally throw every trick in the book at this
guy, even embracing the authority they so often hate.
Oh the hypocrisy. A very poor episode.
gene
Steve
The one that comes to my mind first is the episode where Hawkeye keeps
sneezing all through it. It just sounded too phony to me. When I read that
Alan Alda came up with the story line because he could do a great fake
sneeze, that made it even worse.
Steve
Pkeller242
>>episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
>>"Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
>>
Off the top of my head, the two shows I CAN'T watch over and over are Hawkeye's
monologue and the one shown from the point of view of the wounded soldier.
There's just something about listening to him breath and gag that makes me gag.
TrapperJXM
I never much liked the one where the Korean baby was left on the "doorstep" of
the Swamp.....again..a later episode...
TrapperJXM
MrQuixote
I'm curious. Several people indicate that they really dislike the fourth
season episode titled "Hawkeye." It's the one where Hawk is in a jeep accident
and winds up in a Korean hut where no one speaks English. IN order to avoid
losing consciousness, he does a monologue...which included a description of the
miracle that is the human hand.
The episode was nominated for an Emmy for episodic comedy writing. Personally,
I really like it. Consider the challenge it was to sustain a monologue on
American TV for 23 minutes. With no audience to give you feedback.
So tell me, what is it about that episode that you folks dislike so much?
Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "Dreams," as a least favorite.
I'll confess that I can appreciate it more now than I could when it first
aired. At that time but it seemed to me to be a tacit admission that the show
had run out of stories and had reached the "anything goes" point. After all,
that was more a Twilight Zone than a M*A*S*H.
MH
Abigail
MrQuixote (mrqu...@aol.com) wrote on 1654 September 1993 in
<URL: news:19980312073...@ladder03.news.aol.com>:
++
++ The episode was nominated for an Emmy for episodic comedy writing. Personally
++ I really like it. Consider the challenge it was to sustain a monologue on
++ American TV for 23 minutes. With no audience to give you feedback.
For me, M*A*S*H is much more than a comedy. Were it just a comedy,
I wouldn't have cared so much about it. But the power of M*A*S*H is
the fast shifting from funny to something else. One of the characters
feeling lonely. Cruelties of war. The needlessness of it. The sillyness
of the army.
++ So tell me, what is it about that episode that you folks dislike so much?
Easy: it doesn't trigger any emotion. No smile, no drama, nothing.
Abigail
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
ramji (ra...@prodigy.net) wrote:
: Definitely the monologue and the episode where Hawkeye and the Korean Army
: officer argue/fight over a woman Guerilla Fighter
Oh no, "Guerilla My Dreams" was one of the triumphs of the later seasons.
It was one of the few episodes from season 8 or after when they allowed
our heroes to fail.
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TrapperJXM (trapp...@aol.com) wrote:
: I never much liked the one where the Korean baby was left on the "doorstep" of
: the Swamp.....again..a later episode...
Yes, but - again - one of the few later episodes when it was shown that no
one, not even Hawkeye Pierce, wins >all< the time.
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
MrQuixote (mrqu...@aol.com) wrote:
: So tell me, what is it about that episode that you folks dislike so much?
I can't answer that. I >memorized< that episode when I was seventeen.
: Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "Dreams," as a least favorite.
: I'll confess that I can appreciate it more now than I could when it first
: aired. At that time but it seemed to me to be a tacit admission that the show
: had run out of stories and had reached the "anything goes" point. After all,
: that was more a Twilight Zone than a M*A*S*H.
At that time it seemed to me that Metcalfe and Alda were trying to stretch
the sitcom format to where no one had gone before ... I didn't decide
until "Wheelers and Dealers" that they had run out of ideas. "This series
is >set< in the 50s, it wasn't >made< then," was my comment.
Vernon Rochon
Actually, it's one of my personal favorites. It underscores the
potentially lethal consequences of a head injury. It also illustrates
Hawkeye's recognition of the danger (despite having just gotten clocked),
his ingenuity in finding so many things to talk about during his
"stay-awake" tactic and his determination to hang tough.
Creatively, it was an amazing exhibition of writing and acting. Think a
20+ minute soliloquy is easy? Try it sometime.
So some people didn't like it. They're entitled, I suppose.
Vern R
MrQuixote <mrqu...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980312073...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> I'm curious. Several people indicate that they really dislike the fourth
> season episode titled "Hawkeye."
> So tell me, what is it about that episode that you folks dislike so much?
>
> MH
>
SRICAL
There are a handful (primarily from the later seasons):
1. Temporary Duty -- George "Goober" Lindsey as a surgeon? Why not Rip Taylor.
Assinine.
2. War Co-Respondent -- why was it that every episode Mike Farrel wrote was
about BJ having an affair or being tempted?
3. Father's Day -- one of the worst. After years of insisting that "Howitzer"
Al Hoolihan is dead, they dig up an actor who seems to be in the same condition
to portray him. Very tough to sit through.
4. Taking the Fifth -- by this point (season nine), Capt. B.F. Pierce was
close to being "Saint Hawkeye of Crabapple Cove." Having him act like such a
lech is not only weak, but made little sense. Might have worked in the first
couple of years, but the writing is too weak to be sure.
5. Depressing News -- the Korean tongue depresser obolisk. Pointless.
6. That's Show Biz -- an HOUR to show us a USO troop? Absolutely the worst
episode ever, pointless and thouroughly unfunny.
7. Heros -- BORING
8. Bombshells -- Marylin at the 4077th? Forgive my lack of historical
perspective, but was she that big a star in 1951?
9. The Moon is not Blue -- They'd already done the movie thing to death (often
with spectacular results, such as when they watched My Darling Clementine).
This was just going to the well too often.
Basically the last two or three seasons should have been condensed down to a
single good one; they were pretty much out of ideas by that time and the show
was becoming very predictable. However, my biggest question of all time
remains: What happened to Col. Potter's family (and horse), that resulted in
wholesale sex changes? His son became a daughter, his granddaughter a grandson,
and his horse a mare. Any ideas?
Dr. Dave
Krazykat72
i agree that most of those eps ere not at their finest
but i liked depressing news
it actually seemed inspired compared to many of the later eps
Abigail
SRICAL (sri...@aol.com) wrote on 1654 September 1993 in
<URL: news:19980312174...@ladder03.news.aol.com>:
++ There are a handful (primarily from the later seasons):
++
++ 2. War Co-Respondent -- why was it that every episode Mike Farrel wrote was
++ about BJ having an affair or being tempted?
I disagree here. One of few episodes where BJ is actually bearable.
++ 6. That's Show Biz -- an HOUR to show us a USO troop? Absolutely the worst
++ episode ever, pointless and thouroughly unfunny.
Specially if you compare it with Showtime, the final episode of the
first season. MASH is also entertained then, but all the other story
lines make it a great episode. Each time I see it I get the feeling we
see a episode of an hour - but it's less than 25 minutes. Each story
line only gets a few minutes, yet they manage to tell so much. Henry
getting a baby, Trapper fighting for a patients life, Father Mulcahy
struggling with his role, Franks pranks and Hawkeye revenge.
Abigail
George Hiebert
From the early era,
Sticky Wicket, a patient goes sour on Hawkeye. I felt Hawk's ego went
overboard on this one. Too much the 'Hawkeye' show.
The one where Hawk dates a clutsy nurse. A pointless ep. Nothing to do
weith what mash is about.
Later era,
Love and War, Hawk is totally out of character.
The one where Charles falls for the French woman.
The one where the dutch-boy in the marines wants to go home to see his
mother or something. The so called humor is pathetic.
The one where Margaret and Klinger get stranded on her birthday. Totally
snoring.
ada...@webtv.net
I'm so surprised that so many people disliked the episode "Dreams". I
really liked it.
The episodes that I haven't seen mentioned as most hated were the ones
in the first season (I think) with the guy who was always singing and
playing the guitar. The one where all of the nurses bug out (sorry,
don't know the name of the ep.) and he sings about how much they miss
them comes to mind. I could never really understand the point of that
character.
I'm probably asking for it by admitting this, but I never really cared
much for Trapper John at all, so the first few seasons are really my
least favorite.
Shelley
Renee
>I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
>episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
>"Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
>
I'm going to have to join the camp of people who like the latter shows
better than the first three seasons. I mean, granted Alan Alda is a
major hottie in the earlier episodes but I think the writing is
tighter in the later shows. One after the other the lines shoot like
well-aimed arrows hitting their mark more often than not. It seems the
earlier shows are slightly unsure of their purpose. I know I'm in the
minority. It could be my age. And again I love Charles' lines. He's a
scream.
My least favorite show so far since I haven't even seen half of them
is probably the one where BJ gets all pissed off because no one
understands why he's so upset that his wife has to work in a coffee
shop. I'm like get over it.
Renee
Abigail
ada...@webtv.net (ada...@webtv.net) wrote on 1655 September 1993 in
<URL: news:6ec60l$8em$1...@newsd-143.iap.bryant.webtv.net>:
++ I'm so surprised that so many people disliked the episode "Dreams". I
++ really liked it.
++
++ The episodes that I haven't seen mentioned as most hated were the ones
++ in the first season (I think) with the guy who was always singing and
++ playing the guitar. The one where all of the nurses bug out (sorry,
++ don't know the name of the ep.) and he sings about how much they miss
++ them comes to mind. I could never really understand the point of that
++ character.
That would be Loudon Wainwright III, who appeared thrice in the third
season. "Rainbow bridge" (one of my favourite episodes), "Nothing like
a nurse" (the one you mentioned - a good episode in my opinion, with
Franks home movie) and "Big Mac", a classic.
I really like his voice, and I find it a pity he didn't appear more.
++ I'm probably asking for it by admitting this, but I never really cared
++ much for Trapper John at all, so the first few seasons are really my
++ least favorite.
Ah, looks like I'm opposite. I prefer the first 3 seasons, and
Trapper is my favourite character, with Henry as my second!
Abigail
PillsnerB
mrqu...@aol.com (MrQuixote) wrote:
>I'm curious. Several people indicate that they really dislike the fourth
>season episode titled "Hawkeye." It's the one where Hawk is in a jeep
>accident
>and winds up in a Korean hut where no one speaks English. IN order to avoid
>losing consciousness, he does a monologue...which included a description of
>the
>miracle that is the human hand.
>
>The episode was nominated for an Emmy for episodic comedy writing.
>Personally,
>I really like it. Consider the challenge it was to sustain a monologue on
>American TV for 23 minutes. With no audience to give you feedback.
>
>So tell me, what is it about that episode that you folks dislike so much?
I don't know what people dislike about this episode. I really liked it,
although I'm not sure I'd put it in my top ten MASHs. It seemed more like an
experiment than anything else. The monologue just wasn't that good.
However,
>
>Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "Dreams," as a least
>favorite.
> I'll confess that I can appreciate it more now than I could when it first
>aired. At that time but it seemed to me to be a tacit admission that the
>show
>had run out of stories and had reached the "anything goes" point. After all,
>that was more a Twilight Zone than a M*A*S*H.
>
>MH
>
Dreams is one of my all time favorite episodes of any sitcom. It was on in KC
last night. I don't see why you compare it to a twilight zone just because it
showed the MASHers having nightmares. IMHO, it really gave some insight to the
fears and worries that people in that situation could have had, especially
doctors who might feel like they can do it all. Father Mulcahey's brief
segment was a classic mixture of religion and war.
PillsnerB
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May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul.
PillsnerB
George Hiebert <George_...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
>The one where the dutch-boy in the marines wants to go home to see his
>mother or something. The so called humor is pathetic.
I was just about to write that this episode, called "Tell It To The Marines"
was my least favorite episode. Although I liked much of the later years, it
seems that some of the episodes, such as this one, got way too syrupy for
their own good. Also, the first half of "Blood Brothers" is pathetic. The
episode redeems itself by giving Patrick Swayze's character leukemia.
Steve
I'll probably remember his name as soon as I hit the SEND button, but the
singer guitar player was the one that did that ever-popular song "Dead Skunk
in the Middle of the Road". I guess someone on MASH owed him or his agent a
favor.
steve
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
Steve (see.a...@end.of.message) wrote:
: I'll probably remember his name as soon as I hit the SEND button, but the
: singer guitar player was the one that did that ever-popular song "Dead Skunk
: in the Middle of the Road". I guess someone on MASH owed him or his agent a
: favor.
Loudon Wainwright III.
Abigail
PillsnerB (pill...@aol.com) wrote on 1656 September 1993 in
<URL: news:19980314233...@ladder03.news.aol.com>:
++ George Hiebert <George_...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
++
++ >The one where the dutch-boy in the marines wants to go home to see his
++ >mother or something. The so called humor is pathetic.
++
++ I was just about to write that this episode, called "Tell It To The Marines"
++ was my least favorite episode. Although I liked much of the later years, it
++ seems that some of the episodes, such as this one, got way too syrupy for
++ their own good. Also, the first half of "Blood Brothers" is pathetic. The
++ episode redeems itself by giving Patrick Swayze's character leukemia.
Blood brothers is one of my favourite episodes. Not because of Patrick
Swayze, he's insignificant, but it's a great Mulcahy episode. And it's
one of the few episodes where Hawk is actually wrong about something.
Mulcahy's breakdown during the sermon is priceless.
Abigail
Sulofamily
I like both of the episodes. Mulcahy's sermon is priceless, because he
reminded us what God really wants from us. I also like Charles command
scenes they were funny.
Ann Sulo
Chuck
Well personally I think that this guy ws put there to make the show
kinda "hip". Being a folk singer in uniform and singing against the
war and hardships thereof.
What really made me dislike the early seasons was Frank Burns. I never
cared for the character. At first his attitudes were humerous, but
after a while his whining became monotonous.
Chuck
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:47:17 -0500, ada...@webtv.net wrote:
>The episodes that I haven't seen mentioned as most hated were the ones
>in the first season (I think) with the guy who was always singing and
>playing the guitar. The one where all of the nurses bug out (sorry,
>don't know the name of the ep.) and he sings about how much they miss
>them comes to mind. I could never really understand the point of that
>character.
tke...@socal.rr.com
> I'm curious. Several people indicate that they really dislike the fourth
> season episode titled "Hawkeye." It's the one where Hawk is in a jeep accident
> and winds up in a Korean hut where no one speaks English. IN order to avoid
> losing consciousness, he does a monologue...which included a description of the
> miracle that is the human hand.
>
> The episode was nominated for an Emmy for episodic comedy writing. Personally,
> I really like it. Consider the challenge it was to sustain a monologue on
> American TV for 23 minutes. With no audience to give you feedback.
>
> So tell me, what is it about that episode that you folks dislike so much?
>
> I'll confess that I can appreciate it more now than I could when it first
> aired. At that time but it seemed to me to be a tacit admission that the show
> had run out of stories and had reached the "anything goes" point. After all,
> that was more a Twilight Zone than a M*A*S*H.
>
> MH
Andy K.
On topic, I like both of these mentioned episodes. In "Hawkeye", Alda
really sold the idea of continuously increasing desperation and barely
controlled panic of a doctor who knows exactly what is happening to
him, but is unable to do anything about it other than trying to hold
out as long as possible.
And "Dreams" is interesting in that we get to see what secret fears and
insecurities, ones that they maybe do not admit to themselves, plague
each of the main characters. It has no humour bits in it (AFAIK), and
has almost horror qualities to it - perhaps that's why it's not very
popular. My favourite dream is probably Winchester's.
BR
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Will Dockery
>
> I'm so surprised that so many people disliked the episode "Dreams". I
> The episodes that I haven't seen mentioned as most hated were the ones
> in the first season (I think) with the guy who was always singing and
> playing the guitar. The one where all of the nurses bug out (sorry,
> don't know the name of the ep.) and he sings about how much they miss
> them comes to mind. I could never really understand the point of that
> character.
>
>
> Shelley
The folk singer Loudon Wainwright III was probably used to tie in with the theme song, which of course was originally a folk song with vocals.
https://mash.wikia.com/wiki/Loudon_Wainwright_III
prettyb...@gmail.com
> Well personally I think that this guy ws put there to make the show
> kinda "hip". Being a folk singer in uniform and singing against the
> war and hardships thereof.
>
> What really made me dislike the early seasons was Frank Burns. I never
> cared for the character. At first his attitudes were humerous, but
> after a while his whining became monotonous.
>
> Chuck
>
> On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:47:17 -0500, ada...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> >in the first season (I think) with the guy who was always singing and
> >playing the guitar. The one where all of the nurses bug out (sorry,
> >don't know the name of the ep.) and he sings about how much they miss
> >them comes to mind. I could never really understand the point of that
> >character.
prettyb...@gmail.com
> I know all of us in this group love MASH, but each of us dislikes certain
> episodes. I know I have to switch the channel every time the blasted
> "Inga" episode is on. Any one else want to share?
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