MASH and cigarettes
bde...@ftc-i.net
Stuart Margolin played a shrink Dr. Sherman. Uncharacteristically for
M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
cigarette in the mess tent. There was also an ashtray visible on the
table. Other episodes showed players with cigars but this is the only
instance of cigarette smoking I can recall. I have seen that before
but it hit me tonight how unusual it was. Am I nutz? Was this against
some unwritten rule otherwise followed on MASH? Were they just ahead
of the times? Just curious.
Bruce
Cory
says...
> cigarette.
<snip...>
> It has been a while since I have seen any of these episodes so thats why I lack
> the details and such. Thats all I got for now.
>
> Bryan
I had completely forgotten about all three of these instances. Thanks
for the memory jog.
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> Observation: On FX tonight the episode Crackers and Nutz was on and
> Stuart Margolin played a shrink Dr. Sherman. Uncharacteristically for
> M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
> cigarette in the mess tent. There was also an ashtray visible on the
> table. Other episodes showed players with cigars but this is the only
> instance of cigarette smoking I can recall. I have seen that before
> but it hit me tonight how unusual it was. Am I nutz? Was this against
> some unwritten rule otherwise followed on MASH? Were they just ahead
> of the times? Just curious.
> Bruce
Hawk lit a smoke in the ep about the rash of petty thefts.
CSX 700
>Stuart Margolin played a shrink Dr. Sherman. Uncharacteristically for
>M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
>cigarette in the mess tent. There was also an ashtray visible on the
>table. Other episodes showed players with cigars but this is the only
>instance of cigarette smoking I can recall. I have seen that before
>but it hit me tonight how unusual it was. Am I nutz? Was this against
>some unwritten rule otherwise followed on MASH? Were they just ahead
>of the times? Just curious.
>Bruce
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I dunno, but I have seen 3 episodes where there someone was smoking a
cigarette. I don't know the episode names, but one of them was when Hawkeye was
doing an investigation about some stuff that had come up missing and he had
called everybody into the mes tent late at night and was trying to act like a
detective and lit a cigarette. There was an episode that had Radar light up a
cig while they were doing some kind of diversion of some crap. The last one I
can remember showed nurse Kelly over in the officers club and she was smoking.
Brad
Other episodes showed players with cigars but this is the
> only
> instance of cigarette smoking I can recall. I have seen that before
> but it hit me tonight how unusual it was. Am I nutz?
No. You're not nutz. Off the top of my memory. Kelly, is seen with a
cigarette in 'Captains Outrageous', Hawkeye in 'I Hate A Mystery' and
Igor in 'Soldier Of The Month'.
Was this
> against
> some unwritten rule otherwise followed on MASH? Were they just
> ahead
> of the times? Just curious.
I've noticed this on a lot of sitcoms. The anti-smoking campaigns seem
to think that it's acceptable for a character to smoke a cigar, but not
a cigarette. Kramer made cigar smoking 'acceptable' in Seinfeld, but if
it had've been a cigarette all heck would have broken loose. The only
other times you see it is when a character is heroically giving up.
You'd think they would have been more flexible in the 70s with M*A*S*H.
Perhaps they did research that suggested more American soldiers smoked
cigars.
Brad
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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: bde...@ftc-i.net wrote:
: > Observation: On FX tonight the episode Crackers and Nutz was on and
: > Stuart Margolin played a shrink Dr. Sherman. Uncharacteristically for
: > M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
: > cigarette in the mess tent. There was also an ashtray visible on the
: > instance of cigarette smoking I can recall. I have seen that before
: > some unwritten rule otherwise followed on MASH? Were they just ahead
: > of the times? Just curious.
: Hawk lit a smoke in the ep about the rash of petty thefts.
And Radar, in "A Smattering of Intelligence":
PRATT: Is that the signal?
HAWKEYE: Either that, or Marlena Deitrich is back in town.
M*A*S*H wasn't so ahead of the times for the 70s. I recall a constant
barrage of Ad Council counterpropaganda about smoking during kids'
afternoon programming at the time and for years earlier. If M*A*S*H was
ahead of any times, it was ahead of the 50s when, realistically, most or
all the characters would have had the habit.
If you want ahead-of-the-times, compare the number of cigarettes lit up
per episode on GET SMART with the number on STAR TREK.
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Paul Gadzikowski, scar...@iglou.com
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straight lines." Peter S. Beagle, _The Last Unicorn_
Genna Reeney
| George Hiebert wrote:
| : bde...@ftc-i.net wrote:
| : > Uncharacteristically for
| : > M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
| : > cigarette in the mess tent.
|
| And Radar, in "A Smattering of Intelligence":
|
constant
| barrage of Ad Council counterpropaganda about smoking during kids'
| afternoon programming at the time and for years earlier.
When was smoking advertising banned on TV?
| If you want ahead-of-the-times, compare the number of cigarettes lit
up
| per episode on GET SMART with the number on STAR TREK.
LOL
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Genna
Nancy Temple
for it. I think he even caused a fire in a laundry bin that was sitting
there.
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> Observation: On FX tonight the episode Crackers and Nutz was on and
> Stuart Margolin played a shrink Dr. Sherman. Uncharacteristically for
> M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
Elsig
trying to send any message to anyone - plus the fact that many of the cast did
smoke - they just weren't written into the scripts all that often.
LG
Brad
Brad
GADZIKOWSKI) wrote:
> And Radar, in "A Smattering of Intelligence"
I think that was a cigar. A short one. Also, Frank Burns has a pipe in
'White Gold'.
Abigail
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:3805153d...@news.infoave.net>:
++ Observation: On FX tonight the episode Crackers and Nutz was on and
++ Stuart Margolin played a shrink Dr. Sherman. Uncharacteristically for
++ M*A*S*H (to me) a character (Dr. Sherman) was seen smoking a
++ cigarette in the mess tent. There was also an ashtray visible on the
++ table. Other episodes showed players with cigars but this is the only
++ instance of cigarette smoking I can recall. I have seen that before
++ but it hit me tonight how unusual it was. Am I nutz? Was this against
++ some unwritten rule otherwise followed on MASH? Were they just ahead
++ of the times? Just curious.
Hawk smoked a cigarette in `I hate a mysterie'.
Abigail
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bde...@ftc-i.net
difficult to shoot continuity wise. Freshly lit one sec; almost burned
up the next or vice verse. Still seemed unusual to see that one
instance. Looking back, I can see there were a couple of incidental
instances and an occasional dramatic one as well.
Bruce..
Others were ; etc. On 14 Oct 1999 17:48:58 GMT, el...@aol.com (Elsig)
wrote:
SptmbrWind
>they each had so many minutes and put them together. But they went outside
>and lit a cigarette.
I thought that was a cigar.
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>they each had so many minutes and put them together. But they went outside
>and lit a cigarette.
>
Actually that was a cigar. Trapper and a nurse both came out of OR, he lit a
cigar she said something then asked her if she wanted a puff and she took it.
He then asked her how long she was out. She said 10 minutes and then he said he
had 10 minutes and together that gives us 20 . Thats not how it went word for
word, but close atleast.
Bryan
Elsig
>> smoke
>
Typo. I meant to say did <not> smoke.
Larry Linville is the only one I remember who smoked.
LG
Elsig
>
>I think that was a cigar.
It was a cigarette.
LG
Amy Burke
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Elsig <el...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Malene Hald
>| You're right. I just watched this episode a couple of weeks ago. It
>is the
>| only episode I remember Hawkeye _using: his captain rank. The
>soldier played
>| tough, and said something like "Hey, I'm a sergeant", and Hawk said
>"Well,
>| hey, I'm a captain, and you're not allowed to smoke in here".
>| When you think about how little Hawk cared about ranks, so...
>
>The next line is the one that has the real punch
>Sergeant: "Hey, I'm a sergeant, fellow!"
>Hawkeye:"And I'm a captain, fellow. Which means that if we blow up,
>I'll fly higher than you."
>
>--
>Genna
>
>
That's right! My memory isn't good for exact qoutes (especiallu because
English isn't my mother tounge)
Malene
Bill Kinkaid
>>> And Radar, in "A Smattering of Intelligence"
>>
>>I think that was a cigar.
>
>It was a cigarette.
>
At least once, Radar was caught sitting at Colonel Blake's desk smoking one
of his cigars. Likewise Klinger with Colonel Potter's (I think when Potter
was phoning from Tokyo).
Bill in Vancouver
too old to be walking around with no shoes,
and too young to be walking around with no teeth
