Blake Vs. Potter: Who Had Higher Rank?
Gumbo ...
Hallmark with Henry Blake and watching the later seasons on Fox at
night with Sherman Potter. Now I know Sherman Potter was regular Army
but he was always addressed at Colonel Potter. Henry Blake was just a
regular Doctor but was addressed as Lieutenant Colonel Henry Blake.
Was Potter just a regular Colonel and Blake was a higher ranking
Colonel cause he was a Lieutenant Colonel or was Potter a full
Colonel?
I looked up the definition online of Colonel and this is what was
listed...
Abbr. COL or Col or Col. A commissioned rank in the U.S. Army, Air
Force, or Marine Corps that is above lieutenant colonel and below
brigadier general.
So by this definition... Is it to be said the Henry Blake wasn't an
actual Colonel?
SaintMaryM
>but he was always addressed at Colonel Potter. Henry Blake was just a
>regular Doctor but was addressed as Lieutenant Colonel Henry Blake.
>
>Was Potter just a regular Colonel and Blake was a higher ranking
>Colonel cause he was a Lieutenant Colonel or was Potter a full
>Colonel?
No--in this case, Colonel outranks a Lt. Colonel. Potter was a full colonel.
>
>I looked up the definition online of Colonel and this is what was
>listed...
>
>Abbr. COL or Col or Col. A commissioned rank in the U.S. Army, Air
>Force, or Marine Corps that is above lieutenant colonel and below
>brigadier general.
>
>So by this definition... Is it to be said the Henry Blake wasn't an
>actual Colonel?
>
Henry was an actual Colonel, and it would not have been incorrect to refer to
him simply as Colonel Blake--adding the 'lieutenant' is a matter of preference
for some.
Other Army ranks where this happens:
Enlisteds have Private and Private First Class, but both are still privates,
and could both be referred to as privates (thought most would say PFC Smith for
the latter). They also have (from lowest rank to highest) Sargeant, Staff
Sargeant, Sargeant First Class, and Master Sargeant/First Sargeant, and
Sargeant Major. They are all NCO's, and It would be correct to call any of
them simply "Sargeant", with the exception of First Sargeant and Sargeant
Major, both of whom are always addressed by the full titles.
Other officer ranks that do this: First Lieutenant and Second Lieutenant--both
are Lieutenants, and are usually just referred to as "Lt. Smith". You also
have all the General ranks--Lieutanant General, Major General, Brigadier
General, and they are all Generals.
Only 'unique' rank for officers--Major.
Only 'unique' rank for enlisted--Corporal/Specialist.
Shannon
George Eldredge
saint...@aol.com says...
> Only 'unique' rank for officers--Major.
>
don't forget those pesky Captains...
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JWooten
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> In article <20031211001403...@mb-m10.aol.com>,
> saint...@aol.com says...
>> Only 'unique' rank for officers--Major.
>>
>
> don't forget those pesky Captains...
you both forgot corporal-captains.
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Chadd VanZanten
> So by this definition... Is it to be said the Henry Blake wasn't an
> actual Colonel?
I'm sure a lot of people said that, heh heh. But yeah, as has been
said better by others, Blake is a real colonel of the lieutenant
persuasion (as signified by gold oak clusters). Potter is a full
colonel (as signified by a silver eagle). When driving home a point or
being emphatic, Potter (and real-life colonels) will often allude to
his full-colonel-ness by referring to his bird. "If you'll watch the
birdie..." "My bird is more powerful than your bird..."
Okay then,
Chadd
Doug Krause
Chadd VanZanten <ch...@iodynamics.com> wrote:
>being emphatic, Potter (and real-life colonels) will often allude to
>his full-colonel-ness by referring to his bird. "If you'll watch the
>birdie..." "My bird is more powerful than your bird..."
I think Potter also referred to himself as a "full bird colonel".
George Eldredge
ch...@iodynamics.com says...
> Blake is a real colonel of the lieutenant
> persuasion (as signified by gold oak clusters).
>
actually, gold oak clusters are for majors - silver clusters are for
lieutenant colonels. (or for you navy folks, gold for lietenant
commander, silver for commander)
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::slaps forehead:: Oh Good Lord--I should never try to post when half-asleep.
Shannon
sli...@slidge.com
Private, Second Class
Private, First Class
Corporal
Specialist
Corporal
Sergeant
Staff Sergeant
Sergeant, First Class
Master Sergeant
First Sergeant
Sergeant Major
Command Sergeant Major
Seargent Major of the Army
Chief Warrant Officer 1
Chief Warrant Officer 2
Chief Warrant Officer 3
Chief Warrant Officer 4
Chief Warrant Officer 5
Second Lieutenant
First Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
General of the Army
LTterp
....which puts me in mind of a favorite Henry line, "....and I've got dimples
on my butt!" LOL
Linda T.
Chadd VanZanten
> ch...@iodynamics.com says...
> > Blake is a real colonel of the lieutenant
> > persuasion (as signified by gold oak clusters).
> actually, gold oak clusters are for majors - silver clusters are for
> lieutenant colonels. (or for you navy folks, gold for lietenant
> commander, silver for commander)
Wooops. Yeah, mixed up my metals there. I hope you alloy me that one mistake...
Okay then,
Chadd
Gumbo ...
If Potter was a "full" Colonel then why would he be sent to a Mash
unit? I know he was regular Army but wouldn't he have more of a say
so into going to a Mash unit or staying where he wanted?
I figure they might have sent him cause he was a Doctor but goes with
my question of being a "full" Colonel then he should have some pull...
George Eldredge
coppers out to you.
(horrible joke to answer bad joke)
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SaintMaryM
>unit? I know he was regular Army but wouldn't he have more of a say
>so into going to a Mash unit or staying where he wanted?
>
Not really. You goes where the Army says you goes.
>I figure they might have sent him cause he was a Doctor but goes with
>my question of being a "full" Colonel then he should have some pull...
>
>
Potter's 'pull' really depends more on who his friends are--officer ranks are
more politicking. And even then, your friends can only help you so much.
Potter filled a void--the MASH united needed both a company commander and a
doctor, Potter filled two slots in one.
Shannon
Gumbo ...
>>Potter's 'pull' really depends more on who his friends are--officer ranks are
>>more politicking. And even then, your friends can only help you so much.
>>Potter filled a void--the MASH united needed both a company commander and a
>>doctor, Potter filled two slots in one.
>>
>>Shannon
Didn't think of it like that... Good point!
Brad Filippone
: According to goarmy.com, the ranks are:
isn't this list missing the President? :)
The Other Brad
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Depends on the President.
But then, the current incumbent has a proven history of going AWOL in
matters military.
DFooK
Mike Demenchuk
Andy K.
right after reading the "colorful" reports on BJ and Hawkeye, so he may
simply have wanted a smooth and headache-free command during his
time there.
Besides, based on all the old war stories he has told in various later
episodes, he's had more than enough "combat time" in WW1 and WW2.
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